Hi all!
I have a Blueangel device (WM2003SE, newest ROM from T-Mobile).
I primary sync it at home with my outlook 2003. Now I have an additional cradle and I want to sync it at work with outlook xp (which connects to a Lotus Notes server).
What happens if I sync it that way?
I don't want my Blueangel to sync the conacts and my appointments from my home computer at work and neighther do I want my Blueangel to sync all the stuff from work with my home pc.
I just want to have all synchronized to my device and not mixed on the pc's. Is that possible?
Thanks for your answers!
Setting one of your computers not to sync contacts is probably the only way you are going to keep them from getting mixed together. As far as I can tell, win CE only maintains one database of contacts.
MS ActiveSync only syncs in one direction...from the phone to the computer or the other way. I need a bidirectional sync so that any entries I make on my phone when out of the office, or are made to my desktop calendar by my staff, are sync'ed.
As it is now, if I put something on the phone and I plug it in to the USB on the desktop, the appt. is blown out because the desktop calendar controls. I can make it the other way around but then my desktop appts. blow out.
There is a 3rd party app called Easy Sync and it does way more than just bidirectional sync but I am wondering whether (1) there is another method or (2) if anyone has experience with Easy Sync in this context.
DLTempler said:
MS ActiveSync only syncs in one direction...from the phone to the computer or the other way. I need a bidirectional sync so that any entries I make on my phone when out of the office, or are made to my desktop calendar by my staff, are sync'ed.
As it is now, if I put something on the phone and I plug it in to the USB on the desktop, the appt. is blown out because the desktop calendar controls. I can make it the other way around but then my desktop appts. blow out.
There is a 3rd party app called Easy Sync and it does way more than just bidirectional sync but I am wondering whether (1) there is another method or (2) if anyone has experience with Easy Sync in this context.
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active sync is syncing in 2 directions (if you make an entry on the device...it will be synced to desktop pc,and vice versa)
that what you mentioned (one way-ppc to pc or pc to ppc) reffers only when you have 2 same entries but with some modifications
eg. i have DLTempler entry on both my phone and pc...i edit DLTemple contact in the phone...eg change the number...if the pc to ppc is checked DLTempler entry will be reverted to entry on the pc...or if ppc to pc is checked entry on the pc will be updated
Make sure you check your settings because the general idea of the PPC is to have a computer away from home. So, "bidirectional syncing" is an automatic function, unless anything has been changed, or your using software that doens't sync properly.
found a setting on the phone side of AS that was a problem. Changed it. Have to test and see if the problem is solved.
Well, what was the setting? I'm having the exact same problem (phone entries will sync to desktop, but desktop entries won't sync to phone).
On my phone I opened AS, I clicked on Menu, then Options, then Settings,
Conflicts: replace item on device
event logging: none
Why that worked? I have no idea.
Hi there.
I've the same problem, my pc sync's with my HTC but not the inverse.
Just to add a note.
Itens on calendar are bidirectional sincronized!!!!
I have a AT&T Fuze that I use with MS Mobile Device Center as a bridge between Outlook on my MS Exchange Server at Work and Outlook 2007 on my Windows 7 laptop & desktop at home. The system works like a top. Lately the display seems a little small however. I've been looking at an HTC Thunderbolt (Android) with the HTC sync application and several after market sync applications. Windows Phone 7 is off the table because of a decision by Microsoft not to sync with it's own product, Outlook. Has anyone solved a similar problem with Android? Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks.
I've been on a blackberry for many years and the Bold isn't thrilling me, so I'm thinking of making the jump to the Touch Pro/Fuze on AT&T when it is released. I've never used a HTC or WM device.
I've seen many reviews and demos of the handset on youtube, but what I haven't seen anywhere is a demo/description of the desktop program to sync the handset with a PC.
I use outlook, so I shouldn't have a problem with email, contacts, etc., but what about word, excel or pdf document transfer? What about music, photo and video transfer? What about video conversion?
Can anybody running the Touch Pro in Europe (or running a European version in the US) give a basic rundown of the desktop software for syncing?
Thx.
Well if you're using it with a Microsoft Exchange server, you can have direct push and it's essentially the same thing as a blackberry. the only caveat is that you need to have access to your company's Outlook Web Access (OWA) website - basically a website that would let you get your email in a web browser.
I've been using it for a few days now and it works flawlessly. I synced all my data using USB and then chose what i wanted transferred over the air and from then on I only connect when i'm in the office to charge and it syncs via usb rather than over the air at that time.
You'd need to have a data package through the wireless carrier tho so you don't get charged outrageous data fees.
Blackberry Connect also works great ont the TP if your work is using a Blackberry server.
Activesync and BB Connect will work for my outlook stuff (email, tasks, calendar, contacts, etc.), but what about syncing pictures, videos, music, or data from 3rd party apps (password keeper, etc)?
For example, on my Blackberry, I sync via desktop manager and each time any photos or videos I have taken are synced to my PC. Also, I back up the phone periodically through desktop manager so that I can restore if something happens or I need to do a hard reset or am upgrading the OS, etc.
Also, the desktop manager contains a Roxio program to manage media, and Blackberry offers Mediasync to manage music through iTunes.
Does the TP have similar software?
Activesync for XP and Windows Mobile Device Center for Vista do what you want and must be installed for the phone to sync.
try installing windows mobile device centre. you should have it already on you pc if you are running windows 7. if not, download it for free from microsoft
Hi, I'm new around here as a new WP7 user, I'm trying to get some advice. I have all of my contacts and calendar entries synced to Outlook. I have Zune software installed. I may just be missing something simple, but how do I get the phone to sync with Outlook and grab these contacts and calendar entries?
Many thanks
Michael.
Bad news. It does not sync with Outlook (only Exchange version) with a pst file.
11 page thread below re this.
What? Windows phone do not sync with outlook? Are they killing each other...
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Hi
It is possible - just get the Outlok connector to sync Outlook to Windows Live, and then Windows Live will sync to the WP7 (over the air).
Paul
I'm shocked that it can't just sync directly with Outlook
Anyway, I did put my Windows Live ID onto the phone, but that then synced all of my MSN contacts to the phone book, which I don't want. I couldn't find a way to stop it syncing my MSN contacts, and as you cannot delete the account once entered, I had to format the phone and start over.
So it looks like I'm going to need a whole new Windows Live account just to sync my Outlook contacts and calendar. Looking at the Outlook connector it seems to be saying that it'll transfer your Live contacts and calendar to Outlook, but what I'm wanting is the other way around, my Outlook calendar and contact to transfer to Live. How do you do this?
Many thanks
Michael.
Ok - firstly Windows Live isn't the only way to sync contacts/calendar on to your phone OTA. There is Exchange, gmail etc to do this. You might want to look at the other methods.
I for one didn't want to use Live at all and went for an hosted Exchange option till I can get my own server sorted (overkill I know). However, hosted Exchange costs about £4 pm.If you have your own domain, even sweeter.
So I still use Outlook (I'm lucky I have 2010 so can have 2 excahnge accounts on 1 profile) to keep all my work and home calendar and contacts in sync with my phone and this also translates to home desktops and laptops automatically too. This is as easy as drgging and dropping between accounts.
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Ok - firstly Windows Live isn't the only way to sync contacts/calendar on to your phone OTA. There is Exchange, gmail etc to do this. You might want to look at the other methods.
I for one didn't want to use Live at all and went for an hosted Exchange option till I can get my own server sorted (overkill I know). However, hosted Exchange costs about £4 pm.If you have your own domain, even sweeter.
So I still use Outlook (I'm lucky I have 2010 so can have 2 excahnge accounts on 1 profile) to keep all my work and home calendar and contacts in sync with my phone and this also translates to home desktops and laptops automatically too. This is as easy as drgging and dropping between accounts.
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If I have to sync with Outlook OTA, what I really want is a solution that works the same as MobileMe, i.e., it automatically keeps all the data between the phone and Outlook in sync without the need to perform manual syncs. Is this possible?
the usual send/recieve in outlook will connect to your live account also and onto your phone why pay £4pm when this kinda thing should be included, I'm sure MS will get off their arse soon and do some updates and tweaking.
jedix said:
the usual send/recieve in outlook will connect to your live account also and onto your phone why pay £4pm when this kinda thing should be included, I'm sure MS will get off their arse soon and do some updates and tweaking.
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You are right MS need to sort this out but I doubt it's a priority. They consider the whole Outlook thing to be a business solution and by their very own words are a secondary concern for this OS at the moment. They want the simple masses not the business/power users. They want that massive chunk of iPhone and Android drones to come over to WP.
There is no way I want my business and personal contacts and calendar on Live. That **** gets hacked all the time. The hosted exchange solution was the safest and easiest solution for me at present. It's quick and easy to set up, secure as it's a business solution and employs security protocols way above those on Live. In addition the OTA synchronisation between the device and all other machines that use that exchange account (so those at home and my PC at work) is instantaneous, and yes a bit of a pain to do the drag and drop between the exchange accounts but it's EXACTLY the same as you will have to do if you use Live and the Outlook connector. £4pm is in my opinion not a high price to pay for to satisfy my concerns.
Hmmm, so what r the options ?
Desktop synching is critical to me.
I've got a small business, we don't run Exchange server but have invested serious time to standardise on Outlook/Office: contacts, tasks, notes, onenote, email client, word/excel.
Contacts and detailed contact info is our IP; Word/Excel data is client confidential. Placing this on someone else's drive in the cloud isn't an option.
From what I understand so far...
1. Phone 7: data on the cloud; doesn't sync (manual updates)
2. Android: data on the cloud; synchs email and contacts only (?)
3. Apple: data on the desktop, synchs email and contacts only
4. Symbian: ugh !
5. WM6.x: currently trying to get away from the endless problems and snail-like performance
Is this right ?
Does anyone have an alternative (other than implementing Exchange)?
(Waiting doesn’t seem an option either. I'm sceptical MS will introduce desktop synching anytime soon, or at all: social users won't care and Exchange synch takes care of corporates - hence 80% of potential market is catered for. Also, the prospect of selling cloud storage has put a light in way too many eyes. )
mrochester said:
If I have to sync with Outlook OTA, what I really want is a solution that works the same as MobileMe, i.e., it automatically keeps all the data between the phone and Outlook in sync without the need to perform manual syncs. Is this possible?
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Windows Live uses Exchange ActiveSync. That is far superior to MobileMe. Do people still use MobileMe?
Anyways...
Exchange also uses ActiveSync.
Exchange is supported Natively in Outlook. Windows Live is supported via the Connector (Mail, Contacts, Calendar).
Everything stays in Sync.
jedix said:
the usual send/recieve in outlook will connect to your live account also and onto your phone why pay £4pm when this kinda thing should be included, I'm sure MS will get off their arse soon and do some updates and tweaking.
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The Outlook Connector and Hotmail ActiveSync is completely free.
Don't spread lies.
I'm not totally of-fay with Android or iPhone so can't really comment except I think that iPhones also do calendar from Outlook desktop via iTunes (and correct me if I'm wrong OTA with exchange).
Also with Android, some guys at work do use desktop sync to Outlook but I don't know what and how but they do use it.
I just came off the WinMo 6.5 bandwagon so I know what it was capable of not mater how bad.
WP7, my company won't open up the ports to allow Exchange to sync (they like SlackBerries) and with the absence desktop sync I had to implement my own methods for OTA syncing without using Live. None of this is ideal but it seems from other forums that a lot of people are complaining about this and M$ I believe are listening, though when it will be sorted is another matter.
Sorry
dfh said:
what I understand so far...
1. Phone 7: data on the cloud; doesn't sync (manual updates)
2. Android: data on the cloud; synchs email and contacts only (?)
3. Apple: data on the desktop, synchs email and contacts only
4. Symbian: ugh !
5. WM6.x: currently trying to get away from the endless problems and snail-like performance
Is this right ?
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You don't understand... No, it is not correct.
1. Data on the cloud. Synchs automatically:
Of course your email, calendar, and contact list shows up from Hotmail, powered by Exchange ActiveSync. And because the phone supports multiple ActiveSync connections, you can connect to your Exchange server at work and view all of your mail, both calendars, and your entire contact list on your phone. And similar to Hotmail on the web, it’s really easy to make quick edits to Office documents you receive as email attachments and reply.
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Reference: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...0/10/11/windows-live-and-windows-phone-7.aspx
2. Android Synchs Calendars from Google Servers. Google on Android has weaker (i.e. less tight) integration than Windows Live on Windows Phone 7, though.
3. MobileMe is inferior to both the WP7/Live and Android/Google integration. It supports ActiveSync, however.
4. Symbian supports ActiveSync. Symbian may not look that great but feature for feature it can match or rival most other smartphone OSes. The UI is what has held Symbian back, not the core platform - which is great.
5. WM6.x Supports ActiveSync and there is Windows Live for Windows Mobile to Sync Winodws Live Mail and Contacts to the phone. It can also merge Live Contacts with already-existing Phone contacts and show Presence information. There is Microsoft Office 2010 Mobile for Windows Mobile 6.5. The only WinMo phone I'd bother using is an HD2 these days, but that device has its own problems (if you get a "good one", then you're good to go, though).
On WinMo 6.5 You can sync your Hotmail Contacts/Mail via Windows Live for Windows Mobile, chat with Windows Live Messenger Mobile, and get your Google Mail, Contacts, and Calendar via ActiveSync by way of Google Sync.
Does anyone have an alternative (other than implementing Exchange)?
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Yes, you can get a Blackberry and use BIS/BES.
(Waiting doesn’t seem an option either. I'm sceptical MS will introduce desktop synching anytime soon, or at all: social users won't care and Exchange synch takes care of corporates - hence 80% of potential market is catered for. Also, the prospect of selling cloud storage has put a light in way too many eyes. )
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Desktop Syncing is a feature being fantastically overstated in these forums, just like stuff like a File manager. If you're a Lemming then just get an Android phone and use Google Services. If you can make your own decisions I think I've cleared up enough of your misconceptions in this reply (or at least given you the capabilities of each platform IRT what info syncs that may pretain to you specific use case).
EDIT: If you're running a business you can do yourself a favor and oursource your Exchange hosting. For example: http://www.apps4rent.com/ has 6-7GB mailboxes for something like $7.99/mo and you can get just 1 mailbox if you want, with no contract or anything. I used them for a couple of years, so I can vouch for them. You get Outlook for free with you Plan (or Entourage/Outlook for Mac) and ActiveSync is a free Add-On. You can access from web browsers using OWA, and use either a sub-domain or your own domain.
See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797472
I'm pretty sure anyone reading this thread has seen that trainwreck of a thread. You don't need to crosspost the link here. You're free to bump your thread.
Pretty sure
I'm very sure that you do not use Outlook on a stand alone PC with a pst file and sync every day with a Win Phone or you would understand what we are all talking about. No I qualify, sync every day with Calender, Tasks, & Contacts.[/I]
Just for those who have read this thread and are confused; I have an outlook calendar, contacts, and hotmail all synced up with my WP7 device.
Calendar - I chose to install Google Calendar Sync onto my Outlook PC. It automatically syncs my local outlook calendar with the cloud every 10 mins. Google calendar then pushes any changes to my phone instantly, no wires.
Contacts - I chose to install the hotmail connector for outlook, and dragged all my contacts out of their folder and into the hotmail account. this pushed them onto the phone automatically, no wires. Any changes to contacts are now made either on the phone directly, or in the new contacts folder created by the hotmail connector.
Hotmail - I used to use the POP3 account settings, but decided to change to using the outlook connector instead. Works a treat. Push Email is far superior to clunky old send/receive schedules.
The above may not suit everone, but it works for me and I`m very happy with the results.
@N8ter
No, desktop sync and file manager is not oversized.
It's basics which should be provided
Funny how people were moaning about WM6.5's lack of wireless sync with Outlook. Now that WP7 syncs wirelessly with Outlook, people are moaning that it doesn't sync over wired USB.
Some people will never be happy. *shrug*