Alpine Phone recording - General Topics

The XDA IIi has recording capability. The XDA IIi obviously has phone integration. Is it possible to run a real-time recording of a phone conversation in progress?

dont notes let you do just that ?
in my xda2 there is even an icon for it
in the phone application

That will only record the my own voice because it gets into the microphone of Xda2i. The voice of the OTHER party in the phone conversation is ALSO recorded but in extreme low volume. It is too low that it cannot be heard anyway.
So, is there any built-in function to fully record BOTH PARTIES' voices in a phone conversation? If not, any 3rd party software can do that please?

You may also want to read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1 on this subject - it gives a nice overview of what you can expect from PPC PE devices and what applications there're to (even automatically) record phone calls.

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Call Recorder for Windows Mobile ???

Hi supporters, has anyone got Call Recorder or some similar application for Windows mobile, Or is it virtually impossible, b'cuz of the hardware incompatibility ?
There must have been discussion on this before as well, i am sure..
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has anyone got Call Recorder or some similar application for Windows mobile, Or is it virtually impossible, b'cuz of the hardware incompatibility ?
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Resco AudioRecorder and Vito Audio Notes will do what you want to do, if your device supports the feature.
On my HTC Wizard the only way to record both sides of the conversation is to turn the speaker-phone on.
The Vito programmers have included a function in Audio Notes that turns on the speaker-phone automatically when you answer a call. I would assume that they did this because they found no other way around the problem on some devices.
Hope this helps.
rohitsharman said:
Hi supporters, has anyone got Call Recorder or some similar application for Windows mobile, Or is it virtually impossible, b'cuz of the hardware incompatibility ?
There must have been discussion on this before as well, i am sure..
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OMG use search ffs theres a thread as long as your arm (perhaps even longer) where the slickest programmers in the know from XDA dev try everything (and i mean everything) to get this to work then outline the reasons why it wont.
This Helped, Man
SUMM0NER said:
Resco AudioRecorder and Vito Audio Notes will do what you want to do, if your device supports the feature.
On my HTC Wizard the only way to record both sides of the conversation is to turn the speaker-phone on.
The Vito programmers have included a function in Audio Notes that turns on the speaker-phone automatically when you answer a call. I would assume that they did this because they found no other way around the problem on some devices.
Hope this helps.
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THIS HELPED, MAN
hey buddy, thank u so much for lettin' me know about Vito Audio Notes, it works perfectly fine with my phone, though it needs the speakerphone to be on, while recording. But Something is always better than Nothing. I can compromise on that. And unlike Nokia, there are no more continuous annoyin' beeps at the background, while recording. Thanks again, mate.
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try the livePVR
rtakeo said:
try the livePVR
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Where can i find it ?
Phone call recording will not work on Palm treo 700w and 750v
Phone call PVR
Phone call PVR is the personal voice recorder mobile application that provides real time phone call recording using Automatic or Manual capture modes. It allows you to record your mobile phone conversations, either by recording all phone calls automatically, or by recording the next call you make.
Note:- Due to hardware limitation, when using LivePVR for phone call recording, the call must be made in speaker mode on some Windows Mobile Pocket PC devices for LivePVR to record the voice at theother end. Otherwise, the voice of the party at the other end may not be clear in the recorded file. Please check the trial version before making a purchase if this is not acceptable to you.
Phone call recording will not work on Palm treo 700w and 750v
http://www.softtrends.com/products/livepvr/livepvrwmppc.htm
mVoice disappoints too
I was hoping that mVoice will provide a solution but it disappointed me.
http://www.motionapps.com/product/mvoice/index.jsp
Here is an extract from mVoice manual:
"For Treo devices direct phone call recording is not available because of the hardware limitations of Treo devices. However phone calls can be recorded on Treo 750/700w having the following in mind:
− If you are using a headset you will be able to record only your voice - sound from the other side of a call cannot reach mVoice since Treo directs it to the ear speaker.
− If you are not using a headset, sound from both participants of the phone call will be recorded, but to make it usable you should turn on the "Speaker Phone" option after answering the call."
Record calls with Wizard without speaker phone
I can record calls getting both sides of the conversation without having to be in speaker phone mode. using my Wizard. Button 4, just hold it down and it will record as long as you hold the button down. I have that button (4) assigned to Record.
anothersmith said:
I can record calls getting both sides of the conversation without having to be in speaker phone mode. using my Wizard. Button 4, just hold it down and it will record as long as you hold the button down. I have that button (4) assigned to Record.
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Button? what button? Do you mean function + 4 on the keyboard? Or the touchscreen "4" button?
Thanks,
-TheGooch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493118 has been known to work on other devices and there is a thread with other devices in the Dev section.
Good luck
Not sure about the poll? 2 x non HTC devices
Install this cab file, and install any voice record software, it will record two-way conversation. This cab was created by Mskip, even though I found the reg file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493118
nick_martin said:
Install this cab file, and install any voice record software, it will record two-way conversation. This cab was created by Mskip, even though I found the reg file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493118
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Do you have a link for the voice recorder app (in .cab form) that comes with the phone.. the one that starts recording when you hold down Button 4. I installed a custom ROM that didn't come with this app.
Thanks,
-Adam
WM Sound Recorder
I use WM Sound Recorder to record my HTC Touch Pro phone conversation. It could record outgoing and incoming calls automatically. maybe you could have atry.
In short
Call recording and answering machine softwares are available , but needs speaker phone to be on.
This is hardware limitation with HTC but works with some other windows mobile devices like O2.
If works with HTC please let us all know.
Recording for mobile phone users
While this thread is old, a Google search for the topic finds it, so I'll comment. I've always found a voice recorder useful, for general non-phone, landline, and mobile phone use (particularly for recording otherwise undocumented customer (dis)services promises). A Nokia 9500 phone with Psiloc Extended Recorder software gave me most of what I wanted when out and about, but landline recording was problematical. Windows Mobile is more difficult.
But I've found a solution which is pretty much perfect for me. It sounds theoretically awful, like recording music with a microphone in front of the radio, but works extremely well, with both sides of the conversation recording at similar sound levels and without extraneous noise. After buying a "cheap" Chinese recorder which plugged into the landline connection, that ticked the right boxes and worked as specified, but didn't do the job well in practice, I got the right equipment: a tiny voice recorder (95x37x10mm, 47g) and a microphone that sits in your ear, underneath the phone speaker or a hands-free (but not in-ear) headset. Olympus does lots of suitable recorders; I found the WS-210S 2nd-hand & cheap. The unique bit is the Olympus telephone pickup TP-7. It will record with the pickup from any phone you use (eg payphone), and of course from its microphone. The lowest-quality audio (138 hours in 512k! - don't go overboard for massive memory) is 100% fine for understandable speech, voice-activated recording, and low microphone sensitivity for phone or close dictation, high for general conversation. Makes small (60kB/min) time-stamped WMA recordings with useless file names which I move and rename ASAP to a computer into which I have USB-plugged the recorder.
This is so much more versatile than mobile-only software, for about 37 GBP (but no need to buy new version when I change phone) and a small gadget and cable to carry, that I have happily given up the complications of software. I use the mobile phone (and other people's phones) without a headset, and the landline with a Plantronics over-ear headset.
HTH, pol08
PS problems with Chinese voice recorder: needed fiddly settings every time used, didn't start in right mode; voice-activated recording didn't work with compression, and uncompressed file was huge .WAV; compressed file format was non-standard .ACT - could play only with Windows software supplied, but no editing to trim silences; no timestamp.
Since there are recent comments on this thread....
Thus typing-in....ACR call recorded has worked for me without the speaker mode also..
It works smoothly...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536472

Call recording

Can U do call recording on touch pro? nearly all HTC phones cannot record calls, even with third party software. I remember that when I changed my ROM on my Jasjar from a phone dealer, Call Recording worked but speaker phone stopped. Are there any registry settings?
I'm curious to know this as well. None of my PPC phones were able to do this but my OLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDDD Nextel i930 phone was able to and it was based off of the old Windows Mobile CE platform, so I don't see why the Raphael can't handle the task...
Maybe because call recording is illegal in many countries...
Try this:
Resco Audio Recorder
It can record all Your calls automatically.
It can do. But it depends on the hardware whether or not it records both sides of the call. This was not the case with the tytn ii. And unfortunately I dont hold out hope for the raph.
Thats why I keep my old SE phone.
The "illegal" argument is pretty thin, its 100% legal if you inform the person you are talking with that you are recording.
This is a useful tool for some people, and its just silly that HTC refuse to implement this feature.
I use VITO Audionotes on my kaiser right now and the calll recording works pretty well, especially on speaker phone.
In Sweden the law says that if one of the callers is aware that the call is recorded, then it's legal. If none of the callers know, then it is illegal.
" if one of the callers is aware that the call is recorded, then it's legal. If none of the callers know, then it is illegal."
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sounds odd should that not be if both callers know it's legal
but if one dont it's illegal ?
if none of them know then who's doing the recording?
apart from the operators and secret service ?
I use VITO Audionotes on my kaiser right now and the calll recording works pretty well, especially on speaker phone.
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Really? How did you get it to work? Just tried it and I get no sound at all. Haven't tried speakerphone mode, I imagine that would work, but it is kind of useless.
Great news for you guys interested in recording calls (personally I'm not) There WILL definitely be a recording feature built into the Touch Pro stock ROM
Check out the "Privacy Restrictions" on the first page of the Quick Start Guide!
...but that means call recording is possible?
Sounds like it!
Try the successor to VITO AudioNotes on http://iwindowsmobile.com/mobile-audio-recorder.html Audio Notes Touch

[REQUEST] Call Recorder

Is there is no call recorder for Android 2.1?
In Total Recall there's the message that it doesn't work on 2.1 sadly.
Is there no way to get it work on our Nexus?
Especially on a rooted one I thought this might work.
Where does is depend on?
Hope someone can help
Do you have the Full version of that app?
Yes I have, but they write in the description that it doens't work on 2.1
And Ultimate Voice Recorder didn't work, too.
you're right Ultimate voice doesnt work....hhmmm
This recorder works and its free.
Get a hold of the developer, seems like he needs to work on his app more
Yes but this is a voice recorder and not a call recorder
Voice recording works, but no call recording that's the problem.
i'm looking for such an app too.
Looking for a call recorder too, no progress so far.
"Total Recall" Looks good, but that's not compatible with Android 2.1
Yea I'd like a call recorder too, and not a voice recorder.
For those that don't know,
Voice recorder = only records your voice
Call recorder = records BOTH sides of the conversation.
There is apparently a hardware issue that prevents true call stream access by apps on (at least) the first generation android phones. They added an api to choose the call stream as the recording source in 1.5 but it wouldn't work properly on the hardware we had available then. There are bug reports on google's page code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2117. I don't know if anyone has put serious effort into working with this api on the n1 or if it is even possible hardware wise, it probably wouldn't be a bad issue to bring up in the dev forum.
I had made this thread in dev forum but it was first closed and then moved here and reopended, because it hasn't to do anything with development they told me.
So we hope somebody reads here and maybe can help
I don't think they allow app requests per-se in the dev forum but a question about the function of those apis might garner some response. Maybe cyanogen or one of the other devs who works with the kernel source would have some idea if there are issues with the api not being fully implemented or driver support.
How bout Voice?
phone recorder works well, but there's no on/off toggle that I can see, so when you've installed it records every call.
That´s really too bad, I miss a call recorder ..had that on my last device and this saved me some troubles
Use Google Voice. Record while in your calls with just the push of a button. Simple and easy.
vRecorder has worked fine for me
Lancealot said:
Use Google Voice. Record while in your calls with just the push of a button. Simple and easy.
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I just set it up...how/where is the feature?
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Calls: Recording phone calls
To record your call, simply press 4. You can do it when you first accept a call, or any time after it's started. To stop the recording, press 4 again or hang up.
Your recordings are saved online and you can access them just like you do with voicemail.
Note: at this time you can only record calls you receive on your Google Voice number. You can't record calls you initiate using our Click2Call from our website or the Return Call feature from your voicemail.
There are different laws that apply to call recording, so check your current state and Federal laws before using this feature. To assist in the compliance of these laws, we provide an automated verbal announcement when call recording has been initiated and when it has been stopped.
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I just set it up...how/where is the feature?
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There are different laws that apply to call recording, so check your current state and Federal laws before using this feature. To assist in the compliance of these laws, we provide an automated verbal announcement when call recording has been initiated and when it has been stopped.
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Recording a call with out notifying the other party is HIGHLY illegal FYI. I believe when you record with Google Voice it notifies both parties that the call is being recorded. Just a heads up! >;]
That being said, I always wanted a telemarketer to say "this call will be recorded for quality and assurance purposes" to which I reply: "yes, and I too shall record this call for humorous potential YouTube purposes, is that ok?"
hahaha
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Recording a call with out notifying the other party is HIGHLY illegal FYI. I believe when you record with Google Voice it notifies both parties that the call is being recorded. Just a heads up! >;]
That being said, I always wanted a telemarketer to say "this call will be recorded for quality and assurance purposes" to which I reply: "yes, and I too shall record this call for humorous potential YouTube purposes, is that ok?"
hahaha
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Illegal??? yeah whatever, sue me lol
As for telemarketers.........since i have place my number on the call-registry, i don't get them
Although, i might start calling them.......and if you say both parties are informed, i can survey them LMAO

Rooted Pixel 3 Users in the U.S.A., Please Answer a Question/Do a Test for me.

Hi,
I'm trying to figure what options there are for robust call recording apps on rooted Pixel 3's.
I'd like to know if a specific call recording application functions on Andriod Pie (or later) after rooting the device.
Here's the app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appstar.callrecorder&hl=en_US
If those running a rooted OP6T would install the app and make a few calls I'd appreciate it.
Here's a number to Health and Human Services Office of Civil Right (all prerecorded menus; we won't bother anyone) to do test calls: (800) 368-1019
You may need to do some basic setup. Make sure call recording occurs automatically, or allow the overlay and manually engage the call recording.
For those willing to go to some effort, if at first the app doesn't work, the "Recording Settings" can be tweaked.
I don't know what the difference is between methods, other than that they change how the app tries to get voice data to record.
Can you hear both yourself and the the caller in the recording?
What recording settings were used?
What format did the recording save to (AAC/MP3/Wav?)
What is the sound quality of the recording?
Do any of the above change if you plug in a USB-C earbud/microphone or earbud/microphone attached via USB-C to 3.5mm/TRRS.
(note: bluetooth headsets have compatibility issues even on phones the app works; headset would need to be wired for this test, though info on Bluetooth would be nice if one is so inclined to provide it)
In the applications inbox for recordings, does the number or contact information show up, or is it listed only as "outgoing" or "incoming" call.
Alternatively, I'd be interested in any information/experiences rooted users may have with other call recording software. Such as Another Call Recorder - Unchained (https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.nll.acr). In particular, reliability and call recording quality (as good as 'the call').
LastQuestion said:
Hi,
I'm trying to figure what options there are for robust call recording apps on rooted Pixel 3's.
I'd like to know if a specific call recording application functions on Andriod Pie (or later) after rooting the device.
Here's the app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appstar.callrecorder&hl=en_US
If those running a rooted OP6T would install the app and make a few calls I'd appreciate it.
Here's a number to Health and Human Services Office of Civil Right (all prerecorded menus; we won't bother anyone) to do test calls: (800) 368-1019
You may need to do some basic setup. Make sure call recording occurs automatically, or allow the overlay and manually engage the call recording.
For those willing to go to some effort, if at first the app doesn't work, the "Recording Settings" can be tweaked.
I don't know what the difference is between methods, other than that they change how the app tries to get voice data to record.
Can you hear both yourself and the the caller in the recording?
What recording settings were used?
What format did the recording save to (AAC/MP3/Wav?)
What is the sound quality of the recording?
Do any of the above change if you plug in a USB-C earbud/microphone or earbud/microphone attached via USB-C to 3.5mm/TRRS.
(note: bluetooth headsets have compatibility issues even on phones the app works; headset would need to be wired for this test, though info on Bluetooth would be nice if one is so inclined to provide it)
In the applications inbox for recordings, does the number or contact information show up, or is it listed only as "outgoing" or "incoming" call.
Alternatively, I'd be interested in any information/experiences rooted users may have with other call recording software. Such as Another Call Recorder - Unchained (https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.nll.acr). In particular, reliability and call recording quality (as good as 'the call').
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I am not going to do all of that, but Boldbeast (paid) is probably your best bet for a nice high quality recording but it requires a bunch of tweaking on a pixel running android 10.
I had absolutely 0 issues using it with my P3 on android 9, but once upgraded to android 10 the only way to get it to work (even with a magisk module they recommended) means losing your "Hey Google" and "Now Playing" auto-detect music feature within the OS (both which I like). So its either stick with Android 9 and have 0 issues, or upgrade to Android 10 and deal with a bunch of BS trying to get the Boldbeast app recorder to work. Google in android 10 is trying to block anyone from using a call recorder all together, they just want it this way. So, I digress.
My previous phone running Android 8 (which I use as a backup) has the app you listed, "Automatic Call Recorder PRO" (paid version obviously) and functions like a dream but its not my daily driver.
If I ultimately had to record a phone call, I swap my sim into that phone and have a nice WAV/MP3 file saved in the cloud.
TLDR; I have no real answer for you :laugh:
Supposedly Google is adding call recording into their phone app. I have not seen it yet.
Note10.1Dude said:
Supposedly Google is adding call recording into their phone app. I have not seen it yet.
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"With Google Voice, you press a button to start recording the call and then a voice comes on and announces that the call is being recorded. Everybody can hear the voice, so everyone knows that the call is being recorded."
The whole point to using a recorder app is so that someone doesn't know they are being recorded (this is legal is certain states, such as mine).
With an announcement "You are being recorded" kind of defeats the whole purpose. Unless maybe you are trying to keep questionable people honest over the phone with a .mp3 file/proof.
Maybe a Magisk/root hack would be able to turn off this message if google so-chooses to embed it that into the app.
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"With Google Voice, you press a button to start recording the call and then a voice comes on and announces that the call is being recorded. Everybody can hear the voice, so everyone knows that the call is being recorded."
The whole point to using a recorder app is so that someone doesn't know they are being recorded (this is legal is certain states, such as mine).
With an announcement "You are being recorded" kind of defeats the whole purpose. Unless maybe you are trying to keep questionable people honest over the phone with a .mp3 file/proof.
Maybe a Magisk/root hack would be able to turn off this message if google so-chooses to embed it that into the app.
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That's my conundrum as well. Legal for me to record. Moreover it's better to have an app automatically record all calls, and be able to organize them into a database with call notes to keep track of who and when. Half of my want to find a way to continue using the existing call recording app, is to preserve the existing database.
Rumsfield said:
"With Google Voice, you press a button to start recording the call and then a voice comes on and announces that the call is being recorded. Everybody can hear the voice, so everyone knows that the call is being recorded."
The whole point to using a recorder app is so that someone doesn't know they are being recorded (this is legal is certain states, such as mine).
With an announcement "You are being recorded" kind of defeats the whole purpose. Unless maybe you are trying to keep questionable people honest over the phone with a .mp3 file/proof.
Maybe a Magisk/root hack would be able to turn off this message if google so-chooses to embed it that into the app.
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Right, that would not be legal in my state.

Only silent video calls on Android.

Hi everybody. It is known that on Android, by means of various screen recorders, it is possible to record a video call. However, it is not possible to record its audio, so the video call is necessarily recorded silent. Google says this restriction is unavoidable for privacy reasons. I think this doesn't make any sense, especially in light of the fact that the Play Store is chock full of "phone recorders" that you can download and use without any restrictions. So why can I safely record the audio of a phone call and not the audio of a video call? Moreover, I make the video call to people I know (relatives, friends, etc.), while, with regard to phone calls, I can record the voice of anyone who talks to me, whether they are people I know or public or private entities. I will be grateful to anyone who will be able to provide me with an explanation on this very curious phenomenon. Thanks.

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