Shelter: Second work profile possible? - Security Discussion

I am using shelter (from F-Droid) to separate whatsapp from my other phone.
WA runs in the work profile only.
Is it possible to generate a second work profile where some different apps can be sheltered?
These shall be sheltered from the normal phone as well as the first shelter.

nadastry said:
I am using shelter (from F-Droid) to separate whatsapp from my other phone.
WA runs in the work profile only.
Is it possible to generate a second work profile where some different apps can be sheltered?
These shall be sheltered from the normal phone as well as the first shelter.
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Unfortunately this is not possible, android does only allow for one work profile.
If you are still using shelter or island and want more functionality and convenience (for example a simple to use file transfer or want to hide apps),
you may want to take a look at SRT Vault.

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[App] SwitchMe - Share Your Device - MULTIPLE USER SPACES

Hi guys Im one of the developers of SwitchMe - an app that creates multiple user spaces. We have just released a new build which should fully support the Note. Please have a look and let me know if everything is working as it should!
Thanks in advance, PR after the break:
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SwitchMe - share your device!
SwitchMe is a unique application for root users that allows you to log in and out of multiple installations of Android just as you would on a desktop computer.
SwitchMe is a unique application for root users that allows you to log in and out of multiple user spaces just as you would on a desktop computer, with each profile having its own separate system settings, apps and data.
Some of the benefits of this technology:
Privacy
Securely share one device among many users, protect your accounts with passwords and log out automatically.
Kids
Create a profile for the kids, with only the apps and access you feel comfortable with.
Gaming
Overclock your profile for maximum performance in intensive games
Speed
Imagine a buttery smooth profile, with no kids games, messengers or bloatware to slow things down.
Testing
Create a sandbox profile to easily test applications and themes - no more nandroid nightmares!
Battery
Switch to a profile which only contains the essentials to save power through brute force.
Critical usage warning:
Incorrect use of this application can potentially harm your device. Before proceeding with use we strongly recommend that you perform a full nandroid backup through the device recovery.
READ THE HELP FILE CAREFULLY TO AVOID ISSUES
Without the Key, this application allows a maximum of 2 profiles and no security features.
Only the standard Android implementation of Apps2SD is currently supported. Use all others at your own risk.
Most devices should be compatible as long as they have enough free internal memory to create secondary profiles. The application will warn users if available memory is low.
These of course are only suggestions - there are plenty of other uses for the functionality SwitchMe offers.
Market link:
https://market.android.com/details?id=fahrbot.apps.switchme
The free version allows the creation of two profiles and has no security features.
Screens:
Anything to report?
still in love with this app , what a great idea ! thanks agian !
Excellent work.
If you like it, please rate it on the Store
Anything to report?
Everything work fine on the first day, but later when i boot in my second account, it reboot for almost 10 mins and lost my active one, and lost everything
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So, what changes did you make to your system? Because generally things have both cause and effect...
no big changes with my tab, just normal use, no overclock... its just a clean install on the second account. I just want to use it after work for playing game and web surfing. that's it. But when i want to switch it back to my active account, it switched off immediately and reboot for almost 10mins, and boot into the second account and i lost my active one.
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htc_black said:
no big changes with my tab, just normal use, no overclock... its just a clean install on the second account. I just want to use it after work for playing game and web surfing. that's it. But when i want to switch it back to my active account, it switched off immediately and reboot for almost 10mins, and boot into the second account and i lost my active one.
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You didnt lose anything, you just switched profiles... the first switch between any two can take a while.
Guys there have been reports of the app being blank sometimes. Im trying to work out if this is something to do with superuser vs supersu. If youve experienced this, please let me know and be sure to tell me which of the two youre using...

WhatsApp Clone App

Hi all,
I finally made the jump to OnePlus!
However, there is one feature that I miss from Honor 6x, and that is App Twin, which I use for having my two WhatsApp Numbers on the same phone. (Yeah dual sim is great!)
What is a good alternative to this for OnePlus 6?
OnePlus has a similar feature.
Go to settings -> Apps -> Parallel Apps
Works pretty much the same. Enable it for WhatsApp and you'll have 2 WhatsApp with individual accounts.
Shironomia said:
OnePlus has a similar feature.
Go to settings -> Apps -> Parallel Apps
Works pretty much the same. Enable it for WhatsApp and you'll have 2 WhatsApp with individual accounts.
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Oh that's so great to hear! I didn't realize that there was this feature! Loving my device more every moment!
drakenabarion said:
Oh that's so great to hear! I didn't realize that there was this feature! Loving my device more every moment!
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Just keep in mind that parallel apps will break twrp backups unless you delete them before you restore.
Or install WhatsApp and WhatsApp for Business then you don't need parallel apps.
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iElvis said:
Just keep in mind that parallel apps will break twrp backups unless you delete them before you restore.
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How exactly does it break backups? I've used TWRP backups and restore on the boot partition before while having it enabled. Or does it only break it for certain partitions?
Shironomia said:
How exactly does it break backups? I've used TWRP backups and restore on the boot partition before while having it enabled. Or does it only break it for certain partitions?
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I don't use them so I don't have any experience with it. But many, many people have reported problems with it. There are a couple of threads discussing the issue, here's one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/255-error-twrp-backup-restore-999-t3801632
It may have been fixed with the most recent OOS update.
Shironomia said:
How exactly does it break backups? I've used TWRP backups and restore on the boot partition before while having it enabled. Or does it only break it for certain partitions?
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The OnePlus 6 uses a/b partitioning which is different than many other devices with the exception of a few. While doing a backup with twrp you will run into a 255 error (999 folders) created by parallel apps. This will either happen when you make a backup or when restoring. I personally have not heard of a workaround besides deleting the folders before backing up. I have found a way to remove these folders permanently without having to delete them one by one. Here is my thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/255-error-twrp-backup-restore-999-t3801632
The Parallel app is working nicely and shows up in the app drawer as a separate icon.
However the original WhatsApp now also opens the "choose optional or parallel app" screen.
Anyone know how to cause the original WhatsApp to just act like a normal WhatsApp, just like the parallel version does?
I generally keep the WhatsApp versions on different screens - home number and abroad number, which are both used equally as much. I edited different colour icons to keep them distinguishable.
Actually using WhatsApp business might be an option for this but I want to support the first party features first before trying that.
Parallel Apps has too many disadvantages for me, like the screen where you have to choose for the normal or the parallel app version. Also the parallel app version stores it's data (like pictures and video's) in a part of the os which you can only access if you have root. Furthermore did the parallel version of WhatsApp crash once for me and I could only get it back to work normally by using a testpackage from OnePlus. None of these problems when using WhatsApp for Business.
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For app cloning/multiple accounts I use ISLAND. It's such a cool app. You can create an Island Profile and a Mainland Profile (the apps and the clones of the apps). I use it in "God Mode."
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/closed-beta-test-incoming-companion-app-t3366295
rmaathuis said:
Parallel Apps has too many disadvantages for me, like the screen where you have to choose for the normal or the parallel app version. Also the parallel app version stores it's data (like pictures and video's) in a part of the os which you can only access if you have root. Furthermore did the parallel version of WhatsApp crash once for me and I could only get it back to work normally by using a testpackage from OnePlus. None of these problems when using WhatsApp for Business.
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I just installed WhatsApp Business. Yeah the only difference that matters is that it says business in the app and the icon has a B in the notification.
B is okay, because it's for the secondary account and it's fine to label it B. I am not so OCD to care that it says business in the app. (yeah from someone who spent almost 24 hours replicating his preferred settings in all apps).
Point is, it functions just as I need now. ?
Edit: actually at this point I think I will disable Parallel completely. I am currently looking for the command to delete profile 999, which I saw in a previous thread while looking for rooting methods.
Thanks all for the replies!
rmaathuis said:
Parallel Apps has too many disadvantages for me, like the screen where you have to choose for the normal or the parallel app version. Also the parallel app version stores it's data (like pictures and video's) in a part of the os which you can only access if you have root. Furthermore did the parallel version of WhatsApp crash once for me and I could only get it back to work normally by using a testpackage from OnePlus. None of these problems when using WhatsApp for Business.
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The test package looks like a simple solution compared to many other ways of restoring data
rmaathuis said:
Or install WhatsApp and WhatsApp for Business then you don't need parallel apps.
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Can u do that? Have them both?
I thought WhatsApp business also uses com.whatsapp
Yes, you can install them both and link each of them to a different phone number without a problem.
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Really Amazing Feature to develop One Plus 6
That's grate features in Android 6S plus.
WhatsApp Clone
rmaathuis said:
Parallel Apps has too many disadvantages for me, like the screen where you have to choose for the normal or the parallel app version. Also the parallel app version stores it's data (like pictures and video's) in a part of the os which you can only access if you have root. Furthermore did the parallel version of WhatsApp crash once for me and I could only get it back to work normally by using a testpackage from OnePlus. None of these problems when using WhatsApp for Business.
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Can you tell me "How to Use WhatsApp Clone in Android Phone"
Just install WhatsApp and link it to your first SIM. Then install WhatsApp for Business and link it to your second SIM. That's all.
Yeah, i am using whatsapp and whatsapp business on the same phone *2 sims* since whatsapp business has launched.

[Q] Parallel Apps (Utility), and Systemizing it with xXx.NoLimits ?

So my situation is:
I have 2 SIM cards, and each SIM card has a WhatsApp account (WhatsApp + WhatsApp Parallel App).
I was trying to Systemize WhatsApp (using xXx.NoLimits) because it is Mission Critical application I use for work, and need it to be reliable.
When I went to Systemize WhatsApp, it worked - but the Parallel App account would not open (just said permission denied).
I then tried removing the Parallel WhatsApp before Systemizing, and after Systemizing WhatsApp I cannot add a parallel WhatsApp (via the Parallel App Utility).
And my question(s) is:
How does the Parallel App Utility work, does it create a 2nd .apk file (then I could Systemize both .apks), and where is that .apk located?
Has anyone gotten Systemized applications to create a Parallel version via the Utility?
How could I fix the permission denied issue for the Parallel WhatsApp?
Thanks in advance for any useful input/answers!
only4dank said:
So my situation is:
I have 2 SIM cards, and each SIM card has a WhatsApp account (WhatsApp + WhatsApp Parallel App).
I was trying to Systemize WhatsApp (using xXx.NoLimits) because it is Mission Critical application I use for work, and need it to be reliable.
When I went to Systemize WhatsApp, it worked - but the Parallel App account would not open (just said permission denied).
I then tried removing the Parallel WhatsApp before Systemizing, and after Systemizing WhatsApp I cannot add a parallel WhatsApp (via the Parallel App Utility).
And my question(s) is:
How does the Parallel App Utility work, does it create a 2nd .apk file (then I could Systemize both .apks), and where is that .apk located?
Has anyone gotten Systemized applications to create a Parallel version via the Utility?
How could I fix the permission denied issue for the Parallel WhatsApp?
Thanks in advance for any useful input/answers!
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bumping for 9.0.5 OTA upgrading people returning to forums.
Why do you want to systemize WhatsApp?
This is the first time I am coming across someone wanting to systemize it. I do not know of any advantages that WhatsApp could have as a system application -- it will work as it is, even if you don't systemize it. Au contraire, by systemizing it, you are taking additional steps with the end result being unreliability.
a.cid said:
Why do you want to systemize WhatsApp?
This is the first time I am coming across someone wanting to systemize it. I do not know of any advantages that WhatsApp could have as a system application -- it will work as it is, even if you don't systemize it. Au contraire, by systemizing it, you are taking additional steps with the end result being unreliability.
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Notifications are not reliable (at least with xXx.NoLimits). Both WhatApp, and Paralleled one, are not consistent on getting notifications. Also using Franz for WhatssApp Web front-end, and it does not hold stable connection over extended periods of time.
Using WhatsApp for work (both accounts), so it is mission critical
only4dank said:
Notifications are not reliable (at least with xXx.NoLimits). Both WhatApp, and Paralleled one, are not consistent on getting notifications. Also using Franz for WhatssApp Web front-end, and it does not hold stable connection over extended periods of time.
Using WhatsApp for work (both accounts), so it is mission critical
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Would converting it to system app solve these issues? I think not.
Have you restored whatsapp data through Titanium Backup? Do you have whatsapp excluded from Doze? These are more likely to impact(/solve) your notification issues
a.cid said:
Would converting it to system app solve these issues? I think not.
Have you restored whatsapp data through Titanium Backup? Do you have whatsapp excluded from Doze? These are more likely to impact(/solve) your notification issues
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Have not backed-up/restored data using Titanium backup.
Issue is with WhatsApp being killed in background (even though it is marked to NOT be battery optimized)... (see explanation on xXx NoLimits thread below)
xXx said:
Systemizing Apps
For all who have issues with apps being killed in the background even they are marked as not to be battery optimized. If this happens, you won't get notifications anymore from that specific app and next time you jump to that app it have to be loaded again instead of still being available in Ram.
In order to work around this issue, you can now place your critical apps as apk file with any filename in the following folder:
/sdcard/xXx/apps
All apk files will be installed as system apps when you flash NoLimits next time.
Now your selected apps will behave like a system app and as system apps are excluded from battery optimization mechanisms, they are most likely not killed anymore in background.
Let's say you want to do this with Whatsapp and have Whatsapp already installed as user app. This is not a problem. You don't lose any data and if updates are available, they will be applied by the Playstore like always. The apps are installed system-less as part of the NoLimits Magisk Module and NOT placed on the system partition.
If you want to add further apps, just place the apk files in /sdcard/xXx/apps and flash NoLimits again. Or if you want to remove some, or all apps simple remove the apk's or remove the apps folder and flash NoLimits again.
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Systemizing it fixed it for me, however the problem was I could not create a Parallel App of WhatsApp, via the Android Utility, to be Systemized as well.
Alternatively, there are 3rd party apps that I can use (and am using temporarily)- however I want to use the built in Parallel App within the native Android Utility. Not keen on using 3rd party apps for this type of problem.
only4dank said:
Have not backed-up/restored data using Titanium backup.
Issue is with WhatsApp being killed in background (even though it is marked to NOT be battery optimized)... (see explanation on xXx NoLimits thread below)
Systemizing it fixed it for me, however the problem was I could not create a Parallel App of WhatsApp, via the Android Utility, to be Systemized as well.
Alternatively, there are 3rd party apps that I can use (and am using temporarily)- however I want to use the built in Parallel App within the native Android Utility. Not keen on using 3rd party apps for this type of problem.
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Ahh, this is a specific issue with the ROM. I am not sure why the ROM is so aggressive with how it handles background processing. I would advise asking this in the ROM thread as other users using that ROM would be better equipped in answering the question of how to systemize a parallel app.
Alternatively, I would also suggest just moving away from the ROM if WhatsApp is so critical to your functioning. WhatsApp is known to ban accounts using unofficial derivative apps (not referring to parallel apps in this case), so you are at risk of losing access to an important resource. The stock ROM would not require you to systemize any app to continue receiving notifications.
a.cid said:
Ahh, this is a specific issue with the ROM. I am not sure why the ROM is so aggressive with how it handles background processing. I would advise asking this in the ROM thread as other users using that ROM would be better equipped in answering the question of how to systemize a parallel app.
Alternatively, I would also suggest just moving away from the ROM if WhatsApp is so critical to your functioning. WhatsApp is known to ban accounts using unofficial derivative apps (not referring to parallel apps in this case), so you are at risk of losing access to an important resource. The stock ROM would not require you to systemize any app to continue receiving notifications.
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Ya well I like the NoLimits Magisk Module, so I will use this workaround for the time being .
But it seems this notification issue is related to Android Pie and affects a whole list of devices (stack overflow, xda forums, Reddit - all have reports of this issue).
only4dank said:
Ya well I like the NoLimits Magisk Module, so I will use this workaround for the time being .
But it seems this notification issue is related to Android Pie and affects a whole list of devices (stack overflow, xda forums, Reddit - all have reports of this issue).
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Yes, there is a notification issue. But I am betting it is related to the module you are using, rather than be the same bug.
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Yes, there is a notification issue. But I am betting it is related to the module you are using, rather than be the same bug.
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Very well could be true about being a different bug. I have no way to prove that it is the same bug or isn't.
For me, Systemizing WhatsApp with xXx.NoLimits does fix the problem - but still, I would like to use the built in OOS Parallel Utility to clone WhatsApp and Systemize that clone.
That is why I was wondering A) how to solve the permissions problem for cloned app once WhatsApp is Systemized, and B) how does OOS Parallel Utility work on a technical level.
Have not seen any info on either of these things (from these forums or elsewhere).
So at the moment I am using very old version of an application that got banned from the Play Store to clone WhatsApp so I can Systemize WhatsApp - and everything works.
Not really what I want to do though, if you catch my drift.

Can cloned apps co-exist with work profile apps in split screen mode?

Hi folks, I am tempted to replace my old phone with the newly released 8T.
There is a certain feature I would like the 8T/Oxygen OS to have, which is to run apps with its cloned version and work profile version simultaneously in split screen mode (2 foreground both active and 1 background).
The phone I have right now runs MIUI and I am able to create a cloned version of the app with MIUI's built in cloning feature, and then I used Island to create a work profile version or the app, making it 3 copies total of a certain app, and I am able to run the them all at once in split screen mode.
I don't have oneplus devices so I am unable to test it. but I did go to my local store to see if oneplus/oxygen os can clone. Unfortunately it could not clone the app i want. and then i was told that if i install it through ADB or some tricks in developer settings I can clone, plus help from Island I can also have 3 copies. But the guy told all these also mentioned that he had problem running further copied apps (like other work profile and cloned apps) as it crashed and he couldn't find a way to fix it.
Can someone verify these? does cloning apps through ADB always have issues running with the original apps and work profile apps? thanks in advanced

How to install more than 1 Grab on 1 device?

Hi all,
I have a question that how to install more 1 application Grab on 1 phone. Because this app will be block if you trying to install more than 1 on 1 phone. I assume it got IMEI and MAC address of device and save it. I tried to use the application to clone app but not effect.
Do you have any exp or solution for fixing it? Please share with me. Thank you so much.
What model of device are you doing this on?
duydinh said:
Hi all,
I have a question that how to install more 1 application Grab on 1 phone. Because this app will be block if you trying to install more than 1 on 1 phone. I assume it got IMEI and MAC address of device and save it. I tried to use the application to clone app but not effect.
Do you have any exp or solution for fixing it? Please share with me. Thank you so much.
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With regards to a single-user Android:
Some Android devices offer native support for app cloning. It lets you run multiple copies of the same app without having to install any third-party tool. This feature is available on Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, and OnePlus phones, among others.
Anyways, there are tons of cloning apps on Google Play. Not all of them are reliable or safe, though. So let's look at some of the best cloning apps out there and how to use them to install the same app twice on Android:
Parallel Space
is a pioneer in the app cloning niche and is based on multiDroid, the first and fastest Android virtualization system. You can use it to create two versions of an app with separate data files, so both versions run independently.
It provides excellent privacy features to protect your data, and you can keep the cloned apps in a secret space with a security lock using the incognito installation.
Dual space
is another solid cloning app with low CPU consumption and great social account support. It can clone almost all social apps, including WhatsApp, and allows you to use both the standard and cloned apps simultaneously without data interference.
Dual Space also manages notifications from cloned apps effectively, so they won't interfere with the regular apps. Its Private Space feature lets you use multiple social accounts in complete privacy and with zero traces. And with its quick cloning feature, you can quickly duplicate all apps.
With regards to a multi-user Android:
Simply install the app in question per configured user.
ze7zez said:
What model of device are you doing this on?
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Im using s20+. Not root because the application checking root status of device.
jwoegerbauer said:
With regards to a single-user Android:
Some Android devices offer native support for app cloning. It lets you run multiple copies of the same app without having to install any third-party tool. This feature is available on Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, and OnePlus phones, among others.
Anyways, there are tons of cloning apps on Google Play. Not all of them are reliable or safe, though. So let's look at some of the best cloning apps out there and how to use them to install the same app twice on Android:
Parallel Space
is a pioneer in the app cloning niche and is based on multiDroid, the first and fastest Android virtualization system. You can use it to create two versions of an app with separate data files, so both versions run independently.
It provides excellent privacy features to protect your data, and you can keep the cloned apps in a secret space with a security lock using the incognito installation.
Dual space
is another solid cloning app with low CPU consumption and great social account support. It can clone almost all social apps, including WhatsApp, and allows you to use both the standard and cloned apps simultaneously without data interference.
Dual Space also manages notifications from cloned apps effectively, so they won't interfere with the regular apps. Its Private Space feature lets you use multiple social accounts in complete privacy and with zero traces. And with its quick cloning feature, you can quickly duplicate all apps.
With regards to a multi-user Android:
Simply install the app in question per configured user.
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Hi bro.
I used but it block. The application using for clone app can not be use. I think we need to change imei but if we change, we need to root device. But if root. We can not open Grab or shopee
duydinh said:
Im using s20+. Not root because the application checking root status of device.
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Root is not necessary. Activate Secure Folder, and in it add the previously installed "Grab" application.
ze7zez said:
Root is not necessary. Activate Secure Folder, and in it add the previously installed "Grab" application.
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I use the Secure Folder but it still add 1 app. I need to clone more than 1. also SF need to fingerprint/PIN each opening it.
duydinh said:
I use the Secure Folder but it still add 1 app. I need to clone more than 1. also SF need to fingerprint/PIN each opening it.
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Provide an author link to the application.
ze7zez said:
Root is not necessary. Activate Secure Folder, and in it add the previously installed "Grab" application.
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do you know how to clone SF app?
duydinh said:
do you know how to clone SF app?
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In SF, tap "Add apps" and select an app.
ze7zez said:
In SF, tap "Add apps" and select an app.
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i mean how to clone SF app, i want to install more than 1 SF on my device but dont know how to do it
duydinh said:
i mean how to clone SF app, i want to install more than 1 SF on my device but dont know how to do it
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What makes you think this is possible?

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