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I'm researching batteries with a view to getting the best life possible out of an XDA2 between recharges.
What replacement/spare batteries do people use and what is their power (mAh) rating?
What other things can people tell me on this?
I'm not averse to back-packs etc.
TIA
I have one of the batteries available on eBay. Seems the same as the original battery. I carry the spare in my belt case.
I got mine from www.pdamods.com and have been using it for three months now, must say better than the original and in fact looks like an original !!!
I have three batteries. One came with the unit, I bought another from the same shop, the third I bought 2nd hand. All appear identical and all 1200mah. I swap them through my XDA II every week or so so that they each get drained and recharged regularly. When not in use one is on charge in my desktop cradle in the office, other in my briefcase.
All seem to last about the same amount of time.
Must admit though since buying an integrated car kit for my XDA II (plus GPS) I do not have to swap batteries as often.
Ed
You can find batteries at 1400mAh, same size as the original and officially 20-30% increased autonomy.
Battery question
Thanks everyone for all the help you've given to me in the past. I have a couple battery related questions:
1. I just got a new battery from PCPockettechs. It is rated 3.8VDC 1200 mAh. The current battery in my XDA II is rated 3.7VDC 1200mAh. I have not tried the new battery yet and am worried that the extra 0.1VDC might cause it some harm. Does anyone know or have experience with this difference? Am i worrying for nothing?
2. The extra battery charger that is in the cradle - it does not appear to be working (the light does not come on). Does the XDA II battery have to be fully charged before it starts charging the extra battery? Does the cradle need to be plugged in to the AC (I have the EU cable which I cannot use) before it will charge or can it just be connected via USB as I do now?
Thanks again,
Sean
Hi,
When I purchased mine from www.pdamods.com it worked straight out of the box. Unless it is completely flat it should work even if charged for a short while, however you should charge it for 18 hours on the first charge.
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Does the cradle need to be plugged in to the AC (I have the EU cable which I cannot use) before it will charge or can it just be connected via USB as I do now?
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As far a I know you have to use the AC adapter. USB won't work.
Not true, I charge it with the USB, however NOTE it does take longer
The MDAII charges on USB only too.
Not sure about charging an extra battery (that is what the question is about I think)
thanks guys. Yes, the MDA II or XDA II both charge in the cradle just on USB... however, will it also charge the extra battery just on USB? I don't think it will unfortunately.
On my other question: does anyone know if the 0.1VDC difference will make a difference? The battery appears to be the right size, shape, same connectors, etc. as the original battery - the only difference being this 0.1VDC.
Anyone with some good electrical/technical info that they could share would be great. It would put my mind at ease - or stop me from making a big mistake!
The MDA II charges on USB (in the cradle).
But for the extra battery to charge in the cradle you need to plug in the power (and then the light will turn on!).
Hi guys,
I know if you unplug a charging phone in and out a lot it kills the battery, however my question is (as this was a big battery killer on my nokia n95) if I plug my touch pro into my pc and it has charged, will it then run purely off external power?
On my n95 it would charge, use a tiny bit of power on the battery and very shortly charge again. Obviously if my battery dipped again by a whole bar id want it to kick in the charger but that was crazy.
I'd like to leave my touch pro plugged in a lot for activesynch etc and charge at the same time so it would be nice to know if it's going to kill my battery.
I find that when the battery is charged the USB power will stop charging it. I charge overnight with my PC off on USB and come back and the full charged status is on.
Your PC should be able to provide 500mA through the port if the Touch Pro requests it, however the standalone charger is rated at 1A (1000mA) so if you are worried about using your device while charging then perhaps use it with the external charger.
I see no reason why your battery wouldnt be charged adequatly by the USB port though, generally you would be using less than your are getting from the usb port.
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I know if you unplug a charging phone in and out a lot it kills the battery
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erm... where did you hear that?
no it doesn't
maybe you mix it with the car ignition eating too much gas if you do it a lot?
Well, it used to be that way with the old NiCd batteries. Nowadays it's not an issue anymore.
My apologies, whilst lithium ion's don't have memory they do still lose overall power by each charge and discharge, even if it's not a complete one.
my 5 years old LOOX 720 disagrees with you
also my 5 year old HP IPAQ disagrees.
battery is as new and i charged it whenever i wanted.
same situation with my HTC Artemis, i bought it since the first day it went on sale and battery is as new!
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Well, it used to be that way with the old NiCd batteries. Nowadays it's not an issue anymore.
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This issue has come up so many times ..... i post again a link to a website with details on how to maximise a li-ion batterry. It clearly states that it prefers small discharges, with full discharges in every 30 charge cycles.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
As a external powersupply, it says that the capacity is 12000 MAh so enough for 12 charges, or do I make a mistake somewhere?
It seems that a miniUSB connection is suplied whit it so I shouldn't now why it wouldn't do the job and the size is (for me) acceptable with almost 3x3x0,5 inch, I mean for tracking at locations whitout electricity it could keep your GPS going.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19086
@hooty
I am sorry forget the link
Willem
Tried what? No link? Product name? Anything?
USB Charging
Not sure about how many times it would charge your diamond...but it looks like it has a Female USB connector so any USB cable could be plugged into it to charge ANY device...if your device allows USB charging that is.
Best regards
Wasim
12,000Mah!?!
Doubt it, must have been some serious squashing to get that much juice in there!
My laptop battery is twice the size of that and has 5100Mah capacity. Would be great to be able to charge it from that thing!
Ill just ordered
I just ordered the battery and as soon as it arrives I will write a review of it.
Willem
I don't think it'll work. There were some user reviews on similar charger saying it won't charge their ppc's through USB.
dervish666 said:
12,000Mah!?!
Doubt it, must have been some serious squashing to get that much juice in there!
My laptop battery is twice the size of that and has 5100Mah capacity. Would be great to be able to charge it from that thing!
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your laptop battery is also higher voltage, probably 12V.
think of the AA-size NiMh cells, the best ones are 1.2V 2800mAh.. two of those aren't close to the size of a laptop battery and yet they have higher mAh.
but you're right, 12000 mAh in that thing is utterly impossible
edit; anyone tried this?
http://www.instructables.com/id/Portable-USB-Charger-Version-2.0/
edit again; this seems more like a real product, but it's larger than the actual diamond is. not too convenient.
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=4125&t_mode=des
late edit; if a computer usb connection is too weak to charge the diamond, shouldn't it be possible to solder a cable that connects the diamond to two usb ports simultaneously?
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It seems that a miniUSB connection is suplied whit it so I shouldn't now why it wouldn't do the job
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I have one of those crummy double A chargers from energiser i got from a friend and using the mini usb included with it, the phone does indeed charge but only when its off. When its on the power its using makes the battery pack redundant, but thats for my crappy charger. I think this should work, and if not it would work for another phone or device.
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but you're right, 12000 mAh in that thing is utterly impossible
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I made a small calculation my 2000MAh is in size 40X35X10mm =14000mm3
The size of the 12000MAh is 74,93X74,93X14,986mm=84138,9704314
84138,9704314/14000=6,0099264593857142857142857142857
6,0099264593857142857142857142857 X 2000MAH (which is the size of my battery)=12019,85291877142857142857142857
Acoording this caluculation it should be physical possible I just don't now how much cell it has and neather or by just doubling the size you can double the capacity aswell.
Willem
ShatteredAxe said:
I have one of those crummy double A chargers from energiser i got from a friend and using the mini usb included with it, the phone does indeed charge but only when its off. When its on the power its using makes the battery pack redundant, but thats for my crappy charger. I think this should work, and if not it would work for another phone or device.
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That's true for another Li-Io-charger which I bought from DealExtreme. From what I can see, they don't check their inventory very thoroughly for function and quality. Most of the stuff is just fine, but there is also some junk - and my Li-Io-charger was among it.
Since they advertise it only for the PSP, I can imagine that it will not offer the high current to charge a working Touch Diamond.
Have fun!
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Since they advertise it only for the PSP, I can imagine that it will not offer the high current to charge a working Touch Diamond.
Have fun!
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Do you now howmuch is the power use off a PSP?
I do agree with you that not everything is made off gold what they sell at DealExtreme, I also bought already some useless stuff from them but this item should be a verry big mistake from them cause there are rumors at there site about this item, I even doubt about it aswell and thats why I cancelled the order but after I made the calculation I am in doubt again.
I travell a lot and one off the country's which I visit a lot is Brasil and for such a country whit the infrastructure availleble (or just NOT availleble)
If you make a long bus journey or plaintrip (Brasil is at least 12 hours where in you have nothing to do) or even in the bush or just tracking such a item could be ideal.
Willem
After a email with my doubts Deal extreme send me the folowing message, in a previous message Itould them about the doubts and asked them to check or the ordered battery is realy 12000 mAh, they have checek it with the suplyer which confirmed the capacity of the battery, as soon it arives I will post a review of it, which maid take a few days cause I want to test how many times I can charge my phone with both a 2000mAh and the original 900mAh battery.
Dear Willem ,
Thank you for your reply.
Item 19086 was shipped on 12/31/2008 after checking. The supplier informed that it is 12000mAh, we will keep the ticket open, please feel free to send the news once you got it?
Thanks a lot.
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Received the battery
Received today the battery but the Mini USB doesn't fit at my Diamond the output is 5V 700mA anyone now or this is enough to use and charge my Diamond at the same time cause if this is possible I will try to make a custom cable.
Someone can tell me aswell which contacts are used to charge a phone on mini USB, as you can see it seems the contacts are about the same there is just a diference at the outside off the connector, the main outside connector is a standard plug but I don't now or there are connectors at the market to make from the standard connection a mini USB
The connector fits at my dock and is able to charge my phone so in case of emergency I can charge the extra battery that way
Here some pictures
http://84.104.255.96/connector/index.html
Well I tested the battery and the outcome is disapointing, could charge my 2000mAh battery once complete so I gues all the critics about it where right, I have contacted Deal Extreem but untill now no answer.
Willem
I was curious about car chargers and I heard back in the day that if you use a car charger its actually bad for the battery because the power from the car isn't a constant "flow" is that true? Second question is it bad if you leave your Fuze/Touch Pro plugged charging for over 8 hours a day because im at work Mon-Fri and I just leave it plugged in so I was just curious if it will lessen the life of the battery..? Sorry if its dumb questions just curious
I personally use car charger as my main charger.
i used it also for the Herald and TyTnII... and i didn't feel any battery problem.
however you should pay attention for the charger brand/make.
i advise to have the original HTC one.
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... that if you use a car charger its actually bad for the battery because the power from the car isn't a constant "flow" is that true?
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during the start of the engine, the voltage level may drop and the charger may stop charging, but during the time you drive, there's no problem.
The generator produces about 100 A, so the 500 mA or 1 A current of your changer do not matter
So what if you charge you phone for long periods of time even though battery is fully charged? Any neg effects?
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So what if you charge you phone for long periods of time even though battery is fully charged? Any neg effects?
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It's not good for any battery to do that, but usually you go into trickle mode, which protects the battery (I don't know if the charger or the phone controls that). Over-charging batteries is one of the things that kills them. You can tell on your phone when it's in trickle mode, because the LED around the scroll wheel stops blinking (well, I think that's the notification for trickle mode-could be wrong).
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It's not good for any battery to do that, but usually you go into trickle mode, which protects the battery (I don't know if the charger or the phone controls that).
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The phone. Otherwise you couldn't charge via USB
I think the "don't charge in your car or you'll damage your battery or phone" is mostly an urban legend. Yes if you buy a crappy USB cig adapter that doesn't provide stable 5v then good luck. That said, even cheap adapters should be able to provide a good 5v source. 5v regulators have been around for ages. I bought them by the dozen 20 years ago when I was a teenager starting to play around with electronics. Even back then, they were less than a buck each if bought in bulk. So stable 5v supplies are not hard to come by. Voltage dips during startup isn't much of a problem either since regulators (even modern switching ones) only requires 10-20% headroom to operate which means as long as you are seeing 6-7v at the cig adapter, you're good. Your car wouldn't even start if it dipped that low. More likely an issue is the voltage spike that might occur right after the engine starts and the alternator kicks in. Most decent regulators will handle those as well. Chances are, you'll blow your adapter before anything damaging goes to your phone.
Recharging batteries requires a "fixed" current source. Modern rechargeable batteries (Li-Ion, Ni-Mh, etc) have charging profiles for optimal charges. That just means they need different currents at different stages of their charge cycle. It became clear pretty quickly that it was better to build the charging circuit into each device which did the best job for the battery it was designed for. That's been the case since the early mid 90s I think. What this means is that pretty much all devices built to be rechargeable (whether the battery is replaceable or not) only requires a simple consistent voltage source. This is why we have the "Universal" chargers today and why they are so cheap. I would still not pay $20 for one though. I'll spend 10 to get the generic brand which is just as good without the brandname on the package. The funny thing is, most of these power supplies come from just a handful of overseas manufacturers so you might be getting exactly the same thing. The only one's I'd avoid are those really cheap ones like the like the ones you might see on ebay. Most of them are actually good but some less reputable sellers might have gotten reject stock form somewhere and is selling them. These units are rejected because they didn't meet voltage/current specs and the person that was supposed to throw them out sells a huge box of them to someone for $50 or some such.
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Second question is it bad if you leave your Fuze/Touch Pro plugged charging for over 8 hours a day because im at work Mon-Fri and I just leave it plugged in.
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Li-On batteries dont really have a problem with charging them from any state to full, no memory really. However if you have a full charge and leave it plugged in you can burn them out in which case they do not retain that charge for very long. It will over periods of time shorten the life of the battery. It usually wont happen on the first go (depending on how long after full you leave it charging.)
Safest way to keep your battery happy is not to let it drain to complete empty and to take it off the charger when its done.
Interesting info guys.. so it looks like on the safe side that im not going to leave it plugged in for long hours..
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Interesting info guys.. so it looks like on the safe side that im not going to leave it plugged in for long hours..
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most modern battery chemistry has a life of around 1000 recharge cycles. It doesn't matter if they are full charges or half charges so even though there isn't a classic memory affect, it does nibble away at the recharge cycles. To put it another way, a given battery loses 1/1000 of it's capacity every time it's charged to full charge. Not really memory but just steady degration. All charging circuits today either stops charging or does trickle charge once full. BTW, trickle is a term that applies mainly to pb and NiCad betteries.. today's batteries actually use a form pulse charging for maintenance. Now this protects the battery from overcharging but if you leave it plugged in, the charging circuit will basically go into this mode of letting the battery drain a bit and then charging it. This will eat away at a batteries life. A real world example... my wife and I had near identical laptops ant one point. She left hers plugged in most of the time whereas I drained my battery each time before recharging. When her battery started lasting only 10mins on a "full" charge, mine was still at about 1.5hrs. It took her battery only a year to fail where mine didn't go dead (i.e. below 1hr per charge) until over 18months.
My advice is don't leave it plugged in but once it's about 20-30% of full it's ok to recharge. Hell, if you think about, 1000 recharges will last almost 3 years of daily charging. So what if it only lasted 2. Any of us would likely be on to the next phone or be willing to buy a second battery.
When I exchanged my Fuze for a new one at AT&T, the service person said my battery was bad, due to overcharging.(Battery had a slight bulge). She said leaving my Fuze plugged into my car charger and my computer(with charging turned on) degraded the battery. Phone was about 7 months old.
There is an option to NOT charge the battery when connected by USB to the computer.(kind of indicates no automatic charging control)
Well, I use my Fuze as a computer 12-14 hours a day. I want to see the screen, which means I need it plugged in either to the computer or car charger.
If I turn off recharging when connected to my computer, I end up with a dead battery pretty quickly, since I use it a lot as my business phone with a Bluetooth speakerphone.
The AT&T person said this information was given to them by HTC.
bigger capacity battery or get another device(netbook) that can sustain the 'abuse'?
bigger capacity battery won't solve it
Without it being plugged in, the screen turns off. Even a large battery wouldn't last with the screen on all the time, if even you could figure out how to make it stay on.
I had to plug in the earphone dongle and plug the car charger in to that, to get the screen to stay on in my car. Plugging the car charger directly into the phone, the screen would turn off no matter what I tried.
I guess I need to replace the battery every 8-12 months.
Yikes, there's so much misinformation about batteries in this thread, it's frightening.
so point us to better info
All I know was that my battery was bulging a bit after 7 months of use, and it was holding a charge less and less.
And I reported what AT&T told me..
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All I know was that my battery was bulging a bit after 7 months of use, and it was holding a charge less and less.
And I reported what AT&T told me..
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I'm not saying your battery isn't broken, and I'm not saying your charger (part of the phone nowdays) didn't go haywire and break it. I AM saying, however, that leaving the phone plugged in didn't do it (unless, of course, your charging hardware was faulty, in which case you're screwed anyway).
Lithium-Ion batteries don't get overcharged, because they tend to explode. That's generally considered a no-no for batteries, especially in consumer devices, so the charging hardware is designed to stop charging when the battery is full. An occasional "topping charge" is applied (by some chargers) because of the self-discharge of the cells. I kinda doubt that our phones do that, though, because it's only something like 1h of topping charge once every 20 days.
Let me repeat this again for absolute clarity: lithium-ion chargers STOP CHARGING when the battery is full. Leave it plugged in as long as you want, and (assuming the charging hardware isn't broken) it'll be fine.
So you're saying what AT&T told me was bullsh**t
Not that I believe what AT&T says or the given reasons, which didn't make sense from a technical standpoint.
But then you wonder why there is an option in the Fuze to NOT CHARGE the phone when connected to a computer using USB.
And I did see the bulge, and AT&T did replace the battery under warranty.
But then you wonder why there is an option in the Fuze to NOT CHARGE the phone when connected to a computer using USB.
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Perhaps that option is available so when your laptop is not plugged into AC power, you can connect your phone without worrying about draining the laptop battery.
laptop
Seriously doubt that option was designed for laptops.
The phone would take very little from a laptop battery.
And would probably be labeled for laptop use.
I think that the phone drops a few % in power, then recharges, and does that constantly while plugged into a computer, causing the battery to waste the 800-1000 recharge cycles that it has.
Be nice if you could set the phone to not recharge when connected to a computer unless the power dropped 25% --or make it configurable.
Manually turning the charging off/on is impracticable.
Maybe a program can/has been written to cycle the charging off/on properly.
Just Mobile 4400 mAh Charger: http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=166301
PPC Tech's 5 Pin Adaptor: http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=145975
Found another: http://www.tang-shop.com/universal-external-battery-powerbox.html DO NOT TRUST THIS SITE!!!
I want to buy a portable charger, anyone have any experience on this brand?
Can you recommend what you are using? Can it charge fast? I read some chargers can't charge fast.
I'm having real problems with portable chargers for the X7510
I have a U2O 13200 mAh charger for my Advent netbook, which also has a USB output for mobile devices at 5V/ 1000mA, but unless the X7510 is on standby, or in screenoff mode, it won't charge fully and takes an age. Likewise for my Maplin minicharger, though that's no real surprise.
The only reliable way to charge mine without the wall charger, is to plug it into my Brodit active holder in the car! For some reason the X7510 seems to draw more current than USB can supply when turned on- not something I noticed with the X7500.
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I'm having real problems with portable chargers for the X7510
I have a U2O 13200 mAh charger for my Advent netbook,
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This looks nice. Sad that it does not work well with the X7510.
Does it maintain the battery level if you have your X7510 turned on while charging?
NeilM said:
I'm having real problems with portable chargers for the X7510
I have a U2O 13200 mAh charger for my Advent netbook, which also has a USB output for mobile devices at 5V/ 1000mA, but unless the X7510 is on standby, or in screenoff mode, it won't charge fully and takes an age. Likewise for my Maplin minicharger, though that's no real surprise.
The only reliable way to charge mine without the wall charger, is to plug it into my Brodit active holder in the car! For some reason the X7510 seems to draw more current than USB can supply when turned on- not something I noticed with the X7500.
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I wonder if the USB adapter on this link (post #7) can fix your charging problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387531&highlight=usb+chargers
or how about using the original active sync chord to charge?
I might go for this charger: http://www.tang-shop.com/universal-external-battery-powerbox.html
Then I will also buy the PPC Tech's 5 pin Adaptor: http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=145975
Thanks for that info- may try the adapter. I'd just seen a similar post on Modaco about the Omnia and Diamond CDMA phones and the fast charge/trickle charge problems. 1st I'd heard about the differing pinouts!
I've tried all the different USB cables- the X7510 is only supplied with a standard USB cable (at least mine was) though my Diamond has the enhanced one. Neither makes any difference. My problem is not really that it won't charge from the power pack, but that if left turned on, the power pack stops charging after a time and I have to press the charge button again to restart it.
USB via the PC just about manages to trickle charge it, unless its set to Disk Drive mode, in which case it is faster; screenoff/standby is faster still.
Keep us updated!
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Yes, I'll post my update and review. I'll be ordering them today. Hopefully this will work
Hi all, I travel a lot by train and I am always using my flint to watch videos etc.
I have two Emergency chargers and I manage to use both of them happily,
A couple of things i will note down are,
They both power the device and I cant get a decent charge out of either of them but the flint will drain the external battery first. e.g. If I am watching a video I plug in either of the batteries and the flint will deplete those before it starts using its internal battery.
I have noticed a decreased charging time (Faster Charge) when the phone is in storage drive mode. I have no idea how this would help its just something I have observed while using the chargers.
On the odd occasion the flint will attempt to Sync to the batteries!? Again this is complete madness, the only explanation I can think of is the phone assumes its plugged into my PC.
The chargers i use are,
Emergency Charger
I like this one because it takes standard AA batteries which are available everywhere. It provides about 1 hour to 1 hour 30 minuets of constant power on a Standard Duracell AA.
FreeLoader Solar Charger
This one i bought ages ago the solar panels are not up to scratch so i charge it via USB. It provides 1 hour of constant power.
Hope this helps you out; let me know if you need any other info.
Regards
Atomiser
Now I'm interested in this, too. I'm planning on doing a cycle ride from John O'Groats (Nothern tip of the UK) to Land's End (Southern tip) - commonly referred to as a JOGLE.
During my JOGLE I will be using GPSed (www.gpsed.com) to track my progress. This means I'll be using the data connection to upload every five minutes or so, as well as constantly using GPS to log the route.
Needless to say I don't quite expect my battery to last the 6 to 8 hours of cycling I'll be doing every day, so I need to look into some other methods of charging my x7510.
Also, cycling in the UK means that solar chargers are more often than not somewhat less useful than what they'd be in sunny climates, like Turkey.
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Hope this helps you out; let me know if you need any other info.
Regards
Atomiser
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The information is definitely useful. Thanks.
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Needless to say I don't quite expect my battery to last the 6 to 8 hours of cycling I'll be doing every day, so I need to look into some other methods of charging my x7510.
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I believe NeilM's suggestion of U2O 13,200 mAh battery charger is an excellent option for your need.
When I get my charger, I will try and charge without the PPC Tech Adapter and see if it will fast charge or not. If it won't, I will then use the Adapter and see if it works.
Nanoruler- you have a PM
Don't trust tang-shop.com
DON'T TRUST TANGSHOP.COM
I tried contacting them after placing my order and no response. I already allerted my credit card provider and I will report them to the BBB.
Off to look for another charger.
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When I get my charger, I will try and charge without the PPC Tech Adapter and see if it will fast charge or not. If it won't, I will then use the Adapter and see if it works.
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I decided to skip this proceedure and use the PPC Tech 5 pin adaptor with the 4400 mAh from Just Mobile. I will then ran a movie in continous loop and see how long it will take for the charger to be depleted.
UPDATE:
I ran a movie in loops with BT headset stereo ON for sound. My X7510 was fully charged with green indicator lights and so is the battery charger. The Just Mobile 4400 mAh Charger lasted 5 hours until my X7510 had to rely on its own battery power.
I also connected the PPC 5 pin USB. Basically my X7510 used up the power of the charger first, as I can see the green indicator light on my X7510 for the full 5 hours.
I would definitely recommend this charger to anyone. It is small, about the size of 2 AA batteries stacked side by side. It is well made and the finish feels like it is coated with rubber to give you a none smudge surface probably to avoid sliding off the table. I give it 10/10.
Excellent news!
Do you think the PPCTechs cable makes a difference? Not got around to trying one yet!
NeilM said:
Excellent news!
Do you think the PPCTechs cable makes a difference? Not got around to trying one yet!
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OK, I'll test it too just for you. I will only use the cable provided by the Just Mobile Charger 4400 mAh, since in my first test I already made use of PPC Tech's 5 pin adaptor. I just finished charging my X7510 from the wall outlet so it has its green indicator light on. I am now waiting for the green indicator light to turn back on after attaching the charger so I can start the test again. Will update you guys with the result.
Update:
10 minutes passed and I don't see the green indicator light. I have my X7510 setup so that if it is charging the screen is turned on with full brightness. It makes me think the 5 pin adaptor does make a difference.
30 minutes passed.... all I saw was the orange indicator light (my device is charging). I think it is safe to assume the PPC Tech's 5 pin adaptor DOES WORK. The charger can't keep up with the demand of my device, with just the screen turned on with full brightness.
I will now attach the 5 pin adaptor and wait....it took 15 min for the green indicator light to show.
CONCLUSION: The PPC Tech's 5 pin adaptor does work for fast charging the X7510.
Thats great! <getting credit card out and calling Expansys!>
For reasons unimportant here, I only have an HTC Diamond charger. When I use that with the X7510, it keeps turning the power on (ie it won't charge in standby), so this may be related to the USB config. I'll try the PPC Techs version!
NeilM said:
it keeps turning the power on (ie it won't charge in standby)
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Are you sure you programmed your device to shut off when charging?
Because on mine, I have it setup so that the screen is always on and in full brightness when charging or syncing via cable.
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Are you sure you programmed your device to shut off when charging?
Because on mine, I have it setup so that the screen is always on and in full brightness when charging or syncing via cable.
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I need to recheck the config!
Fast-charge adapter
cktlcmd said:
Just Mobile 4400 mAh Charger: http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=166301
PPC Tech's 5 Pin Adaptor: http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=145975
Found another: http://www.tang-shop.com/universal-external-battery-powerbox.html DO NOT TRUST THIS SITE!!!
I want to buy a portable charger, anyone have any experience on this brand?
Can you recommend what you are using? Can it charge fast? I read some chargers can't charge fast.
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I have experience with a device RELATED to that 5-pin adaptor. It is called "HTC Advantage Lil Sync DUO Pro HandsFree & Charging Adapter" (http://www.ppctechs.com/HTC-Advanta...c-DUO-Pro-HandsFree-Charging-Adapter_1008.htm). I have used these for years with HTC Advantage x7501s. I would have to say they are ALMOST correct when they say:
"In some cases, your HTC Advantage will not charge from an AC/DC adapter or other charging accessory when the battery life is below 30 percent. Our Lil Sync® Duo Pro Adapter will charge your device from a completely drained battery."
I've never had it get that bad, but it can be very slow to charge once it gets below 20%. And using a high-current adapter doesn't help. (A high-voltage one might charge faster. Use at your own risk.) Using the Adapter_1008 with the switch set to F will often get it charging even from a computer's USB port. But not always.
I've only had an Athena 1.5 (Ameo 16GB from T-Mobile UK) for a day, so I have limited info. It does acknowledge it is charging with the switch in either the S or F position, so it is a fair guess that it uses the same pinouts for charging. YMMV.
I have found that the HTC x7501s are just plain weird about recognizing headphones, with or without the adapter. I have built various hypotheses about it, and the machines have disproven every one.