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Extended power supply (plan).

Currently I have one of the 4 x AA battery extenders which copes not badly for the average day trip, but often means getting a set of extra batteries while travelling.
This can be a compete pain if I am travelling on a longer trip and and have a stop on a bus/train in some place where I was not staying long enough to buy currency, and they dont take cards.
So...
How about soldering a USB cable onto one of these (last row is the UK price).
6V 4.5Ah SLA L21AC 7.99
6V 10ah SLA UD07H 13.99
6V 12ah SLA UD08J 14.99
6V 7Ah SLA N33FR 1034 3.99
Remember the Ah rating is for 6v - so 5 times the equivalent of one 1.2v rechargeable AA or 4 times that of a 1.5v disposable.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ITAG=SPEC&ModuleNo=19363&doy=1m2#spec
The downside is they are obviously heavier, but have 3 times the capacity of standard rechargeables at under a kilo (but are small enough for the smallest side pocket on a rucsac).
The only downside is I dont know if they leak if battered.
Any suggestions/ideas?

wizardragon said:
The downside is they are obviously heavier, but have 3 times the capacity of standard rechargeables at under a kilo (but are small enough for the smallest side pocket on a rucsac).
The only downside is I dont know if they leak if battered.
Any suggestions/ideas?
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Have you thought about Li Ion or NiMh batteries, they give better performance, last longer and more importantly are lighter. I use them on a converted electric mountain bike......
Another option might be something like this...
Freeloader Portable Solar Charger
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?menuno=11936&FromMenu=y&doy=1m2&MenuName=Portable Energy Source
Specs say can run a PDA for 22hrs on its internal battery which is recharged by solar panels.
Good luck

Thanks
I had looked at the freeloader, but it does not really hold enough power as the battery drains at an alarming rate on trains or coaches as it tries to find cells, and using the net, playing music, keeping the display on, videos eats the battery power to much to make a freeloader viable on long journeys.
Also - a free loader is not really viable to get a recharge on a plane, or train or bus if not at the sunny window side.
However, could you recommend any larger capacity NiMh or Li ion batteries that don't break the bank?
Cheers

wizardragon said:
Thanks
Also - a free loader is not really viable to get a recharge on a plane, or train or bus if not at the sunny window side.
However, could you recommend any larger capacity NiMh or Li ion batteries that don't break the bank?
Cheers
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I take your point on both counts.
The Li-ion battery packs that I use on the bike are 36V 2Ah Bosch cordless power tool batteries. Perhaps the power tool battery option might be suitible, as batteries/chargers are readily available and you could get a cordless drill as a bonus.........

Thanks/
I have a Bosch cordless hammer drill and the battery fits under around and to the front of the grip, but its massive, probably heavier than my motorcycle battery too. The charger for it is also pretty big.
How did you drop the voltage to make it work to charge in a USB range, as wont the internal resitance of the PDA vary vastly depending upon which functions it is performing?
I had noticed maplins did battery boxes for projects and had thought about either a 4x or 8x of C or D batteries or a 4x or 5x, C or D cheapo Maglite clone just to use for the battery storage tube.
However the downside with C or D batteries is most of the rechargable ones dont hold much over 3Ah unless going into the heavy price range, although these are starting to fall.
Did you find any specific battery with a good shape/weight/price/capacity?

Portable Backup Power / Solar Power

Trying to find gadgets of the type "external portable power".
That is power sources that is light enough to carry in a backpack or pocket, and have a battery (or in my dreams a fuel cell...) that can be plugged into SGS mini usb port for "emergency" power.
Also of interest is solar powered solutions, maybe to charge said portable power device while relaxing at the beach.

I believe this is what you are looking for:
spider-foot. com/1900mah-extended-backup-battery-power-charger-for-cell-phones-with-micro-usb-charging-port-1900mic-p-759.html
Ive seen a solar + wind up one as well, but not sure how good that would work.

There are few micro usb backup battery packs. Some are sealed rechargeable batteries (like the one in above post) while others allows you to use standard AA size ones (these are good in an emergency).
But IMO better to have a spare battery. That way you don’t have to wait for the phone to charge, you get instant power. Since SGS s batteries are very small you can even carry one in your pocket.

Personally I'd prefer something that used AA/AAA batteries. That way I can carry LSD batteries, and I can use a proper conditioner/analyser/charger on them to keep them in decent condition. It also means the phone doesn't need to get turned off at any point - I find mine isn't great after a restart for quite a while. Finally very high quality batteries are not that expensive for AA/AAA and you know what you're getting, aftermarket mobile batteries can be a little bit risky and performance can vary.

I use a solution from Philips, it is called Power2Go. I use the SCE4430. Works great, only thing is that it does not support micro usb out of the box. But a standard micro usb cable does the trick. Used this also on a Nintendo DS.
http://www.philips.co.uk/c/universa...UNIVERSAL_POWER_SOLUTIONS_SU_GB_CONSUMER=true

[Q] Solar Charger
Hey guys,
First post here and it may end up costing me a bit soo..
Would it be possible to harvest one of these solar phone chargers you see on ebay and build it into the backplate of the phone?
I know it may not be powerful enough to charge your phone, but maybe we can extend the life when we just need those few extra hours.
So, really, does anyone know what we would need? I have little to know electronics experience so not sure what i'm looking for but i'm more than willing to actually do it if someone is able to explain what/how its done.

No, it's enough for you to charge a phone, even other more powerful device. But first of all you need a good solar cell.

i got one from DX it works fantastic!
4200mAh Portable Dual-Panel Solar Power Battery Pack for Cell Phones and USB Gadgets
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.40210
just leave it by any window, or light source and it turns it back into energy, then just plug your phone into the pack for recharge
you can easily recharge twice with a full charge
red light = charging
no light = off
green light = in use
comes with all the plugs for our phones
and a build in LED flashlight
it can also be charged via USB if you are in a hurry, and can't take advantage of the free light source recharge
i use it mostly for long outdooring like camping / picnics, and you know that even 3x1500 mAh will not last you for a day/week
you can get a full charge in just 1 day (from sun rise to sun down) even on a cloudy rainy sky

But what about physically attaching a panel to the back so I don't have to carry extra stuff? Is it possible? How would I wire it up?
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that works, but you wont be able to use the phone for like a whole day meanwhile waiting for it to charge, and be drained almost instantly

Have a look here>>>http://tinyurl.com/y2nrvsv
I have ordered one of these will do a small review when it arrives>>>http://tinyurl.com/2fun3k6

I have this traditional solution for emergency charging: http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/
They have Solar Charger, too.

that solar one from portable uk is okay, i only like the "bag" idea of it, but it's shy in power & recharge rate when competing againts the 4200 mAh beast from DX

mini/micro portable power pack
check this out
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320572770657&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
I have one, it has to be charge via usb, but I do that while I am on my laptop, and the bonus is that it will charge anything that connects via a mini/micro connection,

Applecrusher said:
But what about physically attaching a panel to the back so I don't have to carry extra stuff? Is it possible? How would I wire it up?
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And leave the phone under the sun ?? A very bad idea, the heat will surely damage your phone.

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And leave the phone under the sun ?? A very bad idea, the heat will surely damage your phone.
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Agreed
I don't think a little solar panel on the back of the phone will be capable of putting out that much power
I don't know about you but my phone spends most of its time inside my pocket so it is rarely out in the sun for the solar panel to work
Just carry a spare battery or get yourself the Samsung extended battery
mobilefun
.co.uk/genuine-samsung-galaxy-s-extended-battery-case-p25834.htm
It will extend your battery life without having to leave the phone lying in the sun

Solar charger for SGS and other mobiles.
Few days ago I was searching for the Solar charger for my SGS in India.In local stores I brought 2 solar chargers but these are the china made chargers with very low quality internal battery.
Then one of my friend suggest me the Amzer 3500 mAh Battery Backup Solar Charger and Solio Emergency Mono Solar Hybrid Charger.
I ordered the Amzer 3500 mAh Battery Backup Solar Charger and believe me, the charger is one of the essential accessory for every mobile phone.
Also this Charger is available in India, USA and UK regions.
For India, take a look at this, http://www.fommy.co.in/Amzer-3500-mAh-Battery-Backup-Solar-Charger-P83981.htm
For USA and UK, visit http://www.fommy.com/

the one i mentioned back in post #8 is way better and cheaper
and free shipping with tracking number
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actually i hv read all the backup power all u guys suggest but i found that these all are just rebranding some chinese low quality products and it cant survive for long and there r some potential hazard that may end up damaging our sgs...i hv tried solar charger and some portable backup power before, the solar charger dun hv a high efficiency to exchange solar energy to electrical energy...it takes me too long time to charge it and it can only recharge the battery once. for the backup power, the mAh thing is not accurate, u need to try it yourself n c how many cycles u can charge the stock battery in order to estimate the true backup power battery capacity

I love my PORTAPOW
Received it yesterday.
5000 mAH USB rechargeable battery in a piano black case.
Fantastic.
This means I can go out on an all-day hike with GPS on.(Yep, I'm that sad)
The phone battery would last 2- 2 1/2 hours max with GPS (and MyTracks or similar on) while hiking.
Really good build quality.
Really good price.
(PS I am in no way connected with the company etc...)
HTML:
http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/portapowPremium.htm

[Q] Did any one see Rechargeable External Battery Pack for Desire?

I find that iphone have an 2000mAh Rechargeable External Battery Pack that atached like a silicone case mix with car docking in Dealextreme see the link:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/2000ma...ack-for-all-ipod-iphone-2g-3g-3gs-black-32202
it look like it can be a good Accessorie for the desire but I can't find one like this for the Desire

since you are from israel.... you have got some kind of Energizer power pack it cost around 100 nis but it is not a good looking one but it is use-full

HI
Don't Know if it's still relevant but I bought PortaPow external battery charger, with 3000mah capacity. They also have cases that charge the phone, even with solar power - I loved them a lot.
A bit more expensive, but worth it in my opinion.
http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/usbliionbatterypack.htm
Dan

looks usefull !
thanx for the link

I just ordered mine, it should recharge my Desire 3 times.
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=5330&t_mode=des

One thing you guys might be overlooking is that the sated capacity for most of these power packs is at the batteries 3.7v. The unit then has to turn the 3.7v to 5.5v which will mean the actually mah you will get out of the device to your phone will be lower.
Still useful though if your battery dies!
Phil

Im in the process of making something simular, it wont be pretty but it will do the job.
I have ordered a 4x "C" Cell battery holder, that I will wire to a USB cable.
I have a few C Cell 3000mAh rechargables @1.2v each.
1.2x4=4.8V. I figure, this should be close enough to provide power into the desire.
It wont be pretty, but it should charge the battery of the phone a few times when im out for a few days
Total cost will be way less than the cost of the ones you buy.

Thanks for the links. Still deciding which one to get. Anyone have any experiences with the above?

solar or ac charged backup battery for all devices

i just ordered 2 of these. i like the idea plus they are solar and charge all my gadgets on top of my phone. and shipping from china is 22 for dhl but they are worth it and are the size or smaller than our phone! holds almost twice the charge with multiple voltages including 3.7v which is ours.
Total was around $52 after shipping but just sell one or keep the other for twice as much! ill repost this link in thread.
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/solar-battery-charger-for-mobile-phones-and-mini-usb-devices/

Post a review when you get a chance.
Thank you.
What voltages does it support?
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It is really a wonderful item, actually this solar charged Product not the advanced idea now, China offers such kind of things since long before. I have bought a solar mobile power rechargeable battery pack for my iPhone 3 since last year, which cost about $20, and now Pickegg sold at the price of $11.14, the prices are much softer at present. There are many other large online stores like Pickegg offers such kind of things, however, maybe no better price than Pickegg.

Manufacturer Specifications
Main Function: Solar battery charger for portable electronics with LED flashlight
Designed for Charging: Mobile Phones, digital cameras, PDA's, MP3 players, MP4 players
Built in LED flashlight: 3 Powerful white LED lights (20 hours life on full battery)
Battery
- Type: Rechargeable lithium battery
- Capacity: 2600mAh
- Output Voltage: 3.7v, 4.2v, 5.5v, 9v
- Output Current: 400-800mAh
Solar Panel: Monocrystalline silicon panel
LED Indicators:
- Battery status (25 %, 50%, 75%, 100%)
- USB connection
- Solar charging
Input / Output / Buttons:
- Voltage switch: 3.7v, 4.2v, 5.5v, 9v
- Power IN / OUT / LED switch
- 3 White LED lights for flashlight
- Mini USB
Included Adapters: 5 total. Mini USB, Nokia, Sony-Ericsson, and Samsung (some models)
Dimensions (mm): 127 (L) 82 (W) 13 (H)
Certifications: RoHS, FCC, CE
Manufacturer Ref: KDSH4HDF93JJ0
Ill post a review asap. they shipped already. should be where within the week. the LED light seems like a cool extra too.
I'll never lose cell power backpacking again!

also the reason i got this one was because of the capacity, almost twice the capacity of the G2x's battery compared to similar priced ones which were all less that 1500ma. in terms of price verses capacity/functionality this was the best i could find. plus it fits in my pocket (looks like the size of the G2x).

Solar battery charger
alright. i got the solar battery charger and on the box it says voltages above as stated. but the device has switches for output in 4.5, 5.5, 6.5, 9v800ma voltage options and so does its little 2 page manual. so appears to be advertised incorrectly, though all places ive seen this exact item the specs are all listed this way. exact picture and everything.
now it also says 5.5v has the widest range of compatibility (found this statement on another site for same device.) The box says like this (EXACT picture of this device but just in silver) --> " Output Voltage: 3.7v 4.2v, 5.5v, 9v, generally 5.5v, multiplicate output ports optionable"
Our g2x stock charger is 4.8v and any usb is 5.0v which. our stock batteries say 3.7v them. research said that 3.7v charge to 4.2v generally as "top off" surface charge which drains quickly down to 3.8v. now i have an adapter for LG phones (micro usb) that is from my multi charger kit i bought separate, of which has the exact same adapters as this battery charger came with, just had an extra for LG. they looks so similar that i feel safe assuming they came from the same factory.
now all that said, i've read the too high of voltage will ruin battery or shorten life. i know 4.5v will work but will charge slower than stock charger and usb. so my question is will 5.5v be ok to charge the G2x?
these have to be the same device. but both boxes had this. and both devices were different than box and online. but the picture on the box is literally the same device. not a single difference. i need some input. i pretty positive 5.5v will work. perhaps 5.5v has those options and 4.5,6.5,9v800ma are extras? or (crazy) this thing has a 1v difference from here and china. 4 options, all but 9v are around 1v difference?

Well, with voltages you generally have what... 10% play each way? Question is 10% from 4.8 or 5.0? Personally, I would stick with the 4.5.
And the 5.5 might not even charge faster because a big factor in charging time is current which is rated 200 mA less than the wall charger. Not an EE major. Any EE's out there?
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I got a Solio Classic iGo. It is solid and is perfect for emergencies. Especially since I go camping alot. haha

So how did you end up liking your solar charger?

I saw your post, What did you decide to use as the voltage setting and how did it work for you?
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These don't work very well and they get worse over time.
Solar energy sucks i use solar car charger to charge and lead acid battery and even that don't work very well.
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External USB batteries

Has anyone tried any of the external battery solutions available out there? I've read that the Kensington one is good, but it's only like 1200-1400 mAh !
I've run across a few on Ebay that are running 4000-5000 mAh - great for multiple charges!
Anyone have any feedback on any of these?

I have used a few different ones over time. I currently have an Energizer pack with a 4000mAh capacity.
I recently saw a a 40,000mAh pack at Radio Shack for around $120. I almost bought it, just on general principles.
Anyway, yes, the portable packs do work well. But remember that the mAh capacity of the pack doesn't translate 1:1 to charging capacity. The battery in the pack is only a single 3.7v LiPo cell, and the battery in your phone is ALSO a single 3.7v LiPo cell. These packs use a switching regulator to boost the output voltage, which means that the cell will be discharged faster than you might think. If you want to fully charge the battery in the Triumph, you should try to find something with at least 2000mAh capacity.
One of the more interesting solutions I've seen at the Sprint store was an integrated charger. It had a USB jack, a short micro-USB cable, and an AC adapter all built-in. So you could basically use the thing as a USB wall charger, then unplug it and take it with you when you expect to need a little extra juice on the road.
Personally, I'd like to see more portable Lithium-based packs that can also put out 12v for larger devices. Ideally, I'd love to be able to power my phone and a portable speaker system all from a single battery pack. Perhaps someone will get smart and build a box to house and adapt the 2-cell rechargeable packs used by RC car enthusiasts...

I purchased a 1500mah Anker battery off Amazon for $15. Works great!! Much better than 1380mah stock battery
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this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1500mAh...2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1316908026&sr=1-2

anker do make external battery, i have one this ,5600mAh, very handy!
seems like have a 10$ off now, it's 39.99$! damn, i purchase with full price 49.99