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Hi all,
I have had the official flip case for a few weeks now and to be honest its not suiting me well.
Plus sides first.
Its thin, it looks nice, its decent quality material (coming from a person who does leather-work for a hobby). The fit is very good and the finish is excellent. Screen protection is always a bonus of course.
Down sides.
One handed operation is a pain in the butt. The lid has a mind of its own which makes it a pain especially for car mounts. taking photos can be another pain whilst trying to keep the top cover out of the way, The s-view screen when closed is very limited to say the least, customisation is pretty much none existent.
When waking the phone by opening the cover it sometimes gets confused and will only give me one chance at fingerprint unlocking before timing out?? If i then use the power button to wake it gets more confused still.
I also noticed after a weekend in the pocket the case had come loose on one side. This caused the cover to not notify the phone it was there. It didnt give me a prompt to check he seal. Due to the nature of the case there is more leverage to peel the back from the phone without you easily noticing.
Dont get me wrong I am not done with this case yet but its not impressing me so far, especially given the cost, the shocking cost of it...
Thoughts from other users???
Dissatisfied
I purchased the S-View as well when I got my S5
At first I loved it!
-It's sleek, professional looking IMO
-Screen protection is great
-The case stays shut like its supposed to
-Quick access to Camera
-Easily view text messages
After about a week of using it it became more of a PITA to use than anything.
-Lack of drop protection, but that's a given
-One handed use is frustrating
-No real customization to S-View screen
-I am a heavy email sender/receiver for work and I could not find a way to view email notifications on the S-View
-Inconsistent proximity sensor reaction. I would have to open the case to hang up the phone half the time
-If you flip the cover around to the back of the phone occasionally it would put the screen to sleep
-Any pictures taken while using the camera with the cover closed get saved to a separate folder within the device's storage
-Unlike the S5's screen the S-View screen would collect finger prints like crazy and I always had to clean it off
Just my 2 cents. I went back to Sprint and returned it in exchange for the Otterbox Defender and have no complaints so far!
I also have the Sview cover and trust me its looks nice and fancy but not practical at all Mine is back in it's box. Just too cumbersome to use...
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Item can be found here
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/380903948151?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Pics will come later, i just got it in the mail and don't have another camera that i can use. This is the initial first looks
I got this case in the red colour and for 11 dollars, quality is quite impressive, this case came with an allen key (which is required to open and close the case ) 2 extra pentalobe type screws, I'm not sure what their called and a micro fiber cloth.
Many people had complained about signal loss and weaker signals with the case on but i have found no difference, with the case off, my wifi speeds are around 40mbps and with the case on are around the same mark, maybe a couple mbps slower but nothing noticeable, speakers are also just as loud, IR range seems to have dropped significantly because of how thick the case is and how narrow the opening for the blaster is.
It is stated that the case is for splashes only, like a light rain or wet handed usage but I'm not ready to throw my baby into a bucket of water :cyclops:
I will add pics later but from my initial reaction it seems like a great case
Pros:
looks bada$$
great quality
no real signal loss or draw backs
feel like i could safely drop it off the CN tower
Cons:
Heavy as hell
takes a long time to take it on and off, and don't strip the screws or your gonna have a fun time (not) trying to get the screw out to free your phone
some accessories may not work due to much larger size
Hi there,
You could do an easy test to check how waterproof it is. If you could place a dry tissue inside case and drop it into sink full of water maybe :silly:
I will wait for some feedback.
looks sweet but i doubt the waterproof ness. earpiece speaker covered with glass? how can you hear? BTW put a dab of anti seize on the screws.
its not fully waterproof since the camera and flash aren't covered but for calling in the rain etc its great i played a 90 minute game of soccer in heavy rain and my phone was on top of my bag and when i was don't it worked like new, i only really use the case when I'm going fishing or biking etc
i own one of these used it a month and bought the trident kraken ams case for the s4 and love it. The alluminum one is just heavy (i know what ur thinking of how heavy can it be but it really is and u will notice when u take it off and see how heavy it is) there is signal loss not alot but there is so if u live somewhere with bad signal dont get it or u wont have a signal at all. the buttons are a little hard to press. I worry the home button will wear away the way the top button lays on it. The back and menu buttons have to be pressed hard since there conductive. It is definately not waterproof more splash proof. Also its hard to hear people your calling it in. Your speaker is also muffled.
Hope this helps any questions I will answer. :fingers-crossed:
Hello everyone,
I got my Nexus 5 in white back in August and it's an amazing phone but I recently came across something that confused me.
As I tried to apply a tempered glass screen protector I noticed I couldn't get it to apply properly on the bottom, right under the screen. After a closer look I found out that the glass isn't even there. It's curved inwards which in turn makes it impossible to apply a glass screen protector without air.
Now the device is functioning fine but I'm not sure if this will be covered by warranty. It seems like a defect since I can't think of any physical event causing that. I've never let it fall down and it's still in perfect condition otherwise.
If I could get some advise on what I can do here or if anyone's got similar experience I'd love to hear about it.
Same here just below led notification it's nothing and came like this from factory I have my n5 since last week seen this the 2nd day but you can see it just when you move the phone in light it does not bother me I don't use any screen protector
You need to gently clamp in together on that spot, using a thin cloth to avoid scratches. Leave it for an hour and should stay gone.
Did with my Mime ghost glass. ?
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Don't over do it obviously, or you could crack it.
Yes it is not quite flat. As above, clamp it for 30 minutes or so. I used some cloth wrapped around the phone and a bulldog clip.
This is a commong thing? That doesn't sound good, I kinda hope it's covered by warranty, I'll contact the vendor to see if they can replace it.
They're all the same. Just a design flaw.
Replace it and you'll most likely see the next one is no different.
lyubor said:
This is a commong thing? That doesn't sound good, I kinda hope it's covered by warranty, I'll contact the vendor to see if they can replace it.
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Every one of them is like this. It may even be intentional rather than a flaw. We don't know. Its just the way the N5 is.
I'll start off by saying that I was given this case solely for the purpose of writing an unbiased review. Here it goes!
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE: Poetic has now revised the case where the formerly intrusive "P" logo is now moved above the fingerprint sensor. The "Affinity" branding that used to be on the right edge of the case is now completely removed. All other dimensions, accents, materials, cutouts, etc. have not been changed. The updated version can be purchased from Amazon (where I acquired mine) from the link below. Two additional pictures have also been added; one that compares the cases side-by-side and one with the phone in the revised case
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My phone: Nexus 6P 64 GB Aluminum. Slickwraps skin applied; white carbon fiber back with white carbon fiber frame with matte black visor. Intelliarmor TGSP version 2.
Overall quality: There are two types of materials here; Black TPU and the clear stuff. I don't know what the clear material is, but I'd describe it as a malleable plastic. There are no rough edges
Overall Appearance: This one's subjective, but I like most of the design. I never wanted a case that was opaque. I always liked customizing my phone with skins and whatnot, so a transparent case is to my preference. However, I ultimately prefer having no back cover. Yup, I like true backless bumpers. Down the road, I might introduce a hobby knife to the back cover and remove the center clear plastic section for two reasons:
1. I like the phone to feel thin in the center
2. I don't like the possibility of trapping dirt/dust/sand/lint between the case and the phone (although the vinyl would protect my phone anyways)
Fit: The fit is pretty snug. When trying to get the phone into the case, it was slightly tight. I would probably credit that to the fact that I have frame vinyls applied. That being said, I don't think it's tight enough to warp the phone in anyway. "Snug" is the perfect descriptor here. Referring to the picture that shows the screen of the phone right at the edge, you can see that the entire screen glass is exposed. That means a full edge-to-edge glass screen protector should work here. I emphasize the word "should" because I don't have an edge-to-edge TGSP. I also think the frame vinyls might push the case outwards a slight bit, but it doesn't seem like that makes any considerable difference if you want to use a full coverage TGSP.
Buttons: Before I used the case, I only had the frame vinyls applied. The frame vinyls made it a bit more difficult to find and click the buttons. The case actually adds the "clicky" feeling back to the buttons. This is because the inner surface of the case that comes in contact with the buttons has protrusions that make direct contact with their perspective buttons. The vinyl no longer dampens the feedback of the buttons while using the case. The buttons are not considerably any more or less sensitive than a naked phone.
Cutouts: Please refer to pictures for cutout measurements.
Regarding the USB-C port, the cutout is sufficient. If you look closely at the picture where the phone is plugged in and laying with the screen up, you may notice that that case is slightly bulged outwards when plugged in. The stock USB-C cable makes slight contact with the case and causes the said bulging. This did not cause any difficulties when trying to plug the phone in. In fact, most probably would never even notice this at all. I'm just weird like that.
Referring to the headphone port, the cutout is enough for my headphones (which has a pretty civilian sized plug). However, I know some people like to use studio quality headphones that have huge plug heads. Those who use headphones with larger plugs may need to enlarge the cutout, but I'd venture to say that the included cutout dimension would suffice for the majority.
Referring to the camera cutout, only the area around the vital hardware are exposed. The rest of the visor is covered. Seeing that some people are afraid of shattering this glass, this may be a relief. Looking closely at the rectangle of black TPU around the camera, you'll notice the top and bottom bars are resting on the aluminum body as opposed to the glass visor (mostly). I would think this helps in the event of a dropped phone, as the impact would hopefully spread onto the aluminum body instead of the glass. I'm just guessing that would be how it works out. I'm not testing that for you guys!
Referring to the Nexus Imprint cutout, it's well bevelled. It's not rough on the fingers, but Imprint was more comfortable to use without any case (well duh). It's not difficult to put my finger onto the sensor, but it just felt like an extra edge to feel while trying to unlock the phone.
Feel in the hand: The case is actually pretty minimal. It doesn't add significant bulk to the phone, and allows the phone to still feel pretty thin. The side edges have have some ridges that add to the grippiness of the case. Aside from the vinyls, I've been running the phone without a case. The extra grip is actually much appreciated. The edges also raise the screen slightly off a flat surface when placed screen down. Huge plus because I like to leave the phone out at the dining table, but face down because I don't want the phone to interrupt my meal. The four corners of the case are also bulged ever so slightly. I assume this is good for shock dampening in the event of a corner impact drop.
rice923 said:
I'll start off by saying that I was given this case solely for the purpose of writing an unbiased review. Here it goes!
My phone: Nexus 6P 64 GB Aluminum. Slickwraps skin applied; white carbon fiber back with white carbon fiber frame with matte black visor. Intelliarmor TGSP version 2.
Price: It's $10 on amazon. Not expensive, not cheap. Pretty normal pricing.
Overall quality: There are two types of materials here; Black TPU and the clear stuff. I don't know what the clear material is, but I'd describe it as a malleable plastic. There are no rough edges
Overall Appearance: This one's subjective, but I like most of the design. I never wanted a case that was opaque. I always liked customizing my phone with skins and whatnot, so a transparent case is to my preference. However, I ultimately prefer having no back cover. Yup, I like true backless bumpers. Down the road, I might introduce a hobby knife to the back cover and remove the center clear plastic section for three reasons:
1. I like the phone to feel thin in the center
2. I don't like the possibility of trapping dirt/dust/sand/lint between the case and the phone (although the vinyl would protect my phone anyways)
3. I'm not a fan of the logo smack in the center of the back, especially when the original Nexus logo is obstructed. Considering there are three total logos/labels on the case, this one should've been omitted.
Fit: The fit is pretty snug. When trying to get the phone into the case, it was slightly tight. I would probably credit that to the fact that I have frame vinyls applied. That being said, I don't think it's tight enough to warp the phone in anyway. "Snug" is the perfect descriptor here. Referring to the picture that shows the screen of the phone right at the edge, you can see that the entire screen glass is exposed. That means a full edge-to-edge glass screen protector should work here. I emphasize the word "should" because I don't have an edge-to-edge TGSP. I also think the frame vinyls might push the case outwards a slight bit, but it doesn't seem like that makes any considerable difference if you want to use a full coverage TGSP.
Buttons: Before I used the case, I only had the frame vinyls applied. The frame vinyls made it a bit more difficult to find and click the buttons. The case actually adds the "clicky" feeling back to the buttons. This is because the inner surface of the case that comes in contact with the buttons has protrusions that make direct contact with their perspective buttons. The vinyl no longer dampens the feedback of the buttons while using the case. The buttons are not considerably any more or less sensitive than a naked phone.
Cutouts: Please refer to pictures for cutout measurements.
Regarding the USB-C port, the cutout is sufficient. If you look closely at the picture where the phone is plugged in and laying with the screen up, you may notice that that case is slightly bulged outwards when plugged in. The stock USB-C cable makes slight contact with the case and causes the said bulging. This did not cause any difficulties when trying to plug the phone in. In fact, most probably would never even notice this at all. I'm just weird like that.
Referring to the headphone port, the cutout is enough for my headphones (which has a pretty civilian sized plug). However, I know some people like to use studio quality headphones that have huge plug heads. Those who use headphones with larger plugs may need to enlarge the cutout, but I'd venture to say that the included cutout dimension would suffice for the majority.
Referring to the camera cutout, only the area around the vital hardware are exposed. The rest of the visor is covered. Seeing that some people are afraid of shattering this glass, this may be a relief. Looking closely at the rectangle of black TPU around the camera, you'll notice the top and bottom bars are resting on the aluminum body as opposed to the glass visor (mostly). I would think this helps in the event of a dropped phone, as the impact would hopefully spread onto the aluminum body instead of the glass. I'm just guessing that would be how it works out. I'm not testing that for you guys!
Referring to the Nexus Imprint cutout, it's well bevelled. It's not rough on the fingers, but Imprint was more comfortable to use without any case (well duh). It's not difficult to put my finger onto the sensor, but it just felt like an extra edge to feel while trying to unlock the phone.
Feel in the hand: The case is actually pretty minimal. It doesn't add significant bulk to the phone, and allows the phone to still feel pretty thin. The side edges have have some ridges that add to the grippiness of the case. Aside from the vinyls, I've been running the phone without a case. The extra grip is actually much appreciated. The edges also raise the screen slightly off a flat surface when placed screen down. Huge plus because I like to leave the phone out at the dining table, but face down because I don't want the phone to interrupt my meal. The four corners of the case are also bulged ever so slightly. I assume this is good for shock dampening in the event of a corner impact drop.
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Good review, thank you
The frosted P kills it for me, which is too bad because I like every other design aspect of it.
Elnrik said:
Good review, thank you
The frosted P kills it for me, which is too bad because I like every other design aspect of it.
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After I get my "x only" Dbrand skins, it should look more acceptable. I'm probably still gonna end up making a true bumper out of this down the road[emoji1]
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UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE: Poetic has now revised the case where the formerly intrusive "P" logo is now moved above the fingerprint sensor. The "Affinity" branding that used to be on the right edge of the case is now completely removed. All other dimensions, accents, materials, cutouts, etc. have not been changed. The updated version can be purchased from Amazon (where I acquired mine). Two additional pictures have also been added; one that compares the cases side-by-side and one with the phone in the revised case
I also received this case for review purposes, so if you don't mind, I'll just tack some of my thoughts to your review rather than creating another one? If you don't want this, just let me know!
I've been using this case for the past few days. I received the "updated" version that has the P above the fingerprint reader.
I enjoy the overall feel of the case. I like the ridges on the sides, it really allows you to get some grip on the phone, I feel less likely to drop it.
The buttons feel nice and click nicely, but because of the ridges I have a harder time finding them (and determining power from volume keys) when I'm not looking at the phone. I'm sure this will get easier over time.
I like the clear plastic on the back, I'm running mine stock without any skins, but it's still nice to see the faint nexus logo from the graphite version. As you mentioned that it felt like a snug fit, mine actually feels a little loose in some places, like the top and bottom.
The opening for the finger print reader is larger than the scanner, and I actually prefer this to one the same size as the reader. I feel like it's easier to find and unlock, and recognizes a little easier
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I also received this case for review purposes, so if you don't mind, I'll just tack some of my thoughts to your review rather than creating another one? If you don't want this, just let me know!
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Absolutely fine by me! It's a review thread and you have some thoughts about the same product. All good
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I bought this case. Overall a good case,but my phone keeps turning on in my pocket (I've butt-dialed and accidentally texted gibberish several times since getting this case)
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diomark said:
I bought this case. Overall a good case,but my phone keeps turning on in my pocket (I've butt-dialed and accidentally texted gibberish several times since getting this case)
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Something sounds fishy about that. Never had that problem even once. Also, it takes a fair amount of effort and coincidence to butt dial on a 6p. Gotta press the power button, followed with a way to unlock the device, then precisely press the dialer icon, and choose someone to call. You may want to look into it a bit deeper. I've never butt dialed a single person since owning any smartphone in any configuration in the past 5 years.
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I have smart lock paired with my watch, so all it takes is a swipe (which I guess it can register in my pocket) after it wakes up (which it does from power button being easy to press)
Add that opening to a hangout notification and I've had it send my location to one person and call another - plus I'm frequently finding it having typed random characters (but not necessarily sent) while in my pocket.
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diomark said:
I have smart lock paired with my watch, so all it takes is a swipe (which I guess it can register in my pocket) after it wakes up (which it does from power button being easy to press)
Add that opening to a hangout notification and I've had it send my location to one person and call another - plus I'm frequently finding it having typed random characters (but not necessarily sent) while in my pocket.
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I see. Sounds like all the planets aligned. If you decide you still want to use the case, I would recommend actually shaving down the inside of the button (the side that physically touches the power button of the phone). That should cut back on the sensitivity, but it's effort that I don't know if you'd like to invest.
Design of the Poetic Affinity has changed
They have now removed the AFFINITY branding and brought the P to be above the fingerprint scanner.
Bhalraam32 said:
They have now removed the AFFINITY branding and brought the P to be above the fingerprint scanner.
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Yep its nice. I still need to return my old ones.
good combo on the frost :good: my main concern is protection as im pretty prone to dropping my phones lol, so could u plz update on how it has held on till now, and how good is it at actually protecting the phone.
Lord. Tech said:
good combo on the frost :good: my main concern is protection as im pretty prone to dropping my phones lol, so could u plz update on how it has held on till now, and how good is it at actually protecting the phone.
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It actually has good protection for as thin as it is due to the way its built. Very sturdy case.
Seems like all the "Reviews" are nothing more then install video's of people saying oh its so amazing. But if you dig deeper you will find issues that a proper review would of find easy. So lets review it.
Little about my self. I am and Engineer in the fiber optics industry. I wonk on the absolute faster detectors available. We use UV optical adhesives every day. So needless to say i know a thing or two on this topic.
The concept is great and when done right the best way to attach a screen protector. But this comes at a cost. Cheap out on anything and it will show. So lets look at this.
-Full cover. errrr not really Notch cut for the camera and sensors. Odd because optical adhesive you can go full over and have zero impact on those.
-9H Hardness. "Shakes head" No..Its not. They need to stop claiming this every company. Its not 9H.
-Beveled edges. This is a must. Ask anyone who has one that is not beveled how easy they chip.
-UV curing light is a good design and has plenty of LED's to cure the adhesive. "5w max" Honestly im not seeing those being close to 1w LED's. If people want i'll take apart the light but no heat sinking as far as i can tell. So im guessing 3v 60ma .5w each total max output 3w. And honestly 3w is fine. Its very thin and easy to cure.
Fixture is great and works very well. No complaints on that. Just watch a few videos and read the instructions and you will do fine. The Fixture is well thought out so hats off to engineers who did that.
The ugly. This is where things get bad. This is where you can see the corners that were cut and boy did they cut them.
-Dust removal sticker. Don't use them. Cheap sticker and will leave residue on the screen. Save your self some time and just put them in the trash.
-Cleaning cloth. Not optical quality. Again put it in the trash it will just put stuff on the display. Cheap fabric not a quality optical cleaning cloth.
-Alcohol wipe...Well the directions say that but the wipes included are Ethanol...Please tell me these are not medical grade. If so then they have some additives. Well again trash it and use some 95% or higher Isopropyl alcohol. Make sure no color or sent has been added. You want as pure as you can get.
-Absorption pads. Now i would love to say trash them. But you need them. Make sure you give them a good rub down to remove all the lose fibers on them. And give the long fibers that hang off after a little trim. You do not want one to get under the screen or at the edge.
-Dimples on the underside of the protector. You don't need these. They do nothing but put 4 contact points to your phones display. The adhesive will flow an even coat.
-The worlds cheapest UV adhesive...Guys its bad...Real bad. Give you an idea. In bulk the quality optical adhesive is expensive. Well you get what you pay for or in Whitestone's case you don't get what you do not pay for. I searched and i found the supplier for there adhesive. How cheap is it? Well its $1 per 30ml. Stuff we use is $30 per oz. or 29.9ml. Yup that explains everything. This is why they can give you so much and still keep that price point. But for this you want less but higher quality. Combine that with tubes that are not 100% air tight and you are begging for problems. Also keep in mine UV Adhesive's have a shelf life and exposure to oxygen age them faster.
Lots of people complain about the delamination. This is from bad UV adhesive. Keep in mind you have a bare glass surface you are attaching to a glass surface with an oleophobic coating. This coating does after the adhesion of the adhesive. So you really need the proper quality adhesive. The adhesive they use never fully cures. If you check out my video in the Deamination topic you can see even after curing then putting 200w of UV on it for an addition 20sec with a proper industrial UV curing station it never fully cures. Multiple kits i have tested they all do this. But its $1 per 30ml so what do you expect.
You will see pictures of the optical property's of the adhesive. It is my opinion that it is not optical grade. Also you will see a picture of the delamination.
Overall this is a 4-10. Held back by the extremely low quality UV adhesive. The most important part is the cheapest. This is why they cut the notch in the protector. Because it would affect the caners where a proper optical adhesive would have zero affect. I'm disappointed. This was hyped so much but no one really looked at it. It's a great concept held back by cut corners. The proper adhesive this would be a 8-10. This method with the proper optical grade adhesive could do a true full cover screen protector then it would be a 10/10. But i do not recommend this. Price is to high for the corners that were cut. The adhesive issue really needs to be addressed because i would take a few other protectors over this.
Message to Whitestone.
I tested Adhesives from 3 kits. Results were all the same. All the kits were ordered at different times as 2 were from Amazon and one was direct from you. I have identified this adhesive not long ago and this is typical for it. However if you want to play we only use the highest quality materials card then you can go ahead and send me a tube of it. It can be in the manufacturers tube or the tubes that come in the kits. I do not want another kit im only interested in testing this adhesive and i will give you one chance to test some prior and send it to me. I will then report my finding's on here and make a note of it here. If you would like to work together on finding a cost effective quality optical adhesive i have contacts with not only the distributes for these but also with the companies that make the highest quality optical grade UV adhesives in the industry. I do not want nothing in return i will work with you for free to fix this product so that future phones can benefit from it and i have the option to easily order a quality kit. I want a 100% coverage protector and working together this can be done. There is potential here and it is with the system developed for the install and that is what makes the product stand out. My work has a building in SoCal. I go out there a few times a year and i am more then willing to come visit your office why i am out there and we can talk.
Now i know i will get the "Mines perfect best ever" post. But those post mean nothing. You have not tested the adhesive. I have. You just have not had any issues with it yet and you may never have them. But i went ahead and i tested this. Same results every time and i know what adhesive they use now.
So, would you say this thing is a pass?
Thanks for the detailed review and focusing on everything, not JUST the adhesive.
I still got mine applied to my phone, and well.. it is there. The time it starts wearing off the edges, maybe I will apply the second spare one just because I already bought it. But yeah, a full, really full screen coverage one with perfect optical properties would be awesome to have!
felloffthetruck said:
So, would you say this thing is a pass?
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I won't advise anyone to buy or not to buy this. Thats for you to decide. I'll answer any questions you have thought. I will say that I will not use this for reasons I posted. I won't buy another one until changes are made at the minimum in there selection of adheasive.
Could you point me in the direction of a good adhesive that you would recommend? (That I can buy online)
irieblue said:
Could you point me in the direction of a good adhesive that you would recommend? (That I can buy online)
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Will post that when I finish testing the samples I have.
bignazpwns said:
-Full cover. errrr not really Notch cut for the camera and sensors. Odd because optical adhesive you can go full over and have zero impact on those.
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Me a bit nitpicking here, but...
Weird, the part of optical physics that I learned back ... long ago.. taught quite clearly that if there are any surfaces with different optical properties on each side, it will have an impact. And I'm pretty sure the adhesives do not match (optically) exactly with either glass it touches (let alone both). Whether those effects will be significant enough to be visible in the photos depends on the whole optical path (and sensor's properties), though.
Since none of the surfaces have proper coatings aimed for optical performance (more for anti fingerprint etc.), and especially the protector glass (the internal material, not the coatings) not designed for optics, I'd expect ever so slightly more lens flaring and similar effects. (If there would be a flash LED for the front camera, it could get really messy, but Note 9 seems to use the whole display for front side "flashing", which reduces the spot brightness near the camera lens compared to a LED flash.)
The adhesive filling the space between the phone's glass and protector's glass does make the effect much lesser than with a protector that sits a tiny bit above with a tiny air gap. So in that sense, with these liquid adhesive type protectors, I'd expect the effects to be indeed mostly ignorable. But not zero, per se.
For the other sensors than camera, the effect can be considered zero, since they are measuring mostly (more or less) spatial averages to begin with. A bit of fuzziness doesn't change their results. Hmm. though I don't know how the iris-camera works.
All that said, I'd still say to choose a protector that covers the lens area(s). A single scratch on the phone's glass over the lens can make a worse effect than a protector does.
Also, (me partially countering the point of having an effect): I have currently a really bad example of a protector myself; a normal cheap protector with a typical dot grid on bottom surface, a normal (non-smooth) adhesive even on the area of the front camera lens, not a perfect fit by shape, etc. That is, I can see the non-smooth stuff between the glass layers (when display is black, and on the sensor spots). Yet, the photos come out ok, so things can obviously be pretty darn crappy and still be ok for the front camera needs. Though, I haven't zoomed in or done comparative tests in more challenging lighting situations. (I will do better tests once other protectors arrive; I need to keep this one on for now, for its main task of protecting.)
Nice review, but the whitestone still beats having nothing on the phone. I did the ghetto "whitestone" on my Note 8 using a generic glass protector and LOCA glue bought on Amazon. Served its purpose and protected my phone when I dropped it on a gravel surface. Phone looked brand new when I replaced the glass with a whitestone version because the ghetto glue method was too time consuming to ensure no bubbles. I have installed 4 more whitestone glass screens on mine and others phone with no issues and would not hesitate to recommend it. The issues you bring up have merit, but do not deter the protective elements of the tempered glass screen. I would like a better glue solution as well. But until then, my whitestone paired with a quality case will have to do. So far it does just fine.
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Nice review, but the whitestone still beats having nothing on the phone. I did the ghetto "whitestone" on my Note 8 using a generic glass protector and LOCA glue bought on Amazon. Served its purpose and protected my phone when I dropped it on a gravel surface. Phone looked brand new when I replaced the glass with a whitestone version because the ghetto glue method was too time consuming to ensure no bubbles. I have installed 4 more whitestone glass screens on mine and others phone with no issues and would not hesitate to recommend it. The issues you bring up have merit, but do not deter the protective elements of the tempered glass screen. I would like a better glue solution as well. But until then, my whitestone paired with a quality case will have to do. So far it does just fine.
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I can't get the same protection from a $12 protector. So how does it beat those in terms of protection? It offers no more protection then any other on the market. Infact the Zag elite offers more protection for the same price. The thicker gel adheasive offers significantly more impact protection. Much harder to put on and remove air bubbles but in terms of protection this is vastly superior. Where zag went wrong is not telling people how soft the adhesive is so they push down on it as hard as they can to get a bubble out and it cracks. And then they had to gimp it with some unnecessary bezzles that cover a bit of the display
Bottom line is the Dome is $20 over priced. The adhesive is trash and the olophobic coating is the worst I have ever seen. No excuses for this on something that sells it's self as premium. It's not. It's the same quality as the $12 Alibaba's and personally I would get one of those. Warranty is nothing since you could still get one on Alibaba shippped for the price you will pay for the warranty replacement. And it uses the same trash adheasive.
When you buy "Loca" it's trash from bad batches that they sell on places like Amazon or Alibaba or to places like Whitestone at a heavy discount because it's defective. So you are already useing a defective product from the start. These are facts. I tested these and posted those info. It's trash they pay $1 per 30ml of those stuff. And they call it Loca because it's not an optical adheasive. It makes it sound fancy because they can't call it a UV optical adheasive. Because it's not optical. But it's "optical cured" so Loca.
Facts are facts. I proven this adheasive is trash and defective from multiple kits. I'll test any of it. Got any left I'll test that Whitestone can send me some I'll test that because I know it's trash and it's from batches that were not mixed right. Multiple people have committed on this issues that's why I started testing this and looking into it because what they had in the prictures we seen before. Hell I can tell you exactly what is wrong with it. However working with a supplier when we had that issue I signed a NDA as part of them telling us every detail about it. Because we needed to know why it did that, when it started, how to test for it, how it will be fixed etc.
Like I said. If you use it and like it that's great. No problems with it that's even better. Get a case drop it face down. On a hard surface so it only hits the case then protector is unsupported and you will have delamination. I did this as part of the big testing video I'm doing for this. 2 drops it started.
Also I'm willing to work with them. All my test data as well as some samples I'll send to them or take to then when I'm in California. I love there install method and it will be a home run when the corners that we're cut are fixed. They pay $1 per 30ml of adheasive I can get them a bulk order that ends up being $1.75 per 30ml if they buy bulk lots. That's optical grade I'll send them the contract info and the sales rep I know for there. Use that and it's fixed. I tested that adheasive on this also and it works just like it should. I really want them to improve it.
As of right now now on my desk I have 35 different uv optical adheasives and more on the way. One manufacturer is even making a custom adheasive to test for this application. This all started as a simple test it and see what's wrong with it but due to all the people asking it's gotten much bigger. I hope Whitestone reaches out to me and I can get them the test information I have so they can improve the product.
Hi, I have been following your findings and it is an interesting matter for me at least.
Anyway, I wanted to write an update about my using the Gear VR with the default Whitedome / adhesive installation.
Previously I mentioned I got the "bubbles / webbing" permanently at the very bottom part of the protector, on a central area right above the USB connector (about 10mm wide, 1mm tal), after having the Whitedome applied and using the GearVR on the next day. Now it has been a couple of weeks maybe, and the bubbles part is still there (size unchanged apparently).
What I want to add is, something a bit unexpected (for me) happened: I used the Gear VR again yesterday (several days after the Whitedome installation) for around one hour, and and after taking the phone off, there were MORE bubbles / webbing in a different area, almost horizontally oval in shape, around 1.5cm wide by 0.8cm high. It was positioned about 2cm ABOVE the early thin stripe of bubbles, completely separate from it (not a continuation). I was pissed off because THIS was on top of the screen and obstructiong the image, really annoying. As it was late I decided to just go to sleep and deal with it when I had some free time. But to my surprise it was COMPLETELY GONE this morning. The previous thin mark at the bottom remains. But I can see no trace whatsoever of the "new" affected region..
gamekill said:
Hi, I have been following your findings and it is an interesting matter for me at least.
Anyway, I wanted to write an update about my using the Gear VR with the default Whitedome / adhesive installation.
Previously I mentioned I got the "bubbles / webbing" permanently at the very bottom part of the protector, on a central area right above the USB connector (about 10mm wide, 1mm tal), after having the Whitedome applied and using the GearVR on the next day. Now it has been a couple of weeks maybe, and the bubbles part is still there (size unchanged apparently).
What I want to add is, something a bit unexpected (for me) happened: I used the Gear VR again yesterday (several days after the Whitedome installation) for around one hour, and and after taking the phone off, there were MORE bubbles / webbing in a different area, almost horizontally oval in shape, around 1.5cm wide by 0.8cm high. It was positioned about 2cm ABOVE the early thin stripe of bubbles, completely separate from it (not a continuation). I was pissed off because THIS was on top of the screen and obstructiong the image, really annoying. As it was late I decided to just go to sleep and deal with it when I had some free time. But to my surprise it was COMPLETELY GONE this morning. The previous thin mark at the bottom remains. But I can see no trace
whatsoever of the "new" affected region..
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That's delamination from defective uv adheasive. As in my video you can see it cures about 50% and then still leaves some wet uncureable adheasive behind and is in some cases acting as an indexing gel. The delamination is still there you will need a microscope to see but masked by that adheasive that's wet acting as an indexing gel.
I got a gear VR on the way. It's on loan from a user to test it with another adheasive. I'll test this and see how it holds up. Run the phone hot and do multiple install and removals then do a few battery drains why it's in the vr. Glad this is a work phone and not my personal phone.
I actually find the oleophobic coating of the whitestone to be very good.
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harlenm said:
I actually find the oleophobic coating of the whitestone to be very good.
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Yeah same here.
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Yeah same here.
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Then it's more product inconsistency. Friend said his is holding up ok. I know mine had scraches in it after a few hours. And one of them out of the box had a burn in the coating as well as a deep scrach deeper then the olophobic.
Any product recommendation or where we can get the good loca glue?
I personally would be interested in a tube of high quality adhesive if anyone is able to source some. Perhaps the OP would be able to point us to a supplier?
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Then it's more product inconsistency. Friend said his is holding up ok. I know mine had scraches in it after a few hours. And one of them out of the box had a burn in the coating as well as a deep scrach deeper then the olophobic.
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Ouch that looks rough. Never had those issues on multiple protectors but inconsistency does happen of course with all products. If they don't provide adequate service or replacement though, well then that's a different issue
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Ouch that looks rough. Never had those issues on multiple protectors but inconsistency does happen of course with all products. If they don't provide adequate service or replacement though, well then that's a different issue
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I posted this before. I will say Whitestone sent out a replacement kit for it for free and we're very easy to deal with and gave me very fast responses. So the service is great even though people say it's bad my experience was great. I reached out to them on Facebook and not via website so maybe Facebook is the way to go. And I noted all that when I made that post.
I would do the same for the adhesive but I know they can send out 1,000 kits they will all have this issue because the Adheasive used is from defective batches that had issues with the mixing process. I mean it works...but you will never get a full cure and will have issues under the right conditions and those are relatively common. But some people may never experience this.
But all of them so far have had pretty bad olophobic coating's. One is like it had none at all. One had the coating burned "pic in the previous post" and 2 just meh. Nothing great. But that's fine because I use the leftover ceramic coating I used for my car on my screens since it's better and thicker so I usually get over a year and 1/2 before I see any decrease in preformance. But this Stull is around $400 for a small bottle for a car and after not much is left. But Walmart sells a few kits. One is a great kit and only $12. If people wanna know what kit I'll let you know. Around here only one a almao had this kit in stock. "gerogia" the rest had other brands.
I'm one of the 'lucky' ones who has had no problems whatsoever. Going on three months and still getting compliments on how nice my screen looks. It's like I don't have a screen protector on at all.
I'm completely dissapointed from Whitestone.
I have been using it for weeks and yesterday, (all of a sudden) the tempered glass started to have a small line in the left edge of the phone and it seems like it is kinda lifted.
Unfortunately, the company wont help me, because I didnt bought it from their authorised stores
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