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So my Shinecon VR headset came in two days. I wanted to post the review here because I upgraded from a much smaller phone with much less pixel density, which is what drew me to VR technology in the first place. That being said, I'm sure I'm not the only one that wants to make the jump into VR with the acquisition of my new N6P. I had the opportunity to thoroughly try out the headset in short bursts of time. That means I haven't watched a movie on it. I decided to exclude any pics because the ones provided by Amazon will be much better anyhow.
http://www.amazon.com/Generation-Sh...=UTF8&qid=1447287272&sr=8-1&keywords=shinecon
http://www.amazon.com/SainSonic-Hel...=UTF8&qid=1447287272&sr=8-2&keywords=shinecon
Place of purchase: AliExpress (Amazon has it too but I purchased from AE because I knew my Nexus 6P was going to take a while to arrive anyways)
Price: $25 from AE (there's a range of prices)
Phone tested with headset: Nexus 6P (no case, just a vinyl skin)
Comfort:
In comparison to the original Google Cardboard, it's obviously more luxurious and comfortable. The Shinecon has faux leather all around the areas that contact your face, except for the nose. The nose area is where a bit of light leaks in, but can easily be remedied with a bit of foam. However, I decided to leave this open as a port for ventilation because the phone can get warm depending on what type of VR content you're consuming.
The head straps are also made of good quality Velcro, so it's easily adjustable. The placement of the straps also seem pretty ideal, as the headset doesn't seem to be torquing my head downwards too much while in use.
Features:
The Shinecon has a few knobs to tweak the lens' position. There is a single knob on top that adjusts the distance between the lens. There's also knobs on either side of the headset that adjusts the fore/aft of the entire phone to bring the display into focus.
The phone loads into the headset with a spring/clamp mechanism. However, I found it difficult to load/unload my N6P mostly because the phone itself is pretty large for the mount. I wouldn't recommend any phone larger than the N6P for the Shinecon, but there's a tiny bit of wiggle room if you insist. The clamping mechanism also seems rather fragile, as the plastic bends pretty easily. The tabs for the clamp are also rather thin. If it does break, the clamp/tray can be removed with a few screws, and you could load the phone into the headset with some foam. Once the phone is loaded into the tray, all you do is fold the front "door" back into position and a magnet keeps things closed. The magnet seems sufficiently strong to hold my N6P without any problems. There is also an extra backplate that can be removed (attached via magnet) to allow better ventilation of your device, as well as exposing the camera for augmented reality, etc.
The front door also has a gap on either side of the headset, allowing for easy access to any ports on the phone that are on the top or bottom of the phone's edges. I could easily charge my N6P and use headphones while using the Shinecon.
Viewing Content:
Since this headset does not include any of its own software, I can only talk about the experience provided by 3rd party apps. I used Cardboard Theater to view my own content, and tested other VR videos with VRSE and Youtube. Everything was very simple to use, and the lens were of great quality. Picture was very clear, and the FOV was fantastic. Using Cardboard Theater, I was able to adjust "how far I am to the screen." In other words, it felt like I was on the front row of the theater with very good immersion. Not much black space on the edges of the field, which was a problem on the original Google Cardboard headset. I don't know if the advertised 110* FOV is accurate, but I'm pretty satisfied with what I'm seeing.
Build Quality:
Overall build quality was better than expected. Everything fit together very nicely. Nothing was squeaky. There were no loose threads on the leather. The hinges did not creak. The lenses weren't scratched or warped. I basically had no complaints. Especially given the very cheap price, I would definitely buy it again. This headset was slightly more pricey than a few other Chinese brand headsets, but the quality and FOV/immersion seemed to justify the slightly higher price tag.
TLDR:
I liked it. I would buy it again.
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wrong post...anyway i'm gonna order for myself one of these hope this shinecon it's ok ..worried only about fov...i'm gonna use it with a note 4
How do you control things in apps like cardboard?
Cardboard utilizes a magnet, where your phone responds to a change in the magnetic field.
For my shinecon, you can either implement that yourself, or touch the screen when you need to. Most other apps outside of cardboard don't need the magnet. You just "stare" at controls to activate them
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Is the shinecon good enough or the GEAR BOX must be better?
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Is the shinecon good enough or the GEAR BOX must be better?
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What's a gear box? I googled and found some transmissions[emoji1]
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Well VR BOX is a similar variant and now it has a v2.0 too! Available with Bluetooth remote for $23 approx...why don't you YouTube it? Just check it out and tell me which one to go for?
Ohhhh you meant vr box. I was considering that one too, because it simply looks nicer than my shinecon. However, other reviews mentioned the FOV wasn't good. I opted for the shinecon purely based on FOV, and immersion is great. I wouldn't spend less to get less immersion. The Bluetooth remote is cool, but one can be had for $5
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One issue is the need to "calibrate" the unit and Shinecon doesn't provide a QR code but on another site someone chimed in that they were whiteboxing the units and provided one --> http://vrkix.com/pages/faqs
One other issue I had: 1) adjusting the phone to lens distance doesn't have a "stop" and I had to push to get phone to move back. A related issue is the slide on bottom has nothing to match movement to top so unit can get crooked and jammed.
Note: There are some foam pads that are provided so you can elevate the unit so that the side buttons are not activated. Using the
Other wise, great device once you get it dialed in (old eyes)
The cardboard QR code for VR shinecon
Altimas said:
How do you control things in apps like cardboard?
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I use a bluetooth controller, it works! Very convenient! There are many dirt cheap controllers in Amazon, go find yours.
Seabeseen said:
I use a bluetooth controller, it works! Very convenient! There are many dirt cheap controllers in Amazon, go find yours.
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Yup, they're typically around $5. You could even try plugging in your ear buds and try the inline button. Heard it works for some.
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The cardboard QR code for VR shinecon
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i have vr scinecon too, but i see distort reality with this QR profile.
Anyone have found correct qr code for this glsses?
So I'm still not too familiar with VR, but I do like what I have with shinecon. What's the QR code for?
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kayo90 said:
i have vr scinecon too, but i see distort reality with this QR profile.
Anyone have found correct qr code for this glsses?
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Hi, I generate it according to my PD. My PD is 70mm.
In the cardboard viewer profile generator, the Inter-lens distance, I use my PD. As the PD can be adjusted, I don't know what should fill, so I guess it's OK because you can adjust it to fit your eyes.
As to the screen to lens distance, the VR Shinecon can be adjusted too, so I use the maximum one 65mm. It works for some people with short-sight problem. I let my friend try this QR code when adjust to the minimum 55mm, she is -3.00 dioptres, and she said she can see clear in 55mm, no prescription glasses needed. For me, no difference for 55mm or 65mm.
The difficult part for me is the Distortion coefficients. Maybe I'm wrong there? I hope someone could help me out about the math?
https://support.google.com/cardboard/manufacturers/checklist/6322188
rice923 said:
So I'm still not too familiar with VR, but I do like what I have with shinecon. What's the QR code for?
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The QR code works for the cardboard app only.
Here is the link: https://www.google.com/get/cardboard/viewerprofilegenerator/
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The QR code works for the cardboard app only.
Here is the link: https://www.google.com/get/cardboard/viewerprofilegenerator/
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Thanks. I'll read into it. Hopefully it's something that will help with my VR consumption
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OP updated with pics. Figured people appreciate actual pics instead of renderings from the company.
hi thanks for the report
some question
i'm planning to go for shinecon or boafeng (on AE), i have some questions wich may seem evident but i'm really not used to that kind of toys
1. Is the mouse controller able to control all apps on the phone like on a pc
2. In case we want to see normal vids on youtube or other apps, would it still be possible ?
thanks
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hi thanks for the report
some question
i'm planning to go for shinecon or boafeng (on AE), i have some questions wich may seem evident but i'm really not used to that kind of toys
1. Is the mouse controller able to control all apps on the phone like on a pc
2. In case we want to see normal vids on youtube or other apps, would it still be possible ?
thanks
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1. I don't know what mouse controller it is that you speak of.
2. YouTube has a built in feature to allow all videos to be viewed in VR now. That includes regular videos, and there are also actual VR videos that support 360*experiences.
Thinking of picking up an inexpensive VR Glass and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations? Our device is a bit heavier than most, so I'm wondering if that is an issue. Thanks in advance!
I used it in one of the Google Cardboards. Didn't attach the straps or anything. It certainly isn't too heavy, would just depend on how good the headgear is.
I compared it with my girlfriend's Note5. The Note5 looks a lot better on its face due to contrast and over saturation (Adaptive Display mode) - certainly not accurate. But the black levels really take it to a whole new level when they are the main focus (e.g. horror games). The V10 LCD screen has an obvious gray being show instead of black. But the V10 is full RGB and not pentile like the Note5, so it looks sharper/less screen door effect.
I have a cheap google cardboard. I have noticed that the magnetic switch won't work in the default position with the v10. In fact I have to move the phone halfway out of my cardboard for the magnetic case to register.
Anyone have a good Cardboard that works well with the v10?
I just ordered some VR googles from ebay (i am not allowed to post direct links, but look for Google-Cardboard-VR-Box-Virtual-Reality-3D-Glasses-for-LG-V10-G4-G3-G2-for-Sony-/181922145874), mainly going to use them for watching movies. I will post the experience with them, once they will arrive.
Cheers!
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Thinking of picking up an inexpensive VR Glass and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations? Our device is a bit heavier than most, so I'm wondering if that is an issue. Thanks in advance!
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The cardboard V1 units will not work with the V10.
You have to get either a good plastic unit sized for up to a 6" phone, or get a cardboard V2.
I have multiple V1 units that the phone does not fit in, a V2 that works well, and a Destek VR headset that works perfectly.
The destek unit does not have a button on it and you need to use a controller but it is by far the best experience.
I got the ViewMaster from Target. $30 but sometimes drops to $20.
The v10 fits nicely and the tricgger on the viewmaster works good with the v10
The ViewMaster itself is made pretty well. The front has a tinted plastic piece tjat makes it look a bit more high end like. The material for resting your face on the device is made of rubber and keeps thing comfy
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I have a cheap google cardboard. I have noticed that the magnetic switch won't work in the default position with the v10. In fact I have to move the phone halfway out of my cardboard for the magnetic case to register.
Anyone have a good Cardboard that works well with the v10?
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I ordered one of the free Star Wars Cardboard kits Google was giving away a month or so ago with my V10 and it works great.
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i tried the Mattel one.. it was ok but i didnt like the clamp that holds the V10.. it scratches up against the glass, and there is no head strap.. so i returned it.
I also tried the Desktek VR.. It was also ok but the field of view is bad.. like looking through a window.. not immersive at all. So i returned that one also.
I have the Freefly VR on order now, which is a little more expensive but has a wide FOV and really immersive from what I have read.
I got one from Yahoo Bid (an eBay-like website by Yahoo. I guess they only have it here in Taiwan though) for ~$8. It was a bit fragile, but was fixable by staples anyway. Paired with my V10, it seems a bit pixeled, but acceptable. Also, you can catch a glimpse of the second screen if you don't put the phone in the exact place lol.
What software is everyone using for VR?
Shortly after I got the StarWars themed cardboard from verizon I tried Trinus server and Trinus VR Lite to see if I could stream VR from games (only tried with Elite Dangerous so far) on my PC. Other than still needing a head strap and padding I felt like it was promising but I just couldn't get the lens calibration quite right and the image quality seemed terrible.
A couple weeks later I saw that the dev had released a standalone VR demo game using Unity. When I tried it I actually felt like I got the settings perfect but they seemed wrong when I plugged the same lens calibration numbers into the the streaming server.
http://trinusvr.com/ to get the server software
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.loxai.trinus.test google play link to trial version. (time restricted - no ads)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.loxai.trinus.full full version.
http://trinusvr.com/survival-shooter-for-trinusvr/ standalone VR demo/game
The freefly is really nice.. best VR viewer i have tried so far.. the only thing i cannot get working is the magnet setup.. i rigged a cardboard style magnet setup on it but the V10 still isnt recognizing the magnet field.. i wonder if the compass/magnometer is working correctly..
Update: I found the sweet spot for the V10 magnet.. works great now.
Sometimes the lenses fog up if you dont have a lot of airflow also, but I definitely recommend the Freefly over the other cheaper units..
Where was the sweet spot? It worked once for me, and now I can't get it working again.
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Where was the sweet spot? It worked once for me, and now I can't get it working again.
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What VR viewer do you have?
For the V10 and the freefly I put the magnets inside the left eye lens.. the front lower area so the magnet is closer to the front camera area on the V10.. that is where it always picks up the magnetic field changes..
I have a nicely built one from eBay. VR BOX V.2. It reminds me of the gear vr (had it for a few months)
That said...what I tried to do with the Google cardboard app looked terrible. Was very disapointed in my v10 in VR mode.
vlgligor said:
I just ordered some VR googles from ebay (i am not allowed to post direct links, but look for Google-Cardboard-VR-Box-Virtual-Reality-3D-Glasses-for-LG-V10-G4-G3-G2-for-Sony-/181922145874), mainly going to use them for watching movies. I will post the experience with them, once they will arrive.
Cheers!
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Hi,
So I got one of these in the mail and there is no obvious way to trigger the interface. They include rubber pads to use phone buttons on the sides but......there are no buttons' on the sides of the V10. Am I missing something?
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Hi,
So I got one of these in the mail and there is no obvious way to trigger the interface. They include rubber pads to use phone buttons on the sides but......there are no buttons' on the sides of the V10. Am I missing something?
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@Dartin Bout
I'm guessing like using it to touch the screen?
Nitemare3219 said:
I used it in one of the Google Cardboards. Didn't attach the straps or anything. It certainly isn't too heavy, would just depend on how good the headgear is.
I compared it with my girlfriend's Note5. The Note5 looks a lot better on its face due to contrast and over saturation (Adaptive Display mode) - certainly not accurate. But the black levels really take it to a whole new level when they are the main focus (e.g. horror games). The V10 LCD screen has an obvious gray being show instead of black. But the V10 is full RGB and not pentile like the Note5, so it looks sharper/less screen door effect.
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I'll take sharpness over "true black" anyday, especially when the screen is 2" from my face. **** pentile.
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Abrasher said:
I have a nicely built one from eBay. VR BOX V.2. It reminds me of the gear vr (had it for a few months)
That said...what I tried to do with the Google cardboard app looked terrible. Was very disapointed in my v10 in VR mode.
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What's wrong with it? Mine looked fine.
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I'll take sharpness over "true black" anyday, especially when the screen is 2" from my face. **** pentile.
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What's wrong with it? Mine looked fine.
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But screen distance is not everything. The lenses play a large role in this. which is how Oculus is making the Rift look a lot better than its predecessors - more advanced lenses. Since my last post, I went back to the Note5... and got a GearVR. With the GearVR, the pentile arrangement is only noticeable if you are looking for it, AND have a solid color where a single pixel is being used to illuminate it (e.g. pure red). The gap in the pixels becomes a little more pronounced. But trust me man, OLED is the future. I couldn't bear the LCD on the V10 any longer since I have a 4K OLED TV. OLED is the only thing I can look at now.
I use freefly VR. Awesome field of view. 120 degrees! Our phones fit in it no problem. Mine came with a small bluetooth controller which satisfied the lack of a "click" button.Also, you can use a small kitchen magnet to simulate a click if you need to. Just tap the back of the phone with the magnet and it'll work. We arent talking about a huge powerful magnet either. Just a normal refrigerator one.
The connection between the rubber strap and the case is already falling apart after only a WEEK. This is pissing me off. Get the Classic version!!!
jamesindc said:
The connection between the rubber strap and the case is already falling apart after only a WEEK. This is pissing me off. Get the Classic version!!!
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Get it exchanged under warranty. You obviously have a defective unit. Mine's a month old & I have no such issues.
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No issues here either... but then again, I got the watch, replaced the white band with red one and haven't removed it since.
Martin5000 said:
No issues here either... but then again, I got the watch, replaced the white band with red one and haven't removed it since.
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Red you say? Gotta link?
jamesindc said:
The connection between the rubber strap and the case is already falling apart after only a WEEK. This is pissing me off. Get the Classic version!!!
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I have the same problem (the band actually separated from the mechanism that attaches the band to the watch, it is not actually separated from the case) and am bummed I did not get the sport version. Since I was using one large and one small strap, I have reversed the ends and can still wear the watch but who knows for how long.
However, I am using the failure as an opportunity to try and fashion a way to adapt the spring loaded mechanism to attach a standard watch band. I am still in the planning stages and will post something if I actually make it work.
Fred
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Red you say? Gotta link?
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I bought mine here: http://tilbehoer.telia.dk/cgi/frontend.cgi?func=catalog.show&func_id=34439&table=PRODUCT
Unfortunately I don't know if they sell outside Denmark and so far it's the only place I've seen it for sale.
I havent had any issues either and Im also using a black/blue band I bought off Amazon
Heres a link to the red band
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Smart..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=1F168FQPSBH1757ADHGB
jez924 said:
I havent had any issues either and Im also using a black/blue band I bought off Amazon
Heres a link to the red band
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Smart..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=1F168FQPSBH1757ADHGB
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The only issue I see when purchasing new bands is that none of them specify whether they are Large or Small. What size band do you have?
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Lancerz said:
The only issue I see when purchasing new bands is that none of them specify whether they are Large or Small. What size band do you have?
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you are correct they dont specify size but im assuming they all come in the large size L as that is what I got.
Ordered red bands for the wife for christmas and got em yesterday, tans are on the way (I hope) got em direct from samsung.
As for the band coming apart, all good here for both me and the wife, still as solid as the day I got em. Must be defective.
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you are correct they dont specify size but im assuming they all come in the large size L as that is what I got.
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My red band is size M. It also didn't mention any size or options to choose where I bought it.
Martin5000 said:
My red band is size M. It also didn't mention any size or options to choose where I bought it.
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Thats weird I thought the only 2 sizes would be small or large as those are the sizes that come with the watch
Gear S2 strap problems
optimummind said:
Get it exchanged under warranty. You obviously have a defective unit. Mine's a month old & I have no such issues.
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Give it time - I have had mine for 2 months. Strap separated 2 days ago. Having a lot of problems getting Samsung CS to replace it under warranty. I would reccomend that you definitely buy the Classic. This watch band problem is not going away. New bands are $49 equal to the price of a Classic when you add the watch cost.
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Give it time - I have had mine for 2 months. Strap separated 2 days ago. Having a lot of problems getting Samsung CS to replace it under warranty. I would reccomend that you definitely buy the Classic. This watch band problem is not going away. New bands are $49 equal to the price of a Classic when you add the watch cost.
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Could the people having strap issues please provide a tad bit more background on their use patterns?
Did the straps fail when removing them from the watch case?
Had the straps previously been removed just to determine which size worked best for you?
Do you wear your straps tight or loose?
I think this will help get down to exactly what the failure point is and if some are going to be more susceptible than others. For instance; I'd ordered a warehouse deal one from Amazon and when it arrived it had the small size strap on it. So I attempted to switch out the band to the larger size but the buckle side band was nearly impossible to remove. Ultimately i got it removed, but the band pulled away from the metal bracket on one side. Eventually i had to return the watch anyway because the previous owner turned on reactivation lock But I can definitely see these bands prone to damage and failure when switching them out.
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Give it time - I have had mine for 2 months. Strap separated 2 days ago. Having a lot of problems getting Samsung CS to replace it under warranty. I would reccomend that you definitely buy the Classic. This watch band problem is not going away. New bands are $49 equal to the price of a Classic when you add the watch cost.
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I like the classic watch but for some us its not an option as we need the 3G, GPS and speaker which does not come with the classic.
fluidj said:
Could the people having strap issues please provide a tad bit more background on their use patterns?
Did the straps fail when removing them from the watch case?
Had the straps previously been removed just to determine which size worked best for you?
Do you wear your straps tight or loose?
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I think mine broke because I wear the watch when I sleep and I move around a lot and probably was dragging my arm under my body or something. Anyway, I could see the band separating from the mechanism for a few weeks before it actually came apart. Normally there is no separation between the mechanism and the band but it slowly started showing a gap between the strap and it's mounting point.
I do wear the band tight. Definitely had nothing to do with removing the band from the watch.
I have been traveling all week and have not had time to try my idea for a retrofit to use a standard watch band but I have a strategy. Should cost next to nothing (<$2US) but it may not look great. I will try tomorrow.
Fred
Hello, I am looking for a SmartWatch for Huawei Honor 6. Suggestions?
jamesindc said:
The connection between the rubber strap and the case is already falling apart after only a WEEK. This is pissing me off. Get the Classic version!!!
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Mine did the same thing. I did take the band off and noticed 2 small screws holding the connector part of the band to the rubber band itself. I was able to tighten those screws and the separation issue was fixed. However, I don't think I should have to tighten things that are coming loose on a watch that costs this much
Martin5000 said:
My red band is size M. It also didn't mention any size or options to choose where I bought it.
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My Guess on this sizing is: When you buy the watch the factory box comes with S & L straps. The additional bands will only be available in one size, Medium which will fit both small and large wrists.
Compare your new red M band with the original S & L bands that came with your watch. I wouldn't doubt they have taken a large band and possibly put more holes in it so it will fit most wrists.
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I like the classic watch but for some us its not an option as we need the 3G, GPS and speaker which does not come with the classic.
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The classic and sport are exactly the same. Unless I am missing something?
I want the classic. but I need it to have a speaker and GPS. can someone confirm if it comes with GPS and speaker?
Just picked up one of these watches having moved from a Moto 360 V2. So far it seems nice but when load custom watch faces using Watchmaker, I notice the watch face does not fill up the entire display. There is a band of black about 2mm thick around the face. I tried a standard Fossil watch face and it appears to be the same. Is this a display feature or have I missed some setting in the watch somewhere? It's hard to believe the watch would only display a watch face on 90% of the display.
What you were seeing around the display is the black bezel, like any phone display. There is not actually "display" in that area.
Yes, the black border around the screen is the worst thing with this Fossil. But threre are not any good competitors with full screen right now, like the Huawei watch 1, or the Moto 360 had for example.
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Yep major let down there. It is to accommodate the light sensor and the NFC aerial apparently.
1 Get rid of the light sensor, never issue it in any event.
2 The Ticwatch Pro seems able to have NFC without losing screen real estate.
palexr said:
Yep major let down there. It is to accommodate the light sensor and the NFC aerial apparently.
1 Get rid of the light sensor, never issue it in any event.
2 The Ticwatch Pro seems able to have NFC without losing screen real estate.
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My Moto 360 V2 had an area at the bottom of the screen that was the sensor I guess. But the rest of the screen was totally filled with the display. After a while I never noticed this little bump at the bottom but on the Fossil I notice the black bezel all the time since it makes the screen face smaller than even the Moto 360 V2 I was using (Watchmaker Pro watch faces).
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My Moto 360 V2 had an area at the bottom of the screen that was the sensor I guess. But the rest of the screen was totally filled with the display. After a while I never noticed this little bump at the bottom but on the Fossil I notice the black bezel all the time since it makes the screen face smaller than even the Moto 360 V2 I was using (Watchmaker Pro watch faces).
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Yeah I love the size of my 360v2. I have the Carlyle and have a hard time see the display ( have font on large too)
I'll be looking for a new wearOS watch with a larger display, hopefully one will launch soon. Still have the fully functioning Moto 360v2, best watch ever, I've beat the crap out of that thing ever since i've had it and have had absolutely no issues, other than it being slow.
I think it's funny the original moto 360 got so much grief for the "flat tire". Years later, I would still gladly trade my thick dark border area on my Fossil Carlyle for a larger display.
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Yep major let down there. It is to accommodate the light sensor and the NFC aerial apparently.
1 Get rid of the light sensor, never issue it in any event.
2 The Ticwatch Pro seems able to have NFC without losing screen real estate.
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electricpete1 said:
I think it's funny the original moto 360 got so much grief for the "flat tire". Years later, I would still gladly trade my thick dark border area on my Fossil Carlyle for a larger display.
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Agree completely. I use a custom watch face that is modelled on a real watch. It looks a bit small on the Fossil compared with the Moto 360V2 I replaced it with. I never minded the flat tire - got used to it.
electricpete1 said:
I think it's funny the original moto 360 got so much grief for the "flat tire". Years later, I would still gladly trade my thick dark border area on my Fossil Carlyle for a larger display.
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That grief is leaking into the year 2020, because I still use my 360 as a weekender.
At least I'm not alone - moving from a Moto360 v2 due to a sick battery and so far not liking the Fossil Gen 5 Carlyle
The screen ends up being tiny and I am having trouble seeing the time on any decent watch faces. I didn't buy it to be a digital watch, but they are about the only ones were a glance is enough to see the time...
Marine Commander on Google play is about the best analog / digital I have found, but still not that impressed.
2015 we had wireless charging, a large bright screen, 2 days battery and something that looked premium on your wrist - years later, and it seems we have gone backwards!
Even the new Moto360 Gen 3 is small and suffers the black ring issue.
I have ordered a new battery for the 360 v2 to see if I can fix it, if I can, the Fossil might just go back !
Rik
lchiu7 said:
Just picked up one of these watches having moved from a Moto 360 V2. So far it seems nice but when load custom watch faces using Watchmaker, I notice the watch face does not fill up the entire display. There is a band of black about 2mm thick around the face. I tried a standard Fossil watch face and it appears to be the same. Is this a display feature or have I missed some setting in the watch somewhere? It's hard to believe the watch would only display a watch face on 90% of the display.
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Yes it is the worst thing that has a black border around the display screen but is a display black bezel
looking for an app for watch that will read and display heart rate from a chest strap
ehouse17 said:
looking for an app for watch that will read and display heart rate from a chest strap
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As far as I know, there isn't any but in principle this depends on the strap. However, say you have a Garmin strap (Garmin just an example), they will hardly make an app available to read the values from the strap on a non-garmin watch as everyone is trying to lock you in their device ecosystem. A sad reality indeed, hope someone proves me wrong and I can get the reading of my unreasonably expensive strap on my watch.