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The only thing that is stopping me from pulling the trigger on the gtablet is the viewing angle issue that everyone is complaining about. Honestly I dont care how the screen looks if you are looking at it in an angle because one will always look straight into it anyways.. Other than this, what else is the issue with the screen?
Sears will be running a 10% off on this tomorrow AM bringing the price down to $342 and I need to make up my mind to grab it for that price.
Thanks in advance.
mspkash1 said:
The only thing that is stopping me from pulling the trigger on the gtablet is the viewing angle issue that everyone is complaining about. Honestly I dont care how the screen looks if you are looking at it in an angle because one will always look straight into it anyways.. Other than this, what else is the issue with the screen?
Sears will be running a 10% off on this tomorrow AM bringing the price down to $342 and I need to make up my mind to grab it for that price.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
I'seen the comments about th screen, and while I'm not an expert on LCDs, I've never understood the complaints.
The screen on mine is bright, at 80%, and I don't notice much problem even at angles. I keep wondering if some Gtabs have different LCDs!
Jim
Probably the biggest issue I have is the solarizing effect that occurs when the screen is tipped back, while in landscape. This is something that is noticeable if you have the tablet flat on a desk and you are trying to view the screen that way. You can work around it by flipping the screen, but that doesn't work with all applications.
I don't think portrait mode is so bad, as I usually look at that straight on (it might be slightly high in contrast but you can turn it slightly to fix that).
IMO, viewing angle is not an issue but .... a privacy feature!
Definitely not a deal breaker for me. There are times where I wish I could get a wider angle, such as flat on a desk. However, it works fine for the majority of uses.
mspkash1 said:
The only thing that is stopping me from pulling the trigger on the gtablet is the viewing angle issue that everyone is complaining about. Honestly I dont care how the screen looks if you are looking at it in an angle because one will always look straight into it anyways.. Other than this, what else is the issue with the screen?
Sears will be running a 10% off on this tomorrow AM bringing the price down to $342 and I need to make up my mind to grab it for that price.
Thanks in advance.
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Would be nice if they would run it at $349 again and the 10%. Let me know if they will give you the 10% on it as I will go get another.
Go check a Staples and see if they still have a demo unit out(they're apparently pulling it but some store might still have a demo unit out -- Sears just has a cheezy mockup...), or maybe an Office Depot...
The viewing angle really isn't so bad when you're using as I've found all the time that I'm holding or have it propped on my lap I have an almost dead view so the viewing angle limitation is not apparent.
As others have mentioned there have been a few times when I'd've liked a better viewing angle, such as when I have laying on the desktop while transferring files to it or having it do things and want a quick check of the screen status w/o have to crane over it...
My biggest remaining complaint is 10" form factor and weight, but mostly the 10" which makes it unwieldly which is why I'll eventually be adding a 7" to complement it, likely a Nook Color(NC) ATM although I'm resisting(strongly) running out and buying one any second now... (made it through Thursday & Friday w/o buying one... keep telling myself more tablets are on the way and to wait a bit although B&N seem to be the best at support so far, and given that they're still supporting the eInk Nook(Nook B&W? NBW?)...)
OTOH the 10" & weight allowed them to pack in a pretty decent battery, and I can manage a few days between charges which I'm sure no 7" will be able to manage, and especially not the NC... going to have to charge every night, and watch screen brightness & WiFi usage...
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Since I added in the Sears line above, it's funny I went to Sears to buy one of those crappy cases(VS $6 one), and the sales guy was laughing about how they have almost nothing in stock... He mentioned that because I asked if they had any other cases than that one, and he said that's it.. going on to mention of the two netbooks on display only the ASUS was in stock, they had 1 HDMI cable, 2 VGA cables(not sure what he meant by this one), a couple of ipods... pretty sad... I can't help but wonder if all Sears stores are like that or just that one... if they're all like that Sears is in trouble...
The Sylvania tablet display had disappeared too, since I was last there in mid-November... still had the white & black PDNs on display, along with a lone Sony eInk reader...
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I got mine site unseen and also struggled with all the negativity before opening it. I finally broke down and gave it a go and can say I really love the device. Sure, the screen is probably its weakest link but far from the bleek picture painted in most reviews.
I guess many sites are holding the Gtab up to iPad standards. The screen is just a regular old netbook LCD. Viewing angles are made for landscape and looking down at 45 degrees. Everything outside that is pretty poor but typically that is how I hold the thing and the viewing angle doesn't bother me. Portrait is another story and if you want this thing to be an e-book reader (or anything) in that form factor then you will be sorely disappointed.
Viewing angle sucks big time and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify and otherwise good amchine they purchase and spent a lot of time getting to work properly.
It is a pain to type on in any kind of angle as the most comfortable angles make screen look negative polarity.
For straight on viewing I agree it's nice
I just got mine in sears with a 5% discount off of $379. I know the stock rom is junk and I dont even care as i'll flash it with vegan or tnt. I am trying hard to like the screen. In portrait mode, when viewing web pages, the text is alright but the pictures have this solarizing effect which I am not able to get over with.. darn.. why didnt they put a good screen on this otherwise a good power house.. will play around lil bit before deciding if i should keep it or send her back
Hi Guys,
Are all variants of the Malata tablet (including the GTablet) have the same LCD screen? I want a 10" Tegra 2 tablet with a better screen.
Thanks.
Canadoc said:
Viewing angle sucks big time and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify and otherwise good amchine they purchase and spent a lot of time getting to work properly.
It is a pain to type on in any kind of angle as the most comfortable angles make screen look negative polarity.
For straight on viewing I agree it's nice
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You HAVE to have a different screen than the one I got. I can't get it to go negative no matter what angle I turn it too. The wife and I browsed the web for hours tonight and it worked perfectly, the viewing angle is much better than her hp laptop.
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Maybe different batches have different screens. Mine is terrible if I hold it in portrait and look at it straight on. I have to tilt it to one side to make it usable unless it's completely dark.
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Maybe different batches have different screens. Mine is terrible if I hold it in portrait and look at it straight on. I have to tilt it to one side to make it usable unless it's completely dark.
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My gtab has same problem in portrait.
cyberbillp said:
You HAVE to have a different screen than the one I got. I can't get it to go negative no matter what angle I turn it too. The wife and I browsed the web for hours tonight and it worked perfectly, the viewing angle is much better than her hp laptop.
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You mind telling us where you got the GTab, and when? And your model # on the box? I wouldn't discount the possibility that you might have slightly different device than the rest of us.
I know that bekit had gotten a device that had different partitions than the "norm" - maybe the LCD is different, as well. All speculation, of course.
The viewing angle was the only thing I was worried about on this device prior to purchase as this was the main complaint, but after receiving it, its not as bad as some people made it to be, really some people are just really picky. I'm usually really anal about these things too but it is really not that bad.
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Maybe different batches have different screens. Mine is terrible if I hold it in portrait and look at it straight on. I have to tilt it to one side to make it usable unless it's completely dark.
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Ditto whoever says it is good must own a white and orange cane
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Ditto whoever says it is good must own a white and orange cane
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There's a difference between good and good enough. The screen is good enough. Could be better, but works fine. I think most "positive" responses are of similar mind.
My workaround is to place a gum eraser underneath the top of the unit when I'm using it at the kitchen counter. The extra 1 1/2" of tilt helps viewing and the eraser doesn't slip.
An annoyance but definitely not a show stopper for me....
Can someone post a picture of what this viewing angle issue. I see so many references too it, bit I can't get a good visual of what people are taking about
I want to get the G-Tablet. It's a powerful device and it seems that VEGAn-TAB, TnT Lite, Cyanogenmod, and zPad are gonna support this thing for a LONG time. The only thing I'm concerned about is the screen. Is it really as horrible as everyone says it is?
Some people say it's no big deal, and some people say it makes their eyes hurt. I don't care about viewing angles; I'm sure I won't be laying it on a flat tabletop trying to use it. But the supposed screen issues are making me want to wait to see what MSI, Moto, and Asus reveal at CES. It seems like all those tablets will be awesome, but will they be as hackable as the G-Tablet? The G-Tablet is like a Nexus Tab.
Are there any pics that will give me an idea of how the screen looks? Are there demos set up at Office Depot?
I wouldn't expect anything from Moto to be easily hackable as their current lineup suggests. The viewing angles in portrait are nothing to right home about but they are not that bad in landscape. I got my latest one at Office Depot and they had one display. I'm sure there will be better things coming but due to the great devs here this should be a great device until something very much better comes along. Roebeet posted some pics of the viewing angles but I couldn't find them easily
The viewing angles are bad, but other than that the screen is fine. From straight on (especially in landscape) it's a pretty nice image. If you aren't worried about the viewing angles, then there's nothing to worry about the screen
What about using it flat on the table? Lets say normal viewing/using when its laying flat on the table.. I am not concerned with others being able to see it.. just when I am using it on a table flat I want to to be viewable with at least 80% of the quality..
Also.. what about portrait.. does it give that "3D" effect with one eye having a different contrast than the other?
If any of you have a netbook.. take the netbook and stand it portrait and look directly at the screen.. You will know what I mean..
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The viewing angles are bad, but other than that the screen is fine. From straight on (especially in landscape) it's a pretty nice image. If you aren't worried about the viewing angles, then there's nothing to worry about the screen
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Find a store that has one on display. Staples used to and I think office depot still does.
Office depot has them on display. The last time i was there to buy a case i updated their display model to the newest viewsonic rom.
If you can't find one in the store, you can use any standard netbook screen as a good example - turn it back and forth and you'll see the solarization effect.
The screen is the #1 hardware issue I have with the device, which is ironic given that this was released by Viewsonic. As time has progressed, it's become an actual annoyance to me, so much so that it could (in all seriousness) be the main reason why I eventually sell mine. Portrait mode actually hurts my eyes after a short time, and trying to watch movies while the screen is layed back 45 degrees is completely useless.
I keep hoping that we can get a better LCD solution, as i would do that if it were possible.
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What about using it flat on the table? Lets say normal viewing/using when its laying flat on the table.. I am not concerned with others being able to see it.. just when I am using it on a table flat I want to to be viewable with at least 80% of the quality..
Also.. what about portrait.. does it give that "3D" effect with one eye having a different contrast than the other?
If any of you have a netbook.. take the netbook and stand it portrait and look directly at the screen.. You will know what I mean..
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If it's lying flat on a table 6" to a foot in front of you and you are sitting "properly" (back against backrest) the image is borderline unusable. you have to hunch over it to get the straight on view.
In portrait, you are correct, it very much has the "3D" effect. I can't really use it that way without getting annoyed/headache.
Needless to say the screen is a deal breaker for me. I'm going to play with this tablet for a week or so and return it and wait for the good stuff to come that gets announced at CES. With that said i fully expect to have to pay at a minimum one hundred more than for this tablet. This tablet is really a steal at 400 if you can live with the screen.
Appreciate the honesty... It sounds like it would be a deal breaker for me... Last night I was playing around with all the android phones at the new years party and then the ipads that were laying around and have to say.. that screen is just amazing... but love the openness of the Android platform..
The net net is... the Apple OS is nothing to dismiss and the screen is the cherry on top...
If these vendors dont put in what is needed into the screen, coupled with I would say a very immature platform it will take at least 2 generations before it catches mass acceptance...
Lets see what this week has in store at CES..
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If you can't find one in the store, you can use any standard netbook screen as a good example - turn it back and forth and you'll see the solarization effect.
The screen is the #1 hardware issue I have with the device, which is ironic given that this was released by Viewsonic. As time has progressed, it's become an actual annoyance to me, so much so that it could (in all seriousness) be the main reason why I eventually sell mine. Portrait mode actually hurts my eyes after a short time, and trying to watch movies while the screen is layed back 45 degrees is completely useless.
I keep hoping that we can get a better LCD solution, as i would do that if it were possible.
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Thanks for all the replies. I was going to wait for CES anyway, but now I'm thinking I'll wait for MSI's WindPad 110 regardless. The internal hardware is probably very similar and the device will probably be more polished and more supported. Hopefully in the future we'll see VEGAn-TAB or zPad on it
I am one of those owners who wanted to love the G Tablet. I had stars in my eyes when I snapped it up at my local Office Depot.
The screen absolutely killed it for me though.
I am a long time tablet user (mostly on Nokia Tablets). I love the form factor. Just waiting for someone to do it right. From what I can gather thus far, G Tablet is that device who can live with the screen, Nook Color is the device for those who don't mind a lack of buttons, and Galaxy Tab is for those who don't mind paying through the nose to not give in to Apple.
I still love mine, regardless of the screen. I knew about the viewing angles going in and checked it out at OfficeDepot before buying (they had a live one on display). In landscape you can easily get a good viewing angle while holding it, it's not so bad that you have to constantly hunt for the right angle. In portrait it's not so great, my use case for the tablet is 90% hand held and in landscape so I'm alright with this. On a table you would definitely want to prop it up at an angle, if you can do that it would be fine but laying flat is a no go unless you want to slouch way over the tablet.
I have a Nexus One, so I know what a good screen looks like. Honestly, the gtab doesn't bother me. I hold it pretty much straight on, or flip it upside down sometimes when browsing, and it's just not a big deal to me. Sometimes when it's on my lap I'll put a remote control under the top of the screen to prop it just a touch.
I'd also add that just because new tabs get announced at CES doesn't mean they'll be available next week. I bet most won't come out until March, with Honeycomb. I'm quite happy to have the gtab to play with until then.
I hope you guys won't mind me barging in here to ask a quick question. It is about the screen (okay, sort of).
Lets say I wanted to use my GTablet on a table, is there any good stands to put it on so that I can use it and not have to hunch over as I usually do (it hurts my back sometimes not to mention just plain awkward)?
I just thought there might be a particular kind or model that is the best that the GTablet would stay on securely. If not, I'll just locate some general-type stand and use that.
The screen is why I returned my unit. I don't expect too much from MSI, their netbooks also had horrible screens. Also, do not expect anything in 10.1 to be iPad similar. All the 10.1" screens are TN ****.
Folks,
I have a question -- what is all the big deal about tables?
If I want to work on a table, I use my netbook or my laptop or even go to the computer room and use my desktop.
I use my tablet sitting in a chair holding it or letting it rest in my lap. Or sometimes I set it on a picture holder on the desktop while I access my desktop. Or I lay on the bed with it sitting on my belly or chest (HO! HO! HO!) Or in the car my wife holds it while she plays games. IMHO, tablets are designed to be used portably and that means getting it in front of you in your hands or on an appropriate holder.
Yes, my view angles are not shiny either. But I don't use it in ways that make that a factor. I have adapted to maximize it. As someone said, looking at the screen what I call normally it puts out a great picture.
Rev
P. S. -- Not trying to start a flame war. I just think some people are expecting too much of a reasonable-priced just-introduced product. Nothing -- not even (especially) the fruity products -- is perfect. IMHO.
butchconner said:
Folks,
I have a question -- what is all the big deal about tables?
If I want to work on a table, I use my netbook or my laptop or even go to the computer room and use my desktop.
I use my tablet sitting in a chair holding it or letting it rest in my lap. Or sometimes I set it on a picture holder on the desktop while I access my desktop. Or I lay on the bed with it sitting on my belly or chest (HO! HO! HO!) Or in the car my wife holds it while she plays games. IMHO, tablets are designed to be used portably and that means getting it in front of you in your hands or on an appropriate holder.
Yes, my view angles are not shiny either. But I don't use it in ways that make that a factor. I have adapted to maximize it. As someone said, looking at the screen what I call normally it puts out a great picture.
Rev
P. S. -- Not trying to start a flame war. I just think some people are expecting too much of a reasonable-priced just-introduced product. Nothing -- not even (especially) the fruity products -- is perfect. IMHO.
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If this is cause I came in here asking about that (instead of making a new topic or just keeping that to myself), then I'm sorry.
It almost seems like that post was directed at me (not saying that in a mean way, more of 'aww *sad face* way).
I was the one who came in here in this topic asking about that specifically. Never mind about that, then.
XANAVirus said:
I hope you guys won't mind me barging in here to ask a quick question. It is about the screen (okay, sort of).
Lets say I wanted to use my GTablet on a table, is there any good stands to put it on so that I can use it and not have to hunch over as I usually do (it hurts my back sometimes not to mention just plain awkward)?
I just thought there might be a particular kind or model that is the best that the GTablet would stay on securely. If not, I'll just locate some general-type stand and use that.
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This has been discussed in the accessories portion of the forums, but what i use that works great is a nice little china plate stand thingy that my wife had bought for some china she wanted to put in the china closet, looks like a wire hanger type thing cost her 2 bucks and works amazing for the tablet on the table so i dont need to "hunch over". im sure you can get it at any store like staples or something like that, dont know exactly where she got it from.
hope this helps.
Some people say that the sceen is defective becase of the poor viewing angle. That is wrong. The screen is not defective. It is just a lower priced screen which in the end translates in a lower price for the tablet. A better screen would increase the price.
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Some people say that the sceen is defective becase of the poor viewing angle. That is wrong. The screen is not defective. It is just a lower priced screen which in the end translates in a lower price for the tablet. A better screen would increase the price.
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or them just putting the screen on the right way and not upside down like it seems they did since turning it upside down works perfectly.
I have a S8+, and one thing that really annoys me is how there is about an inch or so at the top of the homescreen that can't be used for icons or widgets. Normally I would put the Google search bar there, but the highest it can go is about an inch off the notification bar at the top. *Really* annoying to have that space and not use it...
I don't really want to replace the launcher (at least not within 2 days of a brand new phone), so is there a way around it? Or do we have to wait until Samsung realises that the screen aspect ratio is slightly longer that a normal phone, and fixes the issue...
While I'm at it, is there a way to change the icon for a folder to use a specific icon (eg. first app in folder), rather than the usual bad looking (to my eyes at least) tiny apps inside the folder look? Otherwise I'm back to using Folder Organizer I guess... I know Nova probably sorts this all out, but it never 100% agreed with me for whatever reason and I always reverted eventually.
Finally, is there a way to get the AOD screen to appear on a clear flip case? Obviously it's being clever by turning off the display when the flip case is closed (magnet thingy embedded in the case), but as the case is clear(ish) then it defeats the point. Nice if there was a switch in options to keep the AOD screen active even if a case is closed on it, but I cannot find it...
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I never noticed it left that much space… . now it bugs me lol.
Yeah, it leaves a lot of space. Not sure why. You could fit another row of icons easily, but no go currently.
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Yeah, it leaves a lot of space. Not sure why. You could fit another row of icons easily, but no go currently.
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Fair enough. Thought as much. I'll give it a month, see if I reach unheard levels of OCD, and then install Nova if Samsung don't update. Will be about by 10th Nova install, but I always revert eventually. Always something that annoys me with it...
Stupid really, especially as it seems pretty obvious that it's about the right amount of space you gain from the extra length of the S8. Would bet the farm that Samsung forgot the new aspect ratio when it came to this. Honestly, there must be months of testing, and it's hard to believe it was missed.... Unless of course everyone at Samsung just installed Nova... Wouldn't be too surprised...
That AOD issue with the clear flip screen is well annoying though.... Really is a massive pain, especially when you can see right through the case, and even still use the touch screen (useful for answering calls without opening the case). Samsung does an amazing job on the screen, and then their own case has a compatibility issue....
Hmm, just noticed something... First day using while working, and a couple of times while wirelessly charging it has lost the wifi signal. Never (really really rarely) did that with my old Nexus 5. Don't like that considering I clicked on a notification icon on the AOD and it then tells me my network connection isn't available (and then connects before removing the notification so I don't know what it is). That's annoying... Sleep mode or something for wifi? Think I remember something similar years ago... Anyone?
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Use Nova Launcher and problem solved
@Crivensie, sounds like you're a bit like me. Nothing wrong with high expectations. About Samsung's testing though...I am not sure how thoroughly they test things because I found many bugs on the phone so far and I wasn't even trying. I'm not surprised at all at the issues you're having.
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Use Nova Launcher and problem solved
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Like in Nova we can lock screen so Icons/widgets do not get delted by mistake
can we do that here in Samsung
I am starting to have a love/hate relationship with this phone. I love it. It hates me. (I'm including the whole story in case others have came across any of these other issues that I have, because at this point in time I feel like I could take this thing apart and put it back together in my sleep).
I bought one for a good price on ebay, get it and all is well for about 2 weeks. The case starts to appear to start splitting. I take the back off and the battery is swelling. I could have sent the phone back, but I found a battery for $12 and so I replaced it. Everything's working great.
About 2 weeks after that, I was walking up the stairs at work and tripped, the phone caught the corner of my wrist and the bottom left part of the screen shattered. I find a new screen/assembly and think, for $50 I got this...
After watching pretty much every video on YouTube, I'm feeling confident and get started. The screen came with the basic took kit and each of the two "guitar pic" type tools were destroyed in the process. (I even tried an actual guitar pic, ineffective and flimsy). Good basic concept with those, but they are pretty much a one time use thing. Glad there were two.
I tested the new screen before I took the whole thing apart, every test passed with flying colors. Take everything apart, attach the new screen, get to the end (the one part of the video I apparently failed to really pay attention to) the proper way to pop the screen back in. Get to the last part of that and crack. The screen, with very little pressure, cracks as the top left. Not bad, it was still usable. But I was so disappointing.
I was pretty bummed out and hobbled along. I should have went with the same source, but I ended up getting another screen from another source and when it finally arrived, I didn't think about it, and went ahead and took the phone apart, put everything on the new frame, getting ready to pop it on the back cover, decide to test it then. No response what so ever from the touch screen. It would power on, but nothing would make it swipe to the lock screen. (I also noticed in the top corner "No Service" (an issue that I have since seen people get but no real reliable fix). I put the old screen on. Works like a champ, take everything apart a couple more times thinking maybe I didn't get something right. Nothing. I contact the vendor and he is awesome and he sends me a free replacement.
This time I test the screen. Right off the bat I get Touch Disable Mode. Crap. Look up that and find the Settings Database editor solution. (I tried the volume up + power but as soon as the screen locked it enabled again). Screen passes all other test, but now there is that lingering "No Service" issue. I never really figured out what fixed that. But this is what I did. 1. took all of the red film off of the new screen, Now the phone shows my carrier, but still no service. So I did a factory reset. and Voila, good to go.
Which brings me to now. I have the new screen ready to go in and I notice 1 part that is throwing me off.
I really don't want to take this apart again...
I don't have a pic of the original screen as my phone is currently in pieces... But this is what I came up with if anyone has any ideas on how I should approach this, and what is the significance of this part? I can't find anything on it. From here on out said part shall be called "flappy thing":
The top two screens in the pic are two screens I now have in possession.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/picture.php?albumid=15076&pictureid=57893
Finally was able to link the image.
My wife and I got ours yesterday. I got the clearly white, her the oh so black. Both 64GB versions.
So, the good first:
Look at feel: I really like the frame. It just feels nicer and way higher quality than both my 2xl and 2xl. It's grippy too. It doesn't feel like it'll slip out of my hands. The glass back is nice too. I'm very glad they finally ditched the two tone. I think it's awful. I had the 3xl, and after like a day I was over the notch. Didn't think about it too much after. After having this phone for about 5 seconds I can say I'm way happier with the forehead. It's not very big at all either.
Screen:
I like the form factor better than the previous two. It's a little skinnier, which is great because with a case it felt just a little to big in my hands (I don't have small hands either). It's also taller, which I also like. The display is better too. I put it next to my 3xl, and it definitely looks better.
Face ID:
I have some good and bad on this one. Bad will be below. The good, it works VERY well. I haven't had one problem yet getting it to unlock. I don't even have to be looking directly at the phone, nor the phone straight at me. I haven't really used smart unlock either. The face unlock works so well I don't think I need it.
Speed:
This phone is very smooth. Much better than my 3xl. The main thing that I didn't like on the 3 was the swipe up and hold for recents. It was kind of glitchy. If I had something open that could scroll, it would a bit before it popped up to recents. Not a problem on this one. I haven't noticed any glitchiness whatsoever yet. I haven't done a ton on it yet though.
Battery:
So far, not bad! It seems to be draining about 3% per hour. I have the AOD on too. Also, it unlocks pretty easy, so, I've had to re-lock it several times.
And the bad:
Face ID:
So, not entirely sold on this. I don't like that almost no apps support it for starters. I use a lot of banking/credit card/etc. apps, and I use long passwords for those. I'm really missing the fingerprint scanner there. The other main gripe is it unlocks way too easy. The tap to wake is sensitive, and if I bump my desk, or pickup my phone more abruptly, it goes to the lockscreen then unlocks immediately. I've had to re-lock my phone several times sitting at work because it keeps waking up when I move around. I also can't just look at notifications on the lockscreen nor answer them from it. It just immediately unlocks no matter what. There's a setting that says it can ask you to confirm screen unlock once it scans the face, but apparently it doesn't work. No go there.
Soli:
So far, I haven't really gotten it to work. Last night I tried to skip a song to the next, it went back a song instead. After that I couldn't get it to work. Since the forehead isn't that big because of it, I don't mind. I'm hoping that they actually get this right and find more applications where it can be used for things.
Edit: Have to add one more thing to the bad:
AOD notifications. They now popup at the top of the screen. No like. I think they're easier to see underneath the AOD clock and such.