MMC or SD Card: Any difference on the Magician - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading

Hi there!
I am avaiting my Magician any day and was wondering if there is any recognisable difference in speed between a 1 GB MMC and SD Card?
Please tell me as I planned to buy a MMC version (cheaper).
Regards
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SD is faster!
http://www.geocities.com/romidar/mmcvssd.htm

Thanx a lot for the quick reply but I am not jet canvinced. My concern was more about the practical results. I.e. Does the Magician really read and write faster on SD Cards? Is it a problem to watch a video from a MMC card or to run progis such as Navigation?
Regards
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Why go through all this trouble ? SD is faster than MMC and the price is almost the same (if you know where to look that is, we in the netherlands have great sites for that).
Goodluck

Could you recomend a site? Unfortunately I don't speak any dutch.

http://froogle.google.de/froogle?q=sd

i just bought on ebay a Sandisk 1GB SD for 60 Euros, try to take a look there :wink:

What the heck. I also bought a 1 GB SD Card through ebay. 54€ is fair i think .

How did you all find such low prices? I only found 74 euro excl. transport costs.
By the way, does the speed of the cards matter much? Is it possible to view a movie without stuttering on a normal (slow) sd-card?
thanks

As to the price: It took me about 5 days constant attention on ebay. But as I have Internet at work I guess it was worth it.
To the speed: I guess you should be fine with a SD Card. Basically I had the same question regarding MMC (see above).

Sandisk 1GD SD Card.
65 Euros.
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SANDISK SDSDH-256-901 Ultra II SD Memory Storage Card

Can this SD card be used for XDA2/MDA2? This can transfer write 9Mb/s, and read up to 10Mb/s. Does XDA2/MDA2 support this format speeds?
If yes, is it better to buy this than just a regular SD cards? Because I saw it on the net that they have a sale on this card that almost the same price compare to regular SD card. Less than $70 after rebate.(256Mb)
here's the link:
http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?RestartFlow=t&Section_Id=1&Product_Id=3729513
DON'T USE SCANDISK SD CARD, MANY MANY PROBLEM
USE PANASONIC 256 SD CARD, THE QUALITY IS BETTER THAN SCANDISK, THIS 256 SD CARD IS FASTER THAN SCANDISK
horsy said:
DON'T USE SCANDISK SD CARD, MANY MANY PROBLEM
USE PANASONIC 256 SD CARD, THE QUALITY IS BETTER THAN SCANDISK, THIS 256 SD CARD IS FASTER THAN SCANDISK
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I´ve got an SanDisk SD card with 256 MB since 2 Years and didn´t have any Problem with it....
Stefan
PS: Why are you using capital Letters?
There are no problem with sandisk... You can easily use Sandisk!
The Sandisk ultra II will work with XDA2, but I don't know if the XDA2 will write 9MB/s and read the 10MB/s. It will then simply just speed down..
I hope that helps you a bit.
btw, the prize difference is not that big.
/Deathrow
Thanks for the input guys, really appreciate it.
@Deathrow: Thanks for the tip!
nothing wrong with sandisk their cards are the most compatable brand out.
ive had my 256mb sandisk too for nearly a year never had one problem with erase or dataloss :\
if only that site delivered to the uk id buy one of them
I have the a 256 MB Scandisk too for over 14 months and had no problems with it.
My brother in law bought a 128 mb sandisk SD card from the US.. and the first time he opened it, tried it - it didn't work. Devices cant read the card, he tried it on a lot of devices, tried formatting it and still cannot be read.. since it was bought from the US, he has no way of returning it..
i agree with the prvious post, that panasonic sd cards are better
sleekool said:
My brother in law bought a 128 mb sandisk SD card from the US.. and the first time he opened it, tried it - it didn't work. Devices cant read the card, he tried it on a lot of devices, tried formatting it and still cannot be read.. since it was bought from the US, he has no way of returning it..
i agree with the prvious post, that panasonic sd cards are better
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so in other words it was faulty? so you compare a faulty card to that of a working one
the sense in that :|
Yes.. its faulty and its a sandisk... get that? I have also browsed through other forums where they have a lot of problems with the sandisk card...
Lexar and Panasonic SD cards are better than Sandisk , in other words, SD cards "made in Japan" are really the best !
After 2 SD Sandisk with the same problem as above (I was happy, as I've bought them in a store in my town, I returned them ..) , I buy only , Lexar or Panasonic , no problem and really fast ...
SANDISK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????
I'm in Nigeria where there is no right of return, so you can guess my grief when I shelled out a lot of cash to buy a sandisk 256Mb SD card that turned out to be bad. Since then I buy ONLY lexar. A word is enough for the wise, as the yorubas will say!
I do use few Sandisk SD cards (from 64MB to 512MB) .... and so far so good
regards, monika
SanDisk Ok? not sure...
I bought last year a 256mo SanDisk but after one month, it dead :'(
The seller sent to me another one and all seems to be OK for 1 year. :wink:
For me Sandisk is not ok
I comared the speed of a Sandisk 128MB and some others (i.e. delkin).
Sandisk had only half the Speed (with USB Reader) than the others.
As I tried to open a 4Meg Pocketstreets map from the Sandisk Card on the XDA1 - Pocketstreets hang.
It worked with all other Cards
I'll never by a Sandisk again!!
Fidl
Suprperry: Just for your info, I live in Australia, and ordered a SD ULTRA II 256MB to use with my XDAII. Got it off an ebay store called aussiememory. I recived it 2 days ago, and have had not a single problem. In terms of the faster speeds, I did a quick benchmark with Pocket Mechanic (I just put it on, havent fiddled enough yet), and I was only getting something like 1.4MB/s, or something like that, for read. Like I said, I havent mucked around with the program, and Im sure there is 1 specific test to accurately test the speeds. When I find out properly, I will post.
Also, this pocket mechanic is a great tool for the XDAII. You can select any type of format, memory scan and repair, defragment, etc, all while your card is in the device. I used it on the ULTRAII in the XDAII, and you just have to have it on permanent power while you use any tests in pocket mechanic.
Rb26DETTGT_R said:
Suprperry: Just for your info, I live in Australia, and ordered a SD ULTRA II 256MB to use with my XDAII. Got it off an ebay store called aussiememory. I recived it 2 days ago, and have had not a single problem. In terms of the faster speeds, I did a quick benchmark with Pocket Mechanic (I just put it on, havent fiddled enough yet), and I was only getting something like 1.4MB/s, or something like that, for read. Like I said, I havent mucked around with the program, and Im sure there is 1 specific test to accurately test the speeds. When I find out properly, I will post.
Also, this pocket mechanic is a great tool for the XDAII. You can select any type of format, memory scan and repair, defragment, etc, all while your card is in the device. I used it on the ULTRAII in the XDAII, and you just have to have it on permanent power while you use any tests in pocket mechanic.
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Thanks for the info m8! And thanks for the tip on pocket mechanic, really appriciate your effort!
THANKS guys for all the input/comments on this particular card, really appriciate it!
Sandisk seem to be slower in comparison and it seems also that either their quality control is sloppy or lots of rejects are being recycled on the market by dealers, it reminds me of a guy selling Intel cpu chips cheap, turned out they were all from the reject skip, gave Intel a bad name around here but it wasnt their fault really.
SD Memory Card - Problems - Data Loss
I'm using the SD card on a PDA (XDA 2). After having successfully copied several mp3 files and also loads of pictures on to the card, the next day, they just disappeared. I this I noticed loss after I installed an applic like BatteryPack. The files I copied onto the card used up quite a lot of space on the card and there was just 50MB remaining. The card is still showing 50MG remaining, but there is no sign of the MP3s or the pictures I copied onto it.
Can anyone help me? May be the card is faulty. Is there a way of formatting the card so that at least I can reclaim the 256MB of memory? I'm using ActiveSync to access the card on my PC. I can see it in explorer but cannot format as option to format is not there.
I am worried about it's (SD Card's) realibility now. If I use it for storing new pictures or other important files and loose them like I just have, that would be very annoying.
Thanks in advance - Ustad
http://www.softwinter.com/storagetools.html

which 1GB sd-card is the best?

I need a fast 1GB sd-card for my MDA-II.
Which one is the best?
There are quite some "bad" SD cards for sale.
You might want to check www.pocketgps.co.uk
Bottom line: Toshiba, Panasonic & Lexar manufactured SD cards are the best for PocketPC hardware, especially if youre using TomTom.
DO NOT USE Sandisk (not just my experience).
Note that a lot of brands have their cards manufactured by one of the named manufaturers. Kingston SD cards are very likely to come from Toshiba.
Also note that speed is not the most important factor, it's stability that make things work.
Kingmax
I have been using a Kingmax 1G card for a few months now. I have been very happy with it. It was inexpensive and it is fast. The only disadvantage I can think of is that it doesn't have a hardware write-protect. That is because it is waterproof. I don't know about you, but if my Xda II falls in the toilet, the SD card isn't going to be my biggest worry!
Good luck!
Pretec is the worlds fastest and I have one. Works Great! Check out there website for more info.
http://www.pretec.com/product/SSD/MMC/Commercial_MMC.htm
Cheers,
Mike
Re: Kingmax
CoreyMck said:
I have been using a Kingmax 1G card for a few months now. .....!
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Do you also use the SD for TomTom Navigator 3, or are you 'just' storing data on it?
Storing & Retrieving is not the isue, its the stressed reading that makes SD cards collapse . . .(until soft-reset) TomTom Navigator 3 is know to be stressfull to SD cards and pushes the less stable ones over the edge.
A good test would include:
Install a TomTom 3 Map & POI on SD
Drive on the motorway at >= 120km/h (to generate enough map-data throughput) in following situations: a. with POI switxched on and b. without POI switched on. If it works, let it recalculate a new route (yes, while driving!) and eventually increase speed.
Please publish the results, especially for Kingmax & Pretec.
FYI: Sandisk failed at both, same with Extrememory (just a bit better). Kingston is OK without POI but fails with POI.
Re: Kingmax
edsub said:
.....A good test would include:
Install a TomTom 3 Map & POI on SD
Drive on the motorway at >= 120km/h (to generate enough map-data throughput) in following situations: a. with POI switxched on and b. without POI switched on. If it works, let it recalculate a new route (yes, while driving!) and eventually increase speed.
Please publish the results, especially for Kingmax & Pretec.
FYI: Sandisk failed at both, same with Extrememory (just a bit better). Kingston is OK without POI but fails with POI.
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Edsub, wowwwww thanks! Now I know why my old sd-card locked-up 1 month ago on the highway!!!! This was exact the case!
wat about Kingmax and LExar sd-cards?
Re: Kingmax
edsub said:
CoreyMck said:
I have been using a Kingmax 1G card for a few months now. .....!
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Do you also use the SD for TomTom Navigator 3, or are you 'just' storing data on it?
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A good test would include:
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I don't own a GPS that I can connect to my Xda II. I'll be happy to try it if someone wants to give me one. If you know of any software that will perform a stress-test, I can try that for you as well.
I've got a traxdata SD card and most of the time its works fine.
Sometimes when i drive and plot a route in tomtom it freezes up.
Not all of the time.
chears,
I use an Kingmax 1GB sd card and have had no problems whatsoever!!!!!
Will be hopefully using it with TomTom 3 this weekend.
Will let you know when I do.
I've just had to send my Kingmax 1Gb SD Card back as it started exhibiting some "strange" behaviour.
Moving files from the phone memory to the SD Card would basically send the file into oblivion as it would not appear on the SD Card and the original file being deleted!
Tried formatting on the PPC but wouldn't work, tried formatting in my PC but format would fail...
EDIT: TomTom3 worked fine from it. Although every now and again it would take AGES to load in the map when on map view mode. Screen updates were also slow but that may well be down to my 4800bps wired GPS unit
I use a Lexar 1GB with copilot 5 works great have had no issues at all paid $79.00 usd
mm, I would like to know a website that sells Lexar 1GB SD memory for around $80 (and ships them to The Netherlands) . . . .
i-mate jam + 1gb lexar >> works fine, no problem.
Not sure bought mine at FRY'S www.outpost.com is their website.
does the all the 1G lexar sd speed at 32? where can i find one in uk
cheers
So which card is the best? Reading through the messages it appears that for TomTom Navigator it's between Kingmax and Pretec, and possibly Lexar?
Did anyone get some recommendations from Tomtom directly as to which cards work the best with their product?
Not sure bought mine at FRY'S www.outpost.com is their website.
@Argeles: You misunderstood. Best choice for use with TomTom are Lexar, Panasonic or Toshiba manufactured SD cards.
Toshiba is also sold under the Kingston brand.
Check www.pocketgps.co.uk for more info and query on specific brands.
Just wring with a update:
I am using a Kingsmax 1GB card and got my GPS receiver yesterday. Been using it since yesterday with TomTom 3 with no problems whatsoever. Even recalculating route while driving.
I'd recommend the KingsMax card going on my experience. The choice is yours!?!?
well, I heard that there is really no big difference between ordinary 1 gb card and 1gb high-speed card. However you pay almost 30euro more for the high-speed card. Lexar 1gb costs 79 euro and Lexar HS 1gb costs 100 euro.
I bought yesterday in Holland at MyCom shop a 1gb card (Apacer) for 69 euro. It is really fast and has 1 year gurantee!
Test results are super:
Read: 0.70mb/sec (tested with PocketMechanic)
Write: 0.02mb/sec
My old SanDisk 256mb read only 0.10MB/sec

SD 512 CARDS??

I need help finding a replacement SD card for my XDA11 as mine seems to have nothing but problems..
I have replaced them twice now and the same faults come up time and time again ie not allowing me to access them or even format them...
The make is Jessup the camera shop people has any one of you had the same problem could this be a dodgy batch or do I persivere as its quite a cheap card....
any more good makes recommended??
and whats this SAN disk I keep seeing mentioned are they compatible??
I've had probs with Jessops cards in my cameras. I was using a 512MB card made by PNY, or rather by Toshiba (it says Toshiba on the back) and branded with a PNY sticker on the front. I used this in my Magician before switching to mini SD in the Wizard. Excellent card, cost me about 30 quid but its out fo work currently as I am using Mini SD now. If you can find a PNY (toshiba) that should work fine, I've had two now and they are fine.
512 sd cards
Thanks for the swift reply I will take a look in the shops tomorrow.
can I ask what retailer you brought the Toshiba clone cards from ?
regards Lee
I bought it from PC world, they do PNY memory upgrades for PC's as well.
But you can get them cheaper elsewhere, for example, MobyMemory.
i have 1 128MB sandisk it's ok but slow
i have 2 512 kingston elite pro and they rock never had any problems
Jessops 512 Mb sd
I have been using Jessops SD cards in my alpine for about 9 months without any problems untill last week whenthe device melted ( i think ) my 512 card !!!! this is my first experience of the problem . I do have a 256mb jessops card as well and that one is still working .
Not sure how to proceed ?? any suggestuions on the best card to buy ?? and where to get it cheapest ?
Astro1

question about switching storage card

Hi, guys
This is a great forum, and I learnd a lot of stuff on this site. Thanks for all your hard work.
I'm a new user of windows mobile and I'm currently with an o2 orbit 2. I have 3 1G cards separately stored applications & co-pilot, music and movies. The question is how i can switch between different storage cards without harming my device. Do i have to switch the device off to change the card, are there any implications for doing that? Cheers.
fantasist said:
The question is how i can switch between different storage cards without harming my device.
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The Cruise/Polaris's storage card is supposed to be hot-swappable, per HTC the manufacturer. With the price of storage cards going down every day, have you considered buying an 8gb card? I bought one for about $70 with my new Cruise, and now I see them on ebay for $55-60. Good luck...
You can "hot-swap" the µSD card of the o2 Orbit2 (I do ), and, of course, also of the TC.
I bought a 8GB Class 4(!) µSDHC card on ebay.de for 39,95€ (+postal charges)
EDIT: Here: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130194411701
thank you for your reply.
I'll use hot-swap for now. And buy a 8G card in a few days.
anything I should be aware of when buying the 8G card?
fantasist said:
thank you for your reply.
I'll use hot-swap for now. And buy a 8G card in a few days.
anything I should be aware of when buying the 8G card?
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Personally, I prefer SanDISK brand...
If anyone's interested, I saw an online article somewhere, that stated that sandisk and toshiba both had 16gb microsd cards starting up production, and toshiba actually had found a way to cram 32gb on a card, but sandisk was still working on it. bet we'll all have 32gb cards by next Christmas... Man, back in the early 80's when I had my Atari 800XL, if you'd have told me I'd have 32gb on a portable phone, I'd have laughed at you... heheheee
Seriously. I remember I had a 20 MB hard drive on a 8088/86 computer. That thing was huge and weighed a ton. Now we can have 32 GB on something smaller than my fingernail.
Yeah I have an 8 GB card from amazon for about $60 if i recall correctly. They're definitely worth it.
if you want to use your sd card as some kind of "ram-extender" you may try to get a fast one.
I eg install all programs on my card to have as much ram free as possible, there for I bought the fastest I found.
aleph305, do you notice any difference in speed - can the Polaris take advantage of a faster card? (Perhaps there is a maxspeed)
first : sry 4 the delay.
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and now. number three, the larch ...
no ... ehm
I guess so.
on a magician I installed pocketplus on the card (noname 2gb @ approx. 12r/5-9w mb/s) and the today screen becomes unusable.
then bought a panasonic 2gb 150X (approx 20-22r/14-18w mb/s) and pocket plus runs like it where at the ram.
Therefore I can confirm that the magician will and Im pretty sure every device will when you use the card as "ram".
ps
- you have never enough ram
- your ram is never fast enough

where to buy 16GB micro sdhc class 6 from?

amazon is too annoying, brings up anything and everything, don't trust ebay
mymemory has class 2 or class 10 for £80+
help
NM, found a thread on this forum and got one ordered. yay!
from? link?
Bought all my SD Cards from these guys http://www.mobymemory.com/micro-SD.asp
this thread isnt in the wrong section at all.............
Can I ask why people care about the class? I've just got a class 2 32gb card from Vodafone for £89. I've not noticed any problems or slowdown taking pictures or playing media...which are the only things my card is used for. Transfers are no slower than any other device I connect via USB.
What's the big fuss?
it's for running apps from in the (hopefully) near future.
class 6 means (i think) a minimum 6Mb/sec transfer rate
oh, got it from memory cow
Yes, but most people have suggested they see no difference when using apps2sd with the "slower" cards. It seems there's a lot of assumptions being made leading to actual sales decisions where it may not be needed.
See this fellow who thought a faster card would solve his issues: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708859
So where is no differences between class 2 and class 6 ?
Because i have dilemma now, i want to buy some high capacity microSD card, and if i take 32GB it will be class 2, and if i take at same cost 16GB card it will be class 6.
And does any body try to buy 32GB card from Ebay ? ( i am worrying that 32GB is not GB, its Gb, and that means just 4GB )
Thanks for help
i woul;dn't trust the cards off ebay tbh
I went ahead and bought the Transcend 16gb class 6 card through OFFTEK. It arrived with the adaptor, and was very prompt.
http://www.offtek.co.uk/item_detail....at=1&subcat=74
Pretty good price too. I just copied everything to my desktop, swapped cards and copied back.
The new card works great, but i did notice that the full card size is stated as "14.96gb" on the phone, rather than 16.
I also wonder if there is a difrence between a class 2 or class 6 card when playing movies, apps or taking pictures on your SD card.
because that would make the difrence between going for a 32gb or 16gb card.
well, i noticed a difference when copying files. both cards broke 10MB/sec on large files, but the old card dropped damn quick when copying loads of small files - e.g photos.
i'd imagine it would be like this when looking through an album or flicking from one image to the next. it's not about the max speed, but the minimum.
hi mate,
what do you think about this one
http://cgi.ebay.it/16-GB-SD-HC-card...=ViewItem&pt=Memory_Cards&hash=item4aa2174e76
I know you don't trust ebay but class 10
monkeydrufy said:
hi mate,
what do you think about this one
http://cgi.ebay.it/16-GB-SD-HC-card...=ViewItem&pt=Memory_Cards&hash=item4aa2174e76
I know you don't trust ebay but class 10
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37 euro's for class 10/16GB seems waaay to cheap for me.
I also doubt it's a micro sd
dragonithe said:
37 euro's for class 10/16GB seems waaay to cheap for me.
I also doubt it's a micro sd
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right it is not a micro-sd, I have see bad
THE CLASS OF AN SD CARD IS TO DO WITH ITS WRITE SPEED NOT ITS READ SPEED, YOU WONT NOTICE ANY DIFFENCE WHEN READING FROM IT
deviouscreation said:
The new card works great, but i did notice that the full card size is stated as "14.96gb" on the phone, rather than 16.
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Perfectly normal not to get the quoted capacity, combination of space lost due to formatting and the tendency of hardware producers to size storage media in decimal (ie. 16 000 000 000 bytes) rather than the binary equivalent - which the OS displays (16 x 1024 x 1024 x 1024 bytes).
I've confused myself with that statement - in short the hardware manufaturers use a commonly accepted, flattering but actually incorrect notation to lead you to believe that you are getting more for your money - HTH
Kingston make a 16gb class10, but it's pretty expensive (~100€)
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC?&filters=size:16384|Class:class 10
http://www.kingston.com/frroot/flash/sdhc_micro.asp
Oh, and by the way, up to what class num can the Desire actually handle ?
I picked up my SanDisk 16GB Class 6 from the Carphonewarehouse when i went and got my Desire,,, i beleive it was £42
IMO i have always used Class 6 cards, i think they are the business, i dont care for read and write speeds i just need something that works and is reliable, SanDisk have always had my back so there ya go

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