Question Is Smart Switch enough for backup when unlocking the bootloader? - Samsung Galaxy A52 4G

Hello there,
I want to unlock the bootloader. I need to backup my data first. Is Smart Switch enough or there is another way I should do it? Thanks.

AtillaHun said:
Hello there,
I want to unlock the bootloader. I need to backup my data first. Is Smart Switch enough or there is another way I should do it? Thanks.
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yeah smart switch is enough to unlock the bootloader but it will only work on samsung ROM. If you flash another ROM like pixel experience or lineageOS, then smart switch won't work.

barryallen3038 said:
yeah smart switch is enough to unlock the bootloader but it will only work on samsung ROM. If you flash another ROM like pixel experience or lineageOS, then smart switch won't work.
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I will install TWRP after unlocking the bootloader, than I will root with Magisk and then I will flash another ROM. Will there be any problem in one of these processes about data? Thanks for the answer.

AtillaHun said:
I will install TWRP after unlocking the bootloader, than I will root with Magisk and then I will flash another ROM. Will there be any problem in one of these processes about data? Thanks for the answer.
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Well, yes, you have to wipe your data when installing twrp or flashing another rom. You can't restore data with smart switch if you install another ROM.
Smart switch will only work if you install a samsung rom like RayOS or magisk patched stock.
And, just to clarify, you are supposed to install magisk AFTER flashing ROM not before.

Backup with SmartSwitch, install twrp and magisk, reboot, restore with smartswitch.
Now install a root backup app like swift backup und make your backups again in the app.
You can now flash any ROM you like and restore what ever you want.
Btw: don't forget a nand in twrp.

Thank your for your answer, the other mister said that I should install Magisk after flashing the ROM. Should I do it before or after? Again thanks.

Magisk after ROM flashing. Backup with a root backup app of course afterwards. You need to ne root first.

Now I get it. Thanks a lot.

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[Q] Backup without Root/Unlocked Bootloader

Hi I want to unlock the bootloader and root my phone, but before I am doing this I want to make a backup(for the case that i need to take the warranty).Its called Nandroid Backup. How can I do this without root access and so on?
CyBeR54 said:
Hi I want to unlock the bootloader and root my phone, but before I am doing this I want to make a backup(for the case that i need to take the warranty).Its called Nandroid Backup. How can I do this without root access and so on?
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unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery. it might be possible to make a backup without root, and without unlocking the bootloader with adb(bit not sure).
What Simms said.
Just unlock, flash twrp or whatever...and nandroid.
Then you're covered. It takes 10 minutes to flash stock firmware if you're worried about ota's.
There's no better way to get a complete backup.
Wait, if you unlock the bootloader you'll wipe the device. Try helium backup before you unlock.
Sent from my Nexus 5
jd1639 said:
Wait, if you unlock the bootloader you'll wipe the device. Try helium backup before you unlock.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Lol. Great point!
I just assumed he wanted a fresh backup of stock. But yeah.....forgot to mention unlocking wipes the SD.
jd1639 said:
Wait, if you unlock the bootloader you'll wipe the device. Try helium backup before you unlock.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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True, however OP wants a backup for warranty purposes which leads me to thinking he wants a system dump.
However, if that's the case it's pointless as it would be rooted. Also all the factory images are officially available from google so it isn't a concern.
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CyBeR54 said:
Hi I want to unlock the bootloader and root my phone, but before I am doing this I want to make a backup(for the case that i need to take the warranty).Its called Nandroid Backup. How can I do this without root access and so on?
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You don't need to do that with a Nexus. Google puts out factory images if you ever need to go back to stock.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#hammerhead
Link to the aforementioned factory images.
CyBeR54 said:
Hi I want to unlock the bootloader and root my phone, but before I am doing this I want to make a backup(for the case that i need to take the warranty).Its called Nandroid Backup. How can I do this without root access and so on?
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as mentioned before, you must flash a custom recovery for a "nandroid backup".
yes, you can backup apps and their data and sdcard with adb commands, no need for rooting or unlocking bootloader...
follow this.
Thank you guys your comments helped me much :good: :laugh:

[Q] Root lost

I recently updated to the xnph05q update and my root access is loss. I can root it again ofcourse but my question is that do i have to unlock the bootloader again? Is there a way to check if my bootloader is still unlocked? I am asking this because then of course i have to go through a long procedure to back up all my data as ofcourse unlocking the bootloader is going to wipe my phone. Thanx in advance.
flameonfzn said:
I recently updated to the xnph05q update and my root access is loss. I can root it again ofcourse but my question is that do i have to unlock the bootloader again? Is there a way to check if my bootloader is still unlocked? I am asking this because then of course i have to go through a long procedure to back up all my data as ofcourse unlocking the bootloader is going to wipe my phone. Thanx in advance.
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Your boot loader won't be locked again. Can you access your custom recovery (TWRP/CWM etc)? If so you just need to flash a SuperSU zip to get root back. If you lost your custom recovery, you can just flash one again, although you will need to connect to a PC to do this.
If you've lost your custom recovery, just use a toolkit like the one below to install one. You can then reboot to recovery and flash a supersu zip (download one first from here http://download.chainfire.eu/212/SuperSU/). You won't loose any data.
Toolkit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/oneplus-one-toolkit-manudroid19-gui-t2807418
Okay let me just check if i still have twrp and i'll get back at you. Thanks for replying so fast
gsmyth said:
Your boot loader won't be locked again. Can you access your custom recovery (TWRP/CWM etc)? If so you just need to flash a SuperSU zip to get root back. If you lost your custom recovery, you can just flash one again, although you will need to connect to a PC to do this
Toolkit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/oneplus-one-toolkit-manudroid19-gui-t2807418
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Well TWRP was still there so i just flashed the supersu zip which was in my storage from previous installation. And there is root access again. Thanx a ton bro.
flameonfzn said:
Well TWRP was still there so i just flashed the supersu zip which was in my storage from previous installation. And there is root access again. Thanx a ton bro.
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Great no problem, nice and easy one! :highfive:

To ROOT or not to ROOT

So I have already installed TWRP, and want to install a ROM. My question is, should i root prior to flashing a new ROM in order to run Ti Backup? If so, what root method should I use?
TIA
treams said:
So I have already installed TWRP, and want to install a ROM. My question is, should i root prior to flashing a new ROM in order to run Ti Backup? If so, what root method should I use?
TIA
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You Magisk.
ok so i already loaded magisk 13 on my external sd and when i try to install from zip in twrp it fails. something new to dig into i guess.
The custom ROMS you install will be rooted already. Doesn't matter if you root before install of custom ROM.
treams said:
So I have already installed TWRP, and want to install a ROM. My question is, should i root prior to flashing a new ROM in order to run Ti Backup? If so, what root method should I use?
TIA
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You rooted it when you installed twrp. Installing supersu or magisk gives YOU a way to interact with root.
Beamed in by telepathy.
To ROOT or not to ROOT
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that's not even a question, it's a birth right of the phone,
you are losing out a lot if you don't root your phone.
just Titanium Backup alone is more than enough reason to root a phone.
being able to edit build.prop is another great reason
being able to install adaway is like a must
being able to... customize your phone and do anything you want to it is priceless.
If you've rooted, then you've unlocked the bootloader, so Android Pay won't work unless you use Magisk anyway. Titanium Backup is great, and I use it, but the bottom line is that once you've unlocked the bootloader you basically *have* to root to recover full functionality of the device for those apps that refuse to run otherwise.
hgoldner said:
If you've rooted, then you've unlocked the bootloader, so Android Pay won't work unless you use Magisk anyway. Titanium Backup is great, and I use it, but the bottom line is that once you've unlocked the bootloader you basically *have* to root to recover full functionality of the device for those apps that refuse to run otherwise.
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Lol, never really thought of it, but yes, you have to make your device a little more unsecured in order to use secure apps. Kind of a catch 22. Gotta love it.
jsaxon2 said:
Lol, never really thought of it, but yes, you have to make your device a little more unsecured in order to use secure apps. Kind of a catch 22. Gotta love it.
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For sure, especially coming from a company whose motto is "Don't be evil."
hgoldner said:
once you've unlocked the bootloader you basically *have* to root to recover full functionality of the device for those apps that refuse to run otherwise.
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You can run a custom kernel that masks unlocked bootloader status without rooting.

Confused about root

This thread is not about "How do I install twrp" etc. But maybe this can help some of us.
I got a question. If I install twrp and root, am I still able to install system updates? For example, oxygen 5.1.6 comes out. How do I install it?
Have a nice day!
Sconny said:
This thread is not about "How do I install twrp" etc. But maybe this can help some of us.
I got a question. If I install twrp and root, am I still able to install system updates? For example, oxygen 5.1.6 comes out. How do I install it?
Have a nice day!
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Probably not if it's rooted,in terms of it updating its self. Most likely someone will upload a zip file to flash over the old version though
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Download the full room zip file, install with TWRP just as you would with a custom rom. You will lose root so you would have to repeat that process. It may differ because of the a/b partitioning, but that is how it worked on op3t. As always, backup data. And also SDcard in case you can't decrypt. Also delete lock screen before flashing.
mikex8593 said:
Download the full room zip file, install with TWRP just as you would with a custom rom. You will lose root so you would have to repeat that process. It may differ because of the a/b partitioning, but that is how it worked on op3t. As always, backup data. And also SDcard in case you can't decrypt. Also delete lock screen before flashing.
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What if I have Xposed installed? Will the update go fine with that as long as I disable Substratum overlays and am flashing the full zip and then root afterwards? Or do I have to disable Xposed in Magisk or what? (I use systemless xposed)
mikex8593 said:
Download the full room zip file, install with TWRP just as you would with a custom rom. You will lose root so you would have to repeat that process. It may differ because of the a/b partitioning, but that is how it worked on op3t. As always, backup data. And also SDcard in case you can't decrypt. Also delete lock screen before flashing.
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Why do I have to delete lockscreen?
Sconny said:
Why do I have to delete lockscreen?
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What he means is delete the lock screen security so a pin/pattern/face unlock/figerprints... anything other then swipe to unlock your phone because if you have them set and you install a new ROM or flash the Stock ROM then it can't decrypt your phone data or recognize your security on the new ROM.
This also goes for doing a nandroid backup of any current ROM you have installed. Delete all security before booting into TWRP and backing up your ROM.
Eric214 said:
What he means is delete the lock screen security so a pin/pattern/face unlock/figerprints... anything other then swipe to unlock your phone because if you have them set and you install a new ROM or flash the Stock ROM then it can't decrypt your phone data or recognize your security on the new ROM.
This also goes for doing a nandroid backup of any current ROM you have installed. Delete all security before booting into TWRP and backing up your ROM.
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Oh that's something new to me. But thanks, really
No Worries! Glad to be of help.
NateDev said:
What if I have Xposed installed? Will the update go fine with that as long as I disable Substratum overlays and am flashing the full zip and then root afterwards? Or do I have to disable Xposed in Magisk or what? (I use systemless xposed)
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Regardless, it will still wipe system. Think of it as a complete factory reset. It will reinstall the full system and data of a brand new room.

Question Does installing twrp wipe my data?

I recently unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone via magisk and this of course wiped my data and factory resetted it. I unfortunately forgot to install twrp before I setup and restore my phone's data. Now I want to install twrp but too lazy to resetup my phone again in case my data gets wiped again. So my question is does installing twrp wipe my data if my device has already unlocked the bootloader and rooted. Thanks in advance. (I have an international SM-A536E)
iintc said:
I recently unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone via magisk and this of course wiped my data and factory resetted it. I unfortunately forgot to install twrp before I setup and restore my phone's data. Now I want to install twrp but too lazy to resetup my phone again in case my data gets wiped again. So my question is does installing twrp wipe my data if my device has already unlocked the bootloader and rooted. Thanks in advance. (I have an international SM-A536E)
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No it doesn't, but a pro tip is: if you're on one ui 5.1 don't install twrp as it doesn't work.
TringQuack said:
No it doesn't, but a pro tip is: if you're on one ui 5.1 don't install twrp as it doesn't work.
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Oh, twrp apparently doesn't work on one ui 5.1? That's interesting. Anyhow, thanks.
iintc said:
Oh, twrp apparently doesn't work on one ui 5.1? That's interesting. Anyhow, thanks.
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it works now, go check out the twrp thread by afaneh, follow the instructions and make sure you download the latest kernel.
TringQuack said:
it works now, go check out the twrp thread by afaneh, follow the instructions and make sure you download the latest kernel.
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This thread? https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/recovery-unofficial-twrp-for-galaxy-a53-5g-exynos.4467443/ btw if so, how do I disable the encryption? Where is the Advanced option in "Go to Advanced > Terminal, type: multidisabler"?

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