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I know this has been covered in many other threads but they seem to be fragmented into some suggestions for specific problems. Researching, following and applying the information, tips and software some have suggested I am still getting nowhere. My battery dies in a very short period of time - something like 4-6 hours.
I have installated, executed / implemented many of the suggestions and procedures here and on fuze-mobility to extend battery life. These are representative. I think there have been probably more but I cannot remember them.
HTC Power Management
SD Card Battery Saver
Taskmgr - to kill / stop Activiesync (replog.exec) from continuously cycling
Advanced Configuration Tool to turn on and off 3G
Registry Edit modifications on both the Fuze and associated laptop related to Activesync Update cycles
Activesync - added new server, made timing manual, deleted server.
Charging processes - Letting battery run all the way down to below 10%
Lowering brightness on my screen
I have ordered and am waiting for an extended battery for the Fuze.
The only thing I see is when viewing what is executing via the Taskmgr CPU Usage panel, I see that most of the time the Idle process is executing. (75+%). Although I have read some threads where folks have said this is good because nothing else is draining your power, just because the process says "idle" does not seem to me to be doing nothing..it is still cranking through and using cycles to go through its designated activities.
Is there a way to indicate the interval when the idle process cycles?
Anyone have this same situation? Any suggestions?
That sounds very bad. Most complaints are about it being less than a day, noy 4-6 hours.
Have you contacted HTC/your supplier to get a replacement battery?
Also, idle is not a process, it's the absence of a process...
I'm not an expert on the ARM architecture, but idle processes are processes that use the CPU when all other processes are waiting for something or when there are no other processes running. They don't necessarily do anything constructive (they essentially just 'mind' the CPU until another process needs it), but they often feed the CPU with power-saving instructions. In conclusion, ignore it - it's not causing any problems and there's no point in fiddling with it.
That sort of a battery life is absolutely ridiculous, and you've clearly had a good go at increasing it, so I my best guess would be that it's defective.
Thanks for the quick responses.
I would still like to investigate the "idle" process angle. As long as something accesses the CPU, cycles are being executed and power is being used. Depending on what the "idle" process is doing with the 75+% "time" it has control of the CPU lots of power could be being used / drained.
Not sure how to go about this yet but I'm sure there is a way to find out what is going on during the "idle" process time holding the CPU.
If anyone know please share.....
Wow, it seems like the battey life on these things just keeps getting worse and worse. I remember going from the Hermes to the Kaiser and thinking how much worse the battery life was on the Kaiser.
The features keep increasing and batteries are having a hard time keeping up, I think.
there is alot to blame here. the good news there is a fix for almost every culprit.
1st....touch flow 3d. this thing demands alot of battery life. Not too mention its always running. Att has also seem to have added a few things to the touch flo interface that may have had an impact on this as well.
2nd....the applications these days seem to be getting bigger and bigger every few months. its not uncommon to see an app eating up 7 to 10 mb of ram. jivetalk...opera...the new aim??? the thing about this....the more ram an app takes up, the more batt power is consumes.
by the way...this is not a problem native to windows mobile...take a look at Google's g1....the batt life on that phone is even worse than your stock fuze...and after i've been digging through the phone....i found out all the apps are over 5 mb....madness! Also, the iphone has had this problem....and still does. but the iphone doesn't allow for background processing....so large programs running in the background aren't really that much of an issue.
3rd...att! in a noble attempt to cram the fuze with everything under the hood and give it the title it truly deserve (a phone capable of doing everything) they've weighed the os down with crap ware.
4th...the att radio that ships with the phone....its horrid. you'd never belive how much better some of the other radios are vs. the shipped att radio. its almost ridiculous that att would ship the phone with such a poor radio.
5th....htc. The batt in the phone is no bigger than the one offered in the tilt. But lets keep in mind, the same size batt now has to power faster processor....more ram...and a brighter more high res screen. Why they didnt up the power of the batt? who the hell knows...i guess to keep the phone nice a small...but its def a trade off.
I want you to try a cooked rom....try romeos 1.4 or the new proven.....change your radio to the shipped orange....make sure you spl before doing both.
and post back. im sure you'll have a different experience.
wrjp said:
Thanks for the quick responses.
I would still like to investigate the "idle" process angle. As long as something accesses the CPU, cycles are being executed and power is being used. Depending on what the "idle" process is doing with the 75+% "time" it has control of the CPU lots of power could be being used / drained.
Not sure how to go about this yet but I'm sure there is a way to find out what is going on during the "idle" process time holding the CPU.
If anyone know please share.....
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I'm going to save you a ton of wasted hours in your life....or at least give you something else to waste those hours on. Stop the witch hunt on the "Idle" process. Open up the task manager on your desktop/laptop and look for the Idle process on there. If you pay attention (and do a little guessing), you'll see that the idle process consumes the remaining percentage of the CPU after the other applications have had their cut, however if you look at the total usage, you'll see that it doesn't include the Idle process.
There's a reason for this. It's lying to you....
There is no "Idle" process, it's just a way for the operating system to indicate how much processing power is not being used by applications. There's certainly something going on during those empty cycles, but it's operations that the core of the operating system is doing. Another poster mentioned that one of the things it's doing is sending power-saving instructions, which is basically true (but it's more in the form of telling the processor that there's nothing to do and letting it decide to save power).
The idle process cannot go away, and the closer you get it to 100% the better (relatively speaking, as it means you're doing nothing with the phone and removed any cool features it had). As long as the phone is on there's going to be at least a trickle of power going through the processor so the core of the operating system (i.e. Kernel) can perform it's necessary actions...just like the brain or heart does in your own body, even at rest they are still working a little bit.
Truthfully, I think you're barking up the wrong tree with your battery issues. I've got a Fuze also, and the ONLY time that I saw the battery die in 6 hours was when I was talking on it for about 3 1/2 or 4 hours in one afternoon. Otherwise, that thing, even on the stock rom, has given me nothing like the trouble your describing. I've flashed NATF's rom onto it (didn't like ROMeOS that much, just felt a little too laggy for me) and the new Austrailian radio .20M1 and the battery life seems even better. I don't think you're doing something wrong, I think you've got a lemon phone. Return it to the store complaining about the battery life on it not matching that of any of the other Fuze's you've seen anybody else using, then get a new one and try that out.
4-6 hours? Consider yourself lucky. I can get that if I don't touch the phone and no one calls. If I use the phone as a normal person might, I can get 2 hours. I don't even consider it a mobile phone. It's stays plugged into something all day.
momojopoe said:
4-6 hours? Consider yourself lucky. I can get that if I don't touch the phone and no one calls. If I use the phone as a normal person might, I can get 2 hours. I don't even consider it a mobile phone. It's stays plugged into something all day.
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You have a faulty battery or you don't know how to set up the phone. I'm also using HTC Raphael, and battery lasts 1,5 days with lots of usage. I think that you should search xda for battery tips&tricks, like lowering backlight, turning off WIFI, BT and other. Also, there might be a problem with the ROM and Radio you're using.
The battery was exchanged...twice...the poor battery life was present with nothing but stock apps and all the tips and tricks you suggest were tried, and then some...the problem is endemic with the fuze...I figure as much as I paid I shouldn't have to jump through all the hoops with 3rd party new roms etc. just to get my phone to work like it should...the battery is piece of crap
Hmmm, in that case it could be faulty device - there are plenty of people on Raphael subforum that are using Fuze and battery lasts for most of them 1-2 days.
Whos got Extended battery on there Att Fuze ?
Is it worth the bulk
& which one to get ?
18,00 / 2,000 diff kinds i see
with diff company
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
Little to no signal is a battery killer.
Right, but the phone drains like crazy after the signal is regained. It doesn't drain much while there is no signal. Besides, what are people supposed to do when they lose signal? Restart the phone afterwards or lose all battery?
Also, some days it works just fine (and I still take subway to work on those days and lose signal) - so not consistent. I don't think it's simply the fact that no signal kills my battery in this case.
SmiLey497 said:
Little to no signal is a battery killer.
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But OP is getting huge drops in the battery level when network signal is green (full signal strength); and also screen mostly off. Which is very odd . . .
Sounds like there are other folks experiencing this issue, related to signal drop in LTE (riding a subway, etc.):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719227
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Step 1: Remove sense.
Step 2: Proceed to experience the best battery life I have ever seen on an Android device.
If you do not want to remove sense then you need to take a very close look at your apps because something in the apps is responsible. I personally think its HTC sync or some other rediculous service that comes preinstalled on the phone. Something is trying to sync or communicate and is hanging.
Like I said, get rid of sense and save yourself the hassle. Nova Prime + AOKP = the best mobile operating system known to man.
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
neocryte said:
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
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To remove sense you'll need to install a custom ROM such as AOKP or cm9. Those will remove sense. You can find AOKP in the general section under the title "AOKP lives!!" and cm9 under developement. They both have flaws such as the camcorder not working, but considering the flaws that sense has out of the box, you're much better off in my opinion. cm9 and AOKP will get infinitely better in the coming weeks as they iron out the bugs. Sense is disgusting bloatware that is piled on top of stock android. It takes a ton of resources and makes even the simplest tasks a chore. Once you go to an AOSP ROM I don't think you'll ever go back. I can multi task away for hours and come back to another app that wasn't closed out of memory. Try that with sense.
To install a ROM you'll need to:
Root
unlock bootloader
Install a custom recovery
Backup your entire ROM with that recovery
Flash whatever you want
All of the directions of how to do this are in the dev section. Let me know if you have any questions.
Installing a AOSP ROM (such as CM9 and AOKP) will completely "desense" your phone.
Installing a ROM based on stock (like all of the CleanROMs) will get rid of most of the HTC stuff but Sense will still be there.
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
neocryte said:
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
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Seriously just go check it out in the dev section. If you are unsure or have any questions at all come back here and let me know. I can walk you through all of it. Don't be afraid of ruining your device or anything like that. This stuff is all one click these days and isn't bad at all. I can literally walk you through every step if needed. Just check it out yourself though, I bet you'll be fine
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
neocryte said:
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
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FYI, the root process failed for me 2 times before it took. Just keep trying and it will go. Once you are rooted, you'll never have to plug your phone into a computer again. You can do anything from the device, no questions asked.
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Here is what I'd do before installing custom ROMs etc. (Not that I am discouraging you against that but, if your device is indeed faulty then unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty and HTC may not replace/fix it.) And, you'd have wasted countless hours trying to fix the issue with software that was hardware to begin with.
1. Run the battery test *#*#3424#*#*, press 'Accept', Go to More and run 'Battery Test'. Follow instructions in there. If the battery isn't faulty i.e. after one hour the battery level is still greater than 85% (The function test shows a different number) your battery is fine. Else, ask HTC to fix it.
2. If your phone passes the battery test; turn on 'Airplane mode' when you get into an area with spotty signal. This should address your suspicion regarding that.
3. Display: display seems to be draining the most battery - doesn't mean it actual does but, at least the phone seems to think it is. Try reducing brightness to around 20% for a day - I know it is too dim but, it will eliminate that possibility.
4. If you have facebook installed - turn off all syncing. Especially the HTC sense social plugin always tries to update it from facebook.
Based on the screenshots, it seems that the battery drains very quickly when you have the screen on, even with good signal strength.
Lastly, as an alternative to point 2 above, turn on airplane mode for 1 hour and turn off sync, remove all widgets from home screen(s) and just use the phone on wifi with stock browser - see if it drops as quickly or not.
Having gone through it, I understand how frustrating this is. In the end, I rooted and completely desensed my phone (only keeping essentials - basically recreating clean rom). I do not use Auto Sync but manually engage it every few hours to update everything. And, keep the brightness to 30% most of the time.
Hope this helps, good luck.
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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I experience the same thing. After my subway commute and after I regain signal, battery doesn't drop until a couple of seconds after o turn on my screen, but it drops like 3%.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
Rooting, and unlocking the bootloader
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
JCon0320 said:
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
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GPS has no affect on battery life unless it is being actually used. Its not going to drain battery just by being enabled. Auto sync has minimal impact on battery as well, unless you are getting 5 emails every 1 minute. Push is always more battery friendly than pull. (unless there is heavy traffic)
About the low reception thing. While it does indeed affect battery life when the phone is constantly looking for service, it is not as bad as you would think. I sit in an area at my work that has about 1 bar of service. The phone will go from 1-0 bars to searching, about every 5 minutes or so ALL day long for 8 hours. To see the impact this had on my battery life, I did some experimenting. I basically ran my phone in airplane mode for 3 days and then compared and averaged the results over 3 days of normal use with the phone having bad service.
I lost 8% more over an 8 hour work day.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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No, I didn't try clean ROM. But, I took the change log from one of the clean ROMs and deleted most of the apps that can be safely deleted. So, I do sort of have a clean rom and it works fine so far - in terms of battery life. When I used to boot with stock rom, I used to have 150 - 170 mb free ram. With the clean up that I performed - now, free RAM is 270 - 300 mb after a reboot.
Try disabling LTE and see how your battery does.
Click on mobile network settings, and choose gsm/hspa auto.
Hello everyone, I'm having problems with one of my nexus 5.
One month ago I flashed Resurrection remix ROM with no problem and I used it for many weeks.
Something around 3-4 days ago I let it switch off to make a battery cycle and I didn't touch it until the next morning. When I put it on charge, and after waiting for 30 mins, I tried to turn it on with no success. I tried to connect it to my power bank, which has LEDs to verify that is charging, and I discovered that that wasn't happening.
So I took off the back cover and tried to check, moving pieces, if there was any hardware problem. After that the phone finally turned on and was able to charge but since than I have some serious problems:
-while in standby it rapes the battery, in 30 minutes consumed 11% of it with no apps on; with screen on instead it's the opposite, I watched kung fu panda 3 at 100% and at the end of the film (1h 20mins) it was at 86%
-when I go to sleep if I don't keep it attached to a power source in the morning I find it switched off, and when I turn it on I discover it has still around 20-30%
Sorry for the long post but i wanted to explain in more details I could the situation I have.
Does someone of you know what the heck is going on with my N5? What can I do to fix this thing?
lorenzo.ciavatti said:
Hello everyone, I'm having problems with one of my nexus 5.
One month ago I flashed Resurrection remix ROM with no problem and I used it for many weeks.
Something around 3-4 days ago I let it switch off to make a battery cycle and I didn't touch it until the next morning. When I put it on charge, and after waiting for 30 mins, I tried to turn it on with no success. I tried to connect it to my power bank, which has LEDs to verify that is charging, and I discovered that that wasn't happening.
So I took off the back cover and tried to check, moving pieces, if there was any hardware problem. After that the phone finally turned on and was able to charge but since than I have some serious problems:
-while in standby it rapes the battery, in 30 minutes consumed 11% of it with no apps on; with screen on instead it's the opposite, I watched kung fu panda 3 at 100% and at the end of the film (1h 20mins) it was at 86%
-when I go to sleep if I don't keep it attached to a power source in the morning I find it switched off, and when I turn it on I discover it has still around 20-30%
Sorry for the long post but i wanted to explain in more details I could the situation I have.
Does someone of you know what the heck is going on with my N5? What can I do to fix this thing?
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Is your battery life when you use your phone your only problem, no other things you notice that aren't what they always have been? If not, probably your battery is dying. Replacing your battery will most likely fix your problems.
Everything works fine except the things that concern battery inputs or i/o of the phone. Is there a way to check if it's actually the battery the only problem?
I'd rather avoid the situation where i buy a new battery unit and find out the system is joking me someway.
I was wondering, is it possible that those problems are given by an accidental bad settings in Kernel Adiutor?
lorenzo.ciavatti said:
Everything works fine except the things that concern battery inputs or i/o of the phone. Is there a way to check if it's actually the battery the only problem?
I'd rather avoid the situation where i buy a new battery unit and find out the system is joking me someway.
I was wondering, is it possible that those problems are given by an accidental bad settings in Kernel Adiutor?
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Well if you want to check it on the software side, you could take a backup of your current setup, store your important files and the backup on a PC and flash a factory image. Then you can check and test if you have the same problems on a clean setup. It could indeed be wrong kernel settings but to me it sounds like your battery is just dying. That's not weird if you take a look at the release date of this phone.
Hi
All of a sudden my battery started draining rapidly. See the attached screenshots for ref. I thought maybe it was a software bug since it started happening 2 days ago. I tried booting into the safe mode and the fast drain didn't stop. I also did hard reset with same result. At this point I'm thinking about getting new battery. Just wanna see if xda community has any tips if maybe I've missed something. It's just strange that this sudden degradation happened overnight.
Obviously, that draining is not normal.
In the upper left corner there is a warning that some app is running in background.
When you did the hard reset also you did a restore from some backup? Is the device warm/hot?
Sometimes it shows carrier utility or people apps running in the background. I restored from Google backup (forgot to mention in the OP). Device isn't hot at all.
i stared clean with LeeDroid ROM (had original Sprint ROM on) after wiping the data and the fast battery drain remains. at this point i'm going to replace the batter since it's not a software issue.
I'd definitely say your battery has shat itself. I'd also try something like gsam or battery info in *#*#4636#*#* to see the health of your battery. I'd be interested to know if it reports it as "good" health
It's strange but the standby seems to be better now whereas it was going fast before. Thought maybe it 'fixed' itself, however during a phone call (4min) I lost %3. That's definitely not normal 4636 is not showing any battery info. Can't find anything in gsam showing health status of the battery. Is it in pro?
If the battery drains fast during calls can be due to poor/weak network reception (the modem tries to maintain the best quality and scans the network over and over).
3 sot with 50% (or little more) battery left is a good value, in my opinion.
Oh, when recoveries are made due to some problem is better to not restore from backups. In that backup can be the app or setting that is causing the problem.
Anyway, with the last google play services (14.7.99) I also have noticed a bit more drain during standby.
Sounds like you need to replace it
yaboc said:
Hi
All of a sudden my battery started draining rapidly. See the attached screenshots for ref. I thought maybe it was a software bug since it started happening 2 days ago. I tried booting into the safe mode and the fast drain didn't stop. I also did hard reset with same result. At this point I'm thinking about getting new battery. Just wanna see if xda community has any tips if maybe I've missed something. It's just strange that this sudden degradation happened overnight.
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I have about the same issue. The battery is draining too fast and it's very noticeable when idle, even when idle in safe mode + airplane mode it loose 20% during an 7 to 8h night. I tried all htc nougat and oreo official and unofficial roms and nothing fixed the problem.
I also used the htc diagnostic tool to determine whether my battery is "good" or not and..... according to the diagnostic tool it is "good". Notice that according to diagnostic tool the battery is defective only if it goes from 100 to less than 75% during the test. Mine goes from 100 to 93 during the test which consists in showing a kind of dark grey screen at full brightness during 1 hour.
Even with a battery rated as good I decided to sent my device for repair because it was not good.
I received the device back and it has not been repaired because it passes the diagnosric tool test. test.
So i'll replace the battery myself as soon as i'll receive my new battery.
I suggest you to run the diagnostic tool test and if you get a decrease from 100 to less than 75, they should repair it under warranty, if not, suggest you to replace the battery yourself or pay somebody to do it for you.
deadlynounou said:
I received the device back and it has not been repaired because it passes the diagnosric tool test. test.
So i'll replace the battery myself as soon as i'll receive my new battery.
I suggest you to run the diagnostic tool test and if you get a decrease from 100 to less than 75, they should repair it under warranty, if not, suggest you to replace the battery yourself or pay somebody to do it for you.
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I already ordered the battery and will do the replacement myself if the wait times are similar to those of screen replacements. Plus everything points to a bad battery so another test with official app is pointless. Sounds like we both will be doing the swap ourselves.
So I put new battery in and the drain seems slower than before and the charging is not erratic (jumping). When I was removing back cover the black layer came off so I figured it'd be good time to try clear cover mod . I like the look but unsure if anything will interfere with the radios and such due to the missing protection.
Hello all, so the original battery on my Google pixel, almost 3 years old, went to complete hell. It turns off in about a minute once unplugged, despite 100% battery life. So I went and replaced it with two Amazon bought batteries. The first one (definitely not OEM) had the same issue but my pixel would at least last about 10 minutes of regular use, unplugged, before shutting down. So I thought it might be the battery but the second one has the exact same issue. The second one at least looked like OEM with the exterior but since it came from Amazon, it's not 100% certain.
The problem is that the phone charges very fast, like 100% in less than 15 minutes and then discharges 10-20% in just a few minutes. If I last below 70% that would be out of the ordinary.
Is it possible that it's not a battery issue but maybe a different issue? A friendly person on another forum suggested that my core or graphics IC is overheating, attempting to throttle down; and then just shutting down when it looses the battle. Which makes absolute sense since the phone mostly shuts down when I'm playing games on my phone and usually turns off just under 80%.
I also found out that a recent google play store version was found to be the culprit for the extensive battery loss for other folks. Could this also be reason?
Are there any tests I could do to further determine the actual cause?
Thank you.
Two ideas:
- Deactivate Play Store app in Settings -> Apps & Notifications -> All -> Play Store -> Deactivate
- To rule out a damaged third party app as a cause for the battery drain (which actually is quite unlikely in your case), you can reboot into safe mode. For that, long-press the power button and then long-press 'shut down', confirm with OK. At the reboot, all non-system apps are freezed. Then you can check if the battery behaves differently.
Did you try charging your phone for about two hours longer, even if it says it is already at 100%? Maybe just the battery percentage measurement system is somehow damaged.
But you already tried that I guess. So maybe somebody else got another tip for you.
do you try flashing stock image? maybe the battery cache is in trouble
Similar to OP, my Pixel XL had started to have some odd issues beginning almost a year ago. It got REALLY bad in just the last six weeks or so when it would shut down at relatively respectable battery percentages (something like 23% - 57%, randomly).
- Deactivate Play Store app in Settings -> Apps & Notifications -> All -> Play Store -> Deactivate
- To rule out a damaged third party app as a cause for the battery drain (which actually is quite unlikely in your case), you can reboot into safe mode. For that, long-press the power button and then long-press 'shut down', confirm with OK. At the reboot, all non-system apps are freezed. Then you can check if the battery behaves differently.
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Thanks for these ideas, BenjyTec.
When I deactivated ("Disabled" in my settings), there was no change in behavior. In fact, I had forgot I did that until giving things about a week and had forgotten when the phone behaved the same way, LOL (I just now re-enabled it).
I also tried the Safe Mode (which I had not previously known about - thanks!), and the phone still died out pretty quickly from a "full" charge.
Did you try charging your phone for about two hours longer, even if it says it is already at 100%? Maybe just the battery percentage measurement system is somehow damaged.
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I had also done this several times. The really odd thing is many times I will have it on the charger all night or for several hours, and when I take it off it is only at a very low percentage - from 1% to 16%. !!! Of course more often than not it does get to a higher percentage.
do you try flashing stock image? maybe the battery cache is in trouble
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Thanks, gonzakennyn - I have not done a "stock" image, but have factory reset the phone, with no joy. This was actually one of the things I did months ago even before it got really bad, because I wondered if maybe the battery cache or something at the kernel level had deeper issues.
Hopefully the OP might have had better luck or found something...
All these complaints sound like power supply issues.
Use the phone while it's in the charger, and there's no overheating/throttling/shutdown, right?
toucan said:
Similar to OP, my Pixel XL had started to have some odd issues beginning almost a year ago. It got REALLY bad in just the last six weeks or so when it would shut down at relatively respectable battery percentages (something like 23% - 57%, randomly).
Thanks for these ideas, BenjyTec.
When I deactivated ("Disabled" in my settings), there was no change in behavior. In fact, I had forgot I did that until giving things about a week and had forgotten when the phone behaved the same way, LOL (I just now re-enabled it).
I also tried the Safe Mode (which I had not previously known about - thanks!), and the phone still died out pretty quickly from a "full" charge.
I had also done this several times. The really odd thing is many times I will have it on the charger all night or for several hours, and when I take it off it is only at a very low percentage - from 1% to 16%. !!! Of course more often than not it does get to a higher percentage.
Thanks, gonzakennyn - I have not done a "stock" image, but have factory reset the phone, with no joy. This was actually one of the things I did months ago even before it got really bad, because I wondered if maybe the battery cache or something at the kernel level had deeper issues.
Hopefully the OP might have had better luck or found something...
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Unfortunately, I did not find a solution. After replacing the battery twice I pretty much resigned to my fate. I'm going to hold out until Pixel 4 comes out.
Once fully charged, I could use my phone for browsing or watching videos for about an hour before I get to around 30-40%. Then I could leave it unplugged all night and wake up to my battery at 1%. It actually stays that way for a bit.
However, if I use my phone to play any games, I could only use it unplugged for about 10 minutes. My phone will power down without fail at 80% or below only when I play games. Weird thing is, whenever I power it back up, my phone will be 1% but despite that it could last quite a while.
As post-mortem mentioned, I could use my phone while charging without issues so maybe it is a power supply issue, in which case, I have no idea what I could do.
When it's not plugged in to a charger, the only power supply is the battery. Hence, I feel that even your "new" battery is not new.
So a little update all. I updated my phone to the latest Android 10 patch and the battery life has gotten significantly better. It's still not enough to last all day but it can last probably 6-8 hours with minimal use. If I use it constantly, it might last two hours.
I am no longer tethered to my charger when playing games, which is really good news and all the prior issues with the phone shutting down ~80% is gone.
Perhaps the previous Android patches contained faulty code?
I would do fresh install and see if problem resolves. Fresh install fixes all sorts of software issues.
So my battery woes aren't as bad as yours but I did get to the point where I had the battery replaced. I went to uBreakiFix and I have no idea what battery they put in but the bottom line is a brand new battery didn't help much. I got a little better battery life but not as much as I had hoped. I'm assuming that it's either due to the apps I have installed and my usage or the phone is getting old and something is drawing a little more power than it used to. I have not gone to the trouble of factory resetting to see if that would help yet.
JoeHockey said:
So my battery woes aren't as bad as yours but I did get to the point where I had the battery replaced. I went to uBreakiFix and I have no idea what battery they put in but the bottom line is a brand new battery didn't help much. I got a little better battery life but not as much as I had hoped. I'm assuming that it's either due to the apps I have installed and my usage or the phone is getting old and something is drawing a little more power than it used to. I have not gone to the trouble of factory resetting to see if that would help yet.
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Factory resets didn't help my old issue. Updating to the latest Android os helped immensely. As stated above I no longer have the initial issues. I estimate I now have about 70-80% capacity, which is not bad at all considering I bought my battery through Amazon for around $20.
I thought if you got your battery replaced at ubreakifix, then they are obligated to fix your issue or refund you your money.