5g bands on pixel 5 vs 4a 5g - General Questions and Answers

The wife and i are looking to upgrade from our pixel 2 and 2 xl. I'm pretty annoyed that no current pixel offerings have a 1440p screen like my 2 xl, but I've otherwise been so happy with my pixel that I'm willing to make the concession.
The pixel 5 doesn't really wow me at all. Honestly, the only feature i really like is the water resistant. I hate these curved screens. But I'm a little confused about the 5g antennas. I know Verizon's 4a 5g will be mmwave, but does that mean it will have identical 5g performance to the pixel 5? Same speed, latency, and handoff to lte (in theory)? The pixel 5 lists many more 5g bands, but most are low frequency, which Verizon can't even use, right? Need some clarification here. Thanks.
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How does the SD 670 perform?

I was thinking about replacing my 2 XL. The 670 seems comparable to the 835 except marginally less performance and download speeds. I don't think the performance would be very noticeable, especially since I'm not a heavy user. Mostly browsing social media, Chrome, YouTube and occasionally PoGo. But does the 670 support carrier aggregation and dual channel WiFi?
I have a Nokia 7 Plus with the older Snapdragon 660 and that performs fine with everything i use it for, so the 670 will have no problems at all.
So far so good, I have a Note 8 for comparison and this feels snappier than the Note 8. It helps having a clean UI design, but I feel like I have a premium flagship.
It's fast, speedy, and smooth. I also have a 512gb Galaxy S10+ and it feels just as fast.
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No issues so far with 3a coming from S9.
Downloading all my apps and tinkering seemed to take longer but sorted it out over night. Now all seems right
I have the S9, OnePlus6T and now the Pixel 3a and I can honestly say there is not much of a noticeable difference between the three as far as speed and capabilities handling apps. The OnePlus 6T is slightly faster and smoother but that is to be expected with its better ram and chip. I had the Pixel 3 when it first came out and then later sold it but I can say the 3a is almost as good as that phone and for the price its a no brainer
Speed
I typically don't play games on my phones, but I have found the 3a just fine so far.
I just got a 3a coming from a 2XL. It feels just as smooth and I don't feel like I'm missing anything coming from it.
I'm using the SD 660 on my Lenovo yoga tab 3 plus.
Confirm previous posts about the speed for the SD6 series: it's a good deal!
Thanks for all your input. I got to try them out at Target and they seemed to perform well except when coming out of demo mode, but that is probably to be expected. And those displays are gorgeous. Now I just have to decide if I want the bigger screen or not.
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Archangel said:
I have the S9, OnePlus6T and now the Pixel 3a and I can honestly say there is not much of a noticeable difference between the three as far as speed and capabilities handling apps. The OnePlus 6T is slightly faster and smoother but that is to be expected with its better ram and chip. I had the Pixel 3 when it first came out and then later sold it but I can say the 3a is almost as good as that phone and for the price its a no brainer
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Nexus 5x has been reborn
I don't really agree with the above. If you're freshly restarted and just flipping about the GUI it's nice and smooth. When compared to the 6T side by side however it's slower. Not a huge thing and you need them sitting next to each other to notice, by itself it feels quite smooth. That's doing nothing: Once I have stuff up and running and am in my usual software scenario I get redraws fairly often while multi-tasking. Even something as simple as opening the main options can involve a stutter. This isn't flagship land and it shows. I'm not talking deal breaker material from my own point of view because there are a lot of other positive things going on at a decent price. I do notice a lack though when stacked up against a 6T, cant call it any other way.
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I don't really agree with the above. If you're freshly restarted and just flipping about the GUI it's nice and smooth. When compared to the 6T side by side however it's slower. Not a huge thing and you need them sitting next to each other to notice, by itself it feels quite smooth. That's doing nothing: Once I have stuff up and running and am in my usual software scenario I get redraws fairly often while multi-tasking. Even something as simple as opening the main options can involve a stutter. This isn't flagship land and it shows. I'm not talking deal breaker material from my own point of view because there are a lot of other positive things going on at a decent price. I do notice a lack though when stacked up against a 6T, cant call it any other way.
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Redraws are normal with Pixel devices. I've owned a 2 XL, 3 XL and just ordered a 3a XL. That's because they only want to put 4 gigs of RAM in their devices. I wish and hope Google gets off their pedestal and realize software can't fix everything. They need at least 6 GB of RAM. 8 would be nice and I want a telephoto lens on the back. That being said I'm sure it wouldn't stack up against a 6t. I had a 3t that was blazing fast for the time. Actually it would probably still hold up. Their software/UI is great too but the camera makes the difference.
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Yeah, I had a 3XL, traded it for the 6T. The notch and 1k price point just didn't work for me. I'm aware of the reason for the redraws, my 6T shows me using 5ish at most times and I've got 4 here. I'm still keeping it until the fall stuff comes out. It's no question gimped compared to the top dogs but I didn't pay top dog pricing and it has other positive attributes.
The SD660 should be fine.
Right now I'm on my Pixel XL (the original one) which is similar to the 3a in terms of performance and it runs fine with Android P.
How are graphic intense games / Real world reviews?
Hi all, I have the old Nexus 5 and I am in need of a new phone. My power button has went out on my Nexus 5... Ughhh....
I was thinking about getting the Pixel 3 XL but it is way to expensive (still)... $1000 bucks for a phone? No way!
I am looking for some real world reviews. Is anyone using their Pixel 3a in the USA and is using Cricket for the phone carrier?
Anyhow, I like to run custom ROM and I always Root my phones. I see that there are methods to do the Rooting but how difficult is it? I am a noob when it comes to line commands. I like it to be simple to root and on the Nexus 5 someone made a Windows program that rooted it. I have also used FWUL to work on my phones and using FWUL is great! You don't have to worry about drivers or anything like that.
How are games on the Pixel 3a? I am hooked on playing the game "Skullgirls" and it works ok on my Nexus 5 but I do have some major slowdowns.
My Nexus 5 has 2GB of RAM and the CPU is running a 2.26GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon but the new Pixel 3a is only running a Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 670
2.0GHz + 1.7GHz, 64Bit Octa-Core and it only has 4 GB of RAM.... is that really a huge improvement over my Nexus 5?
Thanks all!
Coming from a OnePlus 5 I notice no performance decrease. I've had my 3a for about 2 weeks and it runs as good, if not better than the OnePlus 5. I was worried about RAM, but have not had any issues so far.
Zander_Sig said:
Hi all, I have the old Nexus 5 and I am in need of a new phone. My power button has went out on my Nexus 5... Ughhh....
I was thinking about getting the Pixel 3 XL but it is way to expensive (still)... $1000 bucks for a phone? No way!
I am looking for some real world reviews. Is anyone using their Pixel 3a in the USA and is using Cricket for the phone carrier?
Anyhow, I like to run custom ROM and I always Root my phones. I see that there are methods to do the Rooting but how difficult is it? I am a noob when it comes to line commands. I like it to be simple to root and on the Nexus 5 someone made a Windows program that rooted it. I have also used FWUL to work on my phones and using FWUL is great! You don't have to worry about drivers or anything like that.
How are games on the Pixel 3a? I am hooked on playing the game "Skullgirls" and it works ok on my Nexus 5 but I do have some major slowdowns.
My Nexus 5 has 2GB of RAM and the CPU is running a 2.26GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon but the new Pixel 3a is only running a Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 670
2.0GHz + 1.7GHz, 64Bit Octa-Core and it only has 4 GB of RAM.... is that really a huge improvement over my Nexus 5?
Thanks all!
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yes it will be a huge upgrade over your nexus 5. i upgraded from a nexus 5x and the upgrade was huge. double the ram, a better and newer soc, the gpu of the soc is great, and it is way more power efficient than older socs. numbers are not everything.
Zander_Sig said:
Hi all, I have the old Nexus 5 and I am in need of a new phone. My power button has went out on my Nexus 5... Ughhh....
I was thinking about getting the Pixel 3 XL but it is way to expensive (still)... $1000 bucks for a phone? No way!
I am looking for some real world reviews. Is anyone using their Pixel 3a in the USA and is using Cricket for the phone carrier?
Anyhow, I like to run custom ROM and I always Root my phones. I see that there are methods to do the Rooting but how difficult is it? I am a noob when it comes to line commands. I like it to be simple to root and on the Nexus 5 someone made a Windows program that rooted it. I have also used FWUL to work on my phones and using FWUL is great! You don't have to worry about drivers or anything like that.
How are games on the Pixel 3a? I am hooked on playing the game "Skullgirls" and it works ok on my Nexus 5 but I do have some major slowdowns.
My Nexus 5 has 2GB of RAM and the CPU is running a 2.26GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon but the new Pixel 3a is only running a Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 670
2.0GHz + 1.7GHz, 64Bit Octa-Core and it only has 4 GB of RAM.... is that really a huge improvement over my Nexus 5?
Thanks all!
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I came from a OnePlus 6 (similar price to the 3A on the used market). Performance is noticeably worse, you get way more app reloads and loading apps takes an extra half a second. Battery life is about the same. Camera, speakers, vibration motor, screen quality (especially when very dim), and ergonomics are all much better on the 3A. And let's be honest, how much time do you spend switching between apps vs within an app? I sold my OnePlus 6 and am pretty happy with my 3A. Really enjoying a 1-handed phone with good battery life that isn't an expensive that you need to be precious with it. No case, no screen protector, if it breaks, I'll just replace it, no big deal.
Thanks all for the info. Would anyone be willing to download the "Skullgrils" game from the play store and give it a try on the Pixel 3a? It is a totally free game. No pop up or ads.
If you want to do this let me know and I will give you some ideas on how to stress out the Pixel 3a and see how it preforms.

Pixel 2 or Pixel 5?

I currently own a Pixel 2. A perfectly fine phone, with the one issue being that the battery life is starting to ebb away.
I was looking forward to getting the new Pixel 5 this year, and was loving the fact that the price was relatively low.... but...
Am I going to be switching to a slower phone? I'm particularly interested in taking photos. The 765G is already a sub-flagship chip, but then I see that they have stripped the Neural core out of the flagship pixel!
Is the Pixel 5 (which I believe has essentially the same camera set-up as the old Pixel 2), going to take worse pictures than the 3 year old Pixel 2, because the Pixel 2 has a visual core combined with the flagship (if old) Snapdragon 835, and the Pixel 5 just has the second rate (if faster on paper than the 835) 765G.
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I currently own a Pixel 2. A perfectly fine phone, with the one issue being that the battery life is starting to ebb away.
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Is the Pixel 5 (which I believe has essentially the same camera set-up as the old Pixel 2), going to take worse pictures than the 3 year old Pixel 2, because the Pixel 2 has a visual core combined with the flagship (if old) Snapdragon 835, and the Pixel 5 just has the second rate (if faster on paper than the 835) 765G.
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The 765G isn't bad at all, it beats, and by far, the 835. You'll really see a difference, and a good one.

Pixel 4a or realme x2 pro ?

Pixel 4a is offering better ui and 3 years of software update but with 730g. X2 pro is offering 855+ with 90hz refresh rate screen.Confused between them as need a phone for 3 years of use
My priorities - performance,camera,longevity
Camera you will always win with Pixel.
Performance the Pixel 4a is great as far as I can see, my other phone is One Plus 7pro and in day to day use I do not see much of a difference.
Pixel 4a 3 years of updates is a big deal for me, yes I will likely get a Pixel 5a or Pixel 6 in a year or year and a half but monthly patches seeing to next Android OS first it worth it.
I have not googled the X2 pro, is it $350 USD ?
Definitely the 4a.
Every reviewer is surprised about the 730g, i myself am too. I also have seen several benchmarks where you can see that the 730g is almost as fast as the 765g.
My recent devices are OnePlus 7 and 7 Pro, Mi9 and OnePlus Nord and the difference with the 4a is really minimal. I have the 4a for 2 days now and i love it!
Good to be back on stock Android, this is my first Pixel after the Nexus era.
And if camera is a important factor then the 4a is definitely your best choice.
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Camera you will always win with Pixel.
Performance the Pixel 4a is great as far as I can see, my other phone is One Plus 7pro and in day to day use I do not see much of a difference.
Pixel 4a 3 years of updates is a big deal for me, yes I will likely get a Pixel 5a or Pixel 6 in a year or year and a half but monthly patches seeing to next Android OS first it worth it.
I have not googled the X2 pro, is it $350 USD ?
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Will 730g be good for 3 years of use? I’m concerned with its performance.
If anyone could also tell me the update policy of x2 pro...... Like for how much year will it receive updates ?
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Will 730g be good for 3 years of use? I’m concerned with its performance.
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Lol. While not 'flagship' caliber the 730g is still potent and will certainly be relevant longer than most other chip sets. In 2-3 years there will likely be many other drivers enticing a new purchase; 4a feeling underpowered probably won't be one of them.
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Will 730g be good for 3 years of use? I’m concerned with its performance.
If anyone could also tell me the update policy of x2 pro...... Like for how much year will it receive updates ?
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I am sure the phone will work fine in 3 years, I tell you now I do not hold on phones for 3 years and when 5G is fully implemented I will want a 5G device.
I google the specs ... it is a year old and you are worried about obsolesce ?
They say you can upgrade it to Android 10 ? Nothing about Android 11.
It is more expensive.
Yes it has a Snapdragon 855+, I own a OnePlus 7Pro is has 855 and I do not regret the speed of the Pixel 4a

Best upgrade from a Pixel XL

Hi all, sorry if this isn't in the relevant section as I couldn't find one for the original Pixel XL that I have.
My question is, my phone is now stuck at Android 10 and showing signs of battery loss and low internet connectivity, Iv'e been a Google phone stalwart since the original Samsung Galaxy, LG Nexus etc but now need to upgrade.
I don't want to buy a lesser model than the new 6 which is due for release this year but not too fussed about 5g so what are my best options? Pixel 4 / 4a / 5?
Thanks for any replies.
Foxspeed said:
Hi all, sorry if this isn't in the relevant section as I couldn't find one for the original Pixel XL that I have.
My question is, my phone is now stuck at Android 10 and showing signs of battery loss and low internet connectivity, Iv'e been a Google phone stalwart since the original Samsung Galaxy, LG Nexus etc but now need to upgrade.
I don't want to buy a lesser model than the new 6 which is due for release this year but not too fussed about 5g so what are my best options? Pixel 4 / 4a / 5?
Thanks for any replies.
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I don't get the question. you want no less than a Pixel 6, but you're asking which to get the 4, 4a, or 5? They're all lesser than the pixel 6. I'd go for the pixel 4a 5g though (different generation than the 4a). It's like the the pixel 5 with a little bigger screen and a headphone jack. The upshot is that the retail price is $200 less. I got one for $220 after trading in my pixel 2xl.
Thanks for the reply and yeah sorry, I worded that wrong. I meant, I won't be opting for the 6 at this time due to costs. I see the 4a 5g to be a good option but unsure about the lack of 5g coverage in my area. Would it be worthwhile? I think I know the answer to my own question really! Google Pixel 4a 5g.
I've ordered the Google Pixel 4a 5g. Thanks.

Question Are you interested in switching to a Google Pixel 7 Pro?

Are you willing to spend as much or a little more on the new Google Pixel 7 Pro, which seems to be a best of smartphone?
If you want to know more about the Google Pixel 7 serie, go to read HERE
If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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It is rumored to use the Exynos 5300 modem. I have no idea if its gonna be any good.
Ref: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-7-3112003/
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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It is rumored to use the Exynos 5300 modem. I have no idea if its gonna be any good.
Ref: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-7-3112003/
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It turns out that the Pixel 6 Pro uses the Shannon A5123 5G modem made by Samsung, the Shannon 5511 sub-6GHz FR1 transceiver box, and the Shannon 5710 FR2 mmWave transceiver. The latter is missing from the non-US versions of the Pixel 6 Pro.
Subject to confirmation, the Pixel 7 Pro is said to use Samsung's Exynos 5300 modem
We'll just have to wait and see what modem Google uses for the 7 series and the 7 Pro in particular
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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From what I've heard, it will have a new modem. That's why I nearly surely will get the 7 Pro.
I am interested, my op10 pro goes back to amazon and I'll use OP7 pro.
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I am interested, my op10 pro goes back to amazon and I'll use OP7 pro.
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That bad ?
I wonder how long before the other brand offer similarly fast charging
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That bad ?
I wonder how long before the other brand offer similarly fast charging
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There are no sources so no Kernel/Rom, lenses are blocked so no gcam, and there is no msm download tool anymore,
Soo OP 10 pro is trash.
I want to like the P7P, I want to get one, but the more I look at it, the more I lean towards jumping ship for Samsung or most likely Apple. It would be my first apple mobile device, but aside from the eSIM all seems well.
The P6 is dreaded, and it took them way too long to offer software fixes.
I'm worried about the modem and don't understand why they're not going with Qualcomm.
It doesn't look like we'll be getting much in terms of camera improvement.
The battery will most likely be similar to the P6.
To answer your question plainly, I don't think there is any price point that justifies the risk of another failed device. I plan on waiting for the reviews. If the modem ain't stellar, it will be an automatic no from me because of my remote usage. If the modem works as well as the competition, then I'll have a hard time choosing.
Not interested at this time, but will be watching hand's on reports and reviews....
After hearing that it still has A55 cores, it's a no for me. I have not decided if I'm sticking with my OnePlus 9 or switching back to iPhone (I was on the 12 Pro Max for the last two weeks but the OOS13 beta dropped on the OnePlus 9 today and I kind of like it so I'm back on the OnePlus for now) but most relevant to this thread, I'm *not* going back to Pixel.
I'm writing this from a pixel 2 XL. Was previously using a One Plus 9 Pro. Had to switch back after the hyped up Hasselblad camera stopped focusing. In hindsight, it was a mistake to go with the one plus brand. My old pixel 2 it's working much better, and I will certainly be getting the 7 Pro
Will depend on modem. The modem on Pixel 6 Pro is absolute dog**** worst I have used.
But I will be getting rid of the Pixel 6 Pro, this is by far the worst phone I have ever used.
I am very happy with the 6 pro, but I like the look of the new minimal curve on the 7 pro. if there is also a higher peak brightness i'll be tempted, depending on trade in deals.
I did not plan on buying the P7 Pro, but since it does bring in a couple serious improvements, I made my pre-order today
- finally we get decent 10 bit HDR recording
- Faceunlock (as far as the presentation went, it's only for unlocking the phone and will not work as a biometric in-app or to make a payment)
- finally a decent peak brightness to work in the sun (1500 nits)
- 20 vs 30 res zoom with new nifty features
- macro mode (missed that since my ancient Samsung Galaxy alpha days), guided frame also looks promising for making videos
- better modem (this one needs reviews of course to validate any improvements; the P6 Pro modem is terrible)
- Tensor 2 should bring, if we look at the node and Googles claims, a 20% improvement in efficiency = better battery life
- and last but not least, the deciding factor that made me get the P7 Pro... European Google store offer the Pixel Watch LTE, valued at 429 €, for free when pre-ordering the 899 € P7 Pro. If I couple that with Rakuten and a Google Store cashback of 10% (Google One, 2 TB), sell the watch and my old phone, I get a new shiny phone and will actually have more money than I started out with. That's great of course.
In July, I had planned to buy the Nothing Phone(1) which looked interesting, and which is despite its setbacks the 1st smartphone produced by Nothing. Then, for personal reasons, I didn't buy it, and I turned to the Pixel 7 series that was supposed to arrive.
Very tempted by the 7Pro in 256GB, I hesitated for a long time and changed my mind again.
Looking at the specs, even if Google has improved this 7 series, I'll try to wait for the 8 series, which should arrive with a new processor and finally a non-curved screen and maybe a significantly reduced size for the 8Pro 256GB.
I'm staying with my OP 7T 256GB which I'll soon upgrade to custom rom, as OnePlus is not in a hurry to upgrade it to OOS12.
I wish you good time for the owners Pixel 7 serie
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"and finally a non-curved screen"
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I'm not sure if that hope of yours will result in reality. Google has made it clear that they are all about design and how it looks, and less about function. Just listen to the people presenting Pixel products, look at the Pixel watch (little screen real estate (square smartwatches have great advantage) and continental sized bezels are okay, as long as it looks good): the aesthetic is of greater importance to Google than practicality.
There is simply nothing to indicate that Google would steer away from that path. They consider a curved display to look nice.
Ergo I highly doubt that Google would dramatically change that business strategy for the next iteration of this phone. People like you and me, who would enjoy an even panel more, are simply not in the targeting group of Googles marketing.
The Pixel 7 Pro is almost perfect but the Pixel 6 has the worst connectivity and reception of any phone I've used, even behind the Galaxy devices.
No reviews means it would be just great on paper.
it's time to retire my oneplus 7 pro and get pixel 7 pro
I really wish google would get into the charging game like the oneplus 10 plus... That thing charges from 20% to 80% in 10 minutes

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