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I have been using YouMail's service on my phones for quite some time and was excited to see there was an app for Android, but after 2+ months of use (and several versions of the .apk, including the most recent Beta) I am still experiencing 100% awake time when the app is running.
If I kill it my phone will immedietly because to sleep normally. But each time I receive a phone call or open the app it will keep the phone from sleeping again.
I have been in contact with their support (which is how I received the Beta version) and have been sending Dumps their way, but was wondering if anyone else is experiencing this issue.
Info: Running Fresh 1.1 on a newly 1.56 RUU'ed hero.
crunchybutternut said:
I have been using YouMail's service on my phones for quite some time and was excited to see there was an app for Android, but after 2+ months of use (and several versions of the .apk, including the most recent Beta) I am still experiencing 100% awake time when the app is running.
If I kill it my phone will immedietly because to sleep normally. But each time I receive a phone call or open the app it will keep the phone from sleeping again.
I have been in contact with their support (which is how I received the Beta version) and have been sending Dumps their way, but was wondering if anyone else is experiencing this issue.
Info: Running Fresh 1.1 on a newly 1.56 RUU'ed hero.
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I stopped using the app because of this. I tried contacting support and was brushed off. I love the app but not the lack letting my phone sleep.
I am working with a developer of the app to fix the problem and have tested several versions. Will keep you updated of the progress.
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I am working with a developer of the app to fix the problem and have tested several versions. Will keep you updated of the progress.
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That would be great. Thanks for helping him out with this as I would love to use the app.
I don't mean to thread jack this, but.
Whats the difference in YouMail and our Sprint Visual Voice Mail? I have never used youMail.
Kcarpenter said:
I don't mean to thread jack this, but.
Whats the difference in YouMail and our Sprint Visual Voice Mail? I have never used youMail.
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YouMail http://www.youmail.com/home/index.do is a service that replaces Sprint's (or any other provider) voice mail service with their own. It allows you to set custom "smart" greetings for each caller in your contacts, among other things. Check out the site for more info.
Here is the latest response from the developer I have been working with.
Hi [Name],
I did some more research and can confirm that I see the same behavior as you when I run the YouMail app ('active' @ 100%)
I'm not exactly sure what the cause is, as the application is indeed going to sleep when it has nothing to do. The problem also seems to be quite widespread, affecting what seems to be "most" applications that loiter around in the background doing nothing for most of the time.
Since you use 'Spare Parts' you should notice that in there is a way of viewing the 'Partial Wake Lock' usage of a given application. According to the Android developer documentation this is the ONLY way an application can keep the phone "awake" other than 'prodding' it every 30 seconds or so (and you'd notice that 'coz the screen would never go off).
As long as that "Partial Wake Lock" value is low (and it should be unless you're constantly hitting "Menu -> Poll") it means the application is indeed behaving correctly.
All I can offer is that we develop a new feature into the app so that you can tell it to automatically exit when all of the automatic polling settings are disabled - that way the phone would literally shut down the app "sometime" after you back out of the message list. Do you think that's worth it? Or should we wait for HTC/T-Mobile to fix the root cause of the problem?
Doug
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And my response:
Do you mind if I share some of our conversation with a community forum? It might help get others involved and more feedback for you to use in further development.
As far as other apps loitering in the background, my understanding is that Android (using the same process as other Linux distros) keeps recently used applications in RAM to make them more quickly accessible to the user, and will clear them as the RAM is needed by other apps.
I have seen this issue in the past with other apps (i.e. the HTC messaging app locking the dialer and maintaining 100% awake time) but has all been resolved by updates to the apps themselves.
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Lastly, his response:
Feel free, I don't think I said anything bad
I we get enough requests from "the community" I'll be given time to add the 'exit when done' option (basically it'll become a "dumb" app that only checks for messages when you start it up instead of waking up every so often to check [like after you miss a call])
And yes, Android is a little stranger than normal in that it tends to leave applications running for an unspecified time after you "close" them. (basically until it needs to run something else, or it runs out of memory, or .....)
The YouMail app is a little different in that it runs as a background service and schedules the phone to wake it up whenever "events of interest" occur (you get a TXT, your phone rings, it needs to poll, etc) - so even if the OS does close the app because you logged onto "hugebitmaps.com" and the phone ran out of memory, it'll start it up again as soon as it can.
I suspect the HERO OS is not allowing the phone to sleep, even though the application is literally doing nothing. I don't recall this problem on my trusty G1 when it had Android 1.5, so maybe some of HTC's customizations have broken something
Doug
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I can post more of the conversation history if it would help. Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this beyond coding issues?
If anyone wants to send their YouMail log for inspection just enter this code in the dialer *#*#963867#*#* (*#*#YMDUMP#*#*) and it will let you send an email with the log's text.
Tried in 2.1 beta
"I suspect the HERO OS is not allowing the phone to sleep, even though the application is literally doing nothing. I don't recall this problem on my trusty G1 when it had Android 1.5, so maybe some of HTC's customizations have broken something "
I also tried using this app on the 2.1 ROM that Flipz and company have been working on, and had the same issue. I do not know enough programing to determine if this is a problem with OS or the app. I can only give you my experience and try other stuff out to see what the results are. I hope this helps.
Kevin
Hi, Doug from YouMail here.
Just noticed my words and thought I'd give an update - although not much good news.
I basically spent the last 2 days completely reworking the YouMail app's back end code so that anything and everything that could possibly be shut down when it isn't actually doing anything is indeed shut down.
When it came time to test it out -- 100% awake time again (although I stand by my earlier comments that "its not just us").
If I run the same app on a HTC G1 the phone will last a good 2 days (maybe more) without battery issues. If I uninstall the app the difference is minor.
This information, added to all the discussion on the Sprint forums about how the HTC "extras" that this phone comes bundled with have caused the same problem leads me to think that there is something in the Hero that's not behaving properly.
I see other comments like "It does the same on my <insert phone model here>" - well, we don't have unlimited resources, so if you can put the small amount of effort in to dial the 'dump' code mentioned above (*#*#963867#*#*) then maybe we can start to find a pattern here (maybe it's all the Android 1.5 based devices for example).
I'd also like to thank crunchybutternut for all of his assistance and time in trying to sort this issue out.
Doug
superman.namrepus said:
I also tried using this app on the 2.1 ROM that Flipz and company have been working on, and had the same issue. I do not know enough programing to determine if this is a problem with OS or the app. I can only give you my experience and try other stuff out to see what the results are. I hope this helps.
Kevin
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If I can get in touch with someone who has access to the "guts" of the device and that can help me determine whats going wrong then that would be great. Neither the Android developer list nor the HTC forums are particularly helpful when it comes to tricky problems.
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Anyone have some insight on this?
Ok - If someone working on one of these custom builds is prepared to lend a little assistance I'm willing to put a custom build on my phone and try to debug this a little deeper. However, with the number of hours that I get to work on this app.... and all the "fun" blocks that Google have been putting in our way w.r.t Android 2.x, I may not get much more time to work this problem.
That being said, I'm going to try experimenting with a new test app that just adds (one at a time) the raw features of the YouMail app in the hope that a single change triggers this wonderful problem you guys have. If that's the case then I'll put on my Sherlock Holmes hat and try to work around whatever is causing it.
Doug
Any news ?
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Any news ?
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Got this from ymDoug:
No progress as yet - not seen anything from xda folks either.
I've made *massive* changes to ensure the app is shutting down absolutely everything it can when it has nothing to do - still no joy.
I've even gone through a lot of the Android source code and can't find anything that would indicate I'm doing anything wrong. There is one debugging method I'd dearly love to call inside the Google Android code (it dumps out a list of who is keeping the phone awake at any point in time) but the method is only accessible to (a) Google, and (b) People who cook their own ROMs. The official Android people are doing their usual stand-up job of ignoring the difficult questions
I am still making the odd change here and there, and my test app doesn't seem to be having the same problems (of course)
Regardless, there will be an updated version on the web site in the next day or so - I'll need to ensure my changes haven't completely screwed things up
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Doug has made some changes, does not seem to completely resolve the sleep issue though.
Here's the link to the change log:
http://forums.youmail.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=18
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FYI: The version in the market is several revisions behind.
Ok noob alert..just a prelude I've done alot of searching and reading, and *think I have some answers, but if some kind soul were to take a quick look and maybe verify what I've found, I'd be eternally grateful. I used to have a LG Optimus and easily rooted/upgraded to CM7 by reading this forum and didn't have to ask any questions.
Now I've gone and signed up for WIND (Canada) and picked up an XT720. It's my budget and I'm not overly concerned about whether or not I have ICS immediately. I'd rather have something stable and $$ saving.
OK so I'm noticing a serious difference in the way the XT720 handles the WIFI/mobile data situation compared to the LG: it doesn't. First off, there's no easy way to turn off mobile data. Secondly, enabling WIFI gets me a connection to my router, yes, but browsers and apps that require a connection just refuse to use the WIFI unless: 1. there is 3G data connection - in other words, it ain't using WIFI 2. I put the phone in Airplane Mode, and turn WIFI back on. Great, but now no phone calls or SMS. Not a viable workaround. Option 3 involves hard resetting the phone with a battery pull which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
From scouring around various sites, this seems to have been a common problem with 2.1 and this model of phone. And thus the workarounds I tried were also employed by others.
From what I know of all versions custom ROMs etc from 2.2 onward for other models of phones, though, this wasn't an issue, and also in 2.2 and onward you can switch off Mobile Data which will force the WIFI connection if turned on.
So is this something that I will see an improvement on if I install say CM 6.3 onward or whatever? I'll get the ability to turn off mobile data, right? And then there theoretically shouldn't be a conflict, right?
That's my biggest issue. I don't get enough 3G signal in my house to just use the mobile data connection, I absolutely have to be able to use WIFI and receive phone calls/texts at the same time, so if custom roms aren't going to help me, I'd best return the phone.
Some other things I'm curious about:
- do most of the normal functions of the phone work with CM 6.3? HD recording, camera, HDMI out etc? Anything I've missed?
- I see quite a bit of talk about people running out of RAM and using sd swapping etc is this a common problem? Even with about 20 or so apps and CM7 on my LG Optimus I was still able to maintain about 110 mb RAM free at all times by judicious use of installing apps on SD card...will I be ok?
- Probably the biggest question before I root/install...most of the guides I'm reading talk about installing various stock sbfs etc etc...I'm coming in from a WIND stock rom so I don't *THINK* I need to do this, right? I should be nandroid'ing, Open Recovery, flash custom rom....right?
Here's my specs
Xt720 Wind Canada
s/w STR_U2_05.1F.2
f/w 2.1-update1
f/w config GAS_NA_NAWIND_P012
Baseband 3GSMEPU91A_U_91.075EI
kernel 2.6.29-omap1
I realize that some of this is covered in other threads. To be honest tho some respondents/contributors aren't English first language and I just want to make sure I haven't misunderstood anything. Anyone who has done similar to what I'm trying to do, especially coming from a WIND perspective, lemme know your thoughts, please and thanks alot!
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Now I've gone and signed up for WIND (Canada) and picked up an XT720. It's my budget and I'm not overly concerned about whether or not I have ICS immediately. I'd rather have something stable and $$ saving.
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I've picked up the XT720 myself from Wind a few days ago at the clearance price ($150 outright, no plan). They even told me there are no guarantees with the phone with its stock ROM and seemed glad to hear that I was gonna use it with a custom ROM. I knew what I was getting into and the only reason I still bought the phone is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300246
We are extremely lucky to get Gingearbread on our phones, so don't even think of ICS at this moment. As you noticed already the stock 2.1 is useless and I flashed mine the 1st day.
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That's my biggest issue. I don't get enough 3G signal in my house to just use the mobile data connection, I absolutely have to be able to use WIFI and receive phone calls/texts at the same time, so if custom roms aren't going to help me, I'd best return the phone.
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The ROM I linked above (the only 2.3, actually CM 7.1 available for XT720) works as you'd expect with wifi and 3g, that is it uses wifi when connected to both. Any decent ROM will do that.
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- do most of the normal functions of the phone work with CM 6.3? HD recording, camera, HDMI out etc? Anything I've missed?
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HD recording - not yet (you don't lose much anyway, the camcorder quality would be crappy, check reviews with the stock OS)
camera - yes (pretty good quality)
HDMI - not yet (I'm guessing it will be fixed very soon, the devs are working on exactly this)
everything else - yes
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- I see quite a bit of talk about people running out of RAM and using sd swapping etc is this a common problem? Even with about 20 or so apps and CM7 on my LG Optimus I was still able to maintain about 110 mb RAM free at all times by judicious use of installing apps on SD card...will I be ok?
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This one is tricky, the phone only has about 225mb usable RAM, there's not much multi-tasking you can do with that amount but it's workable. There are some performance tweaks you can do (overclocking, CM settings, V6 SuperCharger, etc.) to make it decent. Moving apps on sd card is a good idea in order to save storage space on the phone (another limited resource at only 174mb) but has nothing to do with RAM.
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- Probably the biggest question before I root/install...most of the guides I'm reading talk about installing various stock sbfs etc etc...I'm coming in from a WIND stock rom so I don't *THINK* I need to do this, right? I should be nandroid'ing, Open Recovery, flash custom rom....right?
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I've been wondering the same thing, what's up with all the SBFs people are talking about left and right? The answer is don't worry about them, you don't need any SBF. They are just that, stock ROMs, all 2.1. You would only need one (the Wind version) if you wanted to take the phone back for servicing and wanted to return to the original non-rooted state. Apparently even if you take a full nandroid backup with your stock ROM now and restore it later, the phone will still be rooted and this is where a stock SBF would help. I'm not gonna bother, even if I do take it back (highly doubt it, with the custom ROM it's a very good phone for $150 outright), I'm just gonna restore my stock nandroid backup.
So what you need is:
1. root the phone (personally I used SuperOneClick, google for the latest version)
2. install OpenRecovery: http://modmymobile.com/forums/563-m.../531599-open-recovery-v1-46-11-21-2010-a.html
I can send you the file you need if you pm your email address. I HATE it when I have to register on some forum just to get 1 stupid file. And you absolutely CANNOT get that stupid file anywhere else on the face of the Earth/internet.
3. install this mod for OpenRecovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242259
4. go to the ROM's thread, dl the latest build linked in the 1st post, copy the zip file to your sdcard\openrecovery\updates, reboot into recovery mode, apply update, format data&cache, reboot. Done. Enjoy!
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2. install OpenRecovery: http://modmymobile.com/forums/563-m.../531599-open-recovery-v1-46-11-21-2010-a.html
I can send you the file you need if you pm your email address. I HATE it when I have to register on some forum just to get 1 stupid file. And you absolutely CANNOT get that stupid file anywhere else on the face of the Earth/internet.
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There's an OpenRecovery apk floating around here to install ther OR bootstrap, no need to register at ModMyMobile.
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Woodrube has it attached to this thread. Install the apk from the sdcard, reboot, then run the apk & install OR. (Now you can switch out the OR files with Mioze's modded OR)
here you go
I knew that thread would come in handy one of these days. Plus Buddy and Acro there are other handy APKs in there too.
Mioze actually have all the necessary Open Recovery files linked in his CM6.3 topic
that's the most updated version
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU to James and everyone who has responded so far - even going so far as to direct link me to files I'll need? You guys are the best!!.
I really appreciate the encouragement. I think tonight's the night.
I'll try and log my procedures and steps and make note of anything I run into for future noobs like me I might be able to help..that's how community works, right?
Wish me luck!
Good luck
One more tip: If you find that Market keeps crashing after you flash fjfalcon's ROM, flash this updated Google Apps package - gapps-gb-20111216 (dl link here).
It worked for me. Put the zip file on the sdcard right next to the ROM file and flash it just like the ROM file.
PS: Who's James?
Ah BuddyBud sorry, there is another Canadian Wind guy named Biker Bob (real name James) who was posting about his experiences in another thread, and I mixed the two of you up..
About to try this...couple questions
Has anyone watched/used Reverend's tutorial video? Results?
I don't need to unlock the phone first, right? Please tell me no, I just got it! lol
The Revs videos are a good reference & if you are talking about a sim unlock that's not necessary.
Yes Revs videos are good to show.a visual of what you should do. Don't worry about it. I know it is scary the first time but once you do it, it will become second nature. Don't forget to wipe cache, dalvik and factory reset. If you bootloop, that is probably why.
No you don't need to be unlocked. That just deals with carriers and not ROMs.
Im on the edge of the decision precipice..am not too nervous about doing this, as in fact I'm pretty technically proficient..it just seemed that this process was a bit more convoluted than the one I picked up on easily for the LG.
Decisions decisions...6.3 or go all the way to 7.1
I think I need stability...and I'm not sure I want to get into a whole bunch of swapping locations etc. I noticed The Reverend mentioned he didn't bother with swaps. Mind you, I don't even think he made an ext partition either, which boggles my mind, I was almost sure you had to make at least one for any custom ROM. I might be showing just how little I know here! lol
Is it just that 7.1 is more of an ongoing thing, or by now are most of the +/- s of both pretty much on par? I know, I should be reading all 78 pages of the damn thread, right??
Oh boy, I just read through the Bravo thread...and the LED notification sounds SOOO tempting. No LED notification bugged the hell outta me on the LG. Hmmmm...
Ok...have settled on the ROM in this thread (Bravo):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332410
I just want to make sure of one thing...the VERY helpful steps that you all have outlined ie BuddyBuds...they stay the same up to step 4 (ROM + update) no matter what ROM I choose, pretty much.
Brians instructions are just a slight bit confusing in that Im not sure if I have to apply just the most recent update for LED ie v1.6...or if I have to install ALL the updates from the start on up (I think there are 4 of them). To me it would seem logical that each new version would be cumulative ie include the stuff from previous versions...but I just want to make sure!
One more thing..I didnt notice any mention of gapps in the download in that thread (nor did I see a gapps apk in the files I unzipped, but might have missed it..)...if not, Ill need to apply that too, right..any special version to useÉ
Ok so...
I went with Brian's BRAVO. I followed some of the steps provided in this thread, coupled with Reverand's video. I used his OpenRecovery install method (ie original from the Dexter build, copy new over top that) because I've never installed OpenRecovery before and it just seemed confusing on other threads.
To root, I used UltimateAndroot, in order to have the ability to unroot the machine (you'll see why...)
The first thing I checked, of course, was the pull down power/status bar to see about turning off various connections (ie Wifi, Bluetooth, Refresh, Mobile Data, etc). Unlike other 2.2 Froyo's I've used, specifically..LG..there is no pull down/status bar. Damn. Went thru every Setting imaginable, but won't work. This isn't looking great.
Next thing I tested was my 3G/Wifi issue. To my dismay...the issue remains. Browser and apps are still trying to use 3G first and foremost, as far as I can see. How do I know? Because if I leave Data Network Settting to "Allowed", browser/apps work, and *seem to be using the WiFi, but the second the 3G signal fades or is dropped, I get connection issues, and WiFi is still on. If I turn Data Network Setting to "Not Allowed", it might/might not use the WiFi for a bit and then pretty consistently stop. When I mean "stop", I mean the phone is still showing connected to WiFi yet there are data connection errors on all browsers/apps that need data etc. Sometimes, if the 3G signal returns, I get the pop-up asking me to Allow the data, and if I say yes it works for a bit (but then, because of the 3G signal issue, it cuts out again).
The fix - again - turn on Airplane mode, which disconnects all connections, turn on WiFi, then go back into Call Settings and search for the Home Network again. This is crazy, I can't do this every time, and eventually it craps out again and I have to do it all over.
The other really frustrating thing is I powered it down to do a full recharge overnight...when I booted back up it didn't find my Home Network at all and I had to rescan for it. Testing that out, sure enough, rebooting the phone I have to reselect the Network. Argh.
Any thoughts? The whole necessity of being able to turn 3G data off is so I can avoid this very problem. Basically, I walk in my front door, turn off data over the mobile network, and let my WiFi do it all while I'm home. I wish I could do this as effectively as with my LG on 2.2 (and later, CM7)
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Ok...have settled on the ROM in this thread (Bravo):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332410
I just want to make sure of one thing...the VERY helpful steps that you all have outlined ie BuddyBuds...they stay the same up to step 4 (ROM + update) no matter what ROM I choose, pretty much.
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Once you get to step 4 inn Buddy's list check out this. It will explain it a little bit better. Brought someone back from the brink on this thread. Where is says Dexter, just replace that with Bravo.
Brians instructions are just a slight bit confusing in that Im not sure if I have to apply just the most recent update for LED ie v1.6...or if I have to install ALL the updates from the start on up (I think there are 4 of them). To me it would seem logical that each new version would be cumulative ie include the stuff from previous versions...but I just want to make sure!
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Per Brian's OP the v1.9 has all the patches.
v1.9,A new Nandroid IMG backup,All patches included(20111217).
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One more thing..I didnt notice any mention of gapps in the download in that thread (nor did I see a gapps apk in the files I unzipped, but might have missed it..)...if not, Ill need to apply that too, right..any special version to useÉ
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Gapps is for CM builds. Bravo is a 2.2 build.
Side note: If you are going to partition it is up to you. I and a few other don't but it is really a personal preference. When I did, I used MiniTool Partition Wizard and it worked like a charm.
A few things though:
1: Your partitions must be set up this way---> Fat then EXT2/3 then Swap (if you choose-I don't and never did-requires you to fastboot a custom kernel and since this is your first experience, I would not suggest it)
2: Sizes. Many noobs will set their EXT2/3 partition to 1gb. That is way too big and you are just wasting space. I find that somewhere between 350-400mb is more than enough.
3: Do not convert your Ext partition to EXT4 unless the ROM you choose supports it. If/when the time comes, use MZ's open recovery utility to do it and not GPArted or MiniTool. The creat a Hugefile that has to be deleted and is a PITA.
4: If you do decide to partition, you will have to boot up fully, then go into your root explorer and in the SD-ext, you will need to create a folder called App (not apps-no S) so it will look like this sdcard/sdext/app. Then reboot and your apps will auto-install there.
Sorry for the long post and good luck.
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acrobat69 said:
Any thoughts? The whole necessity of being able to turn 3G data off is so I can avoid this very problem. Basically, I walk in my front door, turn off data over the mobile network, and let my WiFi do it all while I'm home. I wish I could do this as effectively as with my LG on 2.2 (and later, CM7)
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Once you click on WIFI it should take over as your primary source of data. Not sure why unless I think I might have figured it out. Go into settings>wireless>tick your WIFI and once your router pops up leave it alone and hit your menu button. Set your WIFI sleep policy to NEVER and I bet that takes care of it. Pretty sure that is toggling off your WIFI when 3g is present.
Other solution is Widgetsoid and Elixir both have a widget to toggle off data (so does Beautiful widgets too for that matter). You can use those but I really think the above solution should work for you.
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Per Brian's OP the v1.9 has all the patches.
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Ah, figured..however when I go into LED Notification, it says "revision 1.6" (or some wording to that effect) at the bottom. Maybe that's just an error, but I just used that to gauge whether or not I had installed the latest revisions etc.
LED Notification works for text messages. I haven't seen it work for calls yet, but maybe I'm doing something wrong. I call the phone, the screen lights up that there's a call, and then ultimately closes when noone answers it. It was at this point that I'd assume the LED notification would come on. Screen is out, so LED, right?
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Gapps is for CM builds. Bravo is a 2.2 build.
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Ok I guess I goofed then, because I tried to update with Gapps after I installed Bravo. One thing I noticed is that I wasn't prompted to sign up/into my Google accounts or set up the phone when I rebooted following the Bravo ROM + Gapps install..that had always happened on my LG when I did CM installs...your explanation makes sense!
But...isn't CM6 basically 2.2 and Bravo basically 2.2? Or maybe I misread that.
At any rate, the real reason I updated Gapps is because I wanted the "new" Market look. I don't like the old one very much, really like the My Apps function. Is there way I can just patch this in to Bravo?
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Side note: If you are going to partition it is up to you. I and a few other don't but it is really a personal preference.
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Why do people partition? I did it on my LG, but never used it. Partitioning has nothing to do with installing user apps to the SD card, right? I can do that anyways, true?
Speaking of which..in CM there is the ability to set the default install location. I searched to find something similar in Bravo, to no avail. Is there a way to do this?
Wait...I think you just gave me the answer to both these questions...duh me..
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4: If you do decide to partition, you will have to boot up fully, then go into your root explorer and in the SD-ext, you will need to create a folder called App (not apps-no S) so it will look like this sdcard/sdext/app. Then reboot and your apps will auto-install there.
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I guess I do in fact want to partition, then. I can't imagine how one wouldn't want to, I mean you don't want apps clogging up internal memory, right?
Woodrube said:
Sorry for the long post and good luck.
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Never apologize for long posts...I'm the worst at it and I love pouring over every single last detail. I'm sure there are lurkers who appreciate also, I know I really did when learning on my LG. Thanks a million!!
Woodrube said:
Once you click on WIFI it should take over as your primary source of data. Not sure why unless I think I might have figured it out. Go into settings>wireless>tick your WIFI and once your router pops up leave it alone and hit your menu button. Set your WIFI sleep policy to NEVER and I bet that takes care of it. Pretty sure that is toggling off your WIFI when 3g is present.
Other solution is Widgetsoid and Elixir both have a widget to toggle off data (so does Beautiful widgets too for that matter). You can use those but I really think the above solution should work for you.
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DOHHHHH!!!! I knew I had forgotten something about past settings that made my LG work so well.. I have modified the Wi-Fi sleep policy and hopefully it will work better now! One constant in all the issues I was having, now that you've mentioned this, is that the screen was sleeping/timing out while things were going on. I'd bring it back up, and be all "like, wtf" when my browser wouldn't work or apps that were downloading hung, etc. Mind you, it probably should have reconnected by itself, but whatever, if it doesn't, there's no harm in using Never Sleep for WiFi. I'm not that much of a stickler for battery usage. I go to bed, I charge the phone, I wake up, repeat. I don't need 4 days battery life and if I ever am in a situation where I do, I'm camping or somewhere remote ie no WiFi hence this doesn't apply as I'd just toggle WiFi off completely anyways.
You're right, I could use a Widget to manage my connections and I managed to grab Beautiful when it was 10 cents..but those reside on the screen and I would love to get that pull-down bar back, just so handy to drag down no matter what app/screen you're in...I know, I'm picky
You know what? I got a Notification Toggle app on my PC at home that I'll upload here tonight. I just remembered it while I was at lunch. It is from an older ROM so not sure it will work but worth a try. Usual directions. Push it to /system/apps reboot. It should be just what you are looking for if it works. Might not though so you'll just have to see.
CM6 is 2.2 and so is Bravo only Bravo was made from the official Korean update that was handed down and Mioze has created the CM6 from source. So yes they are both 2.2 but very different.
Edit: I have the latest Market.apk too. It is floating around here somewhere but I can't find in for some reason. I'll upload them tonight.
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Decisions decisions...6.3 or go all the way to 7.1
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try them both first, then see which one you want to use as your daily driver.
i personally like the 6.3 better because it runs the fastest even on stock speed 720 Mhz
you can use Open Recovery to do a full backup, and switch back and forth between 7.1 and 6.3 until you decide which one you like best
7.1 has more themes to choose from and is more up to date, but... less free resources vs. 6.3 which is indirectly related to why it feels less quick than 6.3
7.1 feels similar to the speed you get on the stock ROM from Wind, 6.3 feels like a brand new device
Q&A for [ROM][4.4.4] OmniROM - Stingray/Stingray_CDMA - bigPart
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no sound, no auto-rotate
I am fairly new to Rooting and updating my Xoom to the newest Kitkat system. I am having 2 issues as of right now. The sound has never worked no matter what the settings say, and initially the auto-rotate was functioning and suddenly it stopped.
I have checked all options/setting and see nothing that should explain either of these 2 issues. I also didnt add any new apps in the time from initial update to the auto-rotate not working so if anyone has any suggestions or ideas, it would be greatly appreciated.
Again I am fairly new to all this, so the simpler or more detailed the potential solution the more likely I will understand it.
Thanks.
No sound on Omni 4.4 cmda version
I love the rom, only problem is I have no sound on the cmda version. I read the comments and saw people suggest install the top rom version over the bottom and then reflashing gapps. Should have sound. When I do this tablet boots but keeps giving me error "Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped" I say ok but it keeps coming up and wont let me get any further. Any suggestions?
volume issue
Anyone know how to fix the no sound issue in omni rom 4.4.4 stingray cdma? I cant get any sound at all. Help would be appreciated.
Took a couple go's but now up and running 4.4.2!
Thank you!
First time I've moved from the standard stock implementation, never even rooted the device before, but a couple attempts and following your instructions I managed to install BigPart, Flash omni-4.4.2-201XXXXX-everest-HOMEMADE_XXXX.zip, gapps-xxxx.zip & UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.86.zip.
I was about to give up on the Xoom and buy something newer, Tab S or something, but this appears to have put new life back into the old Xoom!
Followed the instructions above, but could not get it to clear Dalvik, failed every time. In the end I bit the bullet and formatted the internal drive, then flashed again - worked like a charm - figured since I was going to pass it over for a new one or this was going to work I had little to lose. As it happens I now seem to have it back & working well.
Now have bunch of apps back installed and trying them all out, so far most appear to be fine; though Google maps crashes whenever I zoom in too far.... less than a country level, I don't mean excessively far - thoughts?
Blackdogn3 said:
Now have bunch of apps back installed and trying them all out, so far most appear to be fine; though Google maps crashes whenever I zoom in too far.... less than a country level, I don't mean excessively far - thoughts?
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Google Maps v9+ has problems on the Xoom with all the different custom ROMS (Omni, CWM, EOS, etc). You need to downgrade to Maps v8.4.1 to get it to work.
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Google Maps v9+ has problems on the Xoom with all the different custom ROMS (Omni, CWM, EOS, etc). You need to downgrade to Maps v8.4.1 to get it to work.
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Thanks as said a newbie! Downgraded and working fine - thanks for quick reply
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Thanks as said a newbie! Downgraded and working fine - thanks for quick reply
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It has also been noted that 9.2.0 is rolling out and that it works on the Xoom. I updated yesterday and did a quick check - it does appear to work fine!
No Sound
After I flashed "[ROM][4.4.4] OmniROM - Stingray/Stingray_CDMA - bigPart." onto my Verizon Motorola Xoom 4G Tablet,
I have no sound at all and also the auto-rotate feature does not work (stays locked in portrait mode until reboot).
A number of other forum members have posted the same problem. Can we get a solution from someone on the forum?
have all but twrp v 2.6.3 big part
I have every thing I need except big part v2.6.3, none of the links I've found work? Does it have to be v2.6..3. ? There seem to be updated versions?
No 3g or 1x fallback
Install this today, everything went ok, execpt i could not get verizon 3g or 1x service. 4g works fine, when i have coverage. SBF back to stock again i guess.
e:unable to mount '/cache
The process for flashing the xoom (stingray model) seems somewhat straightforward. Yet I can't seem to get a working flash from the effort. Two problems:
1) during the "wipe this and that" stage while running in recovery, I get "FAILED" for each of the requisite areas to wipe, along with other messages such as that in the title. while i find a handful of other posts within this forum from folks experiencing the same problem, i find nothing in response with useful suggestions to fix what's apparently broken;
2) the tablet boots up to the OMNI splash-screen, and that's it.
I've repeated the steps at the head of this thread umpteen-zillion times. But the result is the same after each attempt. Either some critical step (or two) is/are missing from the initial (and horribly written) description, or I have the most stubborn tablet built.
i haven't bricked the thing... i can access it via adb, and i can get into recovery with no issues. what i can't seem to do is:
1) find a TWRP download using the links provided that doesn't trip quarantine due to virus detection; or,
2) find a coherent set of instructions that correctly describe the logical flow of the process of flashing a ROM on a Xoom.
Suggestions?
CDMA Voice and data programming
Hi,
Thanks for your effort and excellent work but I need some help, The main thing i want to try, is to get back my CDMA signal because since i tried the stock rom 4.1.2 i was not able to get any Data working there, my xoom is a just CDMA with no sim or LTE upgrade and i already tried 2 basebands on it the one with the last version of the stock room and the one that gets installed with the IMML update but no luck, if by any chance you have the first baseband it would be great i guess its something like 2.00.
Another question that I have is related to BP tools or programming the Cdma xoom, every time I try to start in bp tools I was not able to see the utility, just today i tried to connect to my PC and its not able to connect to CDMA Workshop or QPST, is there a way to do that? i need to activate something? any idea would be great!
And would be great if you have any MZ600 SBF where has included the first baseband 2.00 'cause probably it will help me to recover my 3g data (it's the only thing i didn't find and try).
Thanks!!!
is this have a default calling future like any mobile?
Thank You to OmniRom for xoom devolopers (all of you)
I just wanted to post a thank you to all of the developers of the omnirom for xoom. I was able to install it tonight, with a couple soft brick scares, but it is up and ruining. I love my xoom and am very appreciative.
Thanks....Steve
Xoom OnmiROM freezes
I've got a similar problem to the problem outlined in this post. My son also has seen it on his Xoom.
When it becomes unresponsive (either on the dock or not), the only way I can recover is to hold the volume up and the power button until the tablet reboots. To me, it appears it goes into a deep sleep that the power button alone can't wake it up from.
There seems to be no set time period that the tablet has to be up before it hangs. Sometimes I can set it down for an hour and other times it's still responsive the next day.
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I've got a similar problem to the problem outlined in this post. My son also has seen it on his Xoom.
When it becomes unresponsive (either on the dock or not), the only way I can recover is to hold the volume up and the power button until the tablet reboots. To me, it appears it goes into a deep sleep that the power button alone can't wake it up from.
There seems to be no set time period that the tablet has to be up before it hangs. Sometimes I can set it down for an hour and other times it's still responsive the next day.
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It's not real common for this to happen, but this same issue does occasionally happen on the CyanogenMod 11 Rom also. Other than this, and the workarounds to do a few other things in Android 4.4.4, the Xoom has been a real God send that is just amazing.
Non-Functioning Sensors post-flash w/Omni Stingray
Finished flashing XOOM 4G with (in order listed):
Xoom-Universal-Root
R.A.H._TWRPv2.6.3
omni-4.4.4-20141130-1816+0100-stingray_cdma-HOMEMADE
pa_gapps-modular-pico-4.4.4-20150215-signed
UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.45
After I noticed that the auto-rotate didn't work, I downloaded "My Android Sensors" from the Play Store. It shows the NO sensor is working. What gives..?
Looking for file EOS-Stingray-imm76l-radios-update.zip
Hi all,
Can someone help with the file ?
EOS-Stingray-imm76l-radios-update.zip
Thank you
The Rom works great.
I installed it month ago and it is working fine.
Batterylife is perfect and all things are working.
Thanks
Q&A for Lollipop 5.0 runs on our msm8960s on kkbl
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Battery Life
derpyherp said:
I think its odd how there is no deep sleep state i put a screen shot of the cpu times at each cpu speed... Its odd but somehow battery life is amazing
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I switch back to cm11 because i have 6%/hr of battery drain, (7hr/41min Screen on time, 65% left), that is for me horrible battery life.
I did not look the cpu states, but, if there is no deep sleep, it sould explain mi experience about battery.
I have the same mensage when I was in f2fs. I have to go back to ext4 to work.
Does anyone know if the AOSP Camera will be made available? I don't like the Google one since it doesn't allow me to choose the external SD card as a storage option.
The system itself boots, and runs quite smoothly from what I've tried so far. Very exciting!
But I've found that Lastpass crashes immediately when I try to launch it. I did a clean install with CM12 11/17. Has anyone else seen this behaviour with this app? I'm assuming for the moment it just hasn't yet caught up to Android 5, and I'll have to sit patiently on 4.4 until then.
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The system itself boots, and runs quite smoothly from what I've tried so far. Very exciting!
But I've found that Lastpass crashes immediately when I try to launch it. I did a clean install with CM12 11/17. Has anyone else seen this behaviour with this app? I'm assuming for the moment it just hasn't yet caught up to Android 5, and I'll have to sit patiently on 4.4 until then.
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I don't use that app, but it's probably either one of two things (or both):
This ROM was just release back on 11/14, so it's fairly new (the 11/14 was the first release), so there could be some issues that are causing the app to fail.
The app needs to be updated to run correctly under LP. There were some major changes to the API for LP that could cause other apps to fail that are now using these deprecated API calls. The developer needs to take there app and compile it under the latest LP compiler and libs to see if it compiles.
So, you'll probably have to wait and see. So far, I've been lucky. The apps that I need to work (CoPilot USA, etc) all work. Just waiting for dhacker to figure out the correct set of libs for DRM so that Google Play Movies and Netflix start working again. They work fine under my Nexus 7 running LP, but that was an official release by Google.
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I don't use that app, but it's probably either one of two things (or both):
This ROM was just release back on 11/14, so it's fairly new (the 11/14 was the first release), so there could be some issues that are causing the app to fail.
The app needs to be updated to run correctly under LP. There were some major changes to the API for LP that could cause other apps to fail that are now using these deprecated API calls. The developer needs to take there app and compile it under the latest LP compiler and libs to see if it compiles.
So, you'll probably have to wait and see. So far, I've been lucky. The apps that I need to work (CoPilot USA, etc) all work. Just waiting for dhacker to figure out the correct set of libs for DRM so that Google Play Movies and Netflix start working again. They work fine under my Nexus 7 running LP, but that was an official release by Google.
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It turns out it was simply a matter of PEBCAK. I uninstalled Android System Webview, because it has the same icon as the stock Browser, while I was removing unwanted processes.
The first time , I flashed 11/15 version, everything seems to work fine ,then I flashed gapps, then I got no signal anymore,but everything else seems to work, so I did a factory reset, the gsm signal came back again, today when I trying to flash 11/18 version, the signal gone again, this time I don't want loose my data , what should I do to get a gsm signal? *#*#4636#*#* seems not working on 11/18, sorry for my poor english
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It turns out it was simply a matter of PEBCAK. I uninstalled Android System Webview, because it has the same icon as the stock Browser, while I was removing unwanted processes.
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Ah, I'm familiar with those errors as well as the ID10T error as well.
Works just fine, very smooth. Had no troubles with the signal at all.
However, I can't receive a call, the dialer just stops. It is possible though to make a call. Anyone had this problem?
yes had that error many times "dialer has stopped", this is work in progress man. I hope that dhacker checks this and the other thread and try to remedy some of the prob.
For that dialer has stopped error, a reboot can cure it. But again i cant rely on a phone that is going to quit when you need to make or receive a call.
So the fix for no service is still reboot and hope?
I'm on Verizon CDMA, XT926, 11/23 build, 11/22 gapps, SuperSU 2.27
Thanks.
Doug B.
I had an odd issue on 11/22 build:
When I connect my car via bluetooth, when a call comes in, pressing the answer button does nothing and the call keeps ringing forever.
Also,
Is Anyone having issues with restoring on TWRP 2.8.1.0? I tried restoring a backup I made and my phone won't boot. It just gets stuck at the cyanogen mod screen.
Edit: I restored a previous backup, installed TWRP 2.8.2.0 and then restored the backup I was trying to. It worked.
dvgb173 said:
So the fix for no service is still reboot and hope?
I'm on Verizon CDMA, XT926, 11/23 build, 11/22 gapps, SuperSU 2.27
Thanks.
Doug B.
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On my 11/25 build data wasn't working at first, I just turned it on and off from settings and it started working.
11/25 build is working for me as far as being able to receive phone calls. I was previously getting FCs on it when an incoming call was coming, but I was also running f2fs. I've gone back to ext4 and things seem to have stabilized at this point.
This build is the dhacker? I found nothing in his link. Many changes over the previous build?
When open 3g ,call comein can not.
How to fix it?
Thank.
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When open 3g ,call comein can not.
How to fix it?
Thank.
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Now, I install 30/11 it OK.
Thanks.
SMS issue
Is the sms issue (can't receive sms, although the phone I'm sending from receives the delivery report) still present in this new build (12-02)? I've tried the 11-25 build and BlissPop and none of them allowed me to receive sms... It's the one real issue that's keeping me from jumping into Lollipop
Razr HD (XT925, KK bootloader)
My device does not come out of the boot with this version.
Hi all, long lurking rom-installer who can self-fix most problems here. Got a problem I can't fix that's bothering me. Recently upgraded to an S7 so naturally rooted it on day one and been trying to get it my-kind-of-working fully ever since. I do like to bugger about with things in a vain attempt to shield some private data from some orgs and realise I'm in a particularly specific hole that I'll probably have to climb out of on my own, but if you don't ask...
Internet using apps pretend to work, sometimes for days, then just refuse to open. Screenshot example of the second and persistent error (after simply "Lightning has stopped" the first time) is attached.
Model: G930F
Current ROM: ambasadii 7.0 TW Nougat (here)
Xposed: 88.2
Root: Magisk
Significant mods:
1) use xPrivacy
2) disabled significant number of remaining packages using Package Disabler Pro (list attached)
3) run Orbot
4) run AFWall
5) modify app permissions in Settings/Apps to restrict where I think I safely can
6) run BackgroundRestrictor
The behaviour still emerges even if I don't apply 4), 5) or 6), it has started prior to me finishing my tweaking.
I know xPrivacy is not supported for Nougat but it seems to work ok for the most part with some retweaking of settings since moving from Marshmallow on my old phone. I understand it could be the cause of the problem but I'm wedded to (some of) my privacy enough to persevere before abandoning it. For the record I've checked the usage log for restrictions on any calls around e.g. internet that might be interfering but I've been unusually generous with permissions trying to fix this and there's no restrictions on any apps with internet access around that, or much else really at this point. I've also had a look in general usage log rather than app specific, looking for system components that may be working alongside the app and failing with a restriction but can't see anything being denied. Any system apps haven't been touched by me, I fetched what I could from xprivacy crowdsourced restrictions on the base ROM apps and then only applied my template to apps I've downloaded myself.
Some other background on the problem: everything will be set up as I like it - ROM installed, debloated, all the rest of above modding applied. It will be working super-fine. Nice and fast, little bloat left, just enough Google to get Play Store, apps installed and working, all will be and appear fine. After an undetermined & fluctuating length of time all of the internet-facing apps will suddenly not open. This includes but isn't limited to the Browser (stock and Lightning, Brave, Pale Moon, etc.), Twitter, Signal and the Official TWRP App.
Interestingly, internet-connecting apps that will connect on demand but don't seem to make a call on every app open (mostly due to prior settings changes) do not fail. They will still open fine and work fine, connecting when asked and not crashing. For example, K9 Mail and Pocket.
Another weird data-point: Signal will fail but will often do so later than the other internet-connected apps - possibly it has a token with GCM or something that when it expires will try to renew on app open which is when it starts to fail like the others?
The apps will work again if uninstalled and reinstalled but once the behaviour starts again, and it will, it will repeat. Sometimes twice or more in a day. So reinstalling every time is not going to make for a usable phone. It's like they have an error renewing their wifi lease or something.
It can take up to three days to begin - this build it worked fine for days whilst I was away and slowly, progressively building the system back up with regular TWRP backups. I can restore a TWRP backup from about 6 hours before the problem started and it'll work fine again, but still wait a random amount of time before the problem begins again.
I did think it may be something to do with the router here and home WiFi as it behaved much better whilst away and didn't break until my return, though that is likely coincidence. I'm in pattern-observing mindframe so false positives are everywhere. I thought it was connecting to the PC via USB that was doing it at one point.
Last data point: it's happened with a different base rom too (Decent here), same thing, but came on sooner each time. I would change the base rom again to see if it's something there but I suspect that should be one of the last things I try given it's happened across two roms now.
Anyway, if anyone has any insight on Nougat TW ROMs on an S7 with this kind of set up and/or any clues or ideas as to why internet connects would suddenly be crashing all these apps... I'd be grateful. Otherwise I have many reinstalls and possibilities to eliminate. Which means waiting many sets of days before I can repeat, which makes progress frustratingly slow when you depend on the phone (Signal particularly) to connect with people.
AFWall stands out if you're having problem with net connections to apps etc
Yes good point, thank you. I think i've run the ROM with same problems without any rules applied but I've disabled it fully now just to be sure. Much obliged.
If it persists, the proper way of troubleshooting would be to clean install the ROM only, no tweaks, Xposed, firewalls or anything, just the ROM and your apps you're having problems with
If that all works together fine, then add ONE new thing to the mix, test for a few days, rinse and repeat until you add something that causes the problem again
With testing for a few days between each new addition you're be 100% sure what is causing it once it starts again
Thank you! Yes that's the plan but I thought I'd ask first as there's a lot of waiting down that route. I did do it to a point during last build but only waited overnight after each phase. I think I'll start that.now. I can always restore this backup if the solution presents in the meantime.
Yea that's what I was thinking, backup this ROM, clean install, work out the issue, restore this ROM and fix it
Good luck
Thank you I'll report back if/when I work it out, for any other possible future readers.
I changed the base ROM & installed Xposed in a different way and rooted in a different way and tweaked Permissions to be more permissive and and and... I've read rovo89's farewell so I won't say "It's xprivacy" but it's definitely how xposed & xprivacy interact, whether by flashable zip or systemless magisk. It'll work fine for a good while but then starts corrupting everything internet connecting. Removing it removes the problem & restores the app functionality.
Sadly it's the same even if you restrict nothing in xprivacy & just leave it installed & switched on. I've had to remove it. Considering trying to go back to MM as I know it worked on my previous phone.