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1) How can I tell if my phone is running on a 3.5G network? I am on T-Mobile in Virginia Beach, VA.
2) I know there are different bands out there for different carriers, so can I change to a band that can get me better 3G coverage? I have slooooow 3G coverage where I am right now.
Any help in the right direction would be awesome, and don't be afraid to dumb it down for me. I am getting pretty savvy on all this phone stuff, but bands still elude me.
Hi
until recently, 3.5G was known as HSPA7.2. If your device shows "H", then your device can use the HSPA (real) speeds.
If so, and your browsing is slow, then this is mainly due to saturation and low signal strength, but exists more factors.
To use another bands, you must change the service provider (and change your device). No manually way to do it.
Best regards
iusauser said:
Hi
until recently, 3.5G was known as HSPA7.2. If your device shows "H", then your device can use the HSPA (real) speeds.
If so, and your browsing is slow, then this is mainly due to saturation and low signal strength, but exists more factors.
To use another bands, you must change the service provider (and change your device). No manually way to do it.
Best regards
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I recently visited Jacksonville Florida where my CM7 Rom showed me I was running on 4g. When I came back home to Virginia Beach it is showing me a H. Stock rom shows me as 4g but CM7 still shows me as H (HSPA). Is this truly telling me that I am operating on 3.5G network here in Virginia Beach?
So I know all the issues with older 2g sims affecting speeds, I called tmobile, and they said that I was in fact registered with a 2g sim, so I had them activate the sim that came in the box, but I have no improvement in speed. I'm still getting nowhere above 2mbps, most of the time around 1. I know I have a 4g data plan, they added that when I got the phone for immediate activation, not next billing cycle. Even in areas where my old mytouch 3G slide got 4 mbps on the 3G HSPA network, I can't get much above 2 on the HSPA+ network. What gives? If the new 4g sim and data plan aren't working, what's the issue here? Anyone else having issues?
Are you sure that you're connected to HSPA+? And, even if you are connected with good reception to a HSPA+ tower, that doesn't mean that the tower has good bandwidth backhaul. If its a low traffic tower, T-Mobile might not want to pay for a large amount of bandwidth for it.
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I suppose I can't be positive, but the icon says 4G. Although I've never seen a 3G icon, only G, 2G, and 4G, meaning they probably just replaced the 3G icon with the 4G icon since the phone can't technically display a different icon for HSPA and HSPA+, can it? I've never seen a 3G icon so I might just be connected to 3G. But even in populous areas, like downtown, at night, I top out at 4, MAYBE 5 mbps. I've heard people getting 4 or 5 on a bad day, 7-8 average and 10-12 if they're lucky. I'm wondering where that's at, maybe it's a flaw in the stock rom and an AOSP or other custom rom would be better. I seem to remember having bad speeds on sense on my Slide too.
During data transfer, I went to the about phone>network menu, and mobile network type reads HSDPA and then reverts to UMTS after a period of inactivity. It does not specify HSDPA+ though, it just says HSDPA. I understand that the 3g and 4g networks on tmobile are technically one and the same, HSDPA+ is just an advancement of the 3G technology, but I'm wondering if something just isn't clicking and the phone isn't taking advantage of HSDPA+. I checked the coverage map, and the entire region I live in, minus a few rural areas, are supposed to be covered by 4G data.
I got my nexus Today and as soon as I popped in my Sim card, I noticed I was already receiving LTE signal , I didn't notice any speed bumps , just on my notification bar I noticed the LTE icon , so my question is am I really getting LTE reception without paying extra ? Maybe I'll take advantage of the LTE signal where 3.5g was weak , I'm on T-Mobile Germany and they do have LTE
I don't know I'd I should just call them or if its not legal :/
Anyone?
Chad_Petree said:
Anyone?
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I think its just connecting you to the LTE as the network is available but you . But you wont get any benefit from it as in speed as you havent updated to LTE from your carrier .
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I think its just connecting you to the LTE as the network is available but you . But you wont get any benefit from it as in speed as you havent updated to LTE from your carrier .
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So basically i'm receiving LTE but with my regular 3.5g speed, right? It's not that bad actually, if it's true that LTE signals penetrates in places where 3g doesn't, then looks like it's a win win-win situation for me :silly:
Base on the LTE network chart, T-Mobile in Germany use LTE band 3 and 20 which the international Nexus 5 support. It depends on your carrier plans. In USA, there isn't an LTE tier with T-Mobile, its included by default with regular data plans.
Sort answer is yes, if you're getting data and you see the LTE icon, you're getting LTE.
eksasol said:
Base on the LTE network chart, T-Mobile in Germany use LTE band 3 and 20 which the international Nexus 5 support. It depends on what your carrier. In USA, there isn't LTE tier, its included default regular data plans.
You can easily check by Settings -> About -> Status: Mobile network type.
Sort answer is yes, if you're getting data and you see the LTE icon, you're getting LTE.
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I got my nexus 5 on the german playstore , when im ready to upgrade to a plan with faster speeds , will I be able to do it without any problems at all?
Chad_Petree said:
I got my nexus 5 on the german playstore , when im ready to upgrade to a plan with faster speeds , will I be able to do it without any problems at all?
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LTE is already the fastest data delivery method from T-Mobile and if you already have it, I don't know of any faster speed plan. You could upgrade to one that give higher data cap or unlimited data.
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LTE is already the fastest data delivery method from T-Mobile and if you already have it, I don't know of any faster speed plan. You could upgrade to one that give higher data cap or unlimited data.
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I currently have a 3.5g plan with 21 mbps , the LTE plans have 50 mpbs and 100 mpbs speed caps , I believe on Germany there's not a single company that offers unlimited data, but I don't really need it neither
Chad_Petree said:
I currently have a 3.5g plan with 21 mbps , the LTE plans have 50 mpbs and 100 mpbs speed caps , I believe on Germany there's not a single company that offers unlimited data, but I don't really need it neither
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3.5G doesn't mean anything but just to categorize. It means HSPA+. But you should check with T-Mobile if your current plan have LTE. As far as I know you in the US you get LTE with T-Mobile if you have a data plan.
Chad_Petree said:
So basically i'm receiving LTE but with my regular 3.5g speed, right? It's not that bad actually, if it's true that LTE signals penetrates in places where 3g doesn't, then looks like it's a win win-win situation for me :silly:
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Yup its a win win situation for you !
On EE in the UK im getting 15mbps from 3g enabled. With 4g im getting 20... Humm so 3g is 3g and 4g is H+ speeds??
anshmiester78900 said:
Yup its a win win situation for you !
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WOW , I'm so happy, usually in class i struggle to get 2g, yep the reception is that bad and today I went with my Nexus 5 and surprise suprise! i have LTE on my classroom :highfive: , I was so excited specially because I'm learning german in the moment and i have to use the dictionary/translator a looot, this definitely changes my day to day now :highfive:
I will start off by saying I live in Seattle, the homeland for t-mobile. I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing 5g actually being slower than 4g. Not just by feel, but by statistics and facts.
This is the case for me. Now I understand 5G is not global yet, but I think New York has it. I am getting about 21mbps download and 12 upload with 5g. On 4g, I am getting 41mbps down and about 12 up.
My Wifi at home gets 475mbps download, and 25 up. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.!
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I will start off by saying I live in Seattle, the homeland for t-mobile. I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing 5g actually being slower than 4g. Not just by feel, but by statistics and facts.
This is the case for me. Now I understand 5G is not global yet, but I think New York has it. I am getting about 21mbps download and 12 upload with 5g. On 4g, I am getting 41mbps down and about 12 up.
My Wifi at home gets 475mbps download, and 25 up. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.!
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I am getting very close speed to the LTE in upstate NY. Not sure if it is really 5G
Here is a screenshot with some of my results between LTE, 5G and WiFi
Here it is sorry
RobTegland said:
I will start off by saying I live in Seattle, the homeland for t-mobile. I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing 5g actually being slower than 4g. Not just by feel, but by statistics and facts.
This is the case for me. Now I understand 5G is not global yet, but I think New York has it. I am getting about 21mbps download and 12 upload with 5g. On 4g, I am getting 41mbps down and about 12 up.
My Wifi at home gets 475mbps download, and 25 up. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.!
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Just got my OnePlus 8 Friday In Peoria just outside Phoenix and most of our cities are 5g tmo ready and getting the same have not had one test where 5g works faster then 4g..
I dont think it has anything to do with T mobile having its headquarters in Washington...
I think it was more John Legre blowing typical marketing smoke and some of us fell for it!
With full bars for me, I get 80+ mbps on 4G LTE and around 110 mbps with 5G. I live in Akron, Ohio. From what I've read, the (600 MHz sub-6) 5G that T-Mobile offers is more about coverage than it is speeds. mmWave is more for speed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidcentral.com/best-carriers-5g?amp
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With full bars for me, I get 80+ mbps on 4G LTE and around 110 mbps with 5G. I live in Akron, Ohio. From what I've read, the (600 MHz sub-6) 5G that T-Mobile offers is more about coverage than it is speeds. mmWave is more for speed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidcentral.com/best-carriers-5g?amp
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Are you able to post your speeds?
I live in Boise Idaho and just got the OnePlus 8 yesterday. I ran speed tests on my OnePlus and the 5G seems to be anywhere between 30mbps-60mbps faster than my 4g LTE is ?* Don't pay attention to the first test. That was on the outskirts of my town and I only had barely any service, just wanted to test it to see with basically no service how fast it could go.
I work at a Tmobile store so I think I can help a bit but I’m not speaking for the company. So your phone is working fine Tmobile has 3 layers of 5G: Low band , Midband, And High band. Right now the current 5G that is available across the country is low band the speeds are slower but you have much better coverage, with the sprint merger they will next be rolling out the midband which will give you better speeds but not as great of coverage as the low band. Then they will roll out the high band which will be super fast but not very reliable (Verizon uses only high band and the signal can be easily blocked) right now in NYC they have working on all 3 layers at once and eventually that will expand. The benefit of being on the 5G network right now is that it separated from the LTE users so there is a lot less congestion.
I'm in Philadelphia, PA and my 5G seems way slower than any 4G ever was.
Also close, just north of Seattle. I'm on ATT MVNO Consumer Cellular now as their LTE speeds are better than T-Mobile around here.
I tried a Mint Mobile 250MB trial SIM and drove around testing. I was connecting to normal LTE bands (2, 4, 12, 66,.. Couldn't connect to tasty 71) running 5G protocol. I ran through the data quickly but speeds seemed to be on par with T-Mobile LTE. Cell speeds around here have always been pretty congested.
I can't get Consumer Cellular to connect to ATT 5G with ANY combination of settings but that could be maybe OP8 IMEI must be whitelisted with ATT (thought they just did that) or Consumer Cellular doesn't allow 5G even though an old site page says they will.
In the pic the 5G one is the only T-Mobile test I actually ran outside the Google speed test page. Red icon is using single connection (more realistic) and green is multi connection.
For now I guess ATT LTE still faster.
Also what is 5G Smart Switching (or whatever) in settings page?
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Sorry, just saw this. Been hella busy working on the house while the government recharges all the birds. ? When I get to an area where I live that has all bars, I'll post the speeds on 5G and 4G for you. My buddy just switched from Sprint to AT&T (iPhone 11 Pro Max) and he hit 186Mbps. Irrelevant but just still BS.
We are just changing the protocol using existing radio bands. Near 200 Mbps is the speed of my Comcast WAN. Outside very large single file downloads what would you need higher for? Not scrapin' just curious.
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Having high download/upload speeds are nice especially if you stream games with your phone like I do. Regularly use Xbox Game Preview, GeForce NOW, and Stadia. Although I wish Google weren't such suckas and let you stream over LTE but hey, what can you do?
Here are my speeds taken directly after the 10.5.8 IN55CB update. 4G LTE, 5G, and WiFi.
Tmo speeds are abysmal in Dallas fort worth of anyone is wondering .
I'm talking much slower than lte, seriously around 15 to 27mbps if you're lucky. I only upgraded from the 7t for 5g and it's a joke.
Just FYI tmo says that's normal and to be expected too... ??
No I'm at anywhere from 45 to 70 mbs download and up to 40mbs up even with a vpn I. Seattle
Decent speed down at the Des Moines/Federal Way border. On 5G.
You guys are killing me! I'm an hour east of Atlanta. My LTE reads 16Mpbs and my 5g reads 31Mpbs. So it's definitely faster but waaaay behind you guys.
Great speed on 5 G. TMO added two more bands and it is blazing fast.
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Decent speed down at the Des Moines/Federal Way border. On 5G.
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This is what I get on 5G with my OnePlus 8 on T-Mobile
Download MIUI hidden settings activity launcher, and look for radio band mode. It lists all the bands. I did not try the toggles or anything as this is my work phone, but figured I'd share for some that need better service.
Thank you for sharing this. Is there anyone on here that is willing to test this? I was in doubt between the 12s Ultra and the ZTE Axon 40 Ultra. Went for the Axon, but as you can read elsewhere in this forum, that didn't end well.
One of the things that was holding me back on the 12s Ultra, was the lack of Band 20. So if that can be fixed that would help me a lot.
Any Dutch in here that can say something about the effect on service in the Netherlands without the Band 20?
Any info is appreciated, thnx!
Tried it, but to my knowledge it didn't have any effect. At least on Vodafone it didn't. The band support, it's processor related and not software related.
3G support is turned off in NL. So the areas where you don't have 4G (or 5G), you would be getting edge. It's extreme slow to the point that you'll be clawing out your eyes. The districts where I regularly visit are Friesland, Groningen, Drenthe and Overijssel. So the other ones I don't have any knowledge. What I do is search for a free wifi or connect to the KPN or Ziggo hotspots. Overall not a very big problem or annoyance, but something to remember and consider if you live in the Netherlands.
Taghdir6 said:
Tried it, but to my knowledge it didn't have any effect. At least on Vodafone it didn't. The band support, it's processor related and not software related.
3G support is turned off in NL. So the areas where you don't have 4G (or 5G), you would be getting edge. It's extreme slow to the point that you'll be clawing out your eyes. The districts where I regularly visit are Friesland, Groningen, Drenthe and Overijssel. So the other ones I don't have any knowledge. What I do is search for a free wifi or connect to the KPN or Ziggo hotspots. Overall not a very big problem or annoyance, but something to remember and consider if you live in the Netherlands.
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Hi Taghdir6,
Thank you for trying and the extra info. Very useful for me.
If you would determine the percentage of the time you have network issues, what would be your estimation? Do you have indoor issues?
So if I understand correctly, if there isn't 4g coverage on a different band, it switches to band 20 which most of the time is the only band available in the more rural parts? Since the 12s Ultra doesn't support this, only edge is available outside de Randstad? 3g isn't available as well?
Sorry for being such a noob on this matter and thank you! Any reply is appreciated.
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Hi Taghdir6,
Thank you for trying and the extra info. Very useful for me.
If you would determine the percentage of the time you have network issues, what would be your estimation? Do you have indoor issues?
So if I understand correctly, if there isn't 4g coverage on a different band, it switches to band 20 which most of the time is the only band available in the more rural parts? Since the 12s Ultra doesn't support this, only edge is available outside de Randstad? 3g isn't available as well?
Sorry for being such a noob on this matter and thank you! Any reply is appreciated.
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I didn't experience any network issues related to reception, but only internet speed. If I'm not mistaken t-mobile is the only provider that hasn't turned 3G support off yet. They will eventually. The other providers don't support 3G anymore. So you're right if you're in an area where there is no support for the frequency, then you will be on edge. In my experience it's not very often. In my case I still have B1, 3 and 7 for 4G support. I still get 4g most of the time, but I did experience a couple of times.that I needed to search something on the internet and I was on edge. So the speed was very very slow. The other times I had 4g so the speed was great.
No indoor issues by the way. Downstairs it's edge most of the times and upstairs it's 4G. Very strange but it's true.
Thnx for the info, again; really appreciate it! One sim will be T-Mobile, one will be KPN. So I think I will be fine most of the time. I think I will go for it. You helped a lot