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Wiki redesign

hey guys,
I'm a regular on the HTC tytn part of this board and have been quite active in updating the wiki and making it functional.
I thought i'd wonder over to this board and took a look at the wiki and have to admit, was sort of shocked. it's one enormous page that's not very intuitive!
I'm going to shift around some stuff to make the wiki for your device easier to browse and navigate, would love for you guys to help out with this venture!
I've started with this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=wizard_WM_6
WM6 definitely deserves a page of its own, complete with download links, links to threads etc. it does not deserve to be in the middle of some enormous page where most people can't even see it! it's linked back to the main wiki page under the contents page, which is easier to follow.
suggestions welcome, and please help in overhauling the poor state of the wizard's wiki!!
cheers

I don't know about others here in this forum, but I think you're doing us all a huge favor. Good start on the Wizard WM6 material so far.

Hi!
Ofcourse great job. I've learn from this site
I need to suggest to put some information about Not Big Deal 5.1.
I think, this rom is realy good. Realy. Not many ppl use it, but almost all of my friends that tried this rom, confirmed, that it's very ok.

You should probably rename the page to reflect the device it is for. The current name implicates it is a general WM6 page - which is not in fact.

Chatty said:
You should probably rename the page to reflect the device it is for. The current name implicates it is a general WM6 page - which is not in fact.
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awesome suggestion, silly of me. i've renamed the page to wizard_wm_6

I've updated the Wiki (Thanks for setting this up) with information and download links to my Crossbow Released rom.
Also I would like to make an observation... I disagree with the description of The Core, in that it says this is the best rom for Newbies (or thats how I read it)... Since this is a Clean / "core" rom, I don't know that I would call this a good general starting rom for someone new. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying The Core 2.0 isn't good, I'm just saying the claim that its the best rom for newbies is maybe misleading as many newbies want more than just a base rom. XPlore 1.1 (IMO) is actually a better rom for someone just starting out as it comes with some apps in it. Then Wizard Mobile 6 Business Edition is very nice with the set of apps in it too... Its just all of the roms have strengths and weaknesses, so to me calling a single rom the best for Newbies may be misleading. Let them choose what fits for them (or setup some type of Matrix to compare the roms).
BTW: This isn't criticism of this new WiKi page at all? I just wanting to provide feedback so this can become a valuable resource for the Wizard community (and I really appreciate you starting this project for us. Now I need to get back to working on the WM6 Cooking wiki pages I was setting up)

mfrazzz - good point. there should be no "favouring" of roms, it should be up to the end user to decide.
I've removed the whole best rom bit. let the person choose themselves

How would you guys like a Bugtracker?

I'm currently working on a Bugtracker for the xda-developers (my own project - wasn't asked by anybody)
The idea behind it is to allow:
The Developers to see what bugs are outstanding
The user to submit their problems
The curious to see which ROM has less bugs
The n00bs to do research before asking questions (and have more places to spam)
I'm not planning to replace the forums, I just want to make an extra tool that can be used along side the forums - but is neater for bug reporting
Feel free to post your thoughts on if you like it (and so what should be included) or if you don't like it (and so what should replace it, if anything)
Thanks!

Hey, that's very nice.
But.. Are we talking about a new website? or just a new thread?

DaVince said:
Hey, that's very nice.
But.. Are we talking about a new website? or just a new thread?
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Entirely new website.
It will be hosted on my http://www.vidmes.com webserver

i voted approving the bugtracker but i like the idea of all the information about universal development being centralized in one only location.
so, i think it would be interesting to keep it in this forum.

It's ok, we'll just have a sticky thread that has a link to TehPenguin's site.
I vote you go for it TehPenguin.

DaVince said:
It's ok, we'll just have a sticky thread that has a link to TehPenguin's site.
I vote you go for it TehPenguin.
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Well, I've done some tentative work on it - and its looking good (if a little bare - I'm a software developer, not a web designer )
I'm a little busy this week, so its going to be about 2 weeks before I announce the link for the Beta
In the mean time, I'd like suggestions as to what people want in it
(Also, I notice one negative vote - I'd like to see their argument....)
Thanks!

Great Idea
I think mandatory information should be
1) Device Vendor...ie Imate, XDA etc
2) Radio stack in use
3) OS Rom in use
4) Third party software installed ( I know this list can be big, I myself have well over 100 apps as std) but is important for diagnosing bugs. Perhaps we could get an AppMgr listing from each system, not too hard to obtain.
You could also go overboard a little and have a PDA page, browseable from our Uni's so nothing graphics intensive or fancy. A simple login dialogue ( Can we port XDA-Dev user accounts?) once the user has logged in, they fill in a basic form with the bug description, click on submit and we could pull the information in points 1 to 4 above off of the device with a script.
Just my 50pence worth.
Great idea m8, hope it gets somewhere.............let me know if I can help with anything.
Cheers,
Beast

yes! would be really helpful for cooks

beast0898 said:
I think mandatory information should be
1) Device Vendor...ie Imate, XDA etc
2) Radio stack in use
3) OS Rom in use
4) Third party software installed ( I know this list can be big, I myself have well over 100 apps as std) but is important for diagnosing bugs. Perhaps we could get an AppMgr listing from each system, not too hard to obtain.
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What I was planning to do with this is to have them describe a "Bug" in very generic terms as the Bug's description. Then they are required to add a comment (which other people may add) - this comment would have a "template" which would have things such as vendor, radio (I didn't actually think of this one), etc...
beast0898 said:
You could also go overboard a little and have a PDA page, browseable from our Uni's so nothing graphics intensive or fancy. A simple login dialogue ( Can we port XDA-Dev user accounts?) once the user has logged in, they fill in a basic form with the bug description, click on submit and we could pull the information in points 1 to 4 above off of the device with a script.
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Some good ideas but....
I can't actually get info from the xda-developer's forums database - this may be a security risk on their behalf and would require far to much messing around to organise (as much as I would like to do it)
You will be able to view the page on your PDA's - its _very_ basic and I'll try to keep it xHTML complaint and do fanciness with CSS (though at the moment it does use some table hax)
Pulling info out of the PDA is virtually impossible (unless I build an app for the PDA's.... maybe later ) since the pda only tells me what browser version it is using
Either way - these are the things I like to see - Ideas!!!!
Keep them coming!

DaVince said:
It's ok, we'll just have a sticky thread that has a link to TehPenguin's site.
I vote you go for it TehPenguin.
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I totally agree with DaVince, having a bug tracking website would be cool and having a link directly to the site via xda-developers is a good idea. Keeping everything centralised and available for use by everyone who uses xda-developers.
You have my vote! Would be a great tool...
gsmknight

TehPenguin said:
What I was planning to do with this is to have them describe a "Bug" in very generic terms as the Bug's description. Then they are required to add a comment (which other people may add) - this comment would have a "template" which would have things such as vendor, radio (I didn't actually think of this one), etc...
Some good ideas but....
I can't actually get info from the xda-developer's forums database - this may be a security risk on their behalf and would require far to much messing around to organise (as much as I would like to do it)
You will be able to view the page on your PDA's - its _very_ basic and I'll try to keep it xHTML complaint and do fanciness with CSS (though at the moment it does use some table hax)
Pulling info out of the PDA is virtually impossible (unless I build an app for the PDA's.... maybe later ) since the pda only tells me what browser version it is using
Either way - these are the things I like to see - Ideas!!!!
Keep them coming!
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Hi TehPenguin,
Surely we can run a JScript or Vbs through the PPC Browser to get the required data from the Reg, only a couple of RegReads!
Just another thought............... I prefer accurate information, the reg is less likely to make mistakes than a user!! (No offence intended to anyone)
L8r,
Beast

Bugtracker
Hi,
Would be great to have this.
Looking forward
Leo

Why not use one of the many bugtrackers already out there? I prefer Flyspray (http://www.flyspray.org/) since it's as mighty as Mantis, but more Web 2.0 ... and you should be able to browse it on your PPC, although I don't think anybody really wants this ...
Cheers,
-mARKUS
P.S.: As for getting registry stuff through the PPC ... I doubt you can read out the registry by a JavaScript running on the page itself. Also there are many geeks out there who use Resco so they could easily export a .reg-file and attach it to the report.

mbirth said:
Why not use one of the many bugtrackers already out there? I prefer Flyspray (http://www.flyspray.org/) since it's as mighty as Mantis, but more Web 2.0 ... and you should be able to browse it on your PPC, although I don't think anybody really wants this ...
Cheers,
-mARKUS
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I've had a look at at a number of bug reporting systems - the problem with them is that I'd have to end up customising it quite a bit anyway. For instance, they are typically designed for one program, possibly with options to support different parts\plug-ins for these programs. My design involves having multiple "Devices" each with multiple "ROMs", which may be deprecated, and each of these ROMs have multiple bugs - thats a couple more levels of complexity than the average bug tracker can handle.
Although they are more "Web 2.0" the Javasript\other fanciness would make it difficult to view on a PDA. Personally I prefer the old style Web 1.0 and a PHP back end
The other advantage of me making it is that you guys can have, almost, anything you want - and it should be done as soon as I have time, seeing as I know the code intimately.
And the point I really like - I love coding
mbirth said:
P.S.: As for getting registry stuff through the PPC ... I doubt you can read out the registry by a JavaScript running on the page itself. Also there are many geeks out there who use Resco so they could easily export a .reg-file and attach it to the report.
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Exporting a reg file is the only possibility. Due to "security" problems, no script can actually see the registry of the device (or your PC for that matter), except what is in the "User Agent" key.
I'll put it on the "TODO" list to make a .NET program that automatically dumps your settings and creates a bug report
Given time, this can become quite beautiful. And time is now something that I will have - since I'm on holidays for the next few weeks!! (Yay for no more exams!!)

The alpha version is almost finished
I'll put a link up onto WM-Gurus for the final testing stage of the Alpha and see how it goes
Once the Alpha is complete (ie not too buggy) I'll put the link for the Beta here
Enjoy!

this is really a great idea.
i hope all goes well...
thanks to all!

Okay,
ALPHA VERSION IS NOW AVAILABLE!!!!
You can see it by going to: http://xdabugs.vidmes.com
Feel free to register or use the following users:
Username "test" password "testing" (Access level - registered user)
Username "dev" password "dev" (Access level - developer)
Username "admin" password "password" (Access level - administrator)
PLEASE NOTE: At the end of the Alpha stage, ALL DATA WILL BE CLEARED FROM THE DATABASE!
What I need people to do:
Look for bugs
Write the Help\FAQ sections
Ask me questions so I can write the Help\FAQ sections
See what else is needed
Enjoy!!

Looking for schedule-application that will open/close my phone

Hi!
I'm looking for an application that will close my phone based on a daily schedule. For instance I want my phone to be off 01:00AM to 08:30AM. Is there any such application?

Have you tried PhoneWeaver ?
It has lots of usefull functions including profiles and schedules like the one you mentioned.
Of course it is commercial.

Thanks. This is what I'm looking for! ...do you think that I could "find" it somewhere around?

What do you mean by "find" ?

I mean not to buy

papadi said:
I mean not to buy
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This is not the right forum for such a questions.

Ok, I know there are other sites with tones of illegal copies of software. But it's not like this site is completely legal. There is also lot's of "stuff" here also, especially in ftp site.
Anyway, let's not make it a deal.

By the way, another software that does the same thing and I believe in a much better way is "Profiles for Windows Mobile". This is my choice finally.

papadi said:
Ok, I know there are other sites with tones of illegal copies of software. But it's not like this site is completely legal. There is also lot's of "stuff" here also, especially in ftp site.
Anyway, let's not make it a deal.
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I thought the same way while starting to visit xda-developers.
There are several posts on this matter ... I don't want to copy/paste them here.
Just read

SQL CE 3.5

I realy have no clue why the chiefs cook SQL server in their rom's
Or are we all DBA's???

...Yes...?

There are some apps that require it to function properly, and it's also installed by default with the shipped ROMs provided by HTC and various phone Operators.
If you don't like it, speak to the chef, or read my sig for how to cook your own.

_Alex_ said:
There are some apps that require it to function properly, and it's also installed by default with the shipped ROMs provided by HTC and various phone Operators.
If you don't like it, speak to the chef, or read my sig for how to cook your own.
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Alex, just loaded your v5lite, love it ! So happy I sent a donation....
This was actually my 1 burning question (everything else is working perfectly), why this app... can you give 1 or 2 examples of what apps depend on it ?

I can't think of any specific examples of the top of my head, but think collection apps with large databases of mp3s, records, dvds, comics or whatever... Much easier to use a SQL query than to write your own search...
BTW, happy to hear you're enjoying my ROMs, thanks so much for the donation!

_Alex_ said:
I can't think of any specific examples of the top of my head, but think collection apps with large databases of mp3s, records, dvds, comics or whatever... Much easier to use a SQL query than to write your own search...
BTW, happy to hear you're enjoying my ROMs, thanks so much for the donation!
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Ahhh ! maybe windows media player and the like... makes sense...

basic4android development tool

Hi all,
I searched here on Android forum but I did'nt find any reference to this very nice development tool:
http://www.basic4ppc.com/
does someone of you know it? what do you think about it?
I find it very interesting, special for people (like me) that has some programming skill but not a specific java knowledge... it costs a reasonable price (starting from 39$) and it seems really powerfull, with a very original integrated designer tool... I'm thinking to buy it... I would like to have your dev's impressions and evaluations...

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I am using it and I think it is an excellent development tool.
Takes a lot lesser time than Java and if you are familiar with VB or any other Basic, then you will be up to speed in no time.
Besides they have very good support.

Any more reviews? I'm very interested in this application.

love it
personally i love it. the fact that its fast (and uses basic ) . its just a great program. they also added error support for your internal coding mistakes....so they are really moving forward...if your a student you can get a %50 discount on the enterprise edition . ( i did )

i had the same issue
thank you guys for sharing

I am also interested
I am just learning to make apps, I literally have no experience yet. Would Basic4android be good for the type of app I'm trying to make?
I am needing to make a fairly simple, mostly text-based app, kind of like a user manual/instruction guide. Key features I am needing for this app would be:
*a "find" like CTRL+F to find words or phrases
*an index to jump to specific sections
*rip/copy protection so people can't steal the text and put it on a different device or computer
*smooth scrolling and fit-to-screen text
I know nothing about coding but I am very willing to learn! if this program makes it more simple, please let me know!

darkangel314 said:
I am just learning to make apps, I literally have no experience yet. Would Basic4android be good for the type of app I'm trying to make?
I am needing to make a fairly simple, mostly text-based app, kind of like a user manual/instruction guide. Key features I am needing for this app would be:
*a "find" like CTRL+F to find words or phrases
*an index to jump to specific sections
*rip/copy protection so people can't steal the text and put it on a different device or computer
*smooth scrolling and fit-to-screen text
I know nothing about coding but I am very willing to learn! if this program makes it more simple, please let me know!
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Basic for android could and would work. It is based off of visual basic. Which is a windows based code format...
I would recommend learning JAVA. Basic for Android is mostly for people who already Know visual basic....such as myself...
Learn Java. There are MANY xda tutorials on it.
Sent from my LG-E970 using Tapatalk 2

furius said:
Hi all,
I searched here on Android forum but I did'nt find any reference to this very nice development tool:
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does someone of you know it? what do you think about it?
I find it very interesting, special for people (like me) that has some programming skill but not a specific java knowledge... it costs a reasonable price (starting from 39$) and it seems really powerfull, with a very original integrated designer tool... I'm thinking to buy it... I would like to have your dev's impressions and evaluations...
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Yes, B4A and B4i are both awesome, easy to learn and very powerful, best on the market, no exceptions.