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Instant Message (Chat) Software options

I have seen many messages go by discussing what is the best software for instant messaging. Up until recently, I had been using Agile Messenger. It was quite unstable when I first started using it a couple of years ago, but it is much better now. There is a cost now, which I think is high, but I would be willing to pay. Before buying into Agile though, I felt I should review my other options, and I have run into problems with each. Can anyone either help me get past these problems, or perhaps suggest another solution? Here are the programs I have tried and the problems I have experienced.
Agile Messenger - I have become very happy with the software, but I am not fond of subscriptions. I would much prefer to be able to buy the software outright. I may be able to get over that, but I discovered something else. I like to try the different ROM's that show up on this board and I have noticed that my customer ID in Agile changes with the different ROM's. Does this mean I need to buy a new license each time I change my ROM? I have written email to Agile about this and a couple of other questions and I have never heard back. I am concerned about the lack of support. There are also security questions that have been presented elsewhere on this board about having a middleman handle your connection to the various chat services since the middleman needs to know the username and password to connect.
IM+ - I tried this program, and I like the fact that I can purchase it and be done. I also like that it seems to connect directly to the chat services, thus getting rid of the middleman problem mentioned above. I have been experiencing a problem though where I appear to be online, both from my side, and from the side of my buddies, but messages do not go through. I have also experienced situations where I have successfully sent messages to friends, they replied, but I did not receive the replies. I find this type of unreliability to be intolerable, especially since you can not tell if it is happening. As far as you know, you are sending messages but your friends are not responding when they very well might be. I have tried reinstalling after a hard reset with the same problem.
IMOV - From what I can tell, this is just a XMPP (Jabber, Google..) client. It relies on relays on the Internet to access any other chat system such as AOL, or Yahoo. This introduces the problem with the middleman above, but further, these relays are practically anonymous. At least with Agile, I have some idea (though not a perfect one) who I am entrusting my credentials to. I do not have that with the relays used by XMPP. I guess I could research the available relays and find one I trust, but I am not looking to do that right now.
Verichat - I have not tried this in a while. It is another subscription based system and is a middleman. I guess my thought is that if I am going to pay an ongoing fee AND have a middleman, I would rather have Agile.
Okay, this has gotten to be a long post, but I think it presents my current position. I communicate with users of AOL, Yahoo, Google, and MSN. I can not get all of them to see reason and just all change to IRC or XMPP :-D
I am running this on a Universal (i-Mate Jasjar) with Windows Mobile 5. I am posting in general because I am sure this is a topic that affects many of the XDA phones.
Thanks for any input you can provide.

As far as IRC is concerned, don't forget to check out my IRC-related roundups - I've cross-posted some of the latest ones here in the General forum too.

I have just discovered those. I have given thought to using IRC, but I do not know if I need yet another transport to become dependant on. If I had it all to do over again, I would select IRC and / or XMPP for how open they are and ignore anyone who refused to do the same. (In a perfect world.. )

Octro: Gtalk
There is also Octro which is a Google Chat program that can do chat and VOIP even over a 1x connection (uses the jabber connection).
http://www.octro.com/
It's only for Google right now but the developers have noted that they will add AIM, Y!, MSN, etc later on (it's still in beta).
The VOIP part is really neat. It's not perfect but it is much less resource intensive than Skype and feels more "phone like" when you get an incoming call.
We have an ongoing thread where here at ppcgeeks.com where the developer pops in (they're very good at fixing bugs, adding features, etc.)
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/octro-new-im-client-w-voip-support-1-05-on-1-3-07-t1459.html#12485
The software is free right now but there will be a cost later. For me, this software has the most potential out of all the other programs if only b/c it's being developed now and you the user can help make it better...

Octro looks good..
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?

Octro adds AIM, ICQ and MSN
mrdata1701b said:
I look forward to seeing Octro when the other IM systems are added. I wonder what kind of cost will be attached. Anyone have suggestions to solve the problems I was having with IM+? Has anyone else tried to contact Agile? Any luck?
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Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.

yea im also looking into some other options since i upgraded my rom. they discontinued verichat so unless you have your old license (if you bought it) its not going to work. im using octro now and it seems to be working fine. i tried installing agile but theyre files are all messed up. any more suggestions?

Not Quite sure how aim is incorporated.
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.

thedubya914 said:
How exactly does one go about using their aim acount with octro? I just downloaded the pocket pc version from the site and just got a google talk account but still haven't figured out how to contact people using aim. Is this possible? Any help would be appreciated.
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Menu/Option/Accounts/Legacy Accounts
GoogleTalk must be online
or RTFM
Welcome to this forum

There is a new one that does them all (AIM, MSN, GTalk, Yahoo, ICQ, and Jabber) that is currently free and Java based. I quit using IM+ (which I paid for) and am using it exclusively. Currently the beta testing is closed while I think they upgrade their servers, but should open up again shortly I think).
It is supposed to be for the crackberries, but works great on my Dash and K-Jam:
http://www.bbhub.com/2007/01/25/jivetalk-im-beta-available-to-try/
http://blackberryforums.pinstack.com/17577-jivetalk_beta_multi_client_im_application.html
-Mc

malatesta said:
Good news, AIM, ICQ and MSN were just added! (still experimental but it works for me)
Version 1.06 came out today. As far as price...dunno. It's free though till the end of Feb.
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Thanks for this. Haven't heard of them yet. Ima give it a try now. If it's works great and isn't subsciption based like Agile, I'm down...

anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA

alfredtv said:
anyone get this running on WM6 specifically the T-Mobile MDA
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You mean Octro? It's working great under WM6 - have been testing it.
I'll publish a big roundup of all these apps in the next 1-2 days - stay tuned

hey anyone know of one that will use http proxy?

See http://forum.xda-developers.com:80/showthread.php?t=294938 for a preview of the article (sorry, it has a typo: Ocrp vs Octro. I'll fix this in the final version.)

I've been using Octro 1.09 on my 8525 on t-mobile. I prefer it to Agile. The voice function works but not very well. Excessive delay and feedback requires use of a headset. I can tether to my laptop and use GTalk and the voice is flawless. I'm hoping they work on the voice feature more. Other than issues with voice Octro is excellent.

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RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07

cyberstraz said:
RE: OCTRO
The site says it expires on 2/28/07
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Then, surely a new version comes really soon.

so nothing that works via http (8080) proxy?

Ventrilo on PPC

Hi Guys
After trawling countless forums and google searches i have finally found a Ventrilo client for PPC and smartphones.
The programs is called CEntrilo http://www.g3gg0.de/wordpress/projects/centrilo
Now I installed this and was like "Hell YEAH!", it connected perfectly and I was able to use all the features that I love in normal ventrilo.
Then I hit a snag....when i unhooked from ActiveSync i lost connection and no matter what i did i could not get connected through WiFi or GPRS..Dammit! All i kept getting was the error "host name not found"
Once again I trawled google to find a solution. BINGO! I found that if you redirect a host to the IP (such as signing upto no-ip.org and creating a host) and then used that as the IP it works.
So anyways I hope this is usefull to all u hardcore gamers and Voip ppl
Peace Out
Dodge

pld sir
thanx dude almost gave up on this one... cheers

no problemo
I hear u have asked the guy for the source code? are u a programmer?

nah...
nah.just like to see how stuff works and maybe tinker a bit.

What if there is already a Server established and you can't access it? Or do you still go to the No-IP.org site?? Cuz the site makes it sound like your signing up for a server or something along those lines.... sorry I'm not really understanding how it all works.

Hey, since I can't access his website ( http://www.g3gg0.de/wordpress/projects/centrilo ) I would like to ask you guys for a favoure ... Would anyone could be so nice and post program binaries here? Ofcourse any help would be appreciated .

yeah i'd also like to obtain the binaries.

packetloss said:
yeah i'd also like to obtain the binaries.
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Count me in also!

Just to inform you guys ... http://www.g3gg0.de/wordpress/projects/centrilo is now accessible!

centrilo dosnt work with new vent servers
all new vent servers do not support centrilo (as far a i can tell, would love to be wrong)
but..
if some one wans o work on i i have an old vent-server app.

Could you please tell me what version of ventrilo server do I need to connect on with centrilo. Thanks!

my centrilo was working fine up 2 Version 2.3.0 get hat and you'll be fine. 3.0 stops centrilo working. not had time to work out why but there you go
i might upload server file on the weekend.o0(thats if i can find it in all the junk iv downloaded )

That's weird ... I can't connect to server version 2.1.4. You probably don't know if there is any bug.

I miss this program so much it hurts. There must be alternative. Perhaps some handy programmer would like to take a crack at this?

Yeah, updated the server to 3.0.2 and Centrilo is hosed.

Geggo is considering upgrading his software to work with the new version of ventrilo. Visit his site here and post a message letting him know how much you appreciate his work and how much you would like to see an update.

eldersoul said:
Geggo is considering upgrading his software to work with the new version of ventrilo. Visit his site here and post a message letting him know how much you appreciate his work and how much you would like to see an update.
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The developer refuses to update his client to work with the 3.0 Vent servers. The new vent clients talk to the official servers and the CEtrilo developer hates the "we want to control everything" mindset.
So we are out of luck. Is there anyone else out there tackling this project?

Ok, I just found you guys while searching for a Vent program for my Blackberry Curve. Sorry if this is a dead topic and sorry in advance because I know nothing about this stuff.
I was looking at the Centrilo program but it didn't seem that the site was too user friendly so I was hoping someone here could help me out. Does Centrilo still work at all? And how do I install it, do I need to do it from my laptop or can I just install straight to the BB?
Thanks for any help you can give me. As you can see I'm very new to this but I'm desperate.

Looks like he may of released the code for CEntrillo.
http://www.g3gg0.de/wordpress/archives/30
Anyone wanna take a shot at updating this for Vent 3.0 servers, and Windows Mobile 6.1?

Yes someone please update this

Live mesh mobile client available

If you have been using the live mesh technical preview, the mobile client for wm6 is now available. Just sign in as normal and then add device.

I'm still seeing "Coming soon for mobile" The limited Mac tech preview shows up, though.

Bushrod said:
I'm still seeing "Coming soon for mobile" The limited Mac tech preview shows up, though.
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I signed in and out of live mesh and it appeared.

Must not have replicated to the servers I hit yet. I'll keep an eye out. Thanks for the heads-up!

I really like live mesh, (for me at least), it just works out of the box.

Hi !
Is there someone that can post the cab ?
Thanks !
Whatever !
I found it :
http://m.mesh.com/install/wm6/LiveMesh.cab
But it doesn't connect to the mesh : "only available to a limited number of users"

Arrgh this is annoying, Ive been using Mesh for a while and now its comming up with for U.S only wtf?

DMAND said:
Arrgh this is annoying, Ive been using Mesh for a while and now its comming up with for U.S only wtf?
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It says US and UK on the Live Mesh blog. I am however having trouble at the point where it's trying to add the device, possibly because I'm on GPRS at the moment and it might be timing out, I guess.

SQL CE error
When I try to install I get this error message....
"Live Mesh was unable to find a suitable version of SQL CE on this device. Unable to install Live Mesh."
I've tried to install SQL, i downloaded it from microsoft directly, and its listed as "SQLServerCompact 3.5 Core" under Remove Programs....
Any ideas??? I really want to use this....

Yes, it's only for US and UK
I installed the mesh cab, and using an "US" account (a french one, but with my country changed to US ) it WORKS ! And works well. I have now a "cabstore" synced with my own server, live mesh and my TyTN II.
Great service !

Got it last night, works great with my XV6800.

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When I try to install I get this error message....
"Live Mesh was unable to find a suitable version of SQL CE on this device. Unable to install Live Mesh."
I've tried to install SQL, i downloaded it from microsoft directly, and its listed as "SQLServerCompact 3.5 Core" under Remove Programs....
Any ideas??? I really want to use this....
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I've got this exact same problem. I posted over on the Microsoft Mesh forum and am waiting for a conclusive answer. It's been passed over to the Mobile Dev team apparently.
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en/LiveMesh/thread/8e80d590-9c88-4522-bdab-3d23bea718c0
I wonder if it's got anything to do with cooked roms? I'm running CRC WM 6.1 v13.0 on my Hermes.
--Update--
Apparently there is an issue with cooked ROMs as they don't all include SQL. Installing SQL seperately will not help unless you use a version lower the 3.5 but even that has not been proven yet.
I'm going to try and find an older version of SQL and give it a bash.
Further information here:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/LiveMeshMobile/thread/b8a6da09-c53a-4168-91bf-f476d2a1876f

Firstly I am in the UK Ive downloaded the updated cab and now everytime I run it it gets past verifying user and then gets stuck on Getting mobile phone identifier and then fails

SQL CE Issue has been identified and resolved
The client needs SQL CE 3.1 installed, and does not work with SQL CE 3.5 installed.
Read and follow information in forum:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/LiveMeshMobile/thread/b8a6da09-c53a-4168-91bf-f476d2a1876f/

All working well after applying Jef K's fix over on the Mesh Forum.
Problem now is that the MEsh Client can't acquire my device ID to register the phone onto my mesh.
Issue being delt with over at http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/LiveMeshMobile/thread/c7ce844c-a4e3-4be4-838d-1ebdca5986e7

I downloaded the cab but says that I cannot do it because only a limited number of users can right now. How sad...
Does remote desktop work like the desktop version?

courtlandre said:
Does remote desktop work like the desktop version?
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No
You cannot remote desktop to the phone (shame)

Limited Users
Limited Users, anyone else got the same problem?
cheeers Tom

I use mesh for a back up right now and it works great for my home computers. Some things that bugged me are:
No remote desktop.
It will only sync your remote directories to the main memory. I tried to sync my work folder and it didn't place it in the storage card.
It launches external applications to view the mesh folders (Pocket IE) and the file explorer to view local folders.
All in all, a nice first attempt. Build in remote desktop and I would PAY for a service like this!

@Networkguy: it's still the first beta... keep waiting
Unfortunately i can't find a today plugin. This is sad. Anyone has an idea?

Planet3 (UK) on Touch Pro ?

Hi!
Has anyone got the Planet3 (Skype, MSN and TV) working on this phone.
I tried the User agent hack and the browser.dll (posted by Sub69), but in one case it says my phone is not supported and the other will redirect me to the www.three.co.uk main site (browser.dll one)
I would really like to get it working as Three has the best internet for mobiles in UK (at least what I could find).
Please help me!
Anhtuan
EDIT - After soft reseting few time (one didnt do it), it seems to work with a url - mobile.three.co.uk/hb/singleurl. Have the N95 browser.dll active also. So let the testing begin

anhtuan445 said:
EDIT - After soft reseting few time (one didnt do it), it seems to work with a url - mobile.three.co.uk/hb/singleurl. Have the N95 browser.dll active also. So let the testing begin
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The TytnII is supported and sold by 3UK. To make your phone appear like a TytnII, amend the broswers useragent string to
HTC_TyTN_II Mozilla/4.0
Then going to mobile.three.co.uk will give you the HTC version of Planet3, which you have already found. No need to make your phone pretend to be a Nokia when it can appear like a Kaiser

Hi, i am an aussie 3mobile user here and would like to use the skype on planet three as well. Can you guys let me know if it works and also just a brief guide how do i make the changes so that i could download the skype app from 3planet into my TP. Thanks!

leejiahui said:
Hi, i am an aussie 3mobile user here and would like to use the skype on planet three as well. Can you guys let me know if it works and also just a brief guide how do i make the changes so that i could download the skype app from 3planet into my TP. Thanks!
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Three don't have a Skype client for Windows Mobile, you need to install the iskoot client and make some registry changes so it points at the 3 Skype servers.
I got my Hermes working with the free Skype service on 3 by following post #46 on this page
http://tinyurl.com/6gaf4a
This is for UK users so you'll have to google to get the correct settings for your country, but the basic principle will be the same.

Best Open Market Application for HTC HD2

I have just discovered Open Market and it is quite frankly a bit more reach in free apps.
Look for OpnMarket
I would like people to use this thread to share the best apps for HTC HD2.
Come on have your say.
Mine so far is WIFI Remote Access v1.00
Enables to browse the content of your Windows Phone 6.5 or Windows Mobile 6.0, 6.1 device from your computer's web browser using a WIFI connection without installing anything on your computer!

Hi Ive tried the open market and its ok , too bad that there aint more like open market where you can get more apps .
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oshikawa said:
I have just discovered Open Market and it is quite frankly a bit more reach in free apps.
Look for OpnMarket
I would like people to use this thread to share the best apps for HTC HD2.
Come on have your say.
Mine so far is WIFI Remote Access v1.00
Enables to browse the content of your Windows Phone 6.5 or Windows Mobile 6.0, 6.1 device from your computer's web browser using a WIFI connection without installing anything on your computer!
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People would benefit from searching xda developers a bit more thouroughly (or in some cases, at all!) before looking elsewhere for applications. This community has much more to offer than any other single location on the internet (including Wifi Remote Access v1.7)

johncmolyneux said:
People would benefit from searching xda developers a bit more thouroughly (or in some cases, at all!) before looking elsewhere for applications. This community has much more to offer than any other single location on the internet (including Wifi Remote Access v1.7)
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totally agree with you. whatever i'm looking for i usually end up finding it here anyway.

I'm still anxiously waiting for XDA-Marketplace.....! Already there isa version for Android, I'm wondering how long it will take for a WM version, since originally xda-developers was intended for windows mobile... That's the one I want to have!

Can't seem to get Omarket to function properly on my HD2. It requires a login or registration and attempt to register, but it says my information is incorrect...LOL
At first it would say my email was incorrect, and I tried 3 email address, then it says there's an error in the fields.

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Can't seem to get Omarket to function properly on my HD2. It requires a login or registration and attempt to register, but it says my information is incorrect...LOL
At first it would say my email was incorrect, and I tried 3 email address, then it says there's an error in the fields.
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Just go to www.freewarepocketpc.net and register there. it worked for me

first I look at openmarket and after here bc I way easier then here to search the forums. OpenMarket is a must have.
PS: a shame that they try to make another one and dont work together. One place with all stuff, that must be the target