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So here's the thing, on any cellphone, whenever an SMS comes in, a sound or tone can be set for it, and when you open the message, the sound stops. On an xda2, the sound just continues even though you already opened and read the SMS.
Can this be altered in the registry?
I cant use long SMS sound notifiers because, every time an incoming SMS is received, the whole sound clips plays and its annoying.
mate, you saying that the sound played for your sms is continuous but not repeating? that's what happens when the sound/wav file used for the notification is too long; i think the unit will keep on playing it until the whole file is finished. similar to your alarms; unless you click it off the unit will finish the sound or loop it (if you want it too). if this is the case you can just change the wav file assigned to the sms notification...a shorter one would help..
cheers
yup, its continuous, even after opening the SMS. A long SMS notifier would be okay, but as ive said, its annoying if while im reading the SMS, the sound still plays. Hope theres a workaround for this.
Yeah its really annoying when you can't stop the sound while reading the message! :?
I was forced to assign a 1 sec length wav file instead of my favourite sound
I wonder why they didn't solve this issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Turning the sound off when you go to look at the message usually works for me
well, its not that practical way to do so....!! :!:
davidand1 Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 17:20 Post subject:
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Turning the sound off when you go to look at the message usually works for me
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It could work, but its still a 2 step process. DCS? Waxx? ZeroExtreme? Any answers to this?
Hi All, I've noticed that a few times my TC has stopped playing alerts for SMS & Emails. I've gone into the "alerts & notifications" page, and when I select the SMS or Email drop down and hit the play button, it still doesn't work. (Standard phone call ringer still works though)
As soon as I change the choice of alert, and back again, it starts working again.
Any idea what's causing it to stop, or maybe hang? I've tried using different tones, but it's still the same; works for a while and then doesn't.
try after changing u,r sound profile.
FWIW, I had the same problem with my Touch/Elf when using an MP3 for alerts. Sounds like a little software bug to me.
jefmcg, I've tried changing the MP3s to WAV but it still happens.
Alipi, you seem to be right, it happens after I've change to silent and back again. It doesn't seem to put the email and SMS tone back to normal volume.
Does anyone else have this issue?
I'm using the O2 profiles app to change profiles, as the HTC home one doesn't allow you to put any additional ones on. I like to have a "sleep" profile, which doesn't beep for SMS or email, but does ring the phone.
Open to any suggestions or workarounds!
BadTasteUK said:
jefmcg, I've tried changing the MP3s to WAV but it still happens.
Alipi, you seem to be right, it happens after I've change to silent and back again. It doesn't seem to put the email and SMS tone back to normal volume.
Does anyone else have this issue?
I'm using the O2 profiles app to change profiles, as the HTC home one doesn't allow you to put any additional ones on. I like to have a "sleep" profile, which doesn't beep for SMS or email, but does ring the phone.
Open to any suggestions or workarounds!
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Hi,
I have the same problem. But until today I though I´m alone . And I haven´t investigate that it arises after I switched form silent to "normal". Have to look into this as well...
Sorry, but I haven´t got any workaround, maybe someone else...
Pobably dont belong in this thread but i have the exact same issue/problem with my Tmo Wing, everytime i change the sms tone (incoming text) it works fine for the first 5 or so text but after that just goes silent when receiving new ones...a fix or advice would really be appreciated...i have no clue
UPDATE!
Ok, so I'm an idiot!
I thought I had deleted the mp3 versions of my ringtones and replaced them with wav files, but I hadn't. I've since done it, and whilst they do sound slightly different (crap converter?), it SEEMS to have fixed the problem....
...at least I've tried to move in and out of silent a few times, and the tones still sound!
So, guys, perhaps try converting them to WAV and go from there. FYI, my tones sit in the windows folder.
BadTasteUK said:
Ok, so I'm an idiot!
I thought I had deleted the mp3 versions of my ringtones and replaced them with wav files, but I hadn't. I've since done it, and whilst they do sound slightly different (crap converter?), it SEEMS to have fixed the problem....
...at least I've tried to move in and out of silent a few times, and the tones still sound!
So, guys, perhaps try converting them to WAV and go from there. FYI, my tones sit in the windows folder.
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stupid question, how do i convert mp3 to wav...also i have all my tones in ringtone folder shold i copy them to windows?
timace said:
also i have all my tones in ringtone folder shold i copy them to windows?
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No - for some strange reason, ring tones need to be in \WINDOWS\RINGS, but SMS and other notification tones need to be in \WINDOWS.
Yet Another Update!
OK, so converting to WAV, only worked for a while, it did eventually stop beeping for texts and emails.
HOWEVER... philip gave me a great recommendation of PocketZenPhone, which is much more powerful at managing profiles, and especially on the text and email alerts, ACTUALLY WORKS!
hi.. i was thinking of something that may be of use regarding stopping SMS tone sound/vibrate via keypress (or assigned key) or screentap..
maybe if we could have a background program that monitors incoming SMS.. when an SMS comes in, it plays the selected sms tone and/or vibrate - but at the same time, captures all buttons (or an assigned key perhaps - like games) and/or screen areas so that it continues to play the song only if any of these actions (button press or tap) are made -in which the background program will stop the tone and or vibration it is playing..
the thing is, there is really no way of stoping any notification because it is handled by the OS itself..
so, maybe one of the initial requirements for this idea to fully work is to disable the native SMS Sound (and vibrate) notification so that the OS will do nothing upon an incoming SMS.. (it can be done so by unchecking the play sound and vibrate boxes in the incoming text message section of the Sounds and Notifications Settings)
so the SMS notification function (sound and vibrate) will be fully handled by the proposed program suggestion..
imagine it like this..
it is like having a background media player with just 1 song in its playlist and that is your SMS alert tone..
it stays in the background, invisible, but it monitors the sms notification database.
if an incoming SMS (or email whatever) is detected, it starts to play the song in the playlist once..
it then takes control over all physical input controls in the device (buttons, scrolls, volume sliders, touchscreen) - ala buttons locking program - in which all of the input controls are assigned as a STOP playing function..
so when you press a button (or tap the screen whatsoever) the program will stop the background music, unlock all buttons to it's normal functions and returns to the background - awaiting another incoming SMS..
another analogy can be made is that it is like an alarm clock program, it stays in the background, but instead of waiting for a time to strike before activating the alarm, it waits for an incoming SMS (or email whatsoever).. and like alarm programs, it will become activated from the background (so that it will become the top/active window/program) and takes control of the hardware buttons and the screentaps (some alarm programs do this so you can stop the alarm with any button or screen tap).. then after dismissing the alarm, it returns to the background and once again wait.. the only difference is, the active window of this program is invisible, meaning, no visible window will be imposed in the screen (only the title bar will change i presume)..
it sounds simple enough.. but i'm no programmer and i don't have any idea if even half of what i said can easily be done..
i just know that these things can be done because such things have already been done or is a part of exsisting programs.
like detecting incoming SMS (can be done by scripting, or have been done by SMS-like programs)
making a program that resides in the background
making a program that is invisible (not detectable by task manager and has no visible window) even if active
and of course music playback and vibration control (aside from media players most of these are alarm programs)
i hope this can help.. and someone can develop a little program from the idea..
thanks..
here is some reference/source code on detecting incoming SMS .. i don't know if it works because i can't read .net and progy stuff.. but i hope it can help
http://twit88.com/blog/2008/03/03/net-detect-incoming-call-or-sms-in-windows-mobile-phone/
http://www.devx.com/wireless/Article/32305/1954
anyone?
guess programmers are busy.. hehehe..
It's more like nobody's interested.
Though I do kinda miss it when my Nokia stops playing the alert/vibrate when I press a button.. but I'm already ok with it right now.
I just make short alert tones 3 - 5 seconds long.
Ok lang yan pre, mga tao kasi dito ayaw ng may additional background services pa dahil every byte of memory counts. Unless kaya talaga nila baguhin ung notification dll, they won't be interested.
I actually wouldnt mind this as well! Although im not a ppc programmer or anything.
But i cant assign a longer sms tone (The one that goes "Message....Message...Message....") and as it goes longer it slowly goes louder and louder.
Love that sms tone but i cant put it on because i cant stop it by pressing a button - which you could do with normal phones.
Im keen to support and this project if anyone takes it!
(Im glad i wasnt the only person who wanted this!)
thanks for the support guys.. upping this again, hoping that some good programmer can spare some time..
yeah.. i really miss the "normal" phone/notification behavior of other Mobile OS..
the problem is so basic that the big annoyance and inconvinience can't easily be tolerated..
it's been a problem ever since people started using a WM phone (and i've been using WM phones for almost 5 years now)..
they say, just assign shorter tones.. but that is not the point.. doing so is not really a solution.. it is more likely tolerating the problem and adding another problem..
the problem with assigning short SMS tones is that you are limited only to short ones (which is a rarity these days), and most of the times the old school cheesy ones..
cropping and converting tones (mostly from mp3 songs) to shorter ones need a PC (or a special in phone program), which is a hassle all the time.. you can't even download and immediately use tone contents off the web/wap/carrier or use tones sent from other people's phones.. you always need to shorten it up so it won't play infinitely when receiving a text message..
@kabayan da vinci.. mahirap talaga maging iba sa nokia country.. hehe..
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Guess no one really wants this except you and myself ytsejam_....haha...
i don't really get it.. it is an OS/Phone function and SHOULD be given attention.. and should have been so, decades ago.. but people are just plain gaga about skinning and all apps and stuff nowadays are centered on making our WMs into iphones (instead of solving OS problems)..
the basic problems and functions already ignored..
well.. just my 2 cents.. i'm also grateful for the nice skin and plugin apps made in this forum.. and much respect for those people..
and.. please.. no flaming thanks
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Upped, has anyone found an alternative or anything?
Hi, just come across this thread. My Samsung Omnia CAN stop the sound/vibration on incoming SMS by pressing the hang button, dunno if other PPC/PDA's will behave the same way
Btw, my old Nokia 6280 worked exactly the same way, just pressing the hang button
this would be realllly nice.. i just want a normal music ringtone that doesnt have to play for 30 seconds everytime i get a text
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Guess no one really wants this except you and myself ytsejam_....haha...
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hey i want this too... its kinda irritating me u see. i have msg tone which is about 10seconds i cant wait that long to read a msg hehehe so everytime when the SMS tone i playing i read a msg while its playing the nexttime a msg comes the sound does not play at all. So im supporting this one hoping someone could do something with this..
maybe if there was a way to play 2 tones but the second would be silent n play when u open a message that might stop the first tone
Up 1. I support this idea too. It's kinda irritating when u in some meeting or conferences while u forget to silent up ur phone. The tone will keep ringing until it end. Me myself met this situation b4 and the bad experience still irritating me... XD
ytsejam_ : Based from your handle, you must've wanted to assign a Dream Theater song as your text tone... That's why you thought of this... Hehehe!
BTT: I support this idea, as well...
I hadn´t look the full API searching for a solution for there problem, but I imagine that there´s now way stop the SO playing a sound after he started. What could happen is to turn-off all the SO notifications for SMS and use another program to show this notifications... then in this new program includes an option to stop play the sms tone...
Testing in my HTC Touch... when I use the hardware button for setting volume... it stop vibration and playing sound for calls and sms incoming...
some idea
i noticed that you can stop the long sms alert by navigating to sounds & notifications - sms tone , and press stop button ■. maybe someone can find the source code to relate this touch button press to hardware button in order to stop the tones.
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I'm having a real bugger of a time managing with how my phone is behaving lately. It's a Sprint Mogul PPC-6800 (Titan) running WM6.
I'm not sure what's causing it, but here is what is happening. When a text message, missed call, or voicemail event comes in, I have it set to flash the light. There seems to be a delay of a few seconds from when the message is displayed to when the light actually starts flashing. If I dismiss the alert before the light starts flashing, the light will flash until the timeout in the notification configuration.
Also, lately.. it's been randomly playing the 'infbeg' and 'infend' wav files. It will start playing unsolicited, and play at random intervals. The only way I have found to stop this is to perform a soft reset.
What I'm looking for is this: Is there a debug program available that will log the system events.. what programs are triggering which notification alerts, etc. Also, is there a program that would reset all these alerts. Basically to act as the 'dismiss' button when it shows?
Thanks for your help!
i didn't get a reply... *bump*
if anybody has any ideas...
does anyone know how to fix this....thanks in advance
did you set the sound notification to repeat?
it will not let me check the repeat box
same thing happened with mine. i changed to a shorter ring tone
If its a long ringtone it wont stop until it ends even if your viewing the message, so the only solution is to have a very short ringtone 3-5 seconds long
Have you got mp3 trimmer in Programs?
If so, you can choose a portion of the song to use for texts.
It used to annoy me, until I got the T-Mobile MDA Vario IV, and saw the program!!