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xoom 2 too late?

With the transformer prime rumored to be released Nov 9 and with the xoom 2 nowhere in sight the lure of a quad core tablet might inevitably draw me to the prime. I relish in xooms build quality and that's one thing that could steer me away from the prime. If it seems flimsy in design at all i'd pass. The xoom is structurally a firm tablet and I really hope to hear an official release soon of the xoom 2 or the lure of pentacore processing in the palm of my hand may be too much and I might have to reach out to asus.

I'm thinking about not bothering with the second generation tables and going for third generation instead.

I've read the xoom 2 won't come with the quad core processor therefore i will be getting an Asus Prime myself.

If Xoom 2 straps on N-Trig or Wacom digitizer interface then it is a no brainer for me since my primary work use for a slate is boardroom note taking, PDF annotation, and sketching simple line-drawings. My dual core Xoom with Tiamat is plenty capable and the next Googlerola Vanilla ICS is the experience I am looking forward to regardless of what others come up with.

lpasq said:
If Xoom 2 straps on N-Trig or Wacom digitizer interface then it is a no brainer for me since my primary work use for a slate is boardroom note taking, PDF annotation, and sketching simple line-drawings. My dual core Xoom with Tiamat is plenty capable and the next Googlerola Vanilla ICS is the experience I am looking forward to regardless of what others come up with.
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Can you tell me what you are using for note taking as well as pdf annotation? I am using Repligo for pdf but I have found noting that works well for note taking. Repligo is quirky also and I would be interested in your input. thanks

texasez said:
Can you tell me what you are using for note taking as well as pdf annotation? I am using Repligo for pdf but I have found noting that works well for note taking. Repligo is quirky also and I would be interested in your input. thanks
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Freenote is my go to on Xoom...get it from Market...last update matured it nice...still rough but it is a hybrid drawing tool with alot of features to tag files...I like it because I early adopted and know its features and many are to be discovered as needed since documentation is rough since developer is non English speaker.
The ripped and modded Supernote apk found on this forum seems to be a polished Freenote and seems to either be the developer's OEM version sold to Asus (I think that is the manufacturer ripped for the Xoom port)...If not the Freenote dev's work, then it is definitely a kang IMO.
Writepad is a XDA developed option found both on this forum and Market...people swear buy it and I like it but am condition to those above.
As for my Flyer with N-Trig and digital stylus the native note app is sweet but not ported for Xoom and capacitive interface. The sexiest app I think is the N-Trig digitized compatable MyScript Notes on Lenovo Thinkpad which can be side loaded on Flyer but I haven't yet...I had the Thinkpad Android slate for a week before selling the clunky and buggy device...This app converts freehand to type like no other to date.
As for annotation I suffer with Repligo on both Xoom and Flyer but Flyer allows direct annotations of screen shots because of N-Trig and the HTC digital stylus API.

Surface Tab for Photographers?

Looking at the new Surface tab and its features, it looks really nice. One thing that I noticed is it has pen capabilities. I have not been able to find much on the specs of this side of the tab though.
This still has me excited however as a photog. Do you think this might be a cheaper - although reduced feature - alternative to a Wacom Tablet? I bet photo editing and even full on image creation could be pretty nice on this thing.
Your thoughts?

I was thinking the same thing.
We kknow it will run Lightroom and I hope it will run Photoshop. I picture this also working as a Live view extender.

It is the Windows 8 Pro version of Surface that supports the pen input. Therefore, it is probably very similar in functionality to an existing Windows 7 tablet running Windows 8 release preview. i.e. Asus EP121, Samsung slate, etc.
The only question is what digitizer and how many levels of pressure input it supports. This is still unknown. However, given that EP121 shipped with 4GB RAM, I would expect that Windows 8 Pro would ship with at least 8GB of RAM.

groaner said:
I was thinking the same thing.
We kknow it will run Lightroom and I hope it will run Photoshop. I picture this also working as a Live view extender.
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A live view extender would be awesome. I really hope it runs PS because I would love to just draw directly on the tab. I was looking at one of those Wacom tabs but those look a bit to large to be ergonomic for me - as awesome as they are.

Hatefly said:
A live view extender would be awesome. I really hope it runs PS because I would love to just draw directly on the tab. I was looking at one of those Wacom tabs but those look a bit to large to be ergonomic for me - as awesome as they are.
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I bought the bamboo for detail photo editing and its fantastic! Only $100.

wrexus said:
It is the Windows 8 Pro version of Surface that supports the pen input. Therefore, it is probably very similar in functionality to an existing Windows 7 tablet running Windows 8 release preview. i.e. Asus EP121, Samsung slate, etc.
The only question is what digitizer and how many levels of pressure input it supports. This is still unknown. However, given that EP121 shipped with 4GB RAM, I would expect that Windows 8 Pro would ship with at least 8GB of RAM.
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I noticed this too. Windows-RT will not do pen input. I wonder if this really is down to ARM not being able to handle it, or whether it is an artificial limitation put up by Microsoft to differentiate the Pro offering? If it is the latter, it would be pathetic.

The galaxy note has pen input and runs arm. Although i dont know the pressure and all that, im no photographer... and surface pro ofcourse will run PS and it supports regular exe programs. And cs6 works fine with windows 8
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Galaxy Note II s- Pen works on Surface Pro 2

I just picked up my Surface Pro 2 64 GB yesterday.
This information would probably only appeal to a small minority of users but I discovered that my s-Pen on my Galaxy Note 2 also works on my Surface Pro 2. The s-Pen button also works on the Surface Pro 2.
This is a plus as it solves the need for a spare pen for me. I was a little concerned about how to store the Surface Pro pen while on the go but the answer is that it really doesn't matter if I have it on me because I always have my smartphone with me.
Naturally, the reverse is true too. The Surface Pro 2 pen also works on the Galaxy Note 2.
This means that the s-Pen's on the Galaxy Note tablets (10 & 8) should also work.

This is because the samsung S-Pen is a rebranding of wacom's technology (used under license). The surface pro also uses wacom. They are essentially both using the exact same tech.
The first gen galaxy note phablet did use a version with a lower pressure sensitivity though, I don't know if thats a change on the phone or stylus side and whether it would cause a forward/backward compatibility issue or not.

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This is because the samsung S-Pen is a rebranding of wacom's technology (used under license). The surface pro also uses wacom. They are essentially both using the exact same tech.
The first gen galaxy note phablet did use a version with a lower pressure sensitivity though, I don't know if thats a change on the phone or stylus side and whether it would cause a forward/backward compatibility issue or not.
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That works for me.
Actually,I like using the surface pen on the phone more than the s-pen.

How is iPAD PRO compared with our Note PRO

Hello, what do you think of the new iPAD PRO compared with our Note PRO?
Pro: may be faster graphics and higher resolutions
Con: can't use it as a cell phone, no usb, lower battery capacity?
Don't know how the GUI compared. Can the new iOS do things that we could do with the S-Pen?

Slightly higher on some things, resolution, size, slightly lower weight. NEGLIGIBLE. But no sd card slot and extra 100 for the pressure Sensitive pen. More expensive than note pro but has a 128gb option for $1049
Biggest setback, its the IOS bird cage.
I am not crazy abput apple. And they are playing catch up. I have had my pro 12.2 for a year and a half. Back when it was panned as "too big" and "too heavy" now here we are, and suddenly because apple farted, its the cats meow.
if you have the note prp 12.2 i thinkits great.Migrated nearly 95% of my workflow to it. Except leagcy programs. Even have msdos emulation. And soon, there will be vines.

globalsearch said:
Slightly higher on some things, resolution, size, slightly lower weight. NEGLIGIBLE. But no sd card slot and extra 100 for the pressure Sensitive pen. More expensive than note pro but has a 128gb option for $1049
Biggest setback, its the IOS bird cage.
I am not crazy abput apple. And they are playing catch up. I have had my pro 12.2 for a year and a half. Back when it was panned as "too big" and "too heavy" now here we are, and suddenly because apple farted, its the cats meow.
if you have the note prp 12.2 i thinkits great.Migrated nearly 95% of my workflow to it. Except leagcy programs. Even have msdos emulation. And soon, there will be vines.
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If it were running Mac OS, I would buy it. One problem with replacing my Note PRO with the iPAD PRO is that I will need to carry an extra item (phone). I have been using the Note PRO as a phone for a year already.

Pro: it will be updated...
Con: Apple product and expensive
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rodnok1 said:
Pro: it will be updated...
Con: Apple product and expensive
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Your iPad Pro "pro" is ultimately the biggest problem I have with my Note Pro, it's not going to make it to 6.0. Any Samsung owner who's had other tabs knows you rarely see anything more than a single update.
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petercohen said:
If it were running Mac OS, I would buy it. One problem with replacing my Note PRO with the iPAD PRO is that I will need to carry an extra item (phone). I have been using the Note PRO as a phone for a year already.
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I'm not sure why one would want OSX on a tablet, it inherently isn't optimized for touchscreen use like a mobile OS like iOS or Android are. Newer versions of windows try to do it but end up having to have applets to bridge the gap since in the end your run of the mill windows applications aren't touch optimized either. Sure you can tap away at menus and toolbars but the scaling of such things isn't always ideal.
I like OSX but mainly for its simplicity and my ability to move around using keyboard commands and gestures (I never use the dock or mission control, only Alfred and keyboard shortcuts).

LG active Pen stylus support

Wacom active static pen
Floating screen and handwriting-sketch available
Built-in battery … 50,000 won
LG stylus dedicated pen
LG Electronics is equipped with AES-style stylus pen recognition on the LG V60 ThinQ 5G and the new dual screen.
LG Electronics chose the stylus pen as a smartphone new weapon following the dual screen. The LG V60 ThinQ 5G supports Wacom Active Electrostatic (AES) pens, providing a free writing and creative environment.
LG Electronics has added a new Wacom AES driver IC to the LG V60 ThinQ 5G display and the new dual screen. In line with product launches in North America and Europe, LG's exclusive stylus pen will also be introduced.
It is a form of carrying a pen, not storing it in a device. It's closer to Apple's iPad and Apple Pencil than Samsung's Galaxy Note. The combination of dual screens that provide additional screens and a pen that supports free input creates a unique product identity.
The LG V60 ThinQ 5G main screen as well as the dual screen can be input with a stylus pen. You can have a video or app on one screen and write or sketch on another screen. Nebo, a handwriting app that converts handwriting, figures, and formulas into digital, is installed.
Compatible with all pens with Wacom AES. Depending on the region, the pens are said to be sold separately or as a free gift.
LG V60 ThinQ 5G
LG Electronics introduces the stylus pen support feature only on the LG V60 ThinQ 5G homepage in Europe, including Italy. In North America, it was not mentioned at the time of the product release, but the functionality is supported the same. It is interpreted as a difference according to customer demand and marketing strategy by region.
The AES, supported by the LG V60 ThinQ 5G, incorporates a battery inside the pen itself. It is similar in size and shape to a regular pen, which is advantageous in grip.
Bamboo Ink, the basic model of the Wacom AES stylus family, uses AAAA batteries and recognizes up to 4096 levels of pressure. The price is about 50,000 won, and LG's pen is also expected to be similar.
LG Electronics LG Gram Two-in-One
LG Electronics also loaded the related functions on the LG Gram Two-in-One laptop, which rotates the screen 360 degrees. The Wacom stylus pen, which comes as a standard component, is also compatible with the LG V60 ThinQ 5G.
An LG Electronics official said, “We expect the demand for smart pens will increase in the North American smartphone market, centering on 5G smartphones.”
LG Electronics will launch the LG V60 ThinQ 5G in major Asian countries except Europe and Korea this month, starting in North America. In Korea, the company will introduce a 'mass premium' model with performance at a reasonable price in the second quarter.

Awesome to hear that any Wacom AES stylus will work with the phone.

I can confirm that the Wacom AES based pens work on this device. I have the AT&T variant of the V60 and I'm using the pen that came with my HP Elite X2. I'm going to try to find an app that supports pressure sensitivity in these pens to see if it works on this phone.
Update: Autodesk SketchBook supports pressure, but the built in QMemo app does not seem to support in or at least i couldn't get it to work/make any noticeable difference.

stepheng273 said:
I can confirm that the Wacom AES based pens work on this device. I have the AT&T variant of the V60 and I'm using the pen that came with my HP Elite X2. I'm going to try to find an app that supports pressure sensitivity in these pens to see if it works on this phone.
Update: Autodesk SketchBook supports pressure, but the built in QMemo app does not seem to support in or at least i couldn't get it to work/make any noticeable difference.
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Same here. I used the pen that came with Dell XPS 15 and it works great on most apps. :good:

stepheng273 said:
I can confirm that the Wacom AES based pens work on this device. I have the AT&T variant of the V60 and I'm using the pen that came with my HP Elite X2. I'm going to try to find an app that supports pressure sensitivity in these pens to see if it works on this phone.
Update: Autodesk SketchBook supports pressure, but the built in QMemo app does not seem to support in or at least i couldn't get it to work/make any noticeable difference.
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I bought that LG Active Pen the OP mentioned and it works great with the V60. I also bought the Bamboo Ink and Ink Plus and both also work fine. I figure any wacom AES stylus/pen would.
All three are smooth and have pressure sensitivity. As for Qmemo and the built in Nebo apps, the pressure sensitivity does work with all 3 pens I have mentioned.

I'm able to use Bamboo Ink with LG's QuickMemo+ and Nebo apps. But when i press the Ink's side buttons, nothing happens (despite configuring the Pen key shortcut settings in the V60). Can anyone help?

Problem solved. Just realized i need to point the stylus tip close to the screen in order to activate the side buttons!

wwyjoe said:
I'm able to use Bamboo Ink with LG's QuickMemo+ and Nebo apps. But when i press the Ink's side buttons, nothing happens (despite configuring the Pen key shortcut settings in the V60). Can anyone help?
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Quick memo does it support pressure sensitivity & Palm rejection

I bought the second generation Meko stylus but just realized I used ADB to nuke LG QuickMemo+. Woops!

twospirits said:
Awesome to hear that any Wacom AES stylus will work with the phone.
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Wacom Intuos Pens do NOT work... they MUST be AES! ... I tried...

slyguy2000 said:
Wacom Intuos Pens do NOT work... they MUST be AES! ... I tried...
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Umm if i am not mistaken the pen that comes with the Wacom Intuos "Wacom Pen 4K (LP-1100K) " is a EMR type pen, so naturally it won't work on the V60. It has to be AES.

if only the Samsung note spen would work with the v60, im not sure id be happy to carry a large pen in my pocket and the note s pen would be a perfect size... anyone know of smaller stylus that works on the LG v60?

Ever since it was announced I've been looking at those AES style pens for work. Now if I could find someone with a cracked 2nd screen that works so I can use parts from my case to fix it.

I got a Heiyo Active Stylus and can confirm that it does NOT work with the V60.
https://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Rechargeable-Supporting-Touchsreen-Sensitivity/dp/B07JCS4VBL
does anyone know of a USB rechargeable stylus that has AES?