Just how do the networks track (and bill) what data is used on a phone when used as a hotspot and what's used by the phone itself? Is it through spyware on branded phones?
I found out the hard way that my network (vodafone Ireland) bills differently for mobile data used by the handset itself (browser, podcast downloades etc) and mobile data when tethered to the handset.
I though data was data
my old network didn't make the distinction - I had 8gb of data to use as I pleased - use the phone as a hotspot or browse from it (what's the difference)
So I'm wondering if this isn't an issue on unbranded phones as there isn't the same bloat/spyware installed on them?
Good read.
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-companies-detect-tethering-incl-wifi-hotspot
The latest comment is most interesting. It seems that most likely carriers will have greater controls with branded phones.
Yeah I'm going to do a little testing on a non branded phone and see if anything shows up on my bill.
Thanks for the link @csk1jw
cheers
Hi,
I sometimes need to travel to places with just GSM. I want to establish a connection to the internet using classic dial up as in 56k modem type connection. I would Ideally like to do this with an android phone but i'm open to suggestions.
Any Ideas?
AW: [Q] Classic Dial up with no PC
With 2G (GSM) you should already have a data plan incorporated. Just start the browser.
If your mobile has a modem of course...
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Takalani said:
Hi,
I sometimes need to travel to places with just GSM. I want to establish a connection to the internet using classic dial up as in 56k modem type connection. I would Ideally like to do this with an android phone but i'm open to suggestions.
Any Ideas?
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You want that connection for your mobile of for your laptop? What phone do you have?
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You want that connection for your mobile of for your laptop? What phone do you have?
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No PC. just straight out dialup connection to connect my phone to a classic dialup network. I currently have an SG3. I travel to places where i have just GSM. I don't want to take a PC with. I just want to be able to dial into a server the old fashion way through my phone, for my phone.
Takalani said:
No PC. just straight out dialup connection to connect my phone to a classic dialup network. I currently have an SG3. I travel to places where i have just GSM. I don't want to take a PC with. I just want to be able to dial into a server the old fashion way through my phone, for my phone.
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Well, as far as I know, you have to obtain connection settings from your phone carrier. Bhere is no difference between GPRS, EDGE, 3G and HSDPA, except speed! Connection setting are the same and the phone will switch automaticaly to the best connection. Google the internet for the settings for your location and your carrier.
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Well, as far as I know, you have to obtain connection settings from your phone carrier. Bhere is no difference between GPRS, EDGE, 3G and HSDPA, except speed! Connection setting are the same and the phone will switch automaticaly to the best connection. Google the internet for the settings for your location and your carrier.
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I want to dial the old DialUp way. Dial through GSM to an internet service provider through a telephone number like a classic fax 56k modem.
GPRS won't work because i there is no coverage.
I want a way to do good old classic v92 56k modem type dialing
Takalani said:
I want to dial the old DialUp way. Dial through GSM to an internet service provider through a telephone number like a classic fax 56k modem.
GPRS won't work because i there is no coverage.
I want a way to do good old classic v92 56k modem type dialing
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Well, if there is no coverage.... this means that you cannot use your phone at all. The lowest transfer rate is GPRS, and it can by dialed IF you have any signal prom you phone carrier. So, if you can use you phone to make calls, you can cake a GPRS connection. I don't think if there is any phone company that allow dialup connection other that in they own network, and if they allow... well, it will cost big money.
So, I repeat: if you can make phone calls, this means that you have signal from your telephone company and you can make a dialup connection if you know the correct settings! Connection speed depends on signal and phone performance!
Takalani said:
I want to dial the old DialUp way. Dial through GSM to an internet service provider through a telephone number like a classic fax 56k modem.
GPRS won't work because i there is no coverage.
I want a way to do good old classic v92 56k modem type dialing
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Why?
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Well, if there is no coverage.... this means that you cannot use your phone at all. The lowest transfer rate is GPRS, and it can by dialed IF you have any signal prom you phone carrier. So, if you can use you phone to make calls, you can cake a GPRS connection. I don't think if there is any phone company that allow dialup connection other that in they own network, and if they allow... well, it will cost big money.
So, I repeat: if you can make phone calls, this means that you have signal from your telephone company and you can make a dialup connection if you know the correct settings! Connection speed depends on signal and phone performance!
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3rd world country, anything is possible, including GSM with no GPRS . I don't mind paying voice call rates for a data connection.
change the way the question is asked
Background info. I just switched to AT&T a week ago. I can only afford a 1GB data plan (retired). Before I changed to AT&T (stay with me) I had a Verizon "unlimited data plan", (would take too long to explain why I switched). Anyway, I forgot to change the settings, in the phone, to turn off the "Mobile Network" so I burned through 90% of my data plan in 1 week.
I have a crazy idea. I have unlimited "talk" on my plan. So I want to use the "talk" minutes on my plan for my Galaxy S3 to access the internet through free Dial-up", so I won't go over on my "data Plan" limit. Don't want to link to a PC.
Note to ALL Cellular providers: You guys brought the "Smartphone" to market and hyped them to get us to buy them and use them. Then you hyped "unlimited" data. Then we started using our smartphones and a lot of data. Now your networks can't support the data usage, so you started charging more and more for the data and took away the unlimited plans to limit the data usage. Shame on you!!
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Background info. I just switched to AT&T a week ago. I can only afford a 1GB data plan (retired). Before I changed to AT&T (stay with me) I had a Verizon "unlimited data plan", (would take too long to explain why I switched). Anyway, I forgot to change the settings, in the phone, to turn off the "Mobile Network" so I burned through 90% of my data plan in 1 week.
I have a crazy idea. I have unlimited "talk" on my plan. So I want to use the "talk" minutes on my plan for my Galaxy S3 to access the internet through free Dial-up", so I won't go over on my "data Plan" limit. Don't want to link to a PC.
Note to ALL Cellular providers: You guys brought the "Smartphone" to market and hyped them to get us to buy them and use them. Then you hyped "unlimited" data. Then we started using our smartphones and a lot of data. Now your networks can't support the data usage, so you started charging more and more for the data and took away the unlimited plans to limit the data usage. Shame on you!!
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I don't think you'll find a way to trick AT&T... "talk" minutes use voice connection so I do not think you'll be able to make a dial-up connection using your "talk" minutes. If you're going to manage this, many phone companies will have to change their rate plans!
1GB should be enough for a commonly used: email, chat, news...
I will be travelling to a foreign country next month. I have arranged to get a SIM while in country so I can continue to use my private Google maps and GPS on my phone while I am there. There are, of course, bandwidth restrictions and costs, so I am looking to keep the traffic utilized by my phone to an absolute minimum when utilizing the data signal via the SIM. I ran a traffic monitor on my data connection over the last 24 hours and with limited use of the phone, it still managed to cumulatively send/receive almost 180MB of data.
Can anyone suggest any apps or have any suggestions (short of uninstalling all of my other passive data-using apps) to control what apps are permitted to use the data connection? Any assistance is appreciated, thanks!
*I'm rockin' a Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II (SCH-I605) in case that affects anyone's response.
13I find myself with a few phones handed down to me, and I am often in areas where there in no mobile phone network available,
I am curious as to weather or not these Android phones (on which I have gained root access) could be perhaps booted to a system that allows communication directly between the phones instead of via the non available mobile network.
If I remember correctly, an article I read some years ago described an open source project designed to offer telecommunications using the transceiver in each phone to create a network for areas that had no other available network.
If anyone could point me to some information on the above described network, or just using these as "walkie talkies" I would very much appreciate it.
I was not able to find much in the way of relevant information, but Wikipedia says,
Developments
Some cellular telephone networks offer a push-to-talk handset that allows walkie-talkie-like operation over the cellular network, without dialing a call each time. However, the cellphone provider must be accessible.
Motorola has IDEN cellphones (e.g., i867) that can have 15 conversations over each of 10 900Mhz channels (see Moto Talk) between compatible cellphones without using the cellphone network or a base station. This is very useful outside the range of a cellphone provider as well as reducing network charges.
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Smartphone apps
A variety of mobile apps exist that mimic a walkie-talkie style interaction. They are marketed as low-latency, asynchronous communication. The advantages touted over two-way voice calls include: the asynchronous nature not requiring full user interaction (like SMS) and it is voice over IP (VOIP) so it does not use minutes on a cellular plan. Applications on the market that offer this walkie-talkie style interaction for audio include Voxer, Zello, and HeyTell, among others.[7] An application that offers this style of interaction for video is Glide.[8]
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Nothing in this seems to be what I am looking for.
have you tried restarting your phone? my phone sometimes crashes and restarting works perfectly, try it seriously
There may be apps that provide Walkie Talkie like functionality over Wifi, but I think you need to distinguish what you are doing over wifi, bluetooth, and cellular. I'd go with one of these. You might even be able to setup some kind of mesh-based network using wifi - depending on the area you are trying to cover.
iDen and other carrier based PTT solutions are based on connectivity to cellular networks, and won't help you here. Additionally, most GSM networks are not outfitted with native PTT functionality. You are best working with Local Area Networks (LANs, like WiFi) or Personal Area Networks (PAN, like bluetooth)
WiFi and Bluetooth operate on spectrum which is unlicensed and available for public use - with some restrictions, such as power output and the like. Anything you could coax out of WiFi or Bluetooth should be fine.
Cellular, on the other hand, is an entirely different breed. Cell networks are generally regulated and licensed by relevant government authorities. Trying to setup your own cell towers is likely illegal in most countries without licensing or regulatory approval - with a few exceptions, like carrier sponsored micro cells. That would include tampering with the cellular radios in most devices.
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Yes,,, the legal issue is something I had not yet considered and you make some important points.
It is likely that even if I find the information on the project I mention above I will not be able to do anything other than learn a little from it, that's OK.
You mention IDEN as being carrier based, as far as I can tell IDEN is one of the few that is not.
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Motorola has iDEN cellphones (e.g., i867) that can have 15 conversations over each of 10 900Mhz channels (see Moto Talk) between compatible cellphones without using the cellphone network or a base station. This is very useful outside the range of a cellphone provider as well as reducing network charges.
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There is more info on this at this site .wikipedia.org/wiki/MOTO_Talk ( need to make more posts before I can give a link ).
I do however note that some carriers do not allow this feature to be used, or limit its use.
MOTO Talk also works only on some specific Motorola phones, reading between the lines there seems to be some hardware as well as software that is unique to these models.
I'm most interested in the open source project ( I think it was open source ) that I read about some years ago, perhaps it is on SourceForge?
I have trouble finding a useful search string for Google, any suggestions?
Hi,
we have a problem in Germany. There is a service with unlimited mobile lte traffic (no speedstep down), but the provider has bound the service to a special router with imei fencing.
The problem is that the router is a faulty (high pings, often disconnects, high cpu usage, low quality antenna ports (no way to get under -6 dB rsrq)) mixture of three routers. One smartphone cpu, one very old lte router (B880) and a VDSL router.
In order to use the unlimited lte sim into a another huawei stick, its neccessary to change the IMEI of the stick to the IMEI of the special router.
Is that possible ?
Best regards
redfox245
someone claims in a youtube video that it is possible youtube.com/watch?v=65w01LCHUbo
that he has written a tool for such a task - havent had luck to find a way yet...
any progress on your side?
You will find no help here. Changing the imei is illegal in many places (as are any tools. To do so) and as such all talks are banned on xda.