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[Q] T-Mobile LG Optimus F3 Forum?

Okay, so I know this phone doesn't exactly win the spec war, but it's awesome and would make a fantastic rooted phone. Unfortunately there isn't a forum here on XDA for the device (either because it's too new or there isn't a demand for it)
Do you guys think a forum will be made for this device? It'd be nice to at least have a place to say what root methods DON'T work (I've tried a few)
Thanks for the help, XDA rules!

I second this. I am planning on buying a new phone and after researching numerous phones out there based on my tastes and constraints, I think this phone works very well (another is Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 2). One flaw that I heard is the amount of storage in this phone is around 4gb. Without a way to put apps on an external SD card (which I believe would require a custom ROM), the storage would probably fill up pretty quickly. So it'll be great if XDA opened a forum for this phone.
As a side note if anyone can point to other devices that fit my needs I would be grateful:
- Less than 4.2" screen (preferably 4").
- Android only
I don't have any financial constraints or any favorite companies.
Thanks!

What root method did you find worked? Did you try framaroot? Also have you found any Roms?
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bbradf44 said:
What root method did you find worked? Did you try framaroot? Also have you found any Roms?
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I used Motochopper, worked like a charm. make sure you have the LG Optimus f3 drivers on your computer.(found on LG website)

habitforming said:
I used Motochopper, worked like a charm. make sure you have the LG Optimus f3 drivers on your computer.(found on LG website)
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Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.

richardpwnsner said:
Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.[/QUOT
Anyone find a tethering ap that works?
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wolfu11 said:
richardpwnsner said:
Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.[/QUOT
Anyone find a tethering ap that works?
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Do tethering apps need to be phone specific? I don't have data, but I'll let you know if I come across one.
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Bad news
I have created the recovery tree, and have created a recovery.img for this phone. ok now heres the bad news OUR lg optimus f3 has a stock 3.4 kernel with a locked bootloader. Even worse news is that 3.4 "locking" features a sha5 hash system for its image/partitions (recovery, boot, and bootloader). Even worse news there is no known (or atleast what i know or have heard) way to get around this. The phone will be forever locked until lg updates or allows said lock to be removed. I have flashed the recovery and have had no damage to my device but it just sticks at "unsecure recovery" and does a hard reset (factory restore) every time i try to play with it which is a huge flaw if you ask me.
I have hexedited the bootloader and found that there is indeed "juicy" strings within that may tell to a future unlock these strings being
-Device UnLock!, so Boot Success!!
-oem unlock
-ERROR: Could not do normal boot. Reverting to fastboot mode
Also these strings could just be defualt with all lg bootloaders meaning....there is no hope.
My phone is without a soul and I will never be buy lg again.
If anyone is able to get into fastboot
1. PM ME
2. run : fastboot oem unlock
Again root for this phone works great as long as you dont touch recovery, bootloader, or boot partitions

inyourface09 said:
I have created the recovery tree, and have created a recovery.img for this phone. ok now heres the bad news OUR lg optimus f3 has a stock 3.4 kernel with a locked bootloader. Even worse news is that 3.4 "locking" features a sha5 hash system for its image/partitions (recovery, boot, and bootloader). Even worse news there is no known (or atleast what i know or have heard) way to get around this. The phone will be forever locked until lg updates or allows said lock to be removed. I have flashed the recovery and have had no damage to my device but it just sticks at "unsecure recovery" and does a hard reset (factory restore) every time i try to play with it which is a huge flaw if you ask me.
I have hexedited the bootloader and found that there is indeed "juicy" strings within that may tell to a future unlock these strings being
-Device UnLock!, so Boot Success!!
-oem unlock
-ERROR: Could not do normal boot. Reverting to fastboot mode
Also these strings could just be defualt with all lg bootloaders meaning....there is no hope.
My phone is without a soul and I will never be buy lg again.
If anyone is able to get into fastboot
1. PM ME
2. run : fastboot oem unlock
Again root for this phone works great as long as you dont touch recovery, bootloader, or boot partitions
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Ugh. Thanks for the work. This is bad news indeed. I'll keep poking around and let you know if I find anything.

richardpwnsner said:
Ugh. Thanks for the work. This is bad news indeed. I'll keep poking around and let you know if I find anything.
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Out of curiosity, any chance Loki would work? I'd be willing to give it a go if there's a decent chance—still within the 14 day exchange window .

Will motochopper work on any carrier version of this phone? Thanks!

jjfad said:
Will motochopper work on any carrier version of this phone? Thanks!
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I've seen confirmations on three carriers (can't remember which ones off the top of my head, sorry [edit-well, T-Mobile and Virgin Mobile come to mind now]), so I'd assume the answer is yes. Regardless, I have yet to see anyone complain about adverse affects, so no reason not to try (though, grain of salt—I'm brand new to android).

For anyone that has this, how are the antennas on this phone?
I just ordered one from tmo and am hoping to get better reception at my house than from my Samsung or HTC.
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Steve5400 said:
For anyone that has this, how are the antennas on this phone?
I just ordered one from tmo and am hoping to get better reception at my house than from my Samsung or HTC.
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They seem better and with WIFI calling built in the phone hasn't skipped a beat.

Check my way!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2420178&highlight=rooting+lg+optimus+f3
I failed rooting my phone with Windows system, maybe cause I'm not familiar with the process or I was just to lazy, but it does work if you use motochopper. Try looking it up youtube. You could try my method, it should work on Jellybean 4.1.2!

richardpwnsner said:
Out of curiosity, any chance Loki would work? I'd be willing to give it a go if there's a decent chance—still within the 14 day exchange window .
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BAHAHA me to man i think im down to 10 days. Im trying to get some attention but i need someone who knows little endian, and their way around bootloaders. Id be willing to donate to someone who can help me out, also to support the other 3 variants (if the aboot differs).
I have a recovery created also and a device tree (needs gpio support for kernel).
And to awnser your question, yes loki will work IF i can get the needed values so that when recovery/boot is read into memory that it overwrites the security check feature in aboot. If the wrong values are give you may end up with a brick (very slim chance)

My return window just closed . If it helps, you can pull the open source from LG's website and merge it with the android source. I also discovered an even easier solution: set up the LG Sync application, and select the "upgrade recovery option". Then, when it begins downloading, remove your phone, set Windows (or your relevant OS) to show hidden files and folders, and go the the Program Data folder. There should be something like "PHONEAX" under the LG Electronics folder that will contain the full stock kdz file when the download is complete.
It's really kind of surprising that there's absolutely no dev love out there for the F3. I suppose it's because the phone is entry level, but it's really not that bad but for the storage. I got it as a gift, so no complaints here—of course, if anyone wants to donate a Note or Galaxy gratis, I suppose I'd be willing to switch .

I had a Galaxy S4 from Verizon. I switched to T-Mobile Because believe it or not the network is stronger where I work. Also, there pricing on plans cannot be beat. But, I digress. The Galaxy S4 being a Verizon device never really functioned the way it was supposed to on T-Mobiles network. It was unlocked however was still useless for 4G LTE and while I could do better than edge in some places, those places were few and far between. I started to assess what it is I actually used my phone for these days. I'm not into modding with custom ROMS and kernels anymore and I'm not much of a multi-tasker either so I decided that I did not need the super power device anymore. The specs on this phone are perfect for what I need my phone to do. Its been a long time since I have gone beyond rooting to remove bloat and tether. I agree that the storage on this sucks. I don't understand why there are any devices anymore that come with less than 32gb internal. storage is the cheapest thing that can be added to a device and its not as though it uses much physical space. other than the storage I will say that I am impressed with the quality of this device and I don't know that I would even put this as low as "entry level device." I would say its more of a mid-grade device. I am also happy with the reception on this device and its nice to have a compact phone again that actually fits comfortably in my hand and on my belt.

yutzyscott said:
I had a Galaxy S4 from Verizon. I switched to T-Mobile Because believe it or not the network is stronger where I work. Also, there pricing on plans cannot be beat. But, I digress. The Galaxy S4 being a Verizon device never really functioned the way it was supposed to on T-Mobiles network. It was unlocked however was still useless for 4G LTE and while I could do better than edge in some places, those places were few and far between. I started to assess what it is I actually used my phone for these days. I'm not into modding with custom ROMS and kernels anymore and I'm not much of a multi-tasker either so I decided that I did not need the super power device anymore. The specs on this phone are perfect for what I need my phone to do. Its been a long time since I have gone beyond rooting to remove bloat and tether. I agree that the storage on this sucks. I don't understand why there are any devices anymore that come with less than 32gb internal. storage is the cheapest thing that can be added to a device and its not as though it uses much physical space. other than the storage I will say that I am impressed with the quality of this device and I don't know that I would even put this as low as "entry level device." I would say its more of a mid-grade device. I am also happy with the reception on this device and its nice to have a compact phone again that actually fits comfortably in my hand and on my belt.
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No argument here. I like it well enough, but I'm (1) a closet geek; and (2) a heavy multitasker, so given the option I'd prefer something with more screen space (I just graduated from law school, so I do a lot of reading on the go). As a phone, however, you really couldn't ask for more—the size otherwise pretty much perfect, it's relatively snappy with most applications, and once debloated the stock launcher is pretty good.
That being said, the second I see a safe way to deal with the bootloader pop up, I'm diving in, no question .

Decided to share my home screens.
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Need help unlocking and rooting alcatel onetouch pixi glitz

I bought an alcatel onetouch pixi glitz tracfone. I know it is a terrible cheap phone, but it was all I could afford. I have a T-mobile data plan that I want to use it on. However I have tried 3 different unlock sites and all have given me a message saying it is unable to be unlocked. I read on another forum that sometimes rooting and loading a custom ROM can sometimes unlock it in the process. However, after looking all over the web, I can't even find instructions for SU. Is this phone so crappy yay no one cares or what?

Any luck? Thinking of running out and grabbing one of these as a cheap mp3 player to leave in the car, would love to strip it down. What have you tried? King/Kingo? Vroot? Are those still legit methods?

I haven't really tried anything because with no stock (that I can find) I am a little hesitant to try anything...lol

Dollar General is suppose to have these going on sell for $1.00 on thanksgiving.
Im hoping to snag a few, Can you confirm the rumor that the phone does not allow rotation to landscape?
I wasn't able to find a stock firmware, nothing on alcatel's website except it is mentioned about some sort of hearing aid support.
Couldn't find anything on tracfone's website either except user guide and tutorial, have'nt looked at the guide but I don't expect much useful in it.
If you google "alcatel ftp" a alcatel-lucent ftp server comes up: ftp.alcatel-lucent.com.au
But it does not allow anonymous/public connections.
Try running https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.backessrt.appintegrity&hl=en
on it, this will show certain vulnerabilities, I've used it a few times when scouting out devices that impactor will work on.
But I heard Tracfones are usually pretty buttoned up.
BTW could you run cpu-z and post the screen shots? im really curious what SoC it's running I haven't been able to find out online.
this phone is like a ghost.. it sometimes gets mentioned in the same breath as the pixi 3 (3.5in) but that phone is a bit different.. 3g vs gltiz 4g
and slower clock.
I'd feel a lot better if we could find a stock firmware but I plan on poking mine either way, assuming I get some for a dollar, wont even be the end of the world if I don't get root but who doesn't like that?
Tracfone product/tutorial page: http://tracfone.deviceanywhere.com/tracfone/home.seam?custId=TFALA463BG&locale=en_US

I can confirm that the device doesn't have auto-rotate.
As to the rest of your post, I will download the app you suggested, and let you know what I find. but I probably will wait to try anything till someone smarter than me figures that stuff out so I don't brick myself. ?

Ok these phones are running mediatek mt6582..
Only problem is specout.com & MTK says the 82 should be a quad core.
http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com/l/464/MediaTek-MT6582
http://www.mediatek.com/en/products/mobile-communications/smartphone1/mt6582/
So did CPU-Z get it wrong? Or is alcatel using low bin 6582 that had a bad core?
Do they even do that with SoC's meant for the entry market anyway?
Im pleasantly surprised how snappy it is for the price.
Was able to emulate PS1/N64 nearly perfect with the exception of the occasional sound glitch, This could be due to the weird 48hz refresh on the screen.
Anyway neither CPU-Z nor AIDA64 report any sensor data, so if it has a gravity sensor it's not working in software.. either way this is why it does not auto rotate which is weird cause this is the first android device i've encountered that did'nt have one.
On The Go support is disabled on these phones :/
I tried USB HID gamepad, thumb drive, hub, nothing.. not even power.
Might be able to fix once rooted, or it might be a physical limitation.. like diode on the port preventing the device to give power.. that would really suck.
Another weird thing.. I can't get the phone to accept wifi 64charactor (hex) wifi key's
The field seems limited to 8~63 ASCII passwords... Might make a post somewhere about this as I doubt it's phone specific.
none the less I had to setup a virtual AP with a ASCII pass to get this thing connected.
Not a huge deal for most people as 64hex key's are pretty rare to see used, but I do.
phone reports it self as pixi3-35tf
But It seems the pixi 3 (3.5) uses a mt6572 which has a few variants but I think none over 1.2ghz, so not sure how close the two devices are.
Even though It seems like the pixi 3 and glitz both come from earlier this year feb/march 2015
and share other similar stats / look alike.
Root's tried:
- Towel Root, no go, kernel is too new (july/2015)
- Farmaroot 1.9.3
Roots not tried but wont work
- Impactor won't work either, it's not vulnerable.
I've got ADB working but no easy root access.
You can get the ADB drivers by connecting your computer and then setting the phone to operate as "cd-rom"
so the phone has onboard copy of the win32/64 adb drivers in a self extracting rar file.

anyone find a root method for the A463BG yet? just got 1 from Kroger cause my kid broke my screen on my rooted N900V and i really would like root back

Something else I noticed weird about these phones, Tethering is disabled, despite the fact that you would normally pay per megabyte of data.. nothing is free.
Wifi direct is still intact however.
The phones come with crappy little 550mah chargers, if you put them on 1 or 2 amp chargers the phones will still only charge at 500mah.. so having a better charger wont get you any faster a charge :/
My android 'fu is pretty damn weak but it seems like a pretty buttoned down phone.
EX: I was trying to dump some of the partitions and I couldn't even read them kept getting errors and permission denied.
Hopefully one of the guru's on xda picked up one cheap this last week and will figure it out.
I thought about trying Iroot or Kingoroot which are suppose to have like 90% success rates even on difficult to roots..
but I hear of some shadiness with those 2 roots and frankly am scared to touch them.
Blue's and SRT security scanner show no known vulnerabilities.
Im hoping to get a usable dump and maybe root with MTK tools.
But im trying to read up on the tool since it's new to me, has the potential to brick, and it's my first mediatek deivce.

Hey guys just came across this thread in hopes for a answer, I will say kingoroot does work, BUT if you reboot your phone it removes root access. Could it because super su is having problems on this? I tried superuser instead but no luck.

AndyADD said:
Hey guys just came across this thread in hopes for a answer, I will say kingoroot does work, BUT if you reboot your phone it removes root access. Could it because super su is having problems on this? I tried superuser instead but no luck.
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Did'nt I read that kingoroot normally installs it's own "SU" gateway app and binary?
is the temporary root a functional one? can probably install su/apk by hand if so.
otherwise maybe we could flash something like CWM recovery with teh temporary root and then instal su/apk via zip update from recovery?

Raztan said:
Did'nt I read that kingoroot normally installs it's own "SU" gateway app and binary?
is the temporary root a functional one? can probably install su/apk by hand if so.
otherwise maybe we could flash something like CWM recovery with teh temporary root and then instal su/apk via zip update from recovery?
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When I root the phone, I use root checker and says my phone is rooted, I can launch apps and give them rood access. As soon as I reboot the phone, the root is gone. So, something is keeps removing it.

AndyADD said:
When I root the phone, I use root checker and says my phone is rooted, I can launch apps and give them rood access. As soon as I reboot the phone, the root is gone. So, something is keeps removing it.
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After running kingoroot, have you installed supersu from the playstore and updated the su binary?

kingoroot not working
So I tried kingoroot. I had to use the PC version. It states that it works, but it does not. It's not even a temp root. It installs some binaries and when running certain apps you will get prompted to allow superuser access, but it doesn't do anything.

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So I tried kingoroot. I had to use the PC version. It states that it works, but it does not. It's not even a temp root. It installs some binaries and when running certain apps you will get prompted to allow superuser access, but it doesn't do anything.
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It was hit and miss for me, when I was able to get root on there, I went into terminal typed in su, and prompted for root. From what I have been reading, the reason it removes root after reboot is because the bootloader is locked, afaik there hasn't been a way to unlock the bootloader.

I got vcom drivers installed and was going to try and backup the rom with sp flash tool but I got a error
"BROM Error: S_Auth_Handle_Is_Not_Ready (5000)
This is a secure Base-band chip! Please Secect the authentication file first."
Im guessing you need some sort of a key file just to interact with it?
First time using sp flash tool.
Might be a while before we find a solution was hoping some guru's would have picked one up at DG when they was a dollar on thanksgiving :/
BTW has anyone gotten a bluetooth gamepad or keyboard paired with it? I've got a T3 pad that it can see, says it's paired but then just gets stuck "connecting"
Maybe the phone does not support input profiles? works fine on my galaxy s4
Oh and might wanna make your self a screen protector, it's plastic touch screen is super easy to scratch.
Im planing on making one out of economical (very cheap from china on ebay) ipad screen protector.

durb4him said:
I can confirm that the device doesn't have auto-rotate.
As to the rest of your post, I will download the app you suggested, and let you know what I find. but I probably will wait to try anything till someone smarter than me figures that stuff out so I don't brick myself.
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I purchased the Alcatel Onetouch Pixi Glitz and have been able to get rotation or orientation control by installing "Set Orientation" from the Google Play Store. I haven't used it in all situations but it works with an ereader app.

Jumping into this thread in hopes that someone has made progress towards rooting this phone. Just had 2 show up today from the Dollar General Sale. These would make great mp3 players for working out with (A Note 5 is a little too big). I guess they'll still pressed into service with a microSD card and a missing SIM but like pissinguoff247, I would prefer to strip the whole thing down to just the basics.
I should add that it's been a few years since I've been here.........
I like what the site has morphed into. Very nice.

Updates?
any updates on this? I need to unlock it

I purchased several of these for $4 at Fred Meyer yesterday... The SoC is a MediaTek MT6582, which is rather odd considering it claims to be quad core, yet only 2 cores are available according to cpu-z and DroidSpec. Perhaps they set a maximum of 2 CPU cores in the kernel config...? Attempting to root it using KingoRoot proved unsuccessful and it appears the bootloader is locked as well, preventing reading from the NAND using my generated scatter file. I'm looking for a workaround so that I can create a patched version of CWM for the device, so hopefully I'll be able to dump the internal flash soon. It's also probably futile to ask, but does ANYONE know of a place where I could find a factory image for this thing, or am I O.O.L?

So, after poking around the filesystem a bit, it looks as if I can use CVE-2015-2231 and CVE-2015-2232 in conjunction to gain permanent root perms on the device... I'll see if I can whip up a quick PoC for one of my test devices.

Is the CAT S60 (Snapdragon 617) Rootable?

Morning all,
I have recently received my CAT S60 and I have to say, I am extremely pleased with the device out of the box. It is solid, extremely well built, battery life is amazing and camera quality is far better than the reviews led me to believe. Call quality is also the best I have ever had on any handset.
Unfortunately, I have never before owned a device without root. I have rooted most of my phones + installed a custom rom within a couple of days of opening the box. Sadly, this time round I've bought a less-popular device which is quite new and there is no existing support.
I am able to do most of the root-requiring functions with this phone (flashlight via button from locked, skip tracks with volume etc) using software workarounds, but I am already butting up against things that are pissing me off because I don't have system access, and I am so used to having it.
I've read horror stories about the lockdown function Qualcomm have applied to the 617 chips, but I now see that some phones with this chip have already been rooted (Motorola) so I am wondering, what are the chances that I will see root or a root exploit for this phone in the near future?
I'm not sure that I would sell the device over not being able to gain root, but it is really really annoying me.

I would be interested too. I couldnt even figure out how to set the s60 to downloadmode (If there is such a mode at all) to flash a custom recovery like twrp. Recoverymode is the usual volume up before poweron.

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I would be interested too. I couldnt even figure out how to set the s60 to downloadmode (If there is such a mode at all) to flash a custom recovery like twrp. Recoverymode is the usual volume up before poweron.
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Recovery mode is volume up and power button together for 3 to 4 seconds

There is a switch in developer options to allow bootloader to be unlocked. Maybe this, combined with factory recovery menu will set us free? Flash a modified factory rom with root enabled? The stock ROM is very clean.

bandario said:
There is a switch in developer options to allow bootloader to be unlocked. Maybe this, combined with factory recovery menu will set us free? Flash a modified factory rom with root enabled? The stock ROM is very clean.
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There is an option to unlock bootloader. It's called OEM unlocking

So, flicking this switch should unlock the bootloader???
That gives me a bit of hope for some development on this handset. None of the previous cat phones have seen any real development.

bandario said:
So, flicking this switch should unlock the bootloader???
That gives me a bit of hope for some development on this handset. None of the previous cat phones have seen any real development.
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To be honest flicking that switch does nothing for me. I am unsure how to unlock the bootloader

On S60 bootloader is locked.
No fastboot, but you will be able to select recovery mode.

bump. I'd like to see this phone rooted.

Any progress on this or has anyone tried yet?
My SONY Z1C died on me the other day and I'd need to know if there's at least a chance to root this one.
I'm considering getting the S60 but only if I'm able to root it. An unrooted phone is barely usable to me...
Greetz and thanks in advance,
Unr3aL67

haven't tried rooting mine yet. Not felt the need to yet TBH

Mine is working pretty good without root. Only reason I'd want root honestly is to make backups, and perhaps uninstall a couple apps, but the bloatware is minimal.
Sent from my S60 using Tapatalk

Since the original question was "Is this rootable?" and lately answers have come in the form of "I haven't tried rooting mine" .... which doesn't seem much like an answer at all, to be honest .... I want to join the OP in asking this question. For those of us who have grown accustomed to the freedom and flexibility of having root access to our devices, it would be really nice to know (before making a decision to purchase) whether it is possible to obtain root on the CAT S60.

Does anyone know where to get a zip of the ROM?

After the Arstechnica review this may be my next phone. However, I really require a way to root it so that I can use iptables.
Anyone had any luck?

In response to your query we regret to inform you that we do not offer any assistance or tools to root our devices.
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I tried contacting support about help to root, got the above back. It's a work phone so maybe it's better that I don't mess with it.
If anyone is going to root or make a custom recovery, it'll need to be without any support from the manufacturer. I mostly miss Xposed Framework for adblocking, less frequent notifications and the ability to longpress the back key to enable/disable screen rotation, the ROM itself is 99% "stock" otherwise and I have no complaints on that front.

In response to your query we regret to inform you that we do not offer any assistance or tools to root our devices.
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This is, of course, their right, and buyer beware if you wanted a rootable phone. Still, I can't keep from being annoyed at this attitude; if I'm paying them good money for my devices, I want the freedom to do with it everything that I want, including modifying it and knowingly voiding my warranty, or even breaking it outright, if that's what makes me happy. Especially now that rooting/jailbreaking is a thing. Wanting to keep on controlling and limiting how people are able to use your product after you've sold it to them always sticks in my craw.
I guess I'll be passing on what otherwise looks like a perfect phone for me, unless some shining hero (or heroine) manages to figure out how to root a CAT S60 anyway, despite what the manufacturer might wish.

Tangib1e said:
This is, of course, their right, and buyer beware if you wanted a rootable phone. Still, I can't keep from being annoyed at this attitude; if I'm paying them good money for my devices, I want the freedom to do with it everything that I want, including modifying it and knowingly voiding my warranty, or even breaking it outright, if that's what makes me happy. Especially now that rooting/jailbreaking is a thing. Wanting to keep on controlling and limiting how people are able to use your product after you've sold it to them always sticks in my craw.
I guess I'll be passing on what otherwise looks like a perfect phone for me, unless some shining hero (or heroine) manages to figure out how to root a CAT S60 anyway, despite what the manufacturer might wish.
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It is indeed a great phone, but the camera is sub-par. The focus takes an age compared to my Z5 Compact. I would wait for the second-generation version unless you critically need FLIR as a feature.

I've done a bit of poking around. I suspect that the bootloader could be unlocked with the commands "adb reboot bootloader" followed by "fastboot oem unlock-go".
I'm not going to do that at this point because without a custom ROM to flash there is no point in me voiding my warranty, but I believe it should be possible with USB debugging enabled, and the bootloader confirmed as unlockable.
I think this is how root will arrive on this device: by way of modifying a flashable ROM and flashing it to the device using QFIL as you would any other Qualcomm device.
The tools are all there in front of us, we just need someone with the knowledge to create that modified rom file....at this point I can't even find a factory rom to flash.
Given the recent speed and quality enhancements made available through the stock camera app, I also suspect that doing this will send us backwards to a much ****tier camera as has been the case with many sony handsets in the past.

bandario said:
There is a switch in developer options to allow bootloader to be unlocked. Maybe this, combined with factory recovery menu will set us free? Flash a modified factory rom with root enabled? The stock ROM is very clean.
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There is an option to unlock bootloader. It's called OEM unlocking
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So, flicking this switch should unlock the bootloader???
That gives me a bit of hope for some development on this handset. None of the previous cat phones have seen any real development.
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That switch is available in a lot of devices and does nothing on a lot of them
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Oppo A73 or F5 Youth Root?

Hello Xda People,
So I recently joined xda cause I need help, I recently bought a OPPO A73 in Australia (I live here), but I found out that in some other countries (Mostly Asian countries) it is also known as OPPO F5 Youth. Now, I've had this phone for around 5 months now and putting it straight out there, the software is Sh*t, I have had multiple hick ups and performance drops, it is a joke. I tried looking all over the internet for software updates for this specific phone but sadly there is non and this is the same story with rooting the phone, there is completely nothing about this A73. I have come here to find out if anyone has any idea how to root this phone or at least change the software to stock android (Although that might seem impossible as I don't now what the bootloader is) or even lineage (They do have OPPO as a brand they support but without a model ID its hard to tell if my phone model is supported). If there is way please let me know cause colour OS 3.2 is just slow and utterly disgusting to operate on. If you do need any information about my phone (CPU info, model number, hardware etc) please let me know and I'll post it upon request.
Thanks
Rainer

Same issue here in NZ.
Your model ID will probably be CPH1725 for the A73. To check go to Settings, About Phone.
I've been looking around and there seems to be ways to root but the TWRP recovery has to be ported (which has a few bugs and risks itself), can't seem to find a believable confirmation this method has worked either for the AU/NZ models.

Enclave said:
Same issue here in NZ.
Your model ID will probably be CPH1725 for the A73. To check go to Settings, About Phone.
I've been looking around and there seems to be ways to root but the TWRP recovery has to be ported (which has a few bugs and risks itself), can't seem to find a believable confirmation this method has worked either for the AU/NZ models.
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Until on today 10/09/2022, we don't have any methods to get root access for CPH1725. The device is quite ok but if I cannot get access for it, it is quite useless.

How to upgrade Note 20 Ultra from...Android 5.1. Seriously.

I need help from someone a lot smarter than me. First time poster, but no stranger to rooting. (If I break some protocol, please correct me, I want to be a good citizen.)
Background (can be skipped)
I bought a Note 20 Ultra 5G (model #SM-N9860F) from a guy for a steal of a deal. Now I know why. Before buying we started it up and made a phone call, so I figured most everything else would be fine. Took it home and started messing with it, only to find it laggy and exhibiting other odd behaviors. So I went to check for updates before loading it up with my stuff.
But there was no Update button. I tapped "Software Info" and the next thing I saw made me read it three times. It showed, "Android version: 5.1."
Issues
So...
The phone functions but with lag and issues. SIM is recognized, then unrecognized. SIM cannot be used for data (though wifi is fine).
Not kidding, Kingo Root says it was able to root this Snapdragon phone. Root Checker Basic confirms it as rooted.
Using all the various key combinations posted all over the Internet, I cannot get into Download mode. I've tried for days.
Rebooting into Recovery shows Chinese options. (After many days of messing with it I finally found a way for it to show the English list...happy to share how I got there if anyone cares.)
The phone does connect to a Windows PC successfully via USB and can share files to internal and external memory.
Interestingly, the 500GB of internal memory only shows a fraction of it as available. Wondering if Android 5.1 just can't recognize that much space.
Bottom line
I am unable to get into Download mode. When I do get to where I think Download mode should be, the green Android guy is lying down with the words "No command" underneath. Therefore I can't use Odin, or a paid service, or Samsung Smart Switch...even tried the old Kies, since it has Android 5.1 on it. ALL of them require me to get into Download mode, and it just won't go.
Plan B?: I've heard repeatedly that rooting a Note 20 Ultra is (nearly?) impossible. Since multiple apps on my device insist I successfully rooted it, I was hoping I could use the TWRP app (it's installed) to flash something that could help. But I don't know what that would be, or if it would help at all. TWRP doesn't recognize the .zip, .tar, or any other files I've found and copied to the device. Maybe it's looking for a .img? I'm just not sure, and I don't even know what to look for.
Additional info
I've attached a few screen shots and photos.
I'd be ever so grateful for anyone's guidance. Again,
How can I get into Download mode? Seems that would get me back on the paths I know better.
And/or what can I flash using TWRP on what appears to be a rooted device? Would that even help?
Thank you!

kbtraveler said:
I need help from someone a lot smarter than me. First time poster, but no stranger to rooting. (If I break some protocol, please correct me, I want to be a good citizen.)
Background (can be skipped)
I bought a Note 20 Ultra 5G (model #SM-N9860F) from a guy for a steal of a deal. Now I know why. Before buying we started it up and made a phone call, so I figured most everything else would be fine. Took it home and started messing with it, only to find it laggy and exhibiting other odd behaviors. So I went to check for updates before loading it up with my stuff.
But there was no Update button. I tapped "Software Info" and the next thing I saw made me read it three times. It showed, "Android version: 5.1."
Issues
So...
The phone functions but with lag and issues. SIM is recognized, then unrecognized. SIM cannot be used for data (though wifi is fine).
Not kidding, Kingo Root says it was able to root this Snapdragon phone. Root Checker Basic confirms it as rooted.
Using all the various key combinations posted all over the Internet, I cannot get into Download mode. I've tried for days.
Rebooting into Recovery shows Chinese options. (After many days of messing with it I finally found a way for it to show the English list...happy to share how I got there if anyone cares.)
The phone does connect to a Windows PC successfully via USB and can share files to internal and external memory.
Interestingly, the 500GB of internal memory only shows a fraction of it as available. Wondering if Android 5.1 just can't recognize that much space.
Bottom line
I am unable to get into Download mode. When I do get to where I think Download mode should be, the green Android guy is lying down with the words "No command" underneath. Therefore I can't use Odin, or a paid service, or Samsung Smart Switch...even tried the old Kies, since it has Android 5.1 on it. ALL of them require me to get into Download mode, and it just won't go.
Plan B?: I've heard repeatedly that rooting a Note 20 Ultra is (nearly?) impossible. Since multiple apps on my device insist I successfully rooted it, I was hoping I could use the TWRP app (it's installed) to flash something that could help. But I don't know what that would be, or if it would help at all. TWRP doesn't recognize the .zip, .tar, or any other files I've found and copied to the device. Maybe it's looking for a .img? I'm just not sure, and I don't even know what to look for.
Additional info
I've attached a few screen shots and photos.
I'd be ever so grateful for anyone's guidance. Again,
How can I get into Download mode? Seems that would get me back on the paths I know better.
And/or what can I flash using TWRP on what appears to be a rooted device? Would that even help?
Thank you!
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Sounds like you got what you paid for, it's probably a fake Note20 Ultra.
From what I can tell, the model & build numbers conflict, they're from different models of the Note 20 Ultra, that's why I think it's a fake.
Even the model number doesn't look right, it has a hybrid Chinese/European model number........

KOLIOSIS said:
Sounds like you got what you paid for, it's probably a fake Note20 Ultra.
From what I can tell, the model & build numbers conflict, they're from different models of the Note 20 Ultra, that's why I think it's a fake.
Even the model number doesn't look right, it has a hybrid Chinese/European model number........
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Hi Koliosis,
Yeah, thanks, that has crossed my mind, and that's why I posted those images. If it's fake it's a really good one, but I am aware I could have to chalk that up to experience.
Still, why in the world would a fake have Android 5.1 on it? And it works(-ish)! Isn't that still bizarre? Anything that can be done to force it into Download mode or to flash something with TWRP to at least get an OS from the modern era?
Thanks again...

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Hi Koliosis,
Yeah, thanks, that has crossed my mind, and that's why I posted those images. If it's fake it's a really good one, but I am aware I could have to chalk that up to experience.
Still, why in the world would a fake have Android 5.1 on it? And it works(-ish)! Isn't that still bizarre? Anything that can be done to force it into Download mode or to flash something with TWRP to at least get an OS from the modern era?
Thanks again...
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There should be several threads/tutorials here that show how to flash firmware using Odin (& of course,includes how to get into download mode).
Before you try that out,have you tried to use Samsung's Smart Switch program on your PC?
Given the information you've posted,it's difficult to determine which model you have,which makes matters worse since we don't want to make a bad situation worse.
I'd start with the Samsung Smart Switch, hopefully it'll be able to determine the make of your phone & flashing stock firmware should be a breeze. (If it's indeed a genuine Samsung Device).

KOLIOSIS said:
There should be several threads/tutorials here that show how to flash firmware using Odin (& of course,includes how to get into download mode).
Before you try that out,have you tried to use Samsung's Smart Switch program on your PC?
Given the information you've posted,it's difficult to determine which model you have,which makes matters since we don't want to make a bad situation worse.
I'd start with the Samsung Smart Switch, hopefully it'll be able to determine the make of your phone & flashing stock firmware should be a breeze. (If it's indeed a genuine Samsung Device).
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Yes sir, and that's my problem. I've rooted and changed ROMs on a dozen devices or more in the past (thanks to XDA!!), always using Odin. But this phone simply will not go into Download mode at all. Using every key combination I can find I either wind up with the Chinese recovery selections I mentioned or I get that "No command" screen with the Android lying on its back.
So far I've tried these PC apps:
Odin (several versions)
Smart Switch
Kies
FixPPO (https://android.imyfone.com/android-issues/android-no-command-error/)
DroidKit (https://www.imobie.com/android-system-recovery/fix-android-no-command-error.htm)
Some, like Odin and the paid options, require Download mode - which isn't working for me - so those apps can even tell I've plugged a phone into the USB port.
Just to put it out there, when the phone is booted into the OS and attach it to the PC, Windows recognizes it's connected but Smart Switch does not. That supports your point that it may not be a Samsung device, but I wondered if it could also have something to do with Smart Switch coming after 5.1 was old.
I just wondered if somebody who didn't know what they were doing somehow downgraded this phone to Android 5.1 before I accept it as a full loss. Still hoping...

kbtraveler said:
Yes sir, and that's my problem. I've rooted and changed ROMs on a dozen devices or more in the past (thanks to XDA!!), always using Odin. But this phone simply will not go into Download mode at all. Using every key combination I can find I either wind up with the Chinese recovery selections I mentioned or I get that "No command" screen with the Android lying on its back.
So far I've tried these PC apps:
Odin (several versions)
Smart Switch
Kies
FixPPO (https://android.imyfone.com/android-issues/android-no-command-error/)
DroidKit (https://www.imobie.com/android-system-recovery/fix-android-no-command-error.htm)
Some, like Odin and the paid options, require Download mode - which isn't working for me - so those apps can even tell I've plugged a phone into the USB port.
Just to put it out there, when the phone is booted into the OS and attach it to the PC, Windows recognizes it's connected but Smart Switch does not. That supports your point that it may not be a Samsung device, but I wondered if it could also have something to do with Smart Switch coming after 5.1 was old.
I just wondered if somebody who didn't know what they were doing somehow downgraded this phone to Android 5.1 before I accept it as a full loss. Still hoping...
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Makes since you tried Kies (given the stated Android version).
Can you download/sideload any apps that may help identify the phone (& check for Knox 0x0) such as this one:
Phone INFO+ (SAM) - Apps on Google Play
All-in-one INFO and TOOLS for Samsung devices.
play.google.com
AIDA64 - Apps on Google Play
Hardware and software information utility for Android devices
play.google.com
I wish I had more to offer,it's been years since I've dealt w/a rooted Samsung (Note 5).
Hopefully,others will chime in & offer a solution.
FWIW,Definitely following this thread, I'm interested in how things work out, hopefully for the better.

Aah i made an account just to respond to you
i had an iPhone 7 Jet Black replica with android 5.1 once upon a time, same symptoms- 8GB actual storage but will show 128GB when connected to PC
So here are my two cents: These devices won't be recognized by samsung tools as they are not having motherboards made by samsung. I would recommend that you check actual specs from AIDA64 and you will find out which company has made the motherboard or device, mine had strange MediaTek processor though. And hopefully you will find some chinese websites where people are talking about how to flash firmwares in these phones but i recommend not to do that, i had to lose my device as it got bricked.

Well, that's exactly why I come here. I'd never come across that AIDA64 app, and I've attached screen shots. I've never heard of a "Kirin," but sure enough, it's Huawei. Dang it!
@priteshsolanki, hate to hear about your experience. Thanks for the heads up.
So...does Huawei have a Smart Switch equivalent, lol? And by the way, even if I got this working, would Huawei have enough hardware in this bugger to be able to listen in and send data back to Mother China?? I don't know how that kind of thing works...

kbtraveler said:
Well, that's exactly why I come here. I'd never come across that AIDA64 app, and I've attached screen shots. I've never heard of a "Kirin," but sure enough, it's Huawei. Dang it!
@priteshsolanki, hate to hear about your experience. Thanks for the heads up.
So...does Huawei have a Smart Switch equivalent, lol? And by the way, even if I got this working, would Huawei have enough hardware in this bugger to be able to listen in and send data back to Mother China?? I don't know how that kind of thing works...
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This is strange, i think The AIDA64 app is being fooled here too! To find which company has made it, Its gonna be same experience as finding father of an orphan child which just had permanent memory loss
Its not Kirin, its not huawei.. why?-
So its showing ARMv7 32bit processor, which is definitely not Kirin 1020. because kirin 1020 is a high end processor itself too and uses 5nm technology and Cortex A78 architecture! (While yours is showing stone age 28nm with Cortex A7)
Then there is Platform MT6799. When i look up for that, its again showing totally different company- MediaTek chipset "Helio X30 (MT6799)" which is a deca core processor but what we got here in your details is a Quad core processor.
What we know about your processor:
- its Cortex A7 @1301 MHz and has 28nm manufacturing process
(can't be 5G at any cost)
- From above details it seems like an ancient processor which came out somewhere around 2012, probably thats why its running 5.1.
- The performance is equivalent to high end Android Jellybean device, but definitely not suitable for using in 2022
- The storage and RAM amount shown there are just to fulfill fantasies, dont expect it to be reliable. Its probably a 1 or 2GB Ram with 4 or 8GB storage.
- The software in the phone is really fantastic, i have never thought that a clone can be so perfect that even Apps like AIDA64 will have a hard time finding the facts!
Now coming to the main questions:
1) Can it be upgraded?
90% no based on research i have done in google, this phone is totally non existent for google. for remaining 10% you can expect the rom maker to contact you in DMs after seeing your thread here and offer you an upgrade lol
2) Should you use any file syncing tools with it?
Quick answer: Syncios app is your best bet to sync data between phone and back, but only luck can help you find actual firmware of the device
Slightly long answer: So according to our findings all these data shown in phone settings fake, and syncing apps back in 2011-12 i think its going to give you hard time finding a working one. Android 5.1 in todays time is not something you should be using as daily driver for sure. I suggest you to just treat it like a toy.
About my iPhone 7 back in the day, i bought that one for some 60USD but it was worth it, had some kind of apple music app which never required login but was able to stream any songs for free. so ive used that one out for music only.
I really wish there was a better way to put it, but you can try one last dry hope at needrom website to see if they have any details about this device.

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But there was no Update button. I tapped "Software Info" and the next thing I saw made me read it three times. It showed, "Android version: 5.1."
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Like has been said, sounds like you got a fake, Software info is one of the first things I would have checked before buying, not after you have bought it and then start having issues. Unfortunately you only really have yourself to blame. like is quite often said if the deal "seems to good to be true" there are reasons why.

@samorgs60, you are very right. I've taken many chances like this one on many electronic devices, and to my recollection, this is the first time I got burned. It's kind of like speeding: I don't always obey the speed limit to the letter (number?), so in the past when I got what I believe was an unfair speeding ticket - I was accused of going faster than I was - I dealt with it my accepting it as a balance in the universe for all the times I should have been busted.
@priteshsolanki, what a catch! Wow. That is kinda amazing, and would explain why it has 5.1 on it. I'm actually astonished at the quality of the device in every way, other than the obvious.
So I hate to ask this, but...isn't it true that carriers (I won't mention mine by name here) make offers for value against a new phone if your current phone simply 1) turns on and 2) does not have a cracked screen? That kinda seems to describe what I've got right now. Not interested in misleading on purpose, but what is the likelihood this would qualify as a trade-in? If they took it initially, what's the likelihood of it coming back to haunt me (the carrier contacting me about it not being a Samsung)?
Really appreciate the help, guys!

It sucks that you got a fake. If you paid with PayPal or Credit, I'd file a claim/dispute and try to return for a refund. Carriers usually log the IMEI of trade ins and if it doesn't match the model or is blacklisted in any way, the trade will be denied.