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Hi Guys,
I have searched high and low for the answer to this one, so I thought I'd give up and ask you guys.
What I need is an Emulator for PPC that I can use on my computer to test downloaded programs before I instal them to my XDA.
The problems are:
Active sync appears to only work with visual .net development suit, which I dont have the money to buy.
Embeded visual C does run a nice emulator, but it wont connect to the active sync and thuse I cant install programmes. There did seem to be a solution in useing the folder option in the above programe to access a Virtual SD card on the computer (shared folder on my drive) but how do I access the programmes?
I would prefer to try these programmes out in a sand pit if I could.
But there doesnt seem to be away.
Please dont flame me if I have missed an earlier thread or some google search... I am new.. I am not worthy... I have no flame retardent underware...
Edy
I don't have an answer for you, (I also would like to do this also!), but I don't believe you will be able to get the eMbedded Emulator to run 'real' apps because these apps are compiled for a CPU target, (usually ARM) and the emulator only runs 8086 compiles.
The emulator is more to test your own source code and it compiles for 8086, and when you are ready, you compile your source for ARM, MIPS, to distribute.
If anyone knows of a Windows based emulator that runs ARM compiled programs, I would LOVE to know about it.
I seem to remember there was a Palm version where you could simply drag and drop programmes into it and test them. Would be nice if that were so for the PPC.
Still noone said life had to be perfect ;-)
Edy
Ya, I came from the Palm world, and they did have an emulator that would allow you to run Palm apps. It wasn’t the great emulation, but it usually was good enough to give you an idea if you even wanted to bother installing it on your ‘real’ device.
Well, maybe there is one for PPC and we just don’t know about it… Anyone???
There is no such an emulator and making it is extremely difficult. You'll have to completely emulate whole CPU, some hardware and write your own OS just for this "virtual" PocketPC. Noone has done this.
So the long and the short of this is I need visual .net to be able to run the MS emu... Any here doing that? If so can you tell me if it is possible to install other programs for testing, or will the emu only work with applications you are writing yourself?
There is no such an emulator and making it is extremely difficult. You'll have to completely emulate whole CPU, some hardware and write your own OS just for this "virtual" PocketPC. Noone has
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no it's that that difficult at all sure it takes some time to do
if you look around for emulators many many platforms come as emulated on pc systems like ps2 all the way back to mame
i have a few friends who just made a whole emulation of the arm cpu on the pc not a pocketpc or windows ce emulator but just pure arm
Rudegar said:
i have a few friends who just made a whole emulation of the arm cpu on the pc not a pocketpc or windows ce emulator but just pure arm
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Please, can you provide us with a link? I was very interested in such an emulation to test Xanadux stuff without being afraid to render the Himalaya into a brick
Matthias
they are making it because they are embedded software developers
and they are making a project where they are programming to the arm cpu i dont know if they would part with the code but mind you it's no
pocketpc emulator and i doubt it would even support a graphic display apart from text since they dont need it for the project
i'm sure there must be some emulators out there
i mean the stuff in embedded visual c++ and visual studio 2003 and 2005
even if it's not a true emulator then it comes kinda close
embedded visual c++ does have an emulator, but you cant sync it with active sync and therefore you can only test programs that you are developing yourself. There was a posted solution for this involving a null modem cable and two com ports. But my computer only has one com port :-(
Looks like you need to buy Visual Studio .net to get a fully working emulator that can sync with active x and thus test programs....
Hi there,
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about this, but I don't think even getting the .NET framework working with Microsofts PPC 2003 emulator will work as a true emulator for the actual device.
I have the emulators for PPC and SmartPhones installed since we are developing applications for mobile (but mostly Java based) phones. So far with our initial test developments, you can only run your own developed applications or applications that are currently being developed and compiled for the emulators. Final compiled applications (for ARM/MIPS) are different from the compiled versions for the emulators and won't work with it. Being like this, the compiled version for the ARM processors will not work with the PPC emulator.
Well, that is just my comment...
Cheers,
Hey, I haven't tried it yet, but this sure sounds like what we have wanted...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/mobility/windowsmobile/downloads/emulatorpreview/default.aspx
Hey, I just tired it, (installing an ARM app) and it works. Cool!
How do I download that program. or can somebody upload please.
How do I download that program. or can somebody upload please
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* Visit http://beta.microsoft.com,
* Login using your Passport account, or create one if you don't have one.
* Use Guest ID MSDEVICE to access the Community Preview website
You'll have to create a passport but that shouldn't be a real problem? I tried to upload it to the FTP using upload:upload but it won't let me send the file?
I have to say that this tool / App is one of the best you can find on the Web. I can now emulate the Pocket PC on my PC to trial games / apps first without messing up my XDA2i.
Thanks for the link guys well done!!
Lee
Upload it plz!
can u upload it somewhere? i am unable to download from the MS site!!!
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studdocs said:
can u upload it somewhere? i am unable to download from the MS site!!!
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I assume you installed the Microsoft ActiveX component called "Microsoft File Transfer Manager" right?
It's the requestor that appears just before the download begins... Then press "transfer" to begin the transfer ..
I hope it works for you...
Rayan
It would be helpful if somebody could upload this program, I am having no success after many attempts to download.
Here you go: ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/DeviceEmulator050419.msi
(better use a 'normal' FTP client to download)
I'm looking for a program that will download a site (specifically a couple of small forums) on my PC and package it so I can browse it on my Trinity. I dont subscribe to any wireless data services so dont have net access to browse the live site.
Just wanted to have some information handy on my phone when I'm out and about.
nerd1 said:
I'm looking for a program that will download a site (specifically a couple of small forums) on my PC and package it so I can browse it on my Trinity. I dont subscribe to any wireless data services so dont have net access to browse the live site.
Just wanted to have some information handy on my phone when I'm out and about.
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I've written several specialized forum saving tools; see for example http://www.winmobiletech.com/mwc/ (really powerful engine knowing a lot of different forum engines but has a steep learning curve) and http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=2229&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 (only usable with one forum, 4pda.ru, ATM; but if you know Java, it's very easy to modify it so that it downloads and saves your own forums - you only need to do some HTML parsing)
Of course, there might also be other tools for desktop OS'es - dunno, Google for them. If you don't find any, and you know Java, check out the above apps.
try this program it is completely free,easy to use and works great, if you want to rip a website
http://www.httrack.com/
Thanks for the links Menneisyys, but I'm not sure if they are what I was looking for specifically. I'm also not a programmer and wouldnt know where to start with Java.
scousemartin said:
try this program it is completely free,easy to use and works great, if you want to rip a website
http://www.httrack.com/
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Thanks scousemartin, I've used similar products before (used to like webzip). I'll see how it goes with ripping a site and putting it onto a PDA.
Was hoping for something that worked together on a PC/PDA.
iSilo with iSiloX is made specially for what you want! you might check that out...
Official client from http://www.vollee.com/secondlife
If you have trouble downloading, choose following version. I have removed AT&T signature (the client is in Java). Works on HTC Kaiser (non AT&T). You have to switch to landscape to play.
http://rapidshare.com/files/120027655/second_life_wm.rar
Tried it on an ETEN X800 and get the message "We cannot authenticate your player".
Also it doesn't strech to 640x480 so only part of the screen is shown.
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Tried it on an ETEN X800 and get the message "We cannot authenticate your player".
Also it doesn't strech to 640x480 so only part of the screen is shown.
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You have to fill out their form to get yours TOKEN and OUSN (phone number). Then you can replace these parameters in JAD.
sorry to bump this thread but the rapidshare version does not work. it keeps saying cannot connect
If you try to visit the manufacturer's website you will notice that Vollee does not exist anymore.
The software was not an SL client, but actually a terminal-software. The actuall SL-Client was running at Vollee's server and it would just stream the image to your PDA, receiving in return your inputs.
This is regarded as being the future of gaming - you carry a small client, while the game itself is hosted and rendered at the manufacturer.
The obvious side effect is that you need to pay for the service and there is practically no way around that.
You can try to setup something similar, though, by installing SL on your home PC, together with a VNC server. You need to adjust the screensize proeprly and then you access your PC through a PocketPC version of VNC...
Cheers,
vma
out of all the vnc clients and servers ive tried the best for windows mobile to use for secondlife would be the remote desktop however on a lot of versions of windows it wont work unless you have a professional version of windows. and sound does work as well for it so u can hear voice but u will need a fast computer and phone for it to be an optimal experience
Remote Desktop only allows 16 bit color resolution, while Secondlife only starts if you are on 32 bit color resolution. Back then I did not find any way of getting around this, except using VNC instead.
Cheers,
vma
hey
help im new at this but i would love to play second life on my windows mobile phone can you explain how this would be done step by step?
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out of all the vnc clients and servers ive tried the best for windows mobile to use for secondlife would be the remote desktop however on a lot of versions of windows it wont work unless you have a professional version of windows. and sound does work as well for it so u can hear voice but u will need a fast computer and phone for it to be an optimal experience
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Yes i would like to know how i can run 32-Bit for my remote desktop on my HTC HD2
From what i have read i have only seen posts that allow you to go too 24-bit on XP.
But i have not managed to get that working though. My remote desktop on my Mobile phone still only allows me to go to 16-bit which is just horrible looking and doesnt allow allot of things too work.
Maybe there is a alternative program that does allow 32-bit?
Or a way to get my windows standard remote desktop to go that high?
Hopefully you guys know a way to get this working!
Cheers
You can't use Windows Remote Desktop Connection (aka RDP).
You MUST use VNC.
Install a VNC Server like UltraVNC or TightVNC on your PC and a VNC client on youer Windows Mobile phone.
Let me tell you upfront: it sucks. Too much lag, constant crashes of VNC on the mobile phone, too small a screen and the lack of keyboard makes the experience a really bad one. Much better to use Messenger straight away.
Cheers,
vma
Please can someone upload the file again? the two link are not more available, I woul like try second life on my PDA, thank you
vma said:
The software was not an SL client, but actually a terminal-software. The actuall SL-Client was running at Vollee's server and it would just stream the image to your PDA, receiving in return your inputs.
This is regarded as being the future of gaming - you carry a small client, while the game itself is hosted and rendered at the manufacturer.
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I really can't wait until stream gaming is improved, no longer would game development for mobile be entirely OS/hardware dependent.
I want only use chat of second life on my pda how can I download the software, please?
Looking for a program to convert .JAR to .APK so I can install programs/games on G1
The progam/app at http://www.netmite.com/android/ automatically converts .JAr to apk, but only does so from the Web, and I've tried to direct its url option to a a .JAR I've web hosted and it doesn't do anything, doesn't download the file or anything.
The sites that it gives you to choice from under its menu option suck, and don't allow files to be uploaded, most of the files don't support touch screen and don't work well with the G1's front soft keys.
J2ME MIDP Explorer just needs an option to install/ convert from the sd card
I've got a bunch of Java midlets on my PC and I want to get them to my G1 or at least play around with them in the emulator.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Maybe this is in the wrong Forum? Mods any thought?
Thanks
Dalamak said:
Maybe this is in the wrong Forum? Mods any thought?
Thanks
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You can't just convert a jar to an apk. It has to be compiled for android. Android's java library doesn't have all the swing stuff that's in normal java, so the app most likely would have to be re-written to work on android
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You can't just convert a jar to an apk. It has to be compiled for android. Android's java library doesn't have all the swing stuff that's in normal java, so the app most likely would have to be re-written to work on android
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Pretty sure MIDlets (MIDP jars) don't use Swing or awt. They have a separate user interface api under javax.microedition.lcdui
As for converting MIDP programs to runnable APKs, there is certainly a way. Technically it isn't a conversion but the use of a wrapper around the unconverted MIDlet. This is the approach that Opera Mini for Android uses. More info:
http://labs.opera.com/news/2008/04/10/
From the same article:
"The only major task was to replace the AWT/Swing graphics backend of MicroEmulator with Android specific APIs."
Id quite like this to work with bloover, though the blue tooth support needs to be extended in the g1, headset only. I want to send files!!
JesusFreke said:
From the same article:
"The only major task was to replace the AWT/Swing graphics backend of MicroEmulator with Android specific APIs."
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Right since MicroEmulator is a J2SE program, it uses Swing/awt classes. Since the heavy lifting of porting MicroEmulator to Android has already been completed, you don't have to worry about it. Theoretically, anyway.
Compiling MicroEmu for Android and running a Sudoku game:
http://microemu.blogspot.com/2008/11/running-java-me-applications-on-android.html
i try to use netmite to conver some jar file frome my web site
there is no garanty to aonverted java file work good in android but all of converted jar file all runing and then maybe it (work/crash/or slow)
Try UpOntek - jar to apk conversion service which includes optimization tips for your app.
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Id quite like this to work with bloover, though the blue tooth support needs to be extended in the g1, headset only. I want to send files!!
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use the program blutooth file transfer
Hi,
Just started using a HTC Trophy but I cannot for the life of me find an RDP client in the marketplace or on the phone.
Surely its there somewhere?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
J
"PC Connector" seems to do this.
There will be more as apps finish going through the curation process.
That is what i worry, i cannot find remote desktop on the telco set...
so confirm the PC Connector is going to work like remote desktop???
PC Connector is a pay software? come with the box? or market place DL?
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That is what i worry, i cannot find remote desktop on the telco set...
so confirm the PC Connector is going to work like remote desktop???
PC Connector is a pay software? come with the box? or market place DL?
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It will be hard to find one of these because Microsoft doesn't allow full networking access. Unless someone writes a remote desktop app that runs over web services (weird but probably possible), or Microsoft opens low-level APIs, then there won't be one. In either case it might take time.
moonlightsg said:
That is what i worry, i cannot find remote desktop on the telco set...
so confirm the PC Connector is going to work like remote desktop???
PC Connector is a pay software? come with the box? or market place DL?
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It's in the Marketplace... $4.99, but has a free trial.
I installed the free trial but it seems RDP is not one of its features.
Just found this - choung . net / charlie (cant post urls yet)[/url] - which kinda offers remote apps over http, works well and will do for the mean time.
Hopefully see some official RDP support soon...
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It's in the Marketplace... $4.99, but has a free trial.
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so this is from MS? or 3rd party? sorry, i don't have the phone right now so i cannot try.
but looks like it is for file download, Remote Desktop Client?
Live Mesh
Someone who has a windows phone (not me) should look into Windows Live Mesh. On the desktop, it allows remote connections to a computer that has it installed. On the website for Live Mesh, there's a picture of a little phone. Of course, it might be referring to just syncing files, but perhaps doing a remote desktop via Live Mesh on the phone is going to be possible?
I certainly hope that someone develops this; however I spoke with one of the develpers on the team at Microsoft and he confirmed that Microsoft has no plans to ship a RDP client.
Without socket support it's going to be a pain. You would have to pass everything through a http proxy. The Remote Desktop app on the market place does something like that with VNC. Hopefully the next WP7 update will bring official socket support.
Sorry...no. You can use the remote desktop function to get to PCs but not the phone.
Can someone clear this up, are we getting a RDC remote destop connection app for WP7 ???
No, it is currently not possible to create an App for Remote Desktop Connections in Windows Phone 7 as one would need the ability to access the Socket-APIs.
This might become available in future versions of the development tools.
What is a possible is to have a server somewhere that translates from the HTTP-Requests of the Phone to the RDP protocol acting as an intermediary. As far as I know there currently is no App that does this.
A homebrew software using a jailbroken phone should be possible as they have access to socket-communication.
just search remote desktop in marketplace, then you will find tada, a remote desktop client.
and its called *suprising* remote desktop. how hard can it be
I have it up and running, only it's a trial. software costs 15pounds
See: http://thefastmarket.com
Aerox912 said:
just search remote desktop in marketplace, then you will find tada, a remote desktop client.
and its called *suprising* remote desktop. how hard can it be
I have it up and running, only it's a trial. software costs 15pounds
See: http://thefastmarket.com
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Thats a VNC client, not a remote desktop (RDP) client.
Can't you just use a web based remote desktop client using explorer on the phone? Like free version of logmein.com or paid app gotomypc.com
I haven't tried it yet but I am sure it works might be a pain to maneuver around but I am sure there is a version somewhere that fits a smart phone screen size...
At least it's something to use until the second update in February rumored to release socket support maybe don't quote me on it.
the fastmarket remote desktop.
The problem: I use Real VNC from server side with password encryption - always on.
This app does not offer any encryption. Hope this will change.
If you are running non-free version of RealVNC, please make sure encryption is turned off.
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makku12 said:
Someone who has a windows phone (not me) should look into Windows Live Mesh. On the desktop, it allows remote connections to a computer that has it installed. On the website for Live Mesh, there's a picture of a little phone. Of course, it might be referring to just syncing files, but perhaps doing a remote desktop via Live Mesh on the phone is going to be possible?
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I asked on Microsoft's social site for Live Mesh and they said they (paraphrasing a quote) "Would consider looking into possibly maybe supporting Windows Phone 7 in the future". Translation "Dude, youre a genius! Lemme check."
Doesn't sound like it's on the horizon.
CozmicShredder said:
Can't you just use a web based remote desktop client using explorer on the phone? Like free version of logmein.com or paid app gotomypc.com
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Logmein free and logmeinrescue do not work as they require activeX controls or something (sorry I'm not a dev so that may not be the correct term...Im a XDA troll.) I have tried...
Can't wait for Sync/Mesh but I seem to have jettisoned RDP for logemin services and that would be awesome to have working on the phone.