I was reading through some posts, yesterday, where it was mentioned there is a ROM on the FTP already with the Big Storage hack, so essentially you just flash the lot. I've been reading how to do Big Storage, need it as want to put Voice Command in Storage (won't work off mem card, no space on phone mem) and the room I have at moment on Storage about 5mb says not enough room.
Is there a pre-cooked up Rom anywhere ? How hard is it exactly to do the thing yourself, when I keep reading it, its completely over my head.
Hi,
try the magician wiki, link upper right on the board. It's all explained there with a shippe-rom as a basis. Or go for the sd-flash method, there's a nice 1.13 on the ftp -) mine).
Instructions:
- download the 1.13BS rom from the ftp
- get ntrw.exe from the ftp
- Download romupdate from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=7510- Download the Hexeditor from:
http://www.hhdsoftware.com/hexeditor.html
- get a SD-card > 64MB
- make backup of everything you want to keep from your magician & SD-card. everything will be wiped!!
- fully charge your magician
- uncheck usb connection in Act.sync on your PC
- put your magician in Bootloader (camera & power & soft-reset at the same time for a few seconds) wait till screen fades & reads 'serial v1.0x'. Screen is very dark since backlight is of.
- connect usb, now the screen reads 'usb v1.0x'
- start romupgrade on your pc
- pick the magician connection in the listbox, wces something I belief
- now a screen pops up
- type d2s in this screen
- follow progress on pc & magician
- wait till checksum finishes
- get SD from the magician & put it into a cardreader. DON'T FORMAT!!!
- put ntrw in C:\
- start a command window
- type on commandline: ntrw read myrom.nb1 [sd driveletter]:
- follow progress
- error at the end is normal
- make a copy of myrom.nb1
- open myrom.nb1 & the BS rom with the hexeditor & replace the first 416 Bytes of the BS rom with the first 416 bytes of myrom.nb1 & save it to mybs.nb1
- type on commandline: ntrw write mybs.nb1 [sd driveletter]:
error at the end is normal
- put the SD in your magician
- now it should read 'press power to flash'
- press the power button
- watch it reaches 100% - checksum will always fail
- reset & hopefully enjoy the new rom
Cheers, M
After "watch it reaches 100% - checksum will always fail " , I reseted but the Magician not restart.
Please tell me How Can I Fix this problem.
Big thanks
Download a shipped-rom from the ftp. Put the device in bootloader, connect usb (magician should read USB now). Then start the shipped-rom.
Regards, M
i need a magician rom
i have tmob rom update is that enuff? i have to edit it dont i
Yes you need to edit it according to the wiki description. Though on the ftp is an edited NK.nbf available in ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]_NK.nbf/BIG_Storage_nk_for_rom_1.13WWE.zip
Cheers, M
i need a magician rom
thank you thank you... the hex editor wont open the file i created and i was drawing near to the bin. then i heard my yahoo. you have saved a mint condition t mob compact with grey facia from recycleing. i will send you an update when i install the rom
i need a magician rom
i got the rom ntrw to sd card... done
reset, pwr, camera .... i get serial v1.02
i am follwoing the big storage route. how do i get nk,nbf ontophone?
this is fun even tho i may mess up the phone
Yup you're mixing things up ;-) The nk.nbf on the ftp belongs to this method http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade in which you do a shipped-rom update to BIG Storage.
The ntrw & SD-card method is described here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianSDflash & needs another rom image.
Read it once again pls & don't hesitate to react when it's still unclear. The wiki descriptions can still be improved.
M
i am completly lost
i have big storage rom from ftp but the method 2 put it on the phone doesnt wok with me. i tr putting it into boot loader mode but i just get serial or usb and when i put in the card nothing happens is it my 1gb sdcard. how do i get it onto the phone. i aint going sleep till its done. i may be tired, that could be the prob
still no joy
type on commandline: ntrw write mybs.nb1 {sd driveletter) ... i get here and it says write fail parameter is incorrect. also in hex editor the max filesize is nearly 1gb like my memory card. i am going for a quick nap now to rest up. will be back on it later. will post results when i get back to it
One question: did you transfer the first 416 bytes of your own rom-dump over the first 416 bytes of the downloaded rom image?
If you've dumped your own rom on an sd & wrote it to your pc with:
ntrw read myrom.nb1 <sd drive>
then do not format the sd when you put it into your card-reader & yes the image written to your pc will be the same size as your sd.
Complete instructions begin to end:
- download the 1.13BS rom from the ftp
- Download the Hexeditor from the ftp
- get ntrw.exe from the ftp
- get romupdate http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=7510
- get a SD-card > 64MB
- make backup of everything you want to keep from your magician & SD-card. everything will be wiped!!
- fully charge your magician
- uncheck usb connection in Act.sync on your PC
- put your magician in Bootloader (camera & power & soft-reset at the same time for a few seconds) wait till screen fades & reads 'serial v1.0x'. Screen is very dark since backlight is of.
- connect usb, now the screen reads 'usb v1.0x'
- start romupgrade on your pc
- pick the magician connection in the listbox, wces something I belief
- now a screen pops up
- type d2s in this screen
- follow progress on pc & magician
- wait till checksum finishes
- get SD from the magician & put it into a cardreader. DON'T FORMAT!!!
- put ntrw in C:\
- start a command window
- type on commandline: ntrw read myrom.nb1 [sd driveletter]:
- follow progress
- error at the end is normal
- make a copy of myrom.nb1
- open myrom.nb1 & the BS rom with the hexeditor & replace the first 416 Bytes of the BS rom with the first 416 bytes of myrom.nb1 & save it to mybs.nb1
- type on commandline: ntrw write mybs.nb1 [sd driveletter]:
error at the end is normal
- put the SD in your magician
- now it should read 'press power to flash'
- press the power button
- watch it reaches 100% - checksum will always fail
- reset & hopefully enjoy the new rom
Hope this helps, M
big storage
great i have now got to the stage where i put the sd into the magician but it still says serial v1.02 theres no press power. any tips
When the message isn't shown, your image isn't recognized. So either the ntrw write failed or you formatted the sd & ntrw wrote the image after the MBR. The image should be written right at the start of the sd over the MBR. You can solve it by dumping your current ro again, put the sd in your card reader don't format [\b] & write tge BIG Storage image with ntrw to your sd. The romdump destroyes the mbr & ntrw should write the image at the correct place. Now the bootloader should recognize your image.
Remember you don't need to save your dump to your PC this time.
M
i am nearl there
i have finally got the rom flashing from my sd card to the phone. i guess this is gonna work if i did everything poperly. why isnt there a fingers crossed emoticon
oh no
well it didnt work. i must have pasted the hex when i should have replaced the 416bytes. i am now flashing t mob web n walk and will try again
big storage aint going well
do i replace the 416bytes from te mda copact rem with the ftp one...? or the other way round. the how to says paste the 416 from ftp on top of mda one and the earlier post says the other way. isnt there a big storage tmob uk rom patched and ready to ntrw? my missus is upset at me fiddlin with the "phone" all night
Is your phone still booting normally after this trial & error or :--(
M
big storage
i am back at it with ny 512mb card took me all night to find it. update will follow shortly.
big storage
where do i get the big storage nb1 from? i keep getting an nbf file. could this be where i am going wrong
Hi,
an idea - when you flash your ROM for example with offical updaters, you don't use any SD card - they write the ROM directly to device's memory, right? If so..Is there any way to do it in oposite way? Directly copy the ROM to PC HDD without using a SD card? It should be possible, reading is almost always easier than writing .
Ok, help yourself I found bootloader command rbmc:
Usage:
rbmc [FileName [StartAddr [Len]]]
Read back the memory content from the specified address to the host
and save the data to specified file name.
FileName : Full file path for save data of memory(default=c:\temp\Mem.nb).
StartAddr : Start address of memory(default(hex)=A0000000).
Len : How many bytes will be read. And if not given value, it will be
Total ROM size on board - ((StartAddress & 0x0FFFFFFF) - (ROM base address(0) & 0x0FFFFFFF)).
But this command is locked - I need password I guess, when I try to use it it writes on terminal:
USB>rbmc c:\ROM.bin 80000000 04000000
Command is Locked!
USB>
Any ideas?
Yes, i've got it. Finnaly you can backup/restore your ROM without SD card ^^. Here's it.
TO BACKUP:
-Download itsutils (http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/tools.html).
-Startup your MDA to Windows.
-On your computer run: 'pmemdump 0x80000000 0x04000000 rom.nb'. This will save your ROM to your HDD to file rom.nb.
TO RESTORE:
-You'll have to divide your rom.nb to pieces to mc_.nbf, nk.nbf and radio.nbf. Find exact procedure elsewhere.
-Download official update tool.
-Extract it to some place eg. c:\temp\.
-Push there your *.nbf files.
-Download 'fixed' MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe which won't ask about country IDs, no language problems etc. But most important is the fact it CAN BE RUN IN BOOTLOADER. (ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Tools/MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip)
-Put it into your c:\temp.
-Run it & enjoy
Well most critical section in my procedure is dividing rom.nb to those 3 files, because I didn't try it . It should work.
In ftp site are three ROM posted :
750v:34 MB
TREOCINGULAR: 16,4MB
treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip:34 MB
Now i have a Vodafone Rom in italian languadge , the ROM posted are in english?
what are the difference trough the posted ROM'S ?
How can update my Treo ?
Kindest regards
Uccio
Try checking the treo wiki and read through everything before trying to perform the rom upgrade. Remember that a simple mistake can and might render your device useless.
How to!
zerimar said:
Try checking the treo wiki and read through everything before trying to perform the rom upgrade. Remember that a simple mistake can and might render your device useless.
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"Insert the reader w/card into your USB, after the PC recognizes the card right click on the drive letter. Select Format from the options and make sure FAT32 is selected as the file system then select start.
Also, you need to copy the files to the memory card one at a time; DIAG file first and then delete the DIAG prior to loading the IMG file second.
Step 1:
-Copy the ‘CheeDIAG.nbh’ file to the root directory of a miniSD card. Note: Windows Mobile recognizes updates only from FAT32 formatted cards.
-Insert the card into the device.
-Press and hold both the PTTApp Button (lowest button on left side of device) + Pin Reset (next to miniSD card slot). You will be prompted to press the ‘End’ (red power) key to start the update. This step takes only a few seconds to complete. Once the flash is done, you will see: ‘Model ID: Palm Treo 750’ displayed by the device.
Step 2:
-Copy the ‘CHEEIMG.nbh’ file to the root directory of a miniSD card. Note: Windows Mobile recognizes updates only from FAT32 formatted cards.
-Insert the card into the device.
-Press and hold both the PTTApp Button (lowest button on left side of device) + Pin Reset (next to miniSD card slot). You will be prompted to press the ‘End’ (red power) key to start the update. This step takes about 5 minutes to complete.
-Hard reset the device once the device indicates the upgrade has been completed. To hard-reset, hold the ‘End’ (red power) key while pressing the pin reset button. Answer “yes” to “Erase all data” prompt.
Step 3:
Verify the device software via the device <start><settings><system tab><about><phone tab> The device should display firmware version on the resulting screen."
Good luck!
excuse me for asking,but there`s no file called ‘CheeDIAG.nbh’ or `CHEEIMG.nbh’ in files that are in the /Cheetah/Dumped_ROMs/ folder!
750v:34 MB consists of 3 .RAW files(What to do with them?)
treo750vrompartial_bcaslis with .RAW files inside,also
Treo750v_Dump_Cingular_ROM.zip with .dll`s mostly
Did I understand something wrong....?
Any help
THX in advance!
Roms
There are NO installable roms on the FTP!
The usable one is in the possesion of forum members.
Palm and/or Cingular asked politely ;-)) to remove them.
So you have to wait untill the new rom will be released later this month
i didn`t have time till now to wiew all the posts about this phone,and only now I saw that still there aren`t ROMS available.
If anyone has a ROM or a link for it,pls PM me!
THX in advance!
So i try to upgrade my rom with an official tmobile rom, i've got the mda mini, and it didn't work, it stopped midway saying that an error occur while upgrading the radio stack, now i try different rom, different download of the same different rom, nothing seem to work, it alway stop at 20% of the radio upgrade and tell me that an error occur and that i have to reboot my device and try again, i search many hours on the forum to see the same problem, but i found nothing, is my mda dead, i kinda like it very much, so small, so cute with a winamp skin on the player it was putting a shame to every i pod i know off,
please I'm begging you, help me revive my poor Mda, i even bought a bluetooth stereo head set just for it, too enhance the ipod killer theme.... tell me i didn't do this for nothing !!!!
thank you
I guess it's realy dead
oky, no more chance for this poor mda,
I will have the ceremony down tonignt then i will burn it and spreed the ashes over internet.
Sigiel said:
oky, no more chance for this poor mda,
I will have the ceremony down tonignt then i will burn it and spreed the ashes over internet.
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Bad news, my PDA likes yours, it cannot flash any rom now...
It's possible to revive them...but you'll need a special SD Card Image ROM...
Google a little bit about .nbh images, SD Rom Boot images, etc.
Once you have this special SD Card ROM Boot image prepared, you put it on the phone, put the phone in bootloader mode (camera + power + reset),and check the screen: - a message will appear telling you to "press power to flash", and you do it. Let it flash and reboot.
Magician revived.
Best Regards,
Keeper
Keeper said:
It's possible to revive them...but you'll need a special SD Card Image ROM...
Google a little bit about .nbh images, SD Rom Boot images, etc.
Once you have this special SD Card ROM Boot image prepared, you put it on the phone, put the phone in bootloader mode (camera + power + reset),and check the screen: - a message will appear telling you to "press power to flash", and you do it. let it flash and reboot.
Magician revived.
Best Regards,
Keeper
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The file header of the SD Card ROM must be the same of my magician ROM, isn't it? Now the problem is I can't get the header of my magician ROM, when I use "d2s" command the magician dead.
Well i don't quite get what you mean by "header of Magician ROM"....i assume that you are refering to the bootloader...what version do you have? Does it says 1.2 or 1.0? Have you tried to flash a different bootloader from a different model or something?
Anyway, I don't quite get what is your problem exactly - Is it with the Radio part or windows part? Does the WM2003se boots or not ?
- If your problem is only with the WM2k3 not booting, then you must upgrade only with a ROM image for the OS (nk.nbf) - (Try and use an original ROM first...don't you use cooked ROMs.)
- If it's both WM2K3 and radio, then you need to put the nk.nbf and radio_.nbf on the same directory where the MaUpgradeUt.exe is.
- If you also want to upgrade your Extended ROM, then beside both files mentioned, you also need to have the ms_.nbf.
Anyway, regarding the radio part: try this: google for "MagicianRadio_1.13.00_maupgrade"
Finally: don't forget that you need to download and use the "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe" or the magician will complain about the country code error + some BS.
Best Regards,
Keeper
I heard that the front 416 bytes of SD card ROM image must be the same as the PDA, and then can falsh it. The front 416 bytes of every PDA ROM are different, so I must get my magician ROM header (416B), but I cannot.
My magician can boot, but cannot be flashed a new rom. The error code returned to me is "Get Device Data Error".
btw, the bootloader is v1.02, how can I reflash a new bootloader? I don't know how to do that, maybe it can resolve the problem.
Forget about changing the bootloader - you could end up with a brick on your hands...besides, that's the latest (final?) version of the bootloader for magicians.
Anyway, that message seems to be related to usb data transfer between your pc and your phone...you DID disabled the "Allow USB Connections" on ActiveSync BEFORE TRYING to do an upgrade, didn't you?
If you use windows Vista, there's a known problem when trying to flash a new ROM with it...
check this link on how to use vista for ROM upgrades: http://mahmood1.com/upgrade_pocket_pc_ruu_in_vista.aspx
Best Regards,
Keeper
My system is Windows XP, thank you all the same.
Okey, try this:
1) Download this image: http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/media/download/MA_TMNL_11300_132_11200_Ship.exe
(It's an original image from T-Mobile).
2) Extract the .exe content using winrar.
You will get the following files:
- EnterBL.exe
- GetDeviceData.exe
- RUU.dll
- RUU.conf
- UI.dll
- ROMUpgradeUt.exe
- nk.nbf
- ms_.nbf
- radio_.nbf
3) Delete the ms_.nbf, radio_.nbf and ROMUpgradeUt.exe files.
4) donwload this file: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Magician/Tools/MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe ...and put it on the above directory.
5) disable ActiveSync "allow usb connections".
6) put your phone in bootloader mode
7) run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe and let it finish. (It may take some time...)
8) hard reset your phone.
Now, if you want to try to upgrade just the radio, repeat the above steps but delete the nk.nbf from that directory and and put a radio_.nbf there.
NOTE: You WILL loose everything that you've got stored on your phone...contacts, sms, etc...so do a backup 1st if you want.
Regards,
Keeper
It not worked. The RUU.log is this:
00:01:01:890 [msg] : Version : [1.5.0].
00:01:01:890 [msg] : Config Info : [776571],[1],[1],[0].
00:01:01:890 [msg] : RadioFile Not Exist !
00:01:01:890 [msg] : MSystemFile Not Exist !
00:01:05:703 [msg] : Current Not in CE Mode or in CE Mode but ActiveSync Not Connected.
00:01:09:828 [msg] : Disconnect ActiveSync .... [2]
00:01:09:968 [msg] : Current in BL Mode. Open Port : [\\.\WCEUSBSH001] OK.
00:02:48:281 [err] : BL Get Device Data Error.
00:02:48:281 [msg] : Update Image. CE : [4], MSystem : [0], Radio : [0]
I clicked "Upgrade" and it displayed "checking the information of your device..."...
Okey...the only way i see it, is to try an SD Card Upgrade.
I can try and craft you an image for your SD Card but i don't know if it will work on your SD Card... What's the size(s) of your SD Card (s)?
I don't want to e-mail you 1Gb image (i only have 1 and 2Gb SD Cards) and has so i need to do this ( http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=41 )...which i've never tried...so let's hope that the SD Card header won't be a problem...
Anyway, i can't do it now...i'll pm you later on, when i get some free time.
Regards,
Keeper
Thank you.
I have a 2 GB SD Card, but it didn't work, I think the reason maybe the header of the SD Card Image not modified. But I cannot get the header of my PDA.
Okey, here we go.
Do this:
1) Download this Emergency SD Card image: http://rapidshare.com/files/56985459/Emergency_SD_Card_Image.rar.html
2) Download the NTRW in attachment
3) Format your SD Card using windows XP format option
4) Copy both files (ntrw.exe and SDCard.img) to your C:\
5) Open a dos command prompt and type: ntrw write SDCard.img <sd card reader drive letter>
( do note that <sd card reader drive letter> must be replaced with your own SD card reader drive letter...example: "ntrw write SDCard.img e:". Also do note that when writing to the SD Card, some errors might appear...ignore them...the image is/will be there in your SD Card)
6) Put your phone in bootloader mode
7) Connect the usb cable or power cord to your phone (This is a MUST! or you won't see the next step)
8) Insert the SD Card on your phone and check if the screen message changes to something like " Press power to flash "
9) Do has told: press the power button and WAIT! (if it seems to stop, leave it that way...it will eventually end the upgrade)
10) Hard reset your phone when the upgrade ends.
Note 1: This SD image and procedure was tested on my phone and it works. The image itself is an original T-Mobile ROM 1.13.
Tell me how it went.
Best Regards,
Keeper
Happy to hear you again. But I cannot download the image. I will try.
I do this step by step, but after I inserted the SD Card on my phone, the screen message didn't change, it was "USB V1.02", if I disconnected the usb cable, it changed to "Serial V1.02".
It can't be...This image is in perfect shape. you must be doing something wrong or your bootloader is damaged seriously...
check this out:
- Your USB cable must be connected to your PC and ALSO to the Magician.
- Check if ActiveSync USB option is disabled.
- If both of the above are true, leave the SD Card inside the mini, and press camera + power + reset button again...(i've read that sometimes the process doesn't work at the first time...)
- Try to disconnect and connect the USB cable from your magician, with the SD Card inserted on the phone...check is the message on the screen changes...
Please post what you have tried already...
If nothing works, that means that your bootloader is f* up. You'll have to wait a little bit more so to give me time to check how to prepare an SD image (or an alternative way) for upgrading your bootloader.
Keeper
It not worked.
I just did as what you said. If I pressed camera + power + reset button with the SD Card inside, the screen was not changed even if I connected / disconnected the usb cable; but if I pressed camera + power + reset button without the SD Card inside, and inserted SD Card under bootloader mode, the screen can change from "USB" to "Serial", but I didn't see " Press power to flash ".
I think my Magician bootloader was corrupted, because the screen showed nothing after I typed "d2s" in MTTY. But I don't know how to upgrate bootloader.
Thank you very much.
Now I find a new problem: I couldn't delete some fonts files stored in "/storage/fonts", even if I hard reset PDA. After I setup a new font named QooQooCN, I cannot uninstall it, seems wince.nls running. But I still cannot delete /storage/fonts/*.ttf files. Why? If this is the reason why I cannot reflash my PDA?
Need help.
Coly, here it is the 1.02 bootloader from my device. Put it on your formated sd card like explained previously. Reboot in bootloader mode with the sd card inserted and with the USB cable connected...see if now you can get the "press power to flash"
If it still doesn't work, we will have to crack the passwords for the bootloader debug mode.
anyway, post your results, please.
Keeper