Just brought jasjar - General Topics

Hi all just purchased jasjar. and have a funny problem.I use pocket player with file caching and visulisations on full.the spectrum analyser works ok on mains power but sluggish on battery power.
does the jasjars cpu scale down power on battery power?
Also the total memory is supposed to be 128MB rom and 64MB ram.
All see is total storage 43.72 and program 47.93 this seems to me to be less memory than my PDA2K which is storage 62.88 and program 62.89 and spectrum display is not sluggish on my 2K on battery or mains power
Whats going on??

The program memory isn't an issue for you, it's purely for running apps, wheras on devices running WM2003se or older, the RAM is split dynamically between storage and running.
I *think* the JasJar has 128MB Flash ROM which is split into 32MB for the OS, and 16MB for the Extended ROM, leaving you with 80mb pure storage.
The XDA 2, 2i, and 2s for instance have 128mb RAM only, and while this is split 50/50 by the OS, you can adjust the slider manually, and install more than 64mb worth of stuff, although the less run space you leave, the more work the device will have to do if you run multiple apps, and the more slow down you get.
As for the speed, yes, on mains it will not scale the CPU, on battery it will, and you should have a speed option in the power settings for normal or turbo, or words to that effect. All PPC's with the 520 and above CPU's have had this so far, so seems unlikely this device would not.

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Battery and processor

Hi,
i would like to know if it's normal that my battery goes to 100 % at the beginning of the day to 68% at the end. (i'm not using it mutch !!)
besides when i switch on my htc my processor is using 38% et then after using a prog it goes to 41% and stay at 41% after ending all progs i used.
if there is a prog who can optimize using processor it will be great (i know i'm asking a lote).
(by the way thank's a lot for the forum !!)
A power drain like that is unusual. I get to about 80% by 6pm just from making a couple of short calls and checking the forums on my lunch using 3g which I think is acceptable.
Generally your battery will run down faster if you have programs running in the back ground or you have other radios on (bluetooth, wifi, gps) etc.
Wifi will run your battery right down if left on.
Also turn down your brightness on the screen as that is a battery drain when its on and also adjust your power settings to turn off the scree faster when you are not using it. Most of these can be found in your start > Settings.
A friend of mine gave me a tip that when you flash your phone to a new radio you should do it with 100% battery as it helps improve the battery life. Not sure whether thats true or not but it seemed to work for me, of course it could have just been a better radio!
Hope that helps.
jediL said:
besides when i switch on my htc my processor is using 38% et then after using a prog it goes to 41% and stay at 41% after ending all progs i used.
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Is it processor usage or used memory? Processor is the thing that does different calculations and needs more energy when being used more intensively (at least that's what I think). Memory is just a container of information ("0's and 1's") and energy is needed for maintenance of all 100% of memory, so imho it shouldn't change much if 38% are used or 41% (and again - that's just what I think about memory usage; I have no scientific proof for that ).
Btw, question from me - does strength and/or type of signal/network (with "type" I mean all those GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA networks) affect power usage in any way?
i hanged where i worked a few weeks ago and now I find I get 5 days from my battery, I only got 3 1/2 before. I have noticed that with my old job I never had better then 2 bars of service. this must prove that signal strength has something to do with battery life
Ofcourse. when you have better reception ur phone has to use less powerto send his signal and thus uses less energie
is it possible if u use a memory card, that the phone use the RAM not a memory (for files) but as a real RAM (like on pc) ?
Is there any lighter theme than the original one which can make the processor running slower ?
if you want the best battery life turn off htc home so you just have a blank home screen!!!
hold on I have a great idea, I will sit down this weekend and make a text only interface for my cruise. that would give some awesome battey life. I suppose I might as well buy an old nokia 2010 and save my time LOL.
Battery life depends on some many things its hard to get the phone to last the same lenght of time each day for me let alone everybody.
ook ....., thx for your help.
Do you have Slide 2 Unlock version 1.21 installed? That drains battery very fast. It has a bad "iLock2.exe". It's better to download the latest version of S2U2.
Btw, what about different "minimized" applications? With "minimized" I mean those that are left opened in background for using them later (e.g., paused music player, opened pdf, opened contacts/tasks/scheduler etc). On PC, such applications should not consume any resources (expect RAM, of course ;D) as there's no persistant interaction between application and user/data, so it would consume more power to open/close application and read/write data. What about such apps on windows mobile devices? Is it better to close/open applications so that they run only when they are being used? Or is it better to leave them in background while they aren't used? This question is about apps that are used on regular basis, i.e., like 20+ times a day...
Music players tend to keep the device powered up while the player is loaded and playing. You may have noticed the device keeps playing the music while the device seems off in many of the players. In fact, only the screen is off in this case.
There is a chance your music player keeps the device on when paused as well, wasting a lot of energy for nothing.
Hi,
I had the same problem, the culprit was btio.
btio was working fine on my qtek 9100, but on my cruise, this software empty the battery in about 24h
Regards
Pat

CPU usage is at 47%

I'm not sure if this is normal, so I thought I would ask some of the pros here at xda. When I soft reset my Fuze it generally starts out at about 37%. active sync kicks on, which by the way I've been trying to find how to keep this from coming on automatically, but no luck. This puts it at about 40%. Once I use something like sky fire, and I'm at 53%. This wouldn't bother me ,but it's at 50% after I've closed the program, and it stays there, draining my battery. is this normal? any suggestions, if it's not?
Oh ya, I forgot to mention.
Running NATF's v2.3 ROM
Stock Radio
don't know if this matter but, Fuzeberry v3.0 w/ L.S. carbon dialer skin, and Icontact contacts.
Yes when I had Touchflo enabled my memory usage was exactly as yours.
You can prevent activesync from opening up at startup by going to Settings>Personal>Phone>Timezone>uncheck Automatic change timezone and clock
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Yes when I had Touchflo enabled my memory usage was exactly as yours.
You can prevent activesync from opening up at startup by going to Settings>Personal>Phone>Timezone>uncheck Automatic change timezone and clock
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nah that fix doesnt work
trust me ive tried about 6 different things nothing stops it
*posted message in the wrong board >.<
I looked right at my fuze when i read your post. I'm at 47% with mail and Windows Live messenger open. I wouldnt be that worried about your memory usage.
Im usually Hovering at 45% to 50% with nothing running and with TouchFlo Enabled... I figure this is normal but i wish i could lower it
cool. I just wasn't sure if that was normal or not. figured I'd get some user's feedback. thanks all. As far as the active sync I guess I'll give that a shot. but i guess it only uses like 1% of the CPU any way so whatever.
I believe you are referring to Memory Usage and not CPU usage. If you CPU is constantly at 47% then you should be concerned. If its just your memory I wouldn't worry too much. When I soft reset Im at 30% usage with TF3D and that creeps up to 40%. I can usually keep it at about 40% using MemMaid and Task Managers.
Keep in mind every menu you open cache's the icons and wastes memory. So if you go into the settings menu and then open you programs folder along with subfolders. Everytime you do this the icons have to load into memory and will stay there. Also some programs don't close completely and stay running as a process. I would recommend getting a task manager that can kill processes. FDCSoft Task Manager is free and works perfect.
yeah after a reset with tf3d im usually at 36 or so
after running stuff then using memaid to clean im back at 40
i have a 32 mb pagepool, and with no tf3d im at 36% 118/184 then with tf3d im at 40-43% depending on apps, and i never go above 48% when im playing a game with tf3d on
So TouchFlo takes up decent space but not crazy space
considering the amount of ram the raphael has the amount of ram TF3D takes up is very insignificant. As for CPU usage.....once its already fully loaded into ram it shouldn't use very much if any cpu at all.

Experiment for power consumption

I've always been annoyed by the increasing in size of the main WM processes like Gwes.exe or Device.exe.
I know the only solution for this is a soft-reset, but my doubt was that the power needed to restart the device,
was more than the power used by the device, also with "increased sizes" of the main processes.
So i've tried this experiment;
Firts try: intensive usage of the device with no soft-reset.Calls, sms, wi-fi ...
...well, Device.exe tripled in size and also gwes.exe was near 14 mb!!the battery lasted less than 16 hours.
Second try:intensive usage of the device, soft-resetted every time the main processes increased their size (a soft reset every 500kb of increase).
Result: less than 13 hours of battery life!!
I know that this experiment can not be so similar to a normal daily usage,
but the results makes me wonder if the soft-reset is really useful for reducing the RAM eating...
What do you thint about that?

Overclocking an Elfin

I found this tool:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=1640
It sounds perfect for my overclocking needs, but sadly it is only for the Tornado. Is there something similar available for an Elfin, which has the ability to control CPU speed automatically (according to usage, ie, low when the screen dims, lower when in standby etc OR just like in the above mentioned software, according to cpu usage).
Any recommendations?
Thanks.

[Q] RAM Questions

So I read how the Droid Charge had 512 MB of RAM. However, my phone only sees 349 MB of it. On top of that, ~260 MB of it is used all the time, with no way to clear it. I have also been getting quite a few Low Memory Warnings and random reboots.
So my question is, is there any way I can get back the ~200MB that the phone doesn't see? Or if not, clear up the ~260MB thats being constantly used?
You can't get back more than the 350 available. It is used by low level drivers and processes. You can make the low memory crap stop though. Download auto memory manager from the market and set it to aggressive. You wont ever get that warning again because your phone will more appropriately kill background processes. Eventually once you do some reading on the android memory system you can set your auto memory settings Individually for how you use your phone. But the aggressive setting should take care of your problem in the mean time.
This is assuming you are rooted. Also look up the v6 supercharger script and follow the instructions to have your launcher operate better. HARDTOKILL launched is what you should use, not bulletproof, and you will know what I mean after you read the thread about it.

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