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Just wondering what the difference is between the android system and android os in the battery usage monitor. I am currently on Infused 2.0.4 with the infusion kernel. Also, I am using juicedefender. I am mostly wondering because battery life has not been that great. When I first flashed Infused 2.0.0 battery life was really good. Also, what is the difference between CPU usage, CPU foreground, and stay awake? I see all of those under both android system and android os as well as a couple other apps and those numbers seem kind of high sometimes. Also, yes I did pull my battery a couple of times since flashing 2.0.4 once for just like 5 min, and again for around 30min. No noticeable change on battery life. Sorry if these are dumb questions, I tried to find out what they all meant, but I didnt find to much information on them. Thanks.
Hey, Just wondering what would you guys say is the best rom for + kernel for battery life that also isn't stupidly slow.. Oh and by battery life i don't mean like upkeep time i mean like basing it on screen on time like what roms can get 4+hours screen on time?
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stock rom 4.04
Oh and what kernel is better for Rascream rom Trinity or Matrix cause i don't really know much about rascream as i just started using it.
I'm able to squeeze over four hours of screen on time from most ROMs providing I don't reboot and minimise my modem usage. I'm currently using Pete Alfonso's Gingerbread kernel and Blandriid 2.3.7.
But I keep trying alternatives...
Yeah Atm i'm using latest Rascream with TEUV kernel and not sure atm but battery seems okay?
The biggest battery eater is the screen so try brainmaster's black cm9. It's about the only thing you can do apart from obviously keeping your screen brightness at minimum is put your phone in airplane mode when feasible. Nothing else will make much difference.
For GB i have to say, Oxygen 2.3.2 with Matr1x 11.0
As for ICS, i've yet to come across one, I do, however have fond memories of aosp+
To supplement bedalus' post: to base battery life on kernel+rom combination alone does not tell much of a story. I got the most out of my battery when I - used a pure black and static wallpaper, turned off auto brightness and manually tuned down to 10%-ish, kept apps and processes at a minimum (reduced app drawer to a single page, mostly stock). To reiterate, kernel+rom alone give few tangible differences when comparing battery life, from personal experience.
I use Matrix Kernel v19 and CyanogenMod v7. 24 hrs with light use, 12 hrs with heavy use.
used to use milestone 4 with air kernel.
use the latest version of both rom and kernel and set 200-1000.
you will see the difference and if you want to save more battery after following as above, then reply me.
I haven't really noticed a difference between ROMs. As stated a few posts above, the kernel and ROM themselves will only give a few minor boosts. Black vs white screens makes a world of difference. I use the inverted browser a lot and a majority of my apps tend to have dark themes which I personally prefer. Daily use, 3 or so hours of screen on time with the phone off the charger for 12-14 hours. It all varies on how I use my phone though on that particular day.
What should I do in order to get a stock android experience feel on the MIUI 6?
I was thinking about installing the Google Now launcher, any suggestions apart from that?
Also to keep my phone snappy and lag free, what monthly maintenance should I do? I have had horrible experience with my Galaxy Note and do not want to happen that to my Mi4i
Will it be good enough to use it without a screen protector and external cover??
shubhstiws said:
What should I do in order to get a stock android experience feel on the MIUI 6?
I was thinking about installing the Google Now launcher, any suggestions apart from that?
Also to keep my phone snappy and lag free, what monthly maintenance should I do? I have had horrible experience with my Galaxy Note and do not want to happen that to my Mi4i
Will it be good enough to use it without a screen protector and external cover??
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Got my Mi4i today, installed the Google Now launcher and made it default... But this will not change the pull down notification/toggles shade UI or the lockscreen UI... If you want a full level stock lollipop experience, you will have to root it and then modify the ROM/flash a CM ROM, when it becomes available...
If you head over to mi.com India site, you'll get a sim card tray and screen protector from Xiaomi for free on purchase of Mi4i/redmi 2....
Weekly Maintenance: There is nothing as such which u can do apart from keeping it away from bloat wares
Using without Cover & Screen Guard would depend completely on your usage - If you can manage it like that - Go without them. I personally would be using it without any covers and stuff
If you really want a Stock Exp - Flash CM once its ported for Mi4i or any other AOSP Based ROM.
Thanks, but MIUI6 is awesome!
I used to prefer stock android, but MIUI6 just works, it has a solution for almost everything. And it is very very convenient. I am loving the ROM, especially the fusion of the best of android features with the copied elegance of iOS.
Little things like leaving the screen to where the app was last accessed makes a lot of difference.
Battery life is surprisingly awesome.
I got a screen time of 6+ hours after the first recharge, which is mind blowing.
Hope it continues.
Over all the phone is very cool in the hand and smooth in operation
i got 8+ hrs sot on first charge
MIUI 6 is pretty good!
shubhstiws said:
I used to prefer stock android, but MIUI6 just works, it has a solution for almost everything. And it is very very convenient. I am loving the ROM, especially the fusion of the best of android features with the copied elegance of iOS.
Little things like leaving the screen to where the app was last accessed makes a lot of difference.
Battery life is surprisingly awesome.
I got a screen time of 6+ hours after the first recharge, which is mind blowing.
Hope it continues.
Over all the phone is very cool in the hand and smooth in operation
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I agree, I was (perhaps still am) a big fan of the stock experience, but the MIUI 6 is so intuitively designed and looks so gorgeous that I have started liking it!
shubhstiws said:
What should I do in order to get a stock android experience feel on the MIUI 6?
I was thinking about installing the Google Now launcher, any suggestions apart from that?
Also to keep my phone snappy and lag free, what monthly maintenance should I do? I have had horrible experience with my Galaxy Note and do not want to happen that to my Mi4i
Will it be good enough to use it without a screen protector and external cover??
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i got a scratch on screen when it was in same pocket where i kept keys. So don't even think of using without tempered glass or screenguard. :crying:
I feel the same, Some how I do not like MIUI, I always like Stock Android experience.
Only way to experience is b installing Google Now Launcher. But this doesn't work quite well on this device. It shows black pages in App drawer and black rectangular boxes on home page...
Maybe need to wait to get this device rooted.....
miui is lagging like hell, its beauty but is lagging very very very much, i hate it
I just thought the same!
My only reason to stay on MIUI is due to its camera. I was thinking somehow remove all the memory hogging MIUI crap except the camera and install some launcher like Nova.
Need some help regarding which files are safe to remove so the phone + camera app works
non expandable storage kills the mobile or else its good
sharan.nyn said:
I just thought the same!
My only reason to stay on MIUI is due to its camera. I was thinking somehow remove all the memory hogging MIUI crap except the camera and install some launcher like Nova.
Need some help regarding which files are safe to remove so the phone + camera app works
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If you want to switch, flash these -
1)Resurrection Remix (ROM)
2)Snapdragon Camera V2 (Keep the camera quality intact)
3)Viper4Android (Fix bad speaker and greatly improve jack audio)
4)Sensei Kernel (no heating issues - EVER, butter smooth performance all around, nearly a 2 day battery life)
With Snapdragon Camera -
Go to settings, change Contrast, Saturation and Sharpness to Level 6(Sharpness Level 2 is horrible)
Keep in mind that these settings can reset themselves after switching between HDR and normal, so check those first.
Enable Wavelet Denoise Mode too!
For Sensei Kernel -
1) Use zzmove governor for the big cores (high power), interactive for the LITTLE cores (low power).
2) Alucard CPU Hotplug - Max cores on screen on - 8, screen off - 2
3) I/O scheduler - zen, set read ahead to 1024kB
Now head over to Configurations in the Settings menu, go to performance tuning and force GPU for 2D rendering. This will affect battery life a little but will eliminate any kind of lag.
This is all I did and I'm very, very satisfied.
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If you want to switch, flash these -
1)Resurrection Remix (ROM)
2)Snapdragon Camera V2 (Keep the camera quality intact)
3)Viper4Android (Fix bad speaker and greatly improve jack audio)
4)Sensei Kernel (no heating issues - EVER, butter smooth performance all around, nearly a 2 day battery life)
With Snapdragon Camera -
Go to settings, change Contrast, Saturation and Sharpness to Level 6(Sharpness Level 2 is horrible)
Keep in mind that these settings can reset themselves after switching between HDR and normal, so check those first.
Enable Wavelet Denoise Mode too!
For Sensei Kernel -
1) Use zzmove governor for the big cores (high power), interactive for the LITTLE cores (low power).
2) Alucard CPU Hotplug - Max cores on screen on - 8, screen off - 2
3) I/O scheduler - zen, set read ahead to 1024kB
Now head over to Configurations in the Settings menu, go to performance tuning and force GPU for 2D rendering. This will affect battery life a little but will eliminate any kind of lag.
This is all I did and I'm very, very satisfied.
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Thanks for the reply . I will give RR ROM a try too.
Though I have installed the SD camera on MIUI itself but the quality is not as good as MIUI camera. I have to say though SD camera is the only replacement for custom ROMs
sharan.nyn said:
Thanks for the reply . I will give RR ROM a try too.
Though I have installed the SD camera on MIUI itself but the quality is not as good as MIUI camera. I have to say though SD camera is the only replacement for custom ROMs
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Yeah, that's true. Every other camera lags so much.
Hi Community and Falcon owners!
This are my impressions on the battery life we (I suppose) are getting from our beloved device.
Is getting worse, from update to update, or at least for me.
My falcon is 1,5year old, the first configuration i got was:
ROM: Dirty Unicorns 4.4 (KK)
Kernel: Xperience
the results were F*****g awesome
I got DT2W + pocket mode, perfect RAM management (keeping for hours and hours and hours in [perfect] background all my apps withtout ANY reload, nor browser tabs), always smooth, perfect multitasking and about 2/2.5days of battery life with just 2 cores with CPUMAX at 787, I'm not joking.
Now i have:
ROM: OrionOS 2.2 6.0.1 MM
Kernel: HurtSky Hybrid Exp 16
and with the same usage and even more hibernated apps then before (Greenify) i get a not-so-perfectly-working DT2W + pocket mode, kinda of limited RAM performances compared to the old KK configuration (and browser tabs keeps reloading after some hours of suspended device), under intense CPU and/or read/write operations the UI became a lilttle laggy and unresponsive (same thing for other 2 MM ROM I tryed), more than 5 apps can't be kept in perfect background and with a total amount of 20-24h of battery life with 2 cores at CPUMAX 998.
Since the upgrade to Lollipop, I'm really disappointed.
What is going on?
HawkeyeWPR said:
Hi Community and Falcon owners!
This are my impressions on the battery life we (I suppose) are getting from our beloved device.
Is getting worse, from update to update, or at least for me.
My falcon is 1,5year old, the first configuration i got was:
ROM: Dirty Unicorns 4.4 (KK)
Kernel: Xperience
the results were F*****g awesome
I got DT2W + pocket mode, perfect RAM management (keeping for hours and hours and hours in [perfect] background all my apps withtout ANY reload, nor browser tabs), always smooth, perfect multitasking and about 2/2.5days of battery life with just 2 cores with CPUMAX at 787, I'm not joking.
Now i have:
ROM: OrionOS 2.2 6.0.1 MM
Kernel: HurtSky Hybrid Exp 16
and with the same usage and even more hibernated apps then before (Greenify) i get a not-so-perfectly-working DT2W + pocket mode, kinda of limited RAM performances compared to the old KK configuration (and browser tabs keeps reloading after some hours of suspended device), under intense CPU and/or read/write operations the UI became a lilttle laggy and unresponsive (same thing for other 2 MM ROM I tryed), more than 5 apps can't be kept in perfect background and with a total amount of 20-24h of battery life with 2 cores at CPUMAX 998.
Since the upgrade to Lollipop, I'm really disappointed.
What is going on?
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It is truth, in my experience ( start from Samsung Spica Android 1.6 to moto g custom 6.0) gingerbread 2.3 is the fastest one (Motorola Defy single core 512 MB RAM), Spica have a custom ROM with below 100 MB size and our motog have custom ROM with above 350 MB size without gapps. Facility, functions, file size etc are increasing with Android versions. It need more juice from the battery, more RAM and more CPU.
512 MB RAM Defy left around 250 MB free RAM after reboot, Our moto g with 1gb ram also have the same amount of RAM available after reboot.
Application size and it's functions are also increasing from version to version. UCbrowser was 3mb in size initially when I am using, it is now around 11 MB in size.
Also your battery is getting old and it may be another reason.
Is marketing! The smartphone have to be more slow, and the battery have to decrease is power. We on xda say no to marketing rules. You can simply install the rom that you prefer!
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Battery consumption is increasing on every Android version since KitKat.
Marshmallow improved battery life scenario with Doze but it still doesn't match with KK.
IMO, Lollipop was the worst Android version regarding battery life.
Moreover, you said yourself that phone is about 2.5 years old. I'm sure battery has competed it's charge and discharge cycles.
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my moto g actually running orion + zero byte kernel i have everything turn off location account syc and dimmer to the lowest not on auto and i get 8 hours sot just browsing internet i have airplane on and wifi my kernel is tweak for battery life and i use mod so my phone runs cool most time better that way using less battery i try kitkat and to me it wasnt better at all the most i got was 4 hours straight on screen i like orion rom because you have moto doze included plus marshmallow doze and i use force doze and wow im impress i never played with wakelock neither all you need is good kernel and tweaks to get sot :good:
You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the Nokia 6.1 Plus performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the Nokia 6.1 Plus keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
RAM management is Okayish
Ram management is not good. Heavy apps like pubg cannot run smootly and get reloaded when you use another app
The answer is gonna be different depending on whether you have the 4GB or 6GB version. My 6GB version is working very smooth, but I do think that the stock Pie rom closes apps a bit too aggressively. I assume this helps to save battery. My bootloader is unlocked, so eventually I plan to try out some custom roms too, and hopefully the RAM management will be a little less aggressive.
My device 6 months older now, stock ROM, now i can experience sluggishness in operation, i use stock launcher.
Sometimes it takes few sec pause to shuffle app, sharing between different apps, there are some glitches in performance now. Mine is 4gb/64gb variant.
omky_b4u said:
My device 6 months older now, stock ROM, now i can experience sluggishness in operation, i use stock launcher.
Sometimes it takes few sec pause to shuffle app, sharing between different apps, there are some glitches in performance now. Mine is 4gb/64gb variant.
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I'm facing the same problem. While switching between apps, it freezes for a second. Don't know why this problem is. On the Mi A2, nothing like this happens. Very poor OS Management.
I don't think so. I'm using this from last one week and everything seems to be working fine. I have a lot of apps installed but they don't freeze nor does the system kills them automatically. I have enabled automatic battery management. I think you guys have little storage left in your internal memory. Try resetting your devices and it should start working fine. In case if it doesn't then it may be the wear and tear part for which I need to be prepared. Thanks.
Any custom roms improve pubg performance the device is Nokia 6.1plus 4gb reply me