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Did anyone experience an unexplained loss of data (in particular, the "My Documents" folder) on their SD card after overclocking their device (Jamin)?
I overclocked it yesterday and while everything works like a charm, the entire My Documents folder disappeared from my SD card - gone, like the wind. Everything else is still there, and from the memory reading it seems like it's still full, too - but the content of the folders currently on the card can in no way make up for 600 Mb. I can't see the folder, and the Jamin can't access them, but the content is still there... somehow.
Tried the card on another pocket pc, same thing. Can't see most of my files. Any ideas? Help is highly appreciated!
Karin
I've been running overclocked at 252mhz for well over a month now and not had any data loss.
What brand memory card is it?
It's a Lexar. 1 Gig. I think maybe it's because I put the OmapClock program file into the storage card and linked from there?
I'll try to put the exe file into the Windows folder now, and then re-do the link process again. Hopefully it will work. I am used to the faster speed now and I don't want to go molasses again....
I too had the same problem... TWICE!!!
I thought at first it was a problem with Memaid, but it seems to be related more with overclocking. I too ran Omapclock.exe from the card and was accessed trhough a shortcut that was called through the camera button.
Now I just don't overclock just to see how it goes, but yes, I'd better be at 240 Mhz than 180 Mhz... But now I have to backup my SD card every now and then just in case... :?
SD data loss
I've also had SD data loss...
Twice in the last week ...
I am NOT running any overclocking on my JAMin but was using a no-name brand 4G miniSD card.
With the first failure, the result was as you describe. A full looking card, but nowhere near that amount of data on the card.
The second time 'round, I found that the SD card was filled up with empty directories !?! ...
I've put the 4GB card away for a while and have gone back to a 1Gb card (and keep a backup card, complete copy, nearby).
Sorry, my case not connected with overclocking, but same kind of data loss !
Cheers,
Wit C.
Hi everyone!
I have an annoying problem with my orbit2 and its sd-card: every now and then the orbit corrupts the card so that the explorer does no longer list any files or directories. the files seem to be still present though as the memory manager claims the space still occupied. looks like the FAT is smashed somehow.
this happend with the standard 1gb card several weeks ago and now again with my new 4gb card as well. the problem this time is a) i want to get the data back and b) ensure this won't happen again.
i cant access the card by one of my two cardreaders, they get both stuck when the card is inserted.
i already googled around for some hours and of course tried to find a problem description in here but didnt find satisfying results ;-(
any of you got some information and suggestions 'bout this problem?
thx already
niGGo
Same problem here, does not register in any card readers either, most annoying!
format the SD card before use. it will solve the issuehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
solve the issue of not being detected by the card reader maybe ...
but what about the data loss on the xda? there is not even a write protection switch for a microSD card
My orbit 2 hasn't currupted my 4gb MicroSD card. I formatted it into FAT32 before I put it in my phone, so that might be why. Doesn't FAT have a limit of 3.5gb or sommat, where as FAT32 is much more.
hmm guess you are right but mine is already fat32 formatted
i never did this by hand so it was already like this when i bought it......
yep.... me too. After four weeks, my sd card shows folders with squares in the name fields... can't open them and lost a bunch of photos and videos, not to mention the applications that were installed in there as well...
4GB ScanDisk micro SD card
Must be some software on the device causing that, can't think it's a problem with the SD card
hmm hmm hmm ... was not using a programm shortly before the problem ocurred. i have a SanDisk card as well btw but as said in the first post the problem ocurred once with the 1gig card as well ...
i will try to get a cardreader that can deal with sdhc cards and then try to check the card again .....
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Must be some software on the device causing that, can't think it's a problem with the SD card
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I have considered that possibility... or maybe some particular configuration of one of the programs installed.
But I haven't changed anything in about four days... then only today the problem occurred. Only thing unusual I did today was take a bunch of photos and shoot some 4 or five 1 minute videos... could it be a problem related to CorePlayer/Camera/Video recording??
When I got back and synched it, the sd card was messed up... but I still could read my photos through the phone... then after a soft reset, the phone was not able to read my sd card anymore...
coreplayer is installed on my device as well but i don't think its related to it (just a feeling though)
the more interesting point is that you tool some photos .... i'm not totally sure but i've taken some pictures recently before the crash as well and they get saved to the storage card on my device ....
i will switch the save location back to main memory now for testing purposes and wait some weeks if theres no better idea
Hi,
I had the same problem with my 8GB SanDisk card every two or three days until recently. Two things changed:
1. flashed bepe's WM6.1 image
2. didn't install MortPlayer yet which I had running before
Now everything seems to be working fine. No problems for a week now.
I thought maybe there's a bug in WM6.0.
hmm i don't wanna install an unofficial WM update or ROM on my cellphone ... no problem doin' stuff like this on my pc or satellite receiver but my cell is kept clean
hope there will be a regular update then soon ....
...my experiences:
I had several crushes of the SD card, where I have lost almost all of the content. First lesson:
Backup/Sync SD with my PC regularly, so this is more a time issue now
Second:
I have discovered, that the loss happens (at least valid for me) when:
- device wake up from standby by pressing power button
and
- a program is running, which accesses data on SD card, like MP3 player, ebook reader or Navigation. All of them sores data on SD card.
Possibly a bug in the card handling part of code, where data/buffer is being written falsly, during wake up of the SDdevice.....
Can somebody proof that?
Regards
Dejan
I have never had a SD card corrupt on me.......My TC is as it came out of the box.....I have installed;
- AstroNavigator II
- Fun Contacts
- SMS Notifier
- PZP
I hope this helps..........
Will
I also encountered the first problem of this kind today:
Although I can still take photos on the card and they claim to be stored in /DCIM/100MEDIA/IMAGxxxx.JPG, the DCIM is shown totally empty when trying to access it via Explorer.
When I try to open the DCIM Directory with the tool Total Commander, the tool shows up an "Error 13 at directory change".
Does this mean my card is defect now? All the other directories seem to be okay. It is the original card I got with the XDA with TomTom installed on it. So I guess I might take it back to my provider.
Regards
Michael
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yep.... me too. After four weeks, my sd card shows folders with squares in the name fields... can't open them and lost a bunch of photos and videos, not to mention the applications that were installed in there as well...
4GB ScanDisk micro SD card
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I have the same card.
Even the same problem for a few times. For me a soft reset solved the problems. I had no data loss. So I would assume that it's a problem of the phone not being able to read the card properly for some reason.
Same here
I have an 8GB SD card and some of my folders vanished while some remained. All the files in the root are gone.
I used an SDHC reader to check on my PC and it cannot see the missing folder either.
Any suggestions for a good freeware MicroSD data recovery?
I guess the theory of the phone going standby while an app is writing to a buffer in the card is causing the big mess is right...
Cheers,
-Feaps
My two pen'orth -
Is this isolated or a major problem?
>I guess the theory of the phone going standby while an app is writing to a buffer in the card is causing the big mess is right...
If windows is using write back cacheing and the device switches off with the file data in the cache then maybe the card FAT is being corrupted
the artemis had this same problem, have a look in the sticky at the top of the artemis threads for the fix (it's worth reading), maybe it will work for the polaris, luckily I don't have one yet so I can't try it myself.
Regards
Kim
thought I lost all in my memory card (sandisk 6Gb) . That happened after reinserting the card in the cruise .
I found with the explorer that my card was empty ....but , I found also a card number 2 .
During the time when my card was out the Cruise , I used probably a program who needed a storage card . So I think (but maybe I'm totally wrong) that WM6 created a virtual card within the PocketPC .
So when I put my Sandisk back , A (virtual) storage card was already in the PocketPC . So my Sandisk has been renamed Card 2 .
I removed the Sandisk , deleted the Storage card (empty) with the explorer , and reinserted my Sandisk again .
Everything is OK .
In fact , nothing disappeared .
It happened to me 3 times in 3 days. The entire contents disappeared with no reason. I have never experienced this issue, but it is getting me out of my nerves.
My SD card is a Sandisk 8 GB SDHC.
I have scanned the card using a card reader and it seems that all the files are there, but they're unlinked. The space is used, but the files are not accesible, so when I go to Storage Card, I find it empty.
It's TOTALLY annoying. Please, give your experience if you have this problem.
Have you lost all your MicroSD card contents and you don't know why?
My Sandisk 8gb card came with a USB2 card reader that is great speed-wise; but twice I lost all the data when using it. I didn't realize it might be related at the time, but then I misplaced the reader and switched to using the adapter kind -- the SD sized thing that you slip the microSD card into (my laptop has a SD card slot). It's been a few months now, and with constant switching of the card between my Touch, Touch Cruise and laptop, I've not lost the data since.
While I can't say for sure it's related, it hasn't happened since I stopped using the USB adapter that shipped with the card.
I think it's not related to the use of the adapter since the first time I lost my files I was on a route using Tomtom 7. In my way back, I had to go without the navigator :S No maps, and the videos and pictures that I took, totally lost.
Fortunately I have an application that is pure gold to recover every disaster that could happen (recovers partitions even after formatting the disk, and files with their original names). It's not pleasant for me to use this application ("[email protected] Partition Recovery Enterprise"), but this is becoming too usual...
By the way I'm using udK's WM6.1 ROM R6, even though I don't think it's related to it.
My MicroSD is formatted in FAT32 with 32KB clusters.
Any ideas about how to fix this problem?
The last time I lost the contents I was about to sync music with WMP (with the USB connected).
Good luck... I'm using the ROM that shipped with the device. Guess the only way to know if it's related to a cooked-ROM is to re-install the official ROM and see how things go.
I'm using HTC original ROM and 8Gb Sandisk card with no problem for more than 3 months. My fingers are crossed
I'm using HTC original ROM and 8Gb Sandisk card with some issues (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407046&highlight=bodisson), but no files are missing.
Sometimes I get extra file names with really weird characters. Usually, if I reinsert the card, these go away and I can access normally the card.
(SanDisk 4GB SDHC)
George
6ITdtvFQqY said:
Sometimes I get extra file names with really weird characters. Usually, if I reinsert the card, these go away and I can access normally the card.
(SanDisk 4GB SDHC)
George
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same here...
SuperJMN said:
It happened to me 3 times in 3 days. The entire contents disappeared with no reason. I have never experienced this issue, but it is getting me out of my nerves.
My SD card is a Sandisk 8 GB SDHC.
I have scanned the card using a card reader and it seems that all the files are there, but they're unlinked. The space is used, but the files are not accesible, so when I go to Storage Card, I find it empty.
It's TOTALLY annoying. Please, give your experience if you have this problem.
Have you lost all your MicroSD card contents and you don't know why?
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that happened to me twice..my problem was solved by installing an sd enhancement cab file. almost everything appeared back in my sd.
i have an HTC touch cruise. here is a link for the cab file..try it if you want, maybe you ll solve your problem
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kr98xz
did you use something like sktools for change pathes of temp/cookes files of I.E or so on?
If yes it could following happend:
You change the destination path for some application like InternetExplorers Temp and Cookies pathes to point to Storage Card.
After this you removed the card on any time.
The device cannot find the path to the Storage Card and creates a folder "Storage Card" on the root of the internal device memory.
If you insert a card again, it show you onliy the content of the new folder.
Regards
Daydoo
Dudes,
I'm bought a sandisk 8gb micro SDHC about a month ago.
Filled it almost to the brim with music and podcasts.
I regularly uses great programs like S2P and BeyondPod for music and podcasts to listen with my Bluetooth A2DP headset.
Had no problem until recently where the entire card is not readable anymore
Symptoms:
1) the phone started not to recognise the SDHC, where it could not detect any inserted card
2) the failures on the SDHC gave me corrupted files. I was able to repaired these by using the Windows XP chkdsk and fix error command
3) by the 3rd time i did this, the card was not readable at all
Suspects:
1) every time polaris hang, i would press the reset button. I suspect tat this would corrupt some files (possibly even the entire SDHC ??)
2) every time polaris hang, i think the phone was running more than 1 app at the same time. In my case, it was probably S2U2 and S2P or BeyondPod, together with BT A2DP.
Don't think it was caused by these great apps, but rather the way Polaris or WindowsPPC handles multi tasking
Will be returning the 8gb SDHC soon for a replacement.
Any ideas on how to prevent this from happening again ?
(other than not running multiple apps at the same time)
Thx
BTW, i'm running windows 6.0, the original HTC polaris rom
Also have a Scandisk 8gb card in my Polaris...
Problems im suffering is that now and then the storage card looses connection.... I can not see it on my mobile and also its not showing up using ActiveSync.
It happens really often and mostly when im using software that depends on it like IGO. The application crashes because it can not access the files needed.
Ive read somewhere that this only happens with scandisk cards so im considering buying a kingston card.. can anyone verify this??
Well the best thing is to make sure, you safely remove your hardware before removing the sd card from the pc or otherwise change the device settings of the memory card to "optimize for quick removal" in the device manager
I recently switched from a non-sdhc card (1 GB) to a SDHC 4GB kingston.
weirdest of all things is that i lose certain applications, but not all!
For instance i have TomTOm installed. Stopped functioning and lost the icon. But SK Tools still works. :S
I'm not very happy with this, since i use my phone ALOT with TomTom and all the other apps i installed on it. Especially at work.
Gonna try the artemis sd fix... Hope it works.
Could it be that you'd made a rom-upgrade with the sd-card in the phone? I had the same problem - lost files on sd-card - with the original 1GB-Card and a new 4-GB-SDHC. I think (and hope) that leaving the card while upgrading has reasoned this issue. After reformating the card in the pda the problem has gone for me . Thank you for your answers...
Steffen
steffa77 said:
Could it be that you'd made a rom-upgrade with the sd-card in the phone? I had the same problem - lost files on sd-card - with the original 1GB-Card and a new 4-GB-SDHC. I think (and hope) that leaving the card while upgrading has reasoned this issue. After reformating the card in the pda the problem has gone for me . Thank you for your answers...
Steffen
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Yes, i actually did leave the card while upgrading. But i didn't lose any data until a few days AFTER the upgrade. And i frequently soft-reset the device.
I solved my problem (i think) by deleting 'program files' on the storage card and making a new 'program files' folder. It works for a few day now. (keeps fingers crossed)
I did a ROM upgrade (udK Diamond R7) without the microSDHC card, and yesterday night I lost all my files for the nth time.
The space remains used. I was listening to a podcast (that was stored into the card), and suddenly, when I ran the File Explorer to do something, all the files were missing. The podcast played correctly, but when I tried to re-open it, the file could not be found.
I'm feed up with this problem. It is like having no card at all...
Please, we need somebody to fix it. Is it happening to other brands of only Sandisk?
Thanks.
I simply turned my phone off. Then back on again and storage card had turned into storage card 2. Everything I had on the card was lost. So I carried on using the card and now its storage card 3 and the data from when it was called card 2 is now lost.
copilot often asks me to insert map data.
Ive found that if I remove the card and close all programs before I turn the phone off I dont lose data.
O2 told me to send it in for replacement. That was months ago. Not had chance yet. Might be too late!?
udk's r7 must be faulty, i lost my destinator files 2 times and dawg i didnt took a backup for quite some time. no favorites for me now :<
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udk's r7 must be faulty, i lost my destinator files 2 times and dawg i didnt took a backup for quite some time. no favorites for me now :<
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Do you mean that the problem might be the cooked ROM? Maybe we can isolate the problem with this approach.
I have a very wierd problem with my storage card.
The last I recall. I was deleting a picture from the HTC album.
The next thing was all data in the storage card is missing.
The folders were all missing except for the DCIM folder.
On checking the disc space. It seems the files were all still there.
I even unhide all files however still not visible.
Anyone any idea wat to do?
Could it be the storage card is damage? Anyway to retrieve my files?
As far as I know, there is some programs, which restore files on on storage card. I had data lost about 3 months ago. To the best of my memory, I used Pocket Mechanic. Also you may try connect your device as USB-flash and try to restore data using programs for recover files from flash drives.
Good luck =)
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As far as I know, there is some programs, which restore files on on storage card. I had data lost about 3 months ago. To the best of my memory, I used Pocket Mechanic. Also you may try connect your device as USB-flash and try to restore data using programs for recover files from flash drives.
Good luck =)
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Thanks you.
hi,
i have my cruise for 1 year now, and i also had encountered storage card data loss 2 times this month. with 2 different SDHC cards, 4Go and 8Go.
never happened before, i can't understand why now. (ROM M-AMINE).
a friend of mine who's got his cruise with genuine rom from htc had the same probleme last month.
when this happens, the only folder remaining in the card is "inbox.000xx" that's all. the thing is some hidden data still using space when you check on a laptop.
i could recover most of the pictures with a dedicated software.
i can't trust this phone anymore, so i will change soon.
cheers.
data loss and phone crashes due to SPB software
I've had similar problems with folders disappearing randomly and file corruption on the SD card. I'm guessing that the file system on the SD card gets corrupted due to the crashes.
I've nailed down the issue to Spb Wireless Monitor, since uninstalling this software my phone is a lot more stable and no data loss from the sdhc memory card. May want to give this a try.
This question has been asked a few dozen times, and the answer keeps coming back to the HTC encryption and how bad it is. TURN IT OFF it can not be trusted and it is on by default. Its not even worth explaining why it is so bad and the causes behind it.. just disabled it and forgetaboutit!
Hi,newbie question guys,how do i turn off the htc encription?
Start->settings->encryption
Obviously, my phone had never this encryption on...
If you have explaination other than the dozen you're talking about, i'm really interrested.
ciao
Thx silverpal
I'm having the same problem. Just turned off and will see. I hope that's it. Already bought new microSD...., nevermind.
I turn off encription and the problem continued, actually figured out that can't be turned off...
Hello everyone,
i own a Raphael since January and in this time it allready killed 2 SD-Cards.
The first one about 4 months ago.
Suddenly in the middle of usage the Raphael froze and i could not get it started again. even after a hardreset it was stuck in the bootscreen.
after a lot of trying and finally removing the sd card it bootet again without a problem.
the card was not readable anymore in any of my devices or windows boxes.
i thougth myself. well can happen even when a card is only half a year old got a new 8GB card and forgot about the incident.
yesterday while listening to some podcast suddenly the sound died. taking out the phone i found out it did not reacted to any power button presses or anything the screen stayed black.
after a softreset the phone worked again but took about 5 minutes to get in a usable state and the programms installed on the sd card where not aviable anymore.
taking a closer look i found that the card was not displayed in file explorer anymore.
gave it a try with my mp3 player. same result no card was found.
today in the morning i gave it a try on the pc with an sd-adabter. but also no result, wondows does not even recocnizes any device being plugged in. tryed a few data recover tools but non of them found the card.
someone has similiar experiances or any tips how i could get my data back from the card?
i guess the phone has to be send back for maintainance, but i doubt that they will find anything, if they accept it at all.
I have changed 4 sd cards because of similar problems. But the problem is most likely because of the fragility of high capacity microSDs, I wouldn't blame Raphael. Try other manufacturers (and try to find the ones that are not just rebranded)
I've had many issues with sd card corruption, but have solved some of the issues. Here's my advice (fwiw):
1. Get a card scanner, and regularly scan your catd. I do it everyday (takes 5 min). I use Wizcode Scandisk. It fixes errors and dumps out files that can be opened in notepad. It's worth looking at them, as it helped me find the multiple sources of corruption that I had.
2. Don't put your PIE cache on the card.
3. Change all 'save' paths (esp. the camera) to main memory.
4. Store any programs you use a lot on main memory.
5. Do NOT have any programs that run constantly on the sd card.
6. Do NOT put Fingerkeyboard on the sd card (major problem for me).
Basically, my advice is to use sd cards for storage. The Raphael has a lot of memory-use it for programs. I haven't had to format my card in about 4 months. I was doing it every couple of weeks for a while.
well basically i was using my sd card as a storage place for movies and podcast + podcastplayer prog.
and was using the player more or less the whole day.
i used the same card (and the other one before) also in my mp3 player when the raphael or the bt headset run out of power and there is no power outlet aviable to recharge. and twice the card failed in the rapahel.
when i got a new card, i also found that the card is working 100% on pc and mp3 player, but the raphael still can not see any sd card.
i really blame the phone and also assume that it now has a defective reader.
have to give it back to repairs as soon i have flashed the original firmware and make my way back to the store
You should scan the disk to find out the error sources. It may be something simple that causing them. Also, if your phone freezes when listening to music, you may want to either wait it out, or remove the card before soft resetting. You should do some searches on card corruption. There are lots of threads here that can be helpful.
many Sdcard and usbStick manufacturers got lowlevel format tools you can download and get cards not otherwise working in cardreaders on pc back to life
would love to get those cards working again. but i also would love to get the data back that was on them.
but the problem is the cards do not even appear on the pc, or any other device i have that can read/write them (usb card reader, digi cam, mp3 player)
its just as if nothing is ever inserted in the reader.
the low level format tools don't rely on windows driver model to detect cards
Flash Format (cnetx) has always been able to re-format my card, even when my pc couldn't recognize it and neither could my fuze. It has a free trial that works fine.
I haven't experienced any of these issues myself. But I'm sure I will now that I said that....
i gave that flash format a try, but it even failed to install. was one of those weird .exe installers. on the pc side it told me install was sucessfull, but on the ppc side was just a promt "installation failed".
a cab install would be nice, but without a working cardreader in the phone i guess would also not be of much help. i guess cuz of that that prog will not help me much. the reader in the phone is broken. cant read any cards, even brand new unused ones that are fine everywhere else just dont show up on the phone.
as for other "low level format tools" my search was quite unsecessful. i was looking at the sandisk and the transcend page (the suppliers of my 3 cards) but could not find anything.
google just found more request for this kind of program but not really somewhere where i could get it.
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i gave that flash format a try, but it even failed to install. was one of those weird .exe installers. on the pc side it told me install was sucessfull, but on the ppc side was just a promt "installation failed".
a cab install would be nice, but without a working cardreader in the phone i guess would also not be of much help. i guess cuz of that that prog will not help me much. the reader in the phone is broken. cant read any cards, even brand new unused ones that are fine everywhere else just dont show up on the phone.
as for other "low level format tools" my search was quite unsecessful. i was looking at the sandisk and the transcend page (the suppliers of my 3 cards) but could not find anything.
google just found more request for this kind of program but not really somewhere where i could get it.
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Check C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\CNETX-you'll find the cab in there. There will be several-you want the PPC-Arm one. It should install fine.
Card Freeze
Yeah I had the same thing happen. Raphael would not boot unless I removed the card and as soon as I placed the card back into the sd slot it would lock up. Unlike you I was able to get on of my PCs (either the XP Pro or the Vista Pro) to recognize it but all I could do was format it.
OK I like the idea of moving all the data to the main however I'm an old Windows CE guy (yeah I had a Jornado) and the memory used to be shared between program and storage. The device would allocate from the other when more was needed. If I place all the stuff I want into the Raphael main memory won't that lower the amount of RAM I have for running programs or vice versa? I really don't know if the memory is fluid since all I get when I look into the memory is one listing total storage and one total program, there is no slider bar like there used to be in windows ce.
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Yeah I had the same thing happen. Raphael would not boot unless I removed the card and as soon as I placed the card back into the sd slot it would lock up. Unlike you I was able to get on of my PCs (either the XP Pro or the Vista Pro) to recognize it but all I could do was format it.
OK I like the idea of moving all the data to the main however I'm an old Windows CE guy (yeah I had a Jornado) and the memory used to be shared between program and storage. The device would allocate from the other when more was needed. If I place all the stuff I want into the Raphael main memory won't that lower the amount of RAM I have for running programs or vice versa? I really don't know if the memory is fluid since all I get when I look into the memory is one listing total storage and one total program, there is no slider bar like there used to be in windows ce.
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The storage memory on the device is flash, not ram, so you don't lose program memory changing the save paths to main memory (if that's what you meant by moving data to main memory).
I never had any issues with my storage cards (sd and cf) on my 2003 device. I don't think it was the device, but rather the cards. The big, 16 gb cards just seem to be less hardy than a 1-2 gb card. I had all my apps on the storage card (including stuff like magic button), and never had a problem. But, jeez, the 16 g microsd is sensitive as hell. It gets minor bits of corruption at least once a week. I scan it everyday to avoid it crashing, which has helped, because I've gone 4 months without formatting it. One thing that I've found screws it up royally is doing a lot of file/directory operations over active sync on a pc. I don't know why, but cutting and pasting files from one folder to another in the sd card frequently results in lost clusters. Renaming folders is also a bad idea.
OK Flash
Well I guess I didn't explain it correctly. According to HTC the RAM is 288MB with a ROM of 512MB. So I'm really confused since according to the start>settings>system>memory the total for my storage and my program = 549MB which is of course more than 288 and 512. So when I load applications into my device and get a choice of main or storage card when it was a large file (some apps I use were 14 megs or more) I would choose the storage card.
My old experience with Windows CE was whatever memory was on the device was shared with both the program and storage, so I would put as much as possible on my storage card. However in windows 6.1 or higher it lists two separate columns for Program and Storage with: Total, In Use, and Free. So when I install apps I presumed they went into the storage area. Am I mistaken? I figured Program on the device meant how much is currently in use. Kinda like opening multiple windows on a PC. I notice it's low when at once I have 4 applications open on my windows mobile device so that's what I thought Program memory was.
Therefore does installing to the Main, when given a choice during program installation. where does it get installed ROM, RAM? Why is my total memory higher than RAM or the ROM
Any insight would help me decide the best location for my program installation to not corrupt the data, or have the flash card screw me up either.
288 MB is the total amount of system ram. A large amount is not user-accessible, it's used by the kernel/OS/Page-pool, so you don't see it reported. It's still there, though. The rom memory is 512 MB, but the actual memory in rom is subtracted by the storage memory so you see the amount of user-available memory. With 2003 devices, if the battery ran down, you lost all of your data, because the storage memory was in RAM (except perhaps for a little flash disk space). But with a fuze, you can pull the battery out, and not lose your data.
Totally confused
OK your right about the 2003 devices which is why I placed most of my stuff on a storage card. However why is my total reported memory 549MB more than the 512 ROM? Also when I install stuff to the device where does it get stored, the 512 ROM? Are you saying that the 200mb of Program being shown is 288 RAM minus the 88 being used to run the OS?
So are you saying its safe to install all my apps onto the device and I won't lose anything if the battery runs out?
Yeah, I've been saying that for about 3 weeks, lol! They got rid of the volatile storage memory with winmo 5; we're onto 6.5 now, and it's a thing of the distant past. I you don't believe me, pull out your battery (there's no backup battery on the device) and see if it causes a hard reset.
This is not an uncommon problem with digital cameras, as well. It's complicated, but the bottom line is this: whenever you buy an SD/micro SDHC/etc. card, you should do a full format of it on your COMPUTER, then put it in your device.