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hey all
i purhcased an 02 XDA Exec for work purposes, now it does evereyhting i need it to apart from 1 thing, which was a major plus thing for me to get 1.
It has WM5 on it and using Word Mobile thats installed on it.
i need to be able to get a customer to sign a word document to say job completed etc.
i have looked at settings etc and found an option in word mobile to transcribe, now this will let me handwrite onto a word doc but it changes what i've written into text which i dont want it to do. checked settings and turned off a few things to do with transcribe, but it still converts the handwritten text to normal text.
i can open a word document on it, fill it as needed with the keyboard etc, but when it comes to get a signature off a client/customer it will not do it.
it saves me printing out sheets all the time, wasting paper, when i can just xfer the docs to my pda and do it on there and then email it when finished. much easier.
one thing i have found out recently is that the option is avaialble in pocket word for windows pocket 2003 which my freind has, he showed me that in the same options where you change between transcribe and keyboard etc, his has the extra option called "drawing", which mine doenst. so i may have to downgrade os to get this feature, i have seen sky and rac people with xda execs and they can do it, i should imagine i can too!
heeelp
You can do a mix of drawing(signature) and text in the Note application.
i can handwrite into notes ya but how do i incorporate that into a word doument?
i would rather sign on the word document itself
Well, I'm not sure why. If you read this
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windowsmobile/articles/pocketword.mspx
The Pocket Word of WM2003 works with drawings
However, if you look at
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/help/pocketpc/unsupportedword.mspx
Word Mobile of WM5 doesn't support shapes
M$ has weird sense of logic in the 'improvements' of their products.
i think i might have to downgrade os to wm2003 so i will have pocket word, unless i can install pocketword onto wm5.
stupid how its in an earlier version and not the new one! heh
i will have a read of some more threads for downgrading
downgrading sounds difficult from what i've read,
does anyone know if WM6 supports drawing in word?
might be easier to upgrade than downgrade?
doob said:
downgrading sounds difficult from what i've read,
does anyone know if WM6 supports drawing in word?
might be easier to upgrade than downgrade?
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Not likely, read my other thread. O2 phones are not like others such as HP or Dell which offered upgradeable OS.
anyway, i think u can try other text editing softwares and/or different keyboard softwares. I heard Calligrapher (or something like that) offers both handwritten and keyboard entry at the same time.
With my TyTN = Hermes and WM6.0 the autosuggestion of words seems much better than the Raphaels (at least in the hardware keybord stance).
Can someone explain why that is or if I have haven´t understood the utility or something else right?
With TyTN it basically suggests 4 alternatives in a diagonal way, it can be one word or SEVERAL words in a row, depending on what I´we written before. And you choose from them with the upp and down arrow keys. Simple and quick.
With Raphael it suggests several ONLY singular words horisontally, and if it´s not in the dictionary it automatically chooses another word than the one you´we just written (!?). Slow and awkward.
Also - who is behind this solution? Windows Mobile 6.1 or is it HTC Raphaels unique solution?
Thanks in advance
/Danne
Anybody have an opinion or information on this matter?
At least the system is a part of WM6.1 or if it´s Raphaels unique solution? Because I´m thinking about buying a Kaiser with WM6.1 instead and wonder if it has the same solution.
Sorry, no additional info, but I'm in the same boat so to speak.
I find it completely useless, specially since I don't always use English in my SMS messages, and I found that it becomes a nightmare if it doesn't find a match and then forces my word to something it thinks it should be.
What I cannot understand is that under Settings-Personal-Input-Word Completion - I have DISABLED it, but it still friking tries to complete my words, even in keyboard mode???
Do you know of another place to disable this dastardly excuse of a feature?
HAH!
Found it! If you want to disable it completely, the do the following:
1) make sure you disable it under settings - all settings - personal - Word Completion.
2) When you open a new message, bring up the virtual keyboard and look for the button that reads "ABC T9" - it has a toggle on the button, make sure it is on "ABC" and NOT T9 -voila!
Now I can SMS again!
I´m glad I was not the only one being irritated about this. But at least it´s possible to turn it off, so thanks for posting the solution Piie
I actually returned my TP because of this and severeal other reasons but I´m thinking about buying it again or some other WM6.1 phone. So do you know if your solution to turn if of works with Word Mobile documents as well?
And still, if somebody knows if it´s part of Raphael or WM6.1, please let me know.
Agreed 100% on the uselessness of word completion feature on the TP. On mine, the T9 feature actually slows the sms application so much as to make it completely unusable. This is probably my biggest complaint with this device.
Yip, following the steps as posted also removes the predictive text completely for Word ( and all other apps I have used so far)...
Thanks piie
I believe its part of the TP keyboard (SIP) not WM6.1 , when i had my kaiser with wm6.1 this "IRRITATING" issue was not there, but when i installed the diamond keyboard on my kaiser, this thing came out...... now its part of the TP because of its keyboard.......... so its HTC
I was getting annoyed with the behavior described in posts 1 and 2, disableds the whole thing too (I had an Excalibur before and it seemed to work far better on this particular aspect).
However, I decided to give the TP's T9 another shot and started changing it's configurations and finally got rid of the annoiance related: when on a text field, bring up the T9 options by pressing "Fn" + "Space", select "T9" settings and on the screen that appears uncheck the "Spell Correction" and "Auto-substitution" boxes.
Now I'm using the word prediction (T9) again just like I used in my old device, tipying much faster! (specially because I commonly write in portuguese and my keyboard is the UK one...).
Hope this helps you guys.
Cheers.
Sweet!
So you can still have predictive text, but remove the actual "irritant" of it overriding your word if it doesn't match it's dictionery - seems like that is the answer to your problem Danne?
For me - I really don't care for ANY kind of prediction - most often than not, even in English, the suggestions are maybe 30% usefull if that...
Great!
Yes, this is solution and now I know it´s part of Raphael/Diamond and not WM6.1!
Still, the Hermes WM6-solution with prediction of several words based on what you previously have written seems better. But I am happy with this!
I guess that´s the last words for me in this discussion.
Thanks guys!
just wondering how to disable word completion without installing htc ezinput, because at input settings by disabling it, doesn't work at all.
here's everything you need to know on how to get back to the old style autocorrect and change your dictionaries: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1527
That however breaks your hardware keyboard
sym key will stop working and you can't get pound and euro sign using FN key....
see my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470647
I recently switched from using the ATT Tilt to the Cruise (mainly because it's smaller/lighter to carry around) It's mainly working ok, but I have a few questions:
1) Does anyone know of a decent handwriting recognition software out there I could use? On the TILT i got used to the "block-recognizer," as the lesser of evils, but i would LOVE to find software that can use the whole screen. I use these devices a lot, so after a while that lower left corner becomes all scratched up (even using a screen protector) , and then you have to pay about $200 for a new screen, since the characters no long respond well to Block Recognizer. I"ve tried the "Transcriber" that comes with Windows Mobile 6, and it seems awful, as do the several other programs i found online, such as Pen Writer and Caligrapher, i think they're called? Back when i used Palm/Treo devices, i really loved the Teal Script program, but it doesn't seem to work for W Mobile? Anyone know of anything that could work??
2) Some things worked better on the Tilt, i guess becuase of the ATT software? For example, on Tilt you can use the word completion software in the Calendar mode, but on the Cruise it doesn't come up. And the word completion software "remembers" two-word or longer phrases in the ATT Tilt software, but not in the Cruise. Is there any work-around to be able to do this on the Cruise too??
3) Is it worth trying to upgrade to 6.1 on the Cruise, through some kind of cooked ROM, or better to wait until HTC finally (hopefully) releases the 6.1 ware??
Thanks much!!
Daniel
1. sounds like transcriber
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...familyid=a8b343c3-2eee-41e3-9339-f7b303f4b386
Sorry, but Transcriber is already on the device, and it seem terrible to use?!! Isn't there ANYTHING out there that works ok??
Thx much!
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Hi all,
I've had my TP for about a month now and it's great and thanks for all the great info and tweaks on the board.
I have Chinese (CE Star) installed as a selectable writing language so I was wondering is it possible to use/remap the hardware keyboard to switch between writing languages like on a desktop PC (ALT+Shift) since it is much more convienient using keys to switch than taking my hands off the keyboard and pulling up the SIP.
I tried using PQzII but I couldn't get it to work, so no luck there.
Any suggestions?
Any ideas?
If you can get a program that will switch with a command line, at least on the AT&T Fuze, there are a number of shortcuts the keyboard driver looks for on keypress, and if you have that shortcut there it will execute that rather than the pre-programmed function. People are using this to remap the short PTT button and long PTT button.
I have not looked at a Touch Pro keypad driver dll, so I don't know what shortcuts it's looking for.. but that's one idea
Oh great thanks for the suggestion, but aside from a registry editor, I'm not familiar with other programs which alter how the TP works.
Is command line similar to "Run-->cmd" on windows?
Also, I got my phone in Hong Kong; English OS with the Chinese software installed; it's an unlocked phone so dunno if that will make a difference with your suggestion.
Are there other programs similar to PQzII; like many others have said, the keyboard would be SO much more useful if it can be mapped. Thanks again.
Yes, the command line for a shortcut behaves the same as Run -> Cmd on windows, you provide arguments in the same manner: programname.exe -argument
So if you could find a program that would switch writing languages with an argument like -Chinese and -English, you could create a shortcut .lnk with that command in it.
Then, name it to whatever the keypad.dll is looking for, and it would execute that command instead of the default one.
If you'd like me to look into this further, I can disassemble the keypad.dll and determine which buttons can be remapped in this manner (on the fuze it's Music, SMS, IM, CV, Contacts, Calendar, Messages, Web, Long/Short Power, Long/Short PTT)
Great, thanks for the offer, but no need to do that. Seems like it'd take a good deal of time unless you feel so inclined to haha; perhaps I'll try PQzII again or maybe not.
But anyways thanks again!
I guess a question to everyone else that switches between typing languages...how do you change languages? Do you have a shortcut or do you also, like me, change languages through the SIP menu?
I have the Verizon version of the HTC Touch (VX6900). I have tried many keyboards including Zoomboard, HTC Diamond keyboard, Spb Full Screen Keyboard, PCM Keyboard, etc.
Can you suggest a keyboard that "learns" frequent words that you type and suggests them in the future so you can just hit the space bar to type out the word for you? For me I use the same words a lot and I would really benefit from that.
I know there are keyboards that suggest a word as you're typing it like if you start typing "thi" it will show you "thing" or something like that. I actually want a keyboard that will learn words that I type frequently and will suggest that word in future context.
For example if I type "I love that game", the next time I type "I", it will suggest "love" for my next word, then "that" after, etc. Before I updated to Windows Mobile 6.1, my keyboard actually used to do this, and I don't know which one installed that triggered this.
If I would type a word that I typed in the past then it would show the next word that I typed in the past next to it in a shadow color and I would just be able to hit the space bar to autocomplete that word. Does anybody know which keyboard that is? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Resco Keyboard - Touchpal 3.0
It will suggest words if you want and you can turn it off. It also allows you to change the format from one with multiple letters on one key to one letter per key.
Pretty good software.
addicus said:
Resco Keyboard - Touchpal 3.0
It will suggest words if you want and you can turn it off. It also allows you to change the format from one with multiple letters on one key to one letter per key.
Pretty good software.
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Thanks for the reply but unfortunately I have tried both of those and they don't do what I am looking for. I am looking for a keyboard that will not only suggest words but will learn words and sequences of words that I've used in the past.
Before I updated to Windows Mobile 6.1 it was doing this. I have a feeling it was from a keyboard that I installed but I can't identify which one it was.
For example, let's say I sent a text message to a friend that said "Dude, did you see that Chargers game on Sunday?". Then if I forgot to send it to another friend I can start a new text message and as soon as I type "Dude", it will suggest "did" as my next word, then "you" as the next word after that, then "see" after that and so forth. The next word in line would show up as shadowed grey text and I would just keep pressing the space bar to add those words to my text message automatically.
Does this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks!
Touchpal does this, you can even set the priority of new words it learns. Best SIP IMO.
Khalild said:
Touchpal does this, you can even set the priority of new words it learns. Best SIP IMO.
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Hmm, it still isn't doing what I want it to do unless I'm doing something wrong. Any other suggestions? Thanks!
It was installing the extra keyboards which removed this feature. I use block recognizer, and before I tried out a load of different SIP's, WM6.1 did this. I seem to recall that WM5 and WM6 did as well.
The TouchPAL DOES do that I dont know whats wrong with your phone. It is absolutely everything anyone would want or need in a keyboard IMO lol
I think what you asked is just the standard function from the simplest default microsoft keyboard comes with the original OS. Maybe you need to enable & customize it on Start >> Settings >> Personal >> Input.
By the way, the 'Gesture' function is another very useful character of the default ms keyboard. The gesture is used in this way: You need to silde your stylus, starting from the key you want and ending at the nabourgh key. Example: Slide stylus from s to w key, it will come up with capital S, s to a = backspace, s to d = space, s to x = enter, while only tap on s is just an letter s. Very useful function.
Edit: Please also refer to this thread:
Word Completion does not work!