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Hey all. Have anybody experiences with the Note 5 Spen on the Note 4?
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I don't think so. Besides even if it did work where are you gonna put it? I don't believe it'll fit inside the holder.
This isn't an answer to the question in the OP, but a personal observation that may help (?).
I have both the Note 4 (obviously) and a Note 10.1 2014 edition tablet. The tablet is older than the Note 4, and it's s pen works on my Note 4. However, the Note 4's s pen won't work at all on my tablet. I can't tap, scroll, or even use the button.
So my assumption is that older s pens can work on newer devices (+/- accuracy or something), but newer s pens won't work on older devices.
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spexwood said:
This isn't an answer to the question in the OP, but a personal observation that may help (?).
I have both the Note 4 (obviously) and a Note 10.1 2014 edition tablet. The tablet is older than the Note 4, and it's s pen works on my Note 4. However, the Note 4's s pen won't work at all on my tablet. I can't tap, scroll, or even use the button.
So my assumption is that older s pens can work on newer devices (+/- accuracy or something), but newer s pens won't work on older devices.
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That's a pretty good observation +1
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I have both too. The Note 4 and 2014 edition and I can use both fully. the only difference is that the s-pen from the 2014 edition is a little bit longer
I've bought one from America and hope to get it soon and will give you a feedback than
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I have both too. The Note 4 and 2014 edition and I can use both fully. the only difference is that the s-pen from the 2014 edition is a little bit longer
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Do you mean that you can use the Note 4's pen on the tablet too? Because mine doesn't work at all.
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Jep 100% actually I have the stock 5.1.1 on my tablet and it works perfectly
The tablet s-pen on the Note 4 and otherwise
I've bought this one and hope it works and I can put in the the Note 4 too
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Jep 100% actually I have the stock 5.1.1 on my tablet and it works perfectly
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Well, I don't want to derail this thread, but it's odd that my Note 4 s pen doesn't work on my tablet running stock 4.4.2 (There's no update for the p600 model).
Edit.
Looks like if you have "Disable Pen Detection" unchecked on your table's settings, then the Note 4's S pen works. I've always kept this option checked, which makes the N4 S pen not work.
So I change my initial asdumption. Any S pen should work as long as you uncheck "Turn Off Pen Detection" on your phone's settings.
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The touch part and button work, but I don't think it'll fit properly in the note 4. I didn't cram the s pen in the slot and stopped as soon as I felt resistance. It's not really locked in place and can fall out easily. Maybe you are braver than I and try to push it in deeper. Also, the phone didn't recognize the note 5 pen being inserted.
I hope it will it looks awesome and I think it feels awesome, too. I hope so ^^
it don't looks like to so much differences.. I think the biggest difference are at the touch part or the beginning. the length is the same.
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here the bottom part
What does not fit is made to fit
I will make some pictures when it does arrive and show you the results
They don't have the same body shape. They are both rectangular with rounded corners, but the note 5's pen is more rounded and I think a little slimmer. It is looser in the Note 4 slot. The Note 4's pen doesn't even go in the Note 5 at all. I guess you can maybe add some tape to thicken it up and should stay in by friction. I just don't know how to get the Note 5 pen to be recognized in the Note 4 pen slot.
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I will make some pictures when it does arrive and show you the results
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Hi, did you recieved the Note 5 pen and tried to put it in Note 4? Does it fit and does it work?
Thanks
I've got myself a Samsung Galaxy S8+ (G955FD) about two weeks ago and this morning I had a camera blur issue.
Upon Googling I noticed that a lot of people out there have the same issue and a tap on the top (right corner) of the device fixes this.
(Supposedly switching to pro mode would fix it as well, but couldn't verify since the aforementioned solution fixed my issue, for now.)
What I also found out is that Samsung is shipping these phones with 2 different camera modules: Sony IMX333 or Samsung ISOCELL SLSI_S5K2L2_FIMC_IS (I'm focusing on the rear-facing camera, since that's where the issue is at).
According to a poll on this forum, most (+-63% as of now) people have the ISOCELL camera module.
What I'd like to research is whether there is a correlation between one of the modules and the camera blur issue.
So if you'd all be so kind to find out what sensor you've got (i.e. by downloading the AIDA64 app from the google play store and clicking on "Devices" in the app) and voting on this poll accordingly, it'd be much appreciated!
Update:
My previous Galaxy S8+ got stolen (24/02/18), bought a new one, the same seller, exact same model with the exact same camera module, and I haven't experienced the blur once. (knock on wood)
So, it would seem that some camera modules are just defect and need to be replaced. This is in accordance with what I've read from multiple users around the internet.
I was going to bring mine in for repair (to a Samsung experience center), but the phone got stolen before I could do so. If anyone does bring it in to get it fixed: let the other's know how that worked out for you!
Cheers
I personally have the exynos s8 with both Isocell cameras. I don't have any kind of blurr on the left upper corner, they are complete on the right upper corner in my pictures, basicly in any picture taken in automode.
But whats way worse is that damn focusblurr. If you try to make a picture from somethin smaller (some inches) from around 6-8 inches away you always get a top sharp center picture with completely blurred, undetailed sorroundings.
I own the S8 since 06/2017 and I tried a lot. Also it is not a defect, every s8 exynos is exactly the same (couldn't try a snapdragon so far). Came from the Honor 7 and this phone was able to perform way (way!) better in macro shots. And yes, it doesn't matter which mode your in with this issue.
Snap dragon, no blur nice pics
If i use the Note 10+ spen with Note 20 ultra will I still get the 9ms latency ? And will all new air gestures work , Im planning to buy a replacement Spen and the Note 10+ spen is almost half the price of Note 20s.
When I tried air gestures with the Note 10's spen, it wouldn't work.
princeasi said:
When I tried air gestures with the Note 10's spen, it wouldn't work.
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Bec you should pair the pen with the phone first
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Bec you should pair the pen with the phone first
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Did it work you? Initially I was able to write with it except the air gestures.
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Did it work you? Initially I was able to write with it except the air gestures.
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Yes it works put note 10 pen in the note 20 then go to spen settings and reset spen then allow multiple spens from settings also
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If i use the Note 10+ spen with Note 20 ultra will I still get the 9ms latency ? And will all new air gestures work , Im planning to buy a replacement Spen and the Note 10+ spen is almost half the price of Note 20s.
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It will work once you connect it, but you will NOT get 9ms latency. That Note 10 S pen had around 42ms latency from my understanding. Samsung says that the new Pen has had its acceleration sensors and gyroscope enhanced so that it receives coordinates more frequently, also improved the reaction time of the S Pen by using in-house technology to write directly on the screen buffer.
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It will work once you connect it, but you will NOT get 9ms latency. That Note 10 S pen had around 42ms latency from my understanding. Samsung says that the new Pen has had its acceleration sensors and gyroscope enhanced so that it receives coordinates more frequently, also improved the reaction time of the S Pen by using in-house technology to write directly on the screen buffer.
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After some search the Spen it self has nothing to do with the latency , the note 20 & Note 20 ultra use the same spen but with different latency it is a factor of screen controller itself and the AI of the software , and for improved accelerometer & Gyroscope the Note 10 spen works with the all gestures of Note 20 normally , Im sure now they are the same Spen with different colors
Can say for a fact the 2 pens are different in some way. Air Actions only works with a Note 20 pen.
My Note 10 pen works for everything else.
Tidbits said:
Can say for a fact the 2 pens are different in some way. Air Actions only works with a Note 20 pen.
My Note 10 pen works for everything else.
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For air actions to work you should pair the note 10 spen with note 20 , insert the note 10 pen in the note 20 then choose reset spen from the settings ” attached picture ”
Then allow use multiple spens
Interesting enough my pen doesn't want to pair.
This may be a bit of a cheat, but when I received my Note 8, I contacted Samsung support because the clicky top was wobbling, I sent them a video to show them and they sent me a warranty replacement. The new one did the same thing, so could have just been the design. Might be worth a try with this new phone...
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Anyone figure out how to connect the note 10 spen to the note 20 ultra. I have two note 10 spens and they will not connect no matter what I do. I have plugged it in and chose reset. I let my note 20 pen battery die and then try it. I even tried wiping the data for the air command app and still nothing. I'm assuming like everything Samsung does, they are forcing your to buy a new note 20 pen.
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Anyone figure out how to connect the note 10 spen to the note 20 ultra. I have two note 10 spens and they will not connect no matter what I do. I have plugged it in and chose reset. I let my note 20 pen battery die and then try it. I even tried wiping the data for the air command app and still nothing. I'm assuming like everything Samsung does, they are forcing your to buy a new note 20 pen.
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Did you try the setting allow multiple S-Pens?
warriorvibhu said:
Did you try the setting allow multiple S-Pens?
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Yes. The pen writes on the screen but will not pair...when I try pairing it just fails.
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Yes. The pen writes on the screen but will not pair...when I try pairing it just fails.
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At first it worked with Note 20 ultra and some reviewers reported it working , but then Samsung disabled it with the first official update
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At first it worked with Note 20 ultra and some reviewers reported it working , but then Samsung disabled it with the first official update
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Figured that Samsung would do some bull**** like that so they can squeeze a few extra bucks out of everyone. Completely rediculous just like not including headphones or the spen tips. Thanks for the update.
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At first it worked with Note 20 ultra and some reviewers reported it working , but then Samsung disabled it with the first official update
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Lol... it wouldn't surprise me. If the update is software not firmware just uninstall the software update and go with the factory load version. I've had to do that with a couple apks... cheap tricks count.
The new spen has longer uptime on its cap/battery too if my memory serves me correctly. Was reading a good write up on it about 2 weeks ago but can't find that info now.
Just bite the bullet
Damn spens are born with a bulls eye on them, no doubt.
With a hard drop even in a good case they love to pop out. Cute.
You have to carefully approach the downed note least you inadvertently step on it's spen or leave it behind.
I got the Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 FE. I am NOT sure how to charge the S-Pen. Nothing in YouTube or the manuals in samsung site. I see some reviews that it can't be wireless (or bluetooth?) charged. I attach it to the back of the tablet but not sure whether it's charging.
Also, I am unable to check how much battery is left on the S-Pen as well? Any ideas?
The S-Pen which comes with the SGT S7 FE does not have the same bluetooth features as the regular SGT S7 or S7 Plus.
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The S-Pen which comes with the SGT S7 FE does not have the same bluetooth features as the regular SGT S7 or S7 Plus.
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I get it and that's why I am asking how to charge it and check the battery status.
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I get it and that's why I am asking how to charge it and check the battery status.
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Did you read my reply? Here is the short answer the S-Pen which comes with the Galaxy Tab 7 FE is not rechargable!!! It gets it power off the electromagnetic grid that is embedded in the display.
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Did you read my reply? Here is the short answer the S-Pen which comes with the Galaxy Tab 7 FE is not rechargable!!! It gets it power off the electromagnetic grid that is embedded in the display.
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Wow, your initial reply didn't say anything remotely close to the electromagnetic grid as it simply states that it doesn't have the bluetooth features like its bigger cousins.
In the reviews, I too found out that it doesn't have bluetooth features and only your reponse came close to how it gets its power. So, if it gets its power off of the grid, then isn't that superior to the bluetooth features as you don't need to charge it all?
Unfortunately, the Samsung support has no clue about how it gets charged as well. They keep reciting the features of S7+.
Anyways, thanks for the response.
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Wow, your initial reply didn't say anything remotely close to the electromagnetic grid as it simply states that it doesn't have the bluetooth features like its bigger cousins.
In the reviews, I too found out that it doesn't have bluetooth features and only your reponse came close to how it gets its power. So, if it gets its power off of the grid, then isn't that superior to the bluetooth features as you don't need to charge it all?
Unfortunately, the Samsung support has no clue about how it gets charged as well. They keep reciting the features of S7+.
Anyways, thanks for the response.
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My bad, I thought that you had a basic understanding of how the S-Pen works lol
The bluetooth features for bluetooth enabled S-Pen is to provide addition functions, like being able to use the S-Pen as a remote to take pictures on your Note 9/10/20. Or being able to use it to control the media player. Or allow you to use it as a wand to swipe up and down to change from the main camera to the front facing camera.
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My bad, I thought that you had a basic understanding of how the S-Pen works lol
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Gosh, I know how the SPen works and you don't even get my original question. Please read it and educate yourself if you are going to respond to my question.
Let's be clear, the answer to the question how do you charge the S pen included with the Tab S7 FE is you don't. It does not require charging. It has no battery. It is a dumb pen.
If you are talking about an S pen which has smart features and does require charging, i.e. one that did not come with your Tab S7 FE reviews suggest the Tab doesn't have the ability to charge those pens while the S7 non-FE does. If you wanted smart features I think you would have to use the S Pen Pro which charges via USB-C.
will the new tab s7 FE spen work with other Samsung models?
I understand spens are cross compatible between smartphone and tablet models. For example, the spen of a note 8 will work on a tab s7+ and vice versa.
It is important to clarify that this applies to the tip (nibs) of the spens. The obvious exception to this rule is the wireless functionality of the latest spen models with older smartphone/tablet models. But the basic works, that is, using the spen for handwriting and drawing.
Please corrent me if wrong.
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will the new tab s7 FE spen work with other Samsung models?
I understand spens are cross compatible between smartphone and tablet models. For example, the spen of a note 8 will work on a tab s7+ and vice versa.
It is important to clarify that this applies to the tip (nibs) of the spens. The obvious exception to this rule is the wireless functionality of the latest spen models with older smartphone/tablet models. But the basic works, that is, using the spen for handwriting and drawing.
Please corrent me if wrong.
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I just tested my S7 FE with the pen from my S6 Lite and it worked fine. I would assume any of the passive pens will work.
diehard2013 said:
will the new tab s7 FE spen work with other Samsung models?
I understand spens are cross compatible between smartphone and tablet models. For example, the spen of a note 8 will work on a tab s7+ and vice versa.
It is important to clarify that this applies to the tip (nibs) of the spens. The obvious exception to this rule is the wireless functionality of the latest spen models with older smartphone/tablet models. But the basic works, that is, using the spen for handwriting and drawing.
Please corrent me if wrong.
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Yes. All S-Pens will work on other Note and S-Pen enabled devices with the exception of the Galaxy Z Fold 3, as that has it's own dedicated S-Pen. Due to the more delicate display.
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Yes. All S-Pens will work on other Note and S-Pen enabled devices with the exception of the Galaxy Z Fold 3, as that has it's own dedicated S-Pen. Due to the more delicate display.
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Also add the Note 20 Ultra to that list of devices the basic (dumb) S-Pen will not work with. I tested it on my Tab S4 (my trade-in device for getting the S7 FE for $162) as well as my S7+ and it works with them, but not my Note 20 Ultra.
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Also add the Note 20 Ultra to that list of devices the basic (dumb) S-Pen will not work with. I tested it on my Tab S4 (my trade-in device for getting the S7 FE for $162) as well as my S7+ and it works with them, but not my Note 20 Ultra.
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Really, as I was able to use the S-Pen from my Note 8 on the retail demo unit of a Note 20 Ultra....
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Also add the Note 20 Ultra to that list of devices the basic (dumb) S-Pen will not work with. I tested it on my Tab S4 (my trade-in device for getting the S7 FE for $162) as well as my S7+ and it works with them, but not my Note 20 Ultra.
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The S pen that comes with the FE Tab works fine on my Note 20 Ultra, Well it touches etc, selects and swipes as much as a dump pen can
I know, I know, there are already other threads but this phone deserves them all: worst phone I've ever had in 13 years og Android devices.
So many micro-lags that make this phone un-usable: my 4 year old Pixel 4 runs better.
It's not a matter of speed or or power, it's a micro-lag problem that's so annoying and frustrating...
When on charge o connected to Android Auto things are even worst!!!
What specs S22U?
Specs? It's the Exynos model as per Subject.
8mb or 12mb ram etc specs
my s22 ultra 12/512 is perfect no lag (micro?) 50/55 hours battery no disconnection and is an italian exynos
most people with problems use apps with terrible use of background
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So many micro-lags that make this phone un-usable: my 4 year old Pixel 4 runs better.
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Could you describe in which apps you see those micro-lags and is it at playbacks or scrolling or whatever?
And if you have the 8/128GB or an 12/256+GB version would be interesting.
I have the 8/128 version.
Lags are everywhere, not in a specific app.
- Open Chrome, click on search bar and keyboard takes that little longer to show up
- Open contact app, click on a contact to start call and callscreen takes that little longer to show up
- swiping left or up from edges is a trial and error
According to many articles it's GPU throttling...
Oh and keyboard is impossible to use, toomany typos due to wrong key...
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I have the 8/128 version.
Lags are everywhere, not in a specific app.
- Open Chrome, click on search bar and keyboard takes that little longer to show up
- Open contact app, click on a contact to start call and callscreen takes that little longer to show up
- swiping left or up from edges is a trial and error
According to many articles it's GPU throttling...
Oh and keyboard is impossible to use, toomany typos due to wrong key...
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The 12/512 is pretty usable and not as bad as that at all but it is a bit stuttery and laggy Tbh it has similar performance to the P6P I had.
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I have the 8/128 version.
Lags are everywhere, not in a specific app.
- Open Chrome, click on search bar and keyboard takes that little longer to show up
- Open contact app, click on a contact to start call and callscreen takes that little longer to show up
- swiping left or up from edges is a trial and error
According to many articles it's GPU throttling...
Oh and keyboard is impossible to use, toomany typos due to wrong key...
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It seems the 8GB/128GB models (both Exynos and SD) are having these problems. Except for the keyboard issue. I am having some of the same issues on my S22 Ultra (12GB/512GB SD) and Tab S7. Which is weird because I use Swiftkey not the default Samsung keyboard.
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I have the 8/128 version.
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Like gernerttl wrote, the lags are mentioned more often for that versions.
Whyever, because the standard stuff you mentioned should not need more than 8 GB RAM.
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- Open Chrome, click on search bar and keyboard takes that little longer to show up
- Open contact app, click on a contact to start call and callscreen takes that little longer to show up
- swiping left or up from edges is a trial and error
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Maybe I am less sensible regarding this or my 12 GB variant does not have these issues.
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Oh and keyboard is impossible to use, toomany typos due to wrong key...
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This I know, but it is related to my typing skills.
8gb Exynos UK version, no lag here apart from the odd lag on Twitter, the UI is buttery smooth
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8gb Exynos UK version, no lag here apart from the odd lag on Twitter, the UI is buttery smooth
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I think that's a Twitter app issue. I have the 12GB/512GB SD model and I get a slight lag using the Twitter app.
12/256Gb UK model here, no problems at all with lag - cannot fault the phone tbh
Mine (exynos 12/256) unfortunetly too have sometimes lags and sometimes working very good- it's just lottery. For example yesterday after making only few photos phone just freezing for almost 1 min when i tryied exit from app.
I like this phone but software is all the time unstable. My almost 2 year fold 2 running smooth and stable all the time. Even my previous Note 9 running without similar unstable behavior via 2 years.
So i waiting for next and maybe next update for i hope more stable working.
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It seems the 8GB/128GB models (both Exynos and SD) are having these problems. Except for the keyboard issue. I am having some of the same issues on my S22 Ultra (12GB/512GB SD) and Tab S7. Which is weird because I use Swiftkey not the default Samsung keyboard.
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Welcome to the club!
no, also the 12/256 has micro lag issue and it's really annoying...When I'm entering android auto I have a lot of lag...Also on Snapchat, it's really annoying for a 1200 euro device to have this issues
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no, also the 12/256 has micro lag issue and it's really annoying...When I'm entering android auto I have a lot of lag...Also on Snapchat, it's really annoying for a 1200 euro device to have this issues
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I can confirm Android Auto.
Also J have read articles proving that tegardlwss of ram/rom the exynos version suffers stuttering and microlags missing on Snapdragon version.
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I can confirm Android Auto.
Also J have read articles proving that tegardlwss of ram/rom the exynos version suffers stuttering and microlags missing on Snapdragon version.
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The Snapdragon variant is no sweetheart.
It may have unsolvable chipset hardware issues.
For a 4um form factor chipset it's not doing so well with efficiency to the point where Samsung initially used throttle limiting by default because of thermal issues. The chipset is well heat piped/sinked in the S22U so that's not the cause.
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The Snapdragon variant is no sweetheart.
It may have unsolvable chipset hardware issues.
For a 4um form factor chipset it's not doing so well with efficiency to the point where Samsung initially used throttle limiting by default because of thermal issues. The chipset is well heat piped/sinked in the S22U so that's not the cause.
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Same problem on Xiaomi 12 Pro: I work with Xiaomi for device acceptance in H3G markets, and we got some delays on 12 Pro acceptance due to thermal issues, yet Snapdragon runs more smoother than exynos. The Xiaomi 12 Pro with snapdragon runs smooth and fast compared to s22u with exynos, trust me... (and Xiaomi has its sw bugs, yet runs better)
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Same problem on Xiaomi 12 Pro: I work with Xiaomi for device acceptance in H3G markets, and we got some delays on 12 Pro acceptance due to thermal issues, yet Snapdragon runs more smoother than exynos. The Xiaomi 12 Pro with snapdragon runs smooth and fast compared to s22u with exynos, trust me... (and Xiaomi has its sw bugs, yet runs better)
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It maybe in part because of other chipsets, peripherals or circuitry differences. Too big of a rush and not enough prototype testing...
Samsung is surrounded by their own dropped balls at this point. Almost 3 years of dud flagships now... I'm not impressed.