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Hi.
I am running RR MM on my OPO and it's great!
I was offered the OP2 for a good price, but I am not even sure if it's worth the upgrade.
It seems the 1 has a strong dev community as well and my RR rom is stable and smooth.
Anyone can comment on this?
Thanks.
if a fingerprint sensor and a slightly higher processor is important to u it is
keep in mind if u planning on using NFC then no
I had thought about it many times, but i just don't see any huge benefit yet, but if u can sell ur OPO at around the same cost as what it is being offered to u so u can get pretty much an even exchange it also may be worth it
Stick with the OPO. I purchased the opt after it got release and regretting the move since then. Finger print scanner works sometime . Battery life is terrible.
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Stay on Op1.
This device will never die since the community is alive.
Great battery life and a great community behind, this is what make a normal phone a good phone
Stay on OPO. The OPT has its cores set at a hex-core config, so you will never get full power, and I think it shuts off the A57 cluster at 37 C, so you can never game with optimal power. This can be fixed with custom roms/kernels, but then you'll lose functionality of the fingerprint sensor. Plus no NFC.
WangGang said:
Stay on OPO. The OPT has its cores set at a hex-core config, so you will never get full power, and I think it shuts off the A57 cluster at 37 C, so you can never game with optimal power. This can be fixed with custom roms/kernels, but then you'll lose functionality of the fingerprint sensor. Plus no NFC.
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Thanks. Rooting/ROMing the OP2 makes the fingerprint sensor non-functional?
benyben123 said:
Thanks. Rooting/ROMing the OP2 makes the fingerprint sensor non-functional?
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Custom Lollipop roms don't have the fingerprint software. They do in Marshmallow however. (Not sure if there are MM roms yet for OPT).
The OPT has a MUCH better camera, especially in low light situations. And this is after trying out custom roms and the snapdragon camera. Also, the fingerprint reader is nice.
But the OPO roms are much more mature (like Sultan's, which are fab), and the OPT's processor isnt really much of an upgrade. I suggest waiting for the oneplus three, which should come with the 820, a much better processor (...we hope).
Nope to OP2. Considering the state of official and custom ROMs, the OPO is worth selling though.
benyben123 said:
Thanks. Rooting/ROMing the OP2 makes the fingerprint sensor non-functional?
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I think code for fingerprint sensor api is not open source. That's why we have less number of ROMs (maybe 0) with working fingerprint sensor. In a blog post, OnePlus said that they will use Google's fingerprint API which will be easy for devs. I think you should stick to OnePlus One as of now.
so what would be considered an upgrade?
i like switching, but not sure if there are good options
benyben123 said:
so what would be considered an upgrade?
i like switching, but not sure if there are good options
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That depends on what you like in a phone. If you're looking for a phone with a strong dev community, the 6P is obviously the way to go. If it's a cheap high-end phone, the Moto X Style might be a good fit. But, at least for me, the OPO still is a phone I wouldn't switch from just yet. The battery life is, in my opinion, still unmatched by current flagships.
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That depends on what you like in a phone. If you're looking for a phone with a strong dev community, the 6P is obviously the way to go. If it's a cheap high-end phone, the Moto X Style might be a good fit. But, at least for me, the OPO still is a phone I wouldn't switch from just yet. The battery life is, in my opinion, still unmatched by current flagships.
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Battery is indeed crazy. RR rom 6.0.1.
Even though they have better hardware and price cut, the software support is horrible. They will leave you behind when new phone get released and then you will be searching in this forum for custom ROMs with latest android version, like what I'm doing now.
I, like most of you, was waiting impatiently for this device for the past few weeks. I was given a retail model on Thursday early and wanted to let my thoughts after 48 hours.
I have to say I haven't been this disappointed in a phone in a while. While the phone is a looker, fundamentals are quite lacking.
Battery life - Same as the S7 and that's not a good thing. Has the same inconsistent issues of quick drains while running idle. As an example, was working on my house yesterday for roughly 4 hours and left the phone down with out being touched. Left it at 90% and came back at 74%. Again no usage. I have 3 other Android phones with more apps running and this doesn't happen except on Samsung. They will never change in this regard. Every year I have hope and get sucked into buying one. Same results.
Fingerprint sensor- I was one of the people that thought all the complaining was unwarranted about the fingerprint sensor placement. I thought this is just an issue for certain people with finger dexterity issues or just looking for something to complain about. Boy was I wrong. It's actually worse! It works maybe75% of the time and that is only using my right hand. Forget about the left hand.. way too awkward and difficult to do with one hand. At first, I thought no biggie, I'll just use face scanning or supplement with Iris scanning. Face scanning again is hit and miss and forget about Iris scanning if you are anywhere outside of bright light. I had the note 7 and that seemed to work a ton better. Maybe a software fix coming? Back to the fingerprint issue.. Samsung Pay doesn't even come preloaded on the phone! Why?!?! Because the NFC chip is on back so have fun using the sensor and holding it to a pay device. I was perplexed how this was a main selling point with the s and note series of last year and how it couldn't be preloaded. Hell it is on the gear S3. I used it 3 times yesterday at 3 different stores. I had to hold the phone upside down and the back facing the terminal. Picture that for a second... Holding your finger on a sensor which is located on the back and also having to have the back of the phone facing the CC reader at the same time. It's unreal. It's absolutely crazy that they threw this phone with the sensor placement at last minute and gathered...Oh yeah how are they going to use Pay? Ah just don't preload it and we won't get so many complaints. If you think I'm full of it.. go try it.
As mentioned with unlocking with the fingerprint, the new home button is virtually useless. I am trying to understand why they are trying to reinvent the wheel and not just use the tried and true method that every Android manufacturer has used for the past few years. It takes a ridiculous amount of time to unlock this phone. Too many steps.touch the side button or home button, wait for face unlock to work and if it doesn't then do finger gynastics with the fingerprint sensor. Seriously I wind up just using pattern after both fail. I use my V20 as my DD and it's 100% unlocking with the fingerprint on one touch Everytime. What the [email protected]#&$ were you thinking Samsung?
Audio - I love music and media and I am a wanna be audiophile. The headphone jack output and sound is no better than the S7. Lower output than most phones and music has a tight soundstage. Sound is tinny and missing elements you would hear on other high end phones. The Bluetooth audio is actually better but that was the same as the S7. It's nothing to write home about to be honest. I knew it wasn't going to be V20 quality but I was hoping for better with the akg tuning and Harmon partnership.Maybe those changes will come to the note 8?
Not all is bad with the phone, I love the screen and how I missed wireless charging! But there are fundamental ergonomic design issues that make this phone clumsy to use day to day. It's like you have to think to unlock it instead of it being second nature. People will see what I mean when they get their device. It feels like Samsung rushed again to market a product. I am praying that the note 8 is the next big thing.
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It feels like Samsung rushed again to market a product.
I am praying that the note 8 is the next big thing.
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How is this "rushed"? Samsung has had a full year since last year's Galaxy S7, and all the manufacturers have a team actually start working on the NEXT release before they launch the current one. So, OVER a year.
Are you suggesting Samsung do what Apple does? Release a new phone EVERY TWO YEARS? And then the ones in between are just to fix what they screwed up? iPhone 4S = iPhone 4 antenna fiasco fix.
And as for "big", the Notes are TOO big. I will never own a Note phablet.
Just giving my take. This phone is definitely not ready for prime time in my opinion. RAM management is also an issue I forgot to list but that has always been an issue with Samsung so nothing to see here on that. Knew that coming in. Just disappointed they didn't do much to address. Again these are my opinions.
Camera is definitely improved though... Sweet shots I'm getting.
Samsung pay didn't come preloaded in my Verizon S7 Edge, I had to download it. But I do see what you're saying about paying with your fingerprint. But I, myself, have the gear S3 so feel there's no need to use Samsung pay on my phone since the watch does it.
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Just giving my take. This phone is definitely not ready for prime time in my opinion. RAM management is also an issue I forgot to list but that has always been an issue with Samsung so nothing to see here on that. Knew that coming in. Just disappointed they didn't do much to address. Again these are my opinions.
Camera is definitely improved though... Sweet shots I'm getting.
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It may not be ready for Prime Time, but they had plenty of time. Any design failures is on Samsung -- their skill set, their design/manufacturing expertise.
Whereas "rushed" is like Google's 2016 Pixel with the HUGE bezels because Huawei turned them down for a Google Pixel phone with no manufacturer branding, and they had to go to HTC and use a re-purposed frame HTC already had -- and they only had 9 months to design/test/release a phone. THAT is "rushed". They couldn't even make it waterproof like they wanted because they ran out of time.
The Pixel and Pixel XL aren’t waterproof because Google ‘ran out of time’
http://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-xl-waterproof-724120/
According to Pierce, when he asked Google why its phone isn’t waterproof, its response was, rather simply: “We ran out of time”.
Pierce states that the development cycle for the smartphone was uncharacteristically short, reportedly “nine months and a week” from design to launch, as Google abandoned its original plans for the phone at the end of 2015.
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Samsung has no such excuses, unless you are just saying they are incompetent.
I completely agree hence why I sold my pixel months ago. I'm not saying other manufacturers aren't rushing either. Just making a note that Samsung is as well. Anyway.. my take as someone who has the phone already. Hoping software fixes some of the concerns. But that fingerprint sensor and Samsung pay is there to stay.
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Whereas "rushed" is like Google's 2016 Pixel with the HUGE bezels because Huawei turned them down for a Google Pixel phone with no manufacturer branding, and they had to go to HTC and use a re-purposed frame HTC already had
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Come on its a brand new design... http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8346&idPhone2=8297
Any phone coming out after the s8 and g6 with ugly ass bezels will be dead on arrival, lets see if htc has enough time to shrink those bezel's.
Re: Samsung pay, there are more than a few phones with rear fingerprint scanners and NFC chips that have been out for some time. I've never found this an issue nor have I heard complaints like this. As of right now the technology you're longing for (a front facing under the screen fingerprint scanner, since that's the only feasible alternative with the infinity display) simply hasn't been released. Unfortunately, the reality is it's these shortcomings that are debatably left out (intentionally?) to keep interest in the next iteration and keep overhead down. Hence why we never get the perfect smart phone. I'll you know when I get the device but I assume it's no different then the others: shiny, new, with some improvements, likely the best phone out, but still short of the perfect phone. (Never get too high of expectations, these companies are here to be profitable) I had the G6 all of 2 days before I was left unimpressed, hopefully that's not the case with the S8.
Oh well take my money. Thanks for the write up!
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Come on its a brand new design... http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8346&idPhone2=8297
Any phone coming out after the s8 and g6 with ugly ass bezels will be dead on arrival, lets see if htc has enough time to shrink those bezel's.
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HTC is screwed if the renditions/leaks are accurate. Still has same general design and big ol bezels
sillyphillie said:
I, like most of you, was waiting impatiently for this device for the past few weeks. I was given a retail model on Thursday early and wanted to let my thoughts after 48 hours.
I have to say I haven't been this disappointed in a phone in a while. While the phone is a looker, fundamentals are quite lacking.
Battery life - Same as the S7 and that's not a good thing. Has the same inconsistent issues of quick drains while running idle. As an example, was working on my house yesterday for roughly 4 hours and left the phone down with out being touched. Left it at 90% and came back at 74%. Again no usage. I have 3 other Android phones with more apps running and this doesn't happen except on Samsung. They will never change in this regard. Every year I have hope and get sucked into buying one. Same results.
Fingerprint sensor- I was one of the people that thought all the complaining was unwarranted about the fingerprint sensor placement. I thought this is just an issue for certain people with finger dexterity issues or just looking for something to complain about. Boy was I wrong. It's actually worse! It works maybe75% of the time and that is only using my right hand. Forget about the left hand.. way too awkward and difficult to do with one hand. At first, I thought no biggie, I'll just use face scanning or supplement with Iris scanning. Face scanning again is hit and miss and forget about Iris scanning if you are anywhere outside of bright light. I had the note 7 and that seemed to work a ton better. Maybe a software fix coming? Back to the fingerprint issue.. Samsung Pay doesn't even come preloaded on the phone! Why?!?! Because the NFC chip is on back so have fun using the sensor and holding it to a pay device. I was perplexed how this was a main selling point with the s and note series of last year and how it couldn't be preloaded. Hell it is on the gear S3. I used it 3 times yesterday at 3 different stores. I had to hold the phone upside down and the back facing the terminal. Picture that for a second... Holding your finger on a sensor which is located on the back and also having to have the back of the phone facing the CC reader at the same time. It's unreal. It's absolutely crazy that they threw this phone with the sensor placement at last minute and gathered...Oh yeah how are they going to use Pay? Ah just don't preload it and we won't get so many complaints. If you think I'm full of it.. go try it.
As mentioned with unlocking with the fingerprint, the new home button is virtually useless. I am trying to understand why they are trying to reinvent the wheel and not just use the tried and true method that every Android manufacturer has used for the past few years. It takes a ridiculous amount of time to unlock this phone. Too many steps.touch the side button or home button, wait for face unlock to work and if it doesn't then do finger gynastics with the fingerprint sensor. Seriously I wind up just using pattern after both fail. I use my V20 as my DD and it's 100% unlocking with the fingerprint on one touch Everytime. What the [email protected]#&$ were you thinking Samsung?
Audio - I love music and media and I am a wanna be audiophile. The headphone jack output and sound is no better than the S7. Lower output than most phones and music has a tight soundstage. Sound is tinny and missing elements you would hear on other high end phones. The Bluetooth audio is actually better but that was the same as the S7. It's nothing to write home about to be honest. I knew it wasn't going to be V20 quality but I was hoping for better with the akg tuning and Harmon partnership.Maybe those changes will come to the note 8?
Not all is bad with the phone, I love the screen and how I missed wireless charging! But there are fundamental ergonomic design issues that make this phone clumsy to use day to day. It's like you have to think to unlock it instead of it being second nature. People will see what I mean when they get their device. It feels like Samsung rushed again to market a product. I am praying that the note 8 is the next big thing.
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I have never used a fingerprint scanner or whatever on a phone, just good old passcode/pattern. It blows my mind people getting all uppity (no you, people in general) over a freaking unlock method to their phone. It's like a new Porsche/Mercedes and instead of talking about its performance people get all hung up on the palm sensor to unlock the door all the while they have the keys. Phones are all about the screen and apps, etc. Who gives a hoot about a stupid fingerprint sensor.
i plan to use samsung pay with Pin instead of fingerprint since it' on the back
Should we cancel our pre-orders then? I'd be more than happy to stick with my Note 4 than pay £55 a month for the next 2 years.
The funny thing about this bezel less design is I really think it's more beauty than function. Maybe it's the bezel less combined with the edge display but I feel less secure with this phone. I have a gs7 and lgv20 I keep referencing back to and when you are out and about the flat display lends to more secure in the hand feel. Maybe even more comfort.
Every year we hear how awesome a phone is from MWC through the first round of reviews. I'm really wanting to know what the consensus will be on this phone. The LG G6 was a darling when announced now the shine has come way off and people are finding out the size and feel are not what's it's cracked up to be. I'm going to give this phone more time and hope it grows on me.
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Should we cancel our pre-orders then? I'd be more than happy to stick with my Note 4 than pay £55 a month for the next 2 years.
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everyone's got a different opinion... i am still happy to proceed with my s8 plus, and keep in mind... these folks complainin abt battery life are the US models running SD... and we've got exynos
Is Exnos a more thrifty battery chip?
I will get the EU model in any case.
I've either cognitively dissonated myself into loving this phone, or it is really quite good. The official camera fix did some good and leaves open the good possibility that further refining will yield a great result, or I'll stick with the progress being made on the GCam port and use the native app for great monochrome shots (I love the B&W sensor and it is EXCELLENT). That said, no cases... I guess no problem - I ordered some SquareTrade insurance coverage today - if it drops or dies, they'll replace it for a hundred beans - I can handle that kind of coverage...
I'm not seeing the same quality defects others are reporting with their handsets (light bleed, TMOB signal issues, etc.) so either I got a keeper or others are being overly sensitive (nothing personal guys).
I asked for and will likely receive a return package, but I think I'll be sending it back empty. Sorry for the trouble Essential, but you are in my daily carry category now - my S8+ will stay ready for outdoor action as needed (water resistance, etc).
The aesthetics are what has done it for me... Maybe you feel the same? The feeling I get holding and using the Essential do indeed remind me of the first day with the OG iPhone - only ten years better. Hell - I still have some great pics I took with that lousy 2MP, fixed focus, no flash shooter from 2007 on my drive.
Anyway, just one man's changed opinion. If it grew on you too, please post your thoughts. I'm interested to know how many others have now caved.
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I've either cognitively dissonated myself into loving this phone, or it is really quite good. The official camera fix did some good and leaves open the good possibility that further refining will yield a great result, or I'll stick with the progress being made on the GCam port and use the native app for great monochrome shots (I love the B&W sensor and it is EXCELLENT). That said, no cases... I guess no problem - I ordered some SquareTrade insurance coverage today - if it drops or dies, they'll replace it for a hundred beans - I can handle that kind of coverage...
I'm not seeing the same quality defects others are reporting with their handsets (light bleed, TMOB signal issues, etc.) so either I got a keeper or others are being overly sensitive (nothing personal guys).
I asked for and will likely receive a return package, but I think I'll be sending it back empty. Sorry for the trouble Essential, but you are in my daily carry category now - my S8+ will stay ready for outdoor action as needed (water resistance, etc).
The aesthetics are what has done it for me... Maybe you feel the same? The feeling I get holding and using the Essential do indeed remind me of the first day with the OG iPhone - only ten years better. Hell - I still have some great pics I took with that lousy 2MP, fixed focus, no flash shooter from 2007 on my drive.
Anyway, just one man's changed opinion. If it grew on you too, please post your thoughts. I'm interested to know how many others have now caved.
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I really want to like it, I'm trying real hard.
The performance sucks and is not faster than a Moto Z with a Snapdragon 821.
This phone does some really aggressive thermal throttling.
This bothers me.
I really want to like it.
I kind of came to the same conclusion the other day. Software can always be improved with updates, and there's not another phone out there built with better materials. It looks, feels, and is, an upscale phone.
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I really want to like it, I'm trying real hard.
The performance sucks and is not faster than a Moto Z with a Snapdragon 821.
This phone does some really aggressive thermal throttling.
This bothers me.
I really want to like it.
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I'm interested to hear what you know about thermal throttling. I'm a power user and I play Royale like an idiot and I haven't even felt it get warm, nor do I see the incredible battery drain I see with other devices I've played on in the past (the Pixel XL was the worst for that power drain). Do you have CPUZ installed on it and can get some screenies of the throttling b/c of overheat conditions?
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I'm interested to hear what you know about thermal throttling. I'm a power user and I play Royale like an idiot and I haven't even felt it get warm, nor do I see the incredible battery drain I see with other devices I've played on in the past (the Pixel XL was the worst for that power drain). Do you have CPUZ installed on it and can get some screenies of the throttling b/c of overheat conditions?
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I don't see/feel the phone get hot. That's the point, before it even gets hot the CPU gets throttled.
If I artificially cool the device or I'm in a cold environment; I can run Antutu and get close to the Qualcomm numbers for their reference platform in the 178k range. I can do that only in a cold environment. If the device is in a warm room the performance drops to 160k or so. If the room is hot or if I try to run again the performance can drop to 150k. I have seen the results drop to below 120k.
Geek bench scores are somewhat better but not great.
1900 single core and 6000 multicore.
The renderscript score is about 8000. Which puts in 33% behind an iPhone 7.
The software grew on me as more mods and ADB tweaks come out...but every time I decide to keep it and slap a skin of the back I find new scratches. Now I even have a scratch on the finish on the titanium. No clue where any of these came from. I haven't had a scratch on a phone in years... I upgrade every few months and always sell my phones mint on Swappa. I've had this a week and it's already scratched to ****. I love the look and feel and I'm happy with the software now but man..it's getting destroyed.
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The software grew on me as more mods and ADB tweaks come out...but every time I decide to keep it and slap a skin of the back I find new scratches. Now I even have a scratch on the finish on the titanium. No clue where any of these came from. I haven't had a scratch on a phone in years... I upgrade every few months and always sell my phones mint on Swappa. I've had this a week and it's already scratched to ****. I love the look and feel and I'm happy with the software now but man..it's getting destroyed.
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Interesting. Mine still looks like it just came out of the box, and it even took a 4 foot tumble to my bathroom floor the other day.
So I hope the new update improves performance.
Right now if the phone gets to an internal temp of 44C it will throttle to less than half the maximum frequency.
This puts the performance, when warm, behind and LG G4, Samsung Galaxy S6 and my old Nexus 6P.
Not happy.
I'm battling the decision now. I'm still in that 15 day return window, and like others am trying really hard to want to like this device.
Love the display. Don't mind that it's not AMOLED - I still get 5-6 hours SoT with moderate-heavy internet/call/text on wifi w/bt connected. No light bleed issues or lifting of panels for me, everything seems in order there.
There are some problems with the software that make me wonder if the problems I have are hardware or software. The micro-stuttering during scrolling (only while touching the screen during scrolling) could be a hardware problem, could be throttling, or could be OS optimization for this device in general. It's smooth as butter as long as I flick-scroll. Even if I slow finger-scroll vs slow flick-scroll the difference is noticeable, goes from stutter to butter. Finger-on-screen lag is like that of a bloated EVO3D trying to flip homescreens.
Then there are the definite software glitches that are present even after a full wipe of the phone (I really wish you could wipe the cache partition on this thing). This includes the occasional 10 second freeze while scrolling, the microstutters mentioned above, having to press back twice when in a conversation in the default messaging app, random screen presses when not touching the screen, regularly having to tap the screen repeatedly to get response from buttons.
And then there's the support - it takes a very long time to get response. I realize they are busy and trying to be responsive, and I am really trying to support this new company... One of the biggest problems I have is for solely existing as a consumer communications device manufacturer, they have some terrible consumer communication processes happening (or complete lack thereof). All I really want to know is that they are aware of and are working on the specific issues. Maybe I have control issues, but the dark is not a friendly place to be with 700 bucks on the line!!
I'm going to leave myself undecided for a few days and see where things go. If I don't see some kind of a software update addressing many of the issues some of us are experiencing I may have to reconsider... Despite all of the short-comings the new company has had as a baby, it's a beautiful baby. Let's just hope it learns fast I'm really hoping the screen issues I'm having are software related, but without confirmation from the company I can't say that I have high confidence right now. I love the feel and design of the device itself, though! *torn*
I am really trying hard to like this device. In terms of overall feel it's immaculate. They did very well on the design of the the phone. My issues come with software and future development. Right now there's clear software bugs and other optimization that needs to be done. If they can work on some of those things the experience on this phone would improve tenfold. Also once they get the source code and kernel out then we can start seeing more Community Development. We could also get things such as custom recovery and root. I'm hoping that in the coming weeks this phone and the community support will improve. I think I'll keep my device for while to see if that happens if not I may be lookin at a Pixel 2.
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I am really trying hard to like this device. In terms of overall feel it's immaculate. They did very well on the design of the the phone. My issues come with software and future development. Right now there's clear software bugs and other optimization that needs to be done. If they can work on some of those things the experience on this phone would improve tenfold. Also once they get the source code and kernel out then we can start seeing more Community Development. We could also get things such as custom recovery and root. I'm hoping that in the coming weeks this phone and the community support will improve. I think I'll keep my device for while to see if that happens if not I may be lookin at a Pixel 2.
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There isn't a massive amount of development on the pixel in relation to other Nexus devices likely due to the A/B partitions so I'm dubious on the pixel 2 at the moment
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Interesting. Mine still looks like it just came out of the box, and it even took a 4 foot tumble to my bathroom floor the other day.
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Can the QC really be that hit and miss? I have zero scratches as well on front or back.
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Can the QC really be that hit and miss? I have zero scratches as well on front or back.
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Same here. The one thing I absolutely love is the build quality. It looks exactly as the day it arrived.
Mine looks like the first day. I'm very impressed with the build quality.
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No issues with mine fr a build standpoint. Fell a few times and no scratches. I'm using a glass screen protector even though there is a halo. Rather that scratches than the screen. The update that came out today is probably the software the phone should have shipped with initially... but we were all in a rush to get it. I'm keeping this device for sure! I also like confusing the heck out of ppl... I'm running the Arrow Launcher, blackberry keyboard and I use the iPhone sms sound for text notifications..
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My only complaint really is I think they went too small. Most smarts phones are a little larger.
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My only complaint really is I think they went too small. Most smarts phones are a little larger.
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I think it's refreshing. I mean I love big phones, haven't used a small sized phone in years, but after using this phone for several days, I love how reasonably compact it is with this screen size. I should rephrase, I love big screen size, not necessarily big form factor. So to have this screen size packed in a smaller form, I think it's awesome.
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My only complaint really is I think they went too small. Most smarts phones are a little larger.
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The "small" form factor with big screen is the the biggest reason this phone came into my radar
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The "small" form factor with big screen is the the biggest reason this phone came into my radar
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Same with me and many others. The big screen in compact size is among the major pros for buying this mobile. Besides that, I was also attracted to the clean design/material used and the pin port for 360 camera and other gadgets.
But I'm still waiting (impatiently) for how the Huawei Mate 10 pro turns out to be before I buy the essential phone. Hoping the Mate 10 pro is as compact and well built as well, combined with supposedly beast new Kirin 970 and improved dual camera, and maybe some new features like AI, Graphene battery, 3D Face recognition (all already introduced on Huawei's Honor magic). It would be the only contender to essential phone on my list. If Mate 10 pro disappoints then by that time Essential phone would be ready to ship out with 360 camera and charging dock in one go.
I have really grown to like this device. I have been using as my DD since the update, no significant issues and certainly no scratches or signs of wear. The size of the device is a key factor for me, I love the form factor.
Okay guys am a bit torn. I've an LG V30+ and am thinking of switching to the Op6. I mainly use the cell for surfing the net and an occasional casual gameplay. Listening to music is awesome in the V30 but the camera leaves something to be desired. The output is bland.
And LGs update sucks. Still stuck in 7.1.2
Should I jump the gun?
achyut said:
Okay guys am a bit torn. I've an LG V30+ and am thinking of switching to the Op6. I mainly use the cell for surfing the net and an occasional casual gameplay. Listening to music is awesome in the V30 but the camera leaves something to be desired. The output is bland.
And LGs update sucks. Still stuck in 7.1.2
Should I jump the gun?
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Sure, sounds like you want this. I'd just sell the v30+ on Swappa and use that money to pay off most of the op6.
Done. Switched.
Lol
I want to switch to lg v30+
I had lg v30+ weeks back. Returned it and bought OnePlus 6. For the reasons like stock OS,6gig ram and mainly for the developer support op6 will have like bootloader unlocking, roms. Because the v30+ variant which i bought is officially not supporting bootloader unlocking itself.
While at the same time, i preferred few things in lg over op6.
Design, looks, weight, always on display, hdr display quality, wide angle camera, and also notch less design.
Things i didn't feel change in both are performance, multitasking, battery.
I went from V30 (no plus) to Op6. Very happy with Op6 so far. Last V30 update broke wifi for me, so I agree with poor update statements.
The only thing I miss is that the fingerprint sensor is also the power button. Unit is on and unlocked in one step.
Face unlock is working pretty good, but then again I'm one ugly s.o.b. And easy to recognize :silly:
The V30+ 2as awesome. The looks, the cameras, esp. the sound quality on my Hd600s was mind boggling.
But am a flashaholic and the V30+ didn't even allow unlocking of bootloaders. Still I did some modding like complete full screen with gesture navigation. Naptime for saving battery and got the GCam.
Was a good phone, but I need the liberty of android to truly enjoy Android. If I was to be tied so tightly, I'd rather take an iPhone 8. My whole family is tied to iPhone ecosystem. Am the odd duck who swears by Android. ?
I have a V30+ and put an order for the 6 over the weekend, pretty impulsively, still not entirely convinced it was the right move. Aside from the guilt associated with this being the 5th phone that I'm paying full price or more for (like paying premium to purchase prior to wide availability) in about 2.5 years:
- I don't take pictures often at all so I don't really care about cameras, but when I do, I found wide-angle to be super convenient, so that'll be missed.
- Yes I still have a headphone jack but definitely going to miss the quad DAC.
- Battery life and screen on time on the V30 was by far the best I've ever had. I'll have to see how OP6 holds up, but anything less would be tough to get used to.
- I would've missed wireless charging...except I never used it with the V30 (unlike my previous phones which supported it), because of the battery lasting all day.
- I've read a few complaints about the vibration motor being bad. They were very good in my last couple of phones, so I'm a bit concerned here.
- Always on display, for the time/battery/notification information being constantly available without any user input or action
- 1440P. Honestly I find the quality of the panel to be much more important than the resolution but would've preferred paying a bit more for the extra pixels.
- Waterproofing, although I recently chipped the corner so I don't know if it would still hold up. Definitely not something I'd risk anyway so not much lost there.
But still, considered the following (for all of 10 minutes before buying..):
- The near stock Android. I was pleasantly surprised at my V30's performance and lack of lag even after 6 months of use, considering the UI is on the heavier side. Buuut can't beat Nexus/pixel/op level of fluidity.
- Faster updates. Although I imported my V30 from Korea because I didn't want to wait for North American release, and updates were actually pretty damn fast as a result. I don't see this continuing now that the G7 is out and V35 due out soon.
- 8 GB RAM vs. 6 GB.
- Going from the Mi Mix (which was full of its own issues) to the V30 I really didn't like coming back to the top bezel. While a notch is hardly the ideal solution for me, maybe it could be a decent compromise (really hoping the upcoming Vivo Apex is trash...otherwise I may be in for further trouble)
- Gesture control. Opinions seem to be fairly mixed on this. But I'm already using a 3rd party gesture control app on my V30 with the navbar hidden, so looking forward to using something similar baked into the OS. I don't like Android P's implementation of it (isn't the whole purpose so you can get rid of the navbar and more of the screen can be opened up for other use?) so I'm hoping OP6 will stick to its current implementation or at least provide the choice to keep it when P is rolled out (probably not)
- No always on display, but def like how the ambient display handles incoming notifications.
And I'm pretty sure the entire point of this post was me trying to justify another impulsive purchase lol. But maybe it'll help someone.
Thinking about getting a Mix Fold 2, but having watched reviews, there’s a couple things which make me unsure if I should get it.
Seems like there haven’t been any real changes to the UI since release (hopefully there’ll be some improvements with MIUI 14 official release?), but have there been any patches / improvements to thermal throttling / overheating, and any camera optimization?
Really loving the design, form factor etc. of the Mix Fold 2, but feel like it lacks behind on UI functions, and the general optimization. Or atleast it did in the reviews I’ve seen, but most of them are now 4-5 months old.
Thoughts?
Hello, I have the phone since a few weeks. Started with MIUI13 and have received the update to MIUI14 1 week ago and to be honest, it was a very bad experience. There was really not a since noticable improvement from my opinion. I even worse, there are a few downsides which came along with the update.
I am now disappointed? No. If you really like foldable phones then this one is clearly the best.
The UI is so far okay and you can get around a few things by implementing here and there a workaround
UI is the same as it was at launch and I dont see them changing it any time soon.
I havent had any issues with overheating or throttling to a noticeable point. Its not very hot where I live though...
Camera app has had a few updates iirc so there should be some general improvements but I havent taken comparison images or anything.
As for it lacking behind in features I havent noticed myself missing anything I would want to do. The chinese skin does have a few quirks I dont like though so im just waiting on kernel sources so I can port lineage or something else.
The phone is optimised very well imo. I can easily get 8-9 hours SOT even with all of my changes to run apps in the background and everything runs super smoothly
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Thinking about getting a Mix Fold 2, but having watched reviews, there’s a couple things which make me unsure if I should get it.
Seems like there haven’t been any real changes to the UI since release (hopefully there’ll be some improvements with MIUI 14 official release?), but have there been any patches / improvements to thermal throttling / overheating, and any camera optimization?
Really loving the design, form factor etc. of the Mix Fold 2, but feel like it lacks behind on UI functions, and the general optimization. Or atleast it did in the reviews I’ve seen, but most of them are now 4-5 months old.
Thoughts?
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Where are your concern? What do you expect?
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Where are your concern? What do you expect?
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Hardware wise hands down my favorite foldable. More concerned about software. Seen in a couple reviews that it can get hot enough gaming, for even short amounts of time, to where the app crashes / force quits. Feel like it’s lacking abit camera wise too. Feel like that sensor can do better, just that the software needs optimization, but as Thatsjustlogic says there have been updates, so hopefully it has gotten better since those reviews.
Also feel like pretty much all foldables other than Samsung don’t utilize the foldable functionality that well (lack of horizontal split for example).
Chinese rom worries / worried me too.
Don’t want to spend 1500$ to then have a phone that feels «unfinished» I guess?
Having read through the forums now tho seems like many of my worries can be solved with some modules.
The phone is "finished"
Here and there are "missing" features. For instance I had for years Samsung and Folds as well.
In the Samsung camera app, when you take a selfie, you can raise your hand as a gesture and this will create a screenshot. This is just not there on the Xiaomi phone app.
In general all words pretty stable but yes you will "find" here and there some annoying things but this really depends on your personal behavior. Everybody who have this phone have a small list of this which are not working as expected. And I would say nobody of us a just average phone users, we are power users and we have high expectations. BUT, what is the alternative? Samsung fold 4? For my opinion, this small form factor of the phone is a big boomer. This outer display always fell to narrow and it just does not feel good. So I have unfolded the Samsung for every tiny action I did and this was annoying too.