I have tried XiaomiTool, which resulted in a brick.
I had to factory reset from the recovery, then it turned on, which resulted in all GApps disappearing. Got a 550mb OTA which brought them back.
I read that i can root by using Developer rom, but that is only available in the chinese version.
There is no global developer rom. Please show me how to root this phone, i already bricked it once on the first day.
Android 4.4.4
MIUI 6.5.3.0 Stable.
http://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/miui-weekly-rom-releases.103/
Xiaomi.eu's ROMs have Google Apps and root. 5.7.2 is perfect, haven't tested latest yet.
Which one should I Download?
There are so many links, none of which seem right for the Mi4.
And it says in the post that they are without root?
P.Kosunen said:
http://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/miui-weekly-rom-releases.103/
Xiaomi.eu's ROMs have Google Apps and root. 5.7.2 is perfect, haven't tested latest yet.
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http://htcfanboys.com/download/acid/?action=list&folder=97014
Cancro is for Mi4 and Mi3. Weekly releases are based on chinese developer version and rooted.
P.Kosunen said:
http://htcfanboys.com/download/acid/?action=list&folder=97014
Cancro is for Mi4 and Mi3. Weekly releases are based on chinese developer version and rooted.
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Thanks a ton. I am used to a nexus 4 so all this seems new to me.
Is there a guide to flash this? I wouldn't mind wiping data this one time.
What method Should i use to Update, by keeping data?
Thanks again.
PS isnt there something like this based on the global version?
What is the difference between this and the one from the MIUI website Chinese developer rom?
Easiest way is from MIUI Updater app, "..." from up right, choose update package... Can try dirty flash first, If there is problems/apps fc do factory reset.
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Easiest way is from MIUI Updater app, "..." from up right, choose update package... Can try dirty flash first, If there is problems/apps fc do factory reset.
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And what about the difference between Chinese MIUI Developer official and xiaomi.eu roms?
Thanks.
Xiaomi.eu weekly roms are based on those chinese developer versions so dirty flash might work. They disable chinese only apps and features and add languages.
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Xiaomi.eu weekly roms are based on those chinese developer versions so dirty flash might work. They disable chinese only apps and features and add languages.
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I have installed it and it is working great.
One major problem, Everytime i install an APK, it asks me to grant permission, and only lets me allow it once after waiting 10 seconds.
There is no Allow Unknown Sources Checkbox.
Please help, it is very annoying as i have so many APKs to install on the new phone.
EDIT: Nevermind, I found the setting.
Thanks a lot for your Help.
P.Kosunen said:
Xiaomi.eu weekly roms are based on those chinese developer versions so dirty flash might work. They disable chinese only apps and features and add languages.
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Hi again,have you tried the latest rom?
Nothing happens if i just install it, but after i restore about 50 apps, it starts rebooting. Every 2-3 minutes.
Not sure What to do.
Have tried a factory reset.
No i am still with 5.7.2, no hurry to upgrade.
Restoring apps could cause problems sometimes, try clean install. (I open all favorite apps in Firefox and and bookmark them so i can use "Open All in Tabs" and install them easily for any device.)
P.Kosunen said:
No i am still with 5.7.2, no hurry to upgrade.
Restoring apps could cause problems sometimes, try clean install. (I open all favorite apps in Firefox and and bookmark them so i can use "Open All in Tabs" and install them easily for any device.)
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How is your battery life on those roms?
I am getting horrible battery life with like 1% drain every minute even when I'm not using it.
And I keep getting "com.Google.gapps has stopped.
I've wiped everything, clean install.
Please help.
http://htcfanboys.com/download/acid/?action=load&file=109949
There was some problems in this weeks original, did you try 5.7.26 hotfix? (Im still at 5.7.2, that should be better with battery and Gapps are working.)
P.Kosunen said:
http://htcfanboys.com/download/acid/?action=load&file=109949
There was some problems in this weeks original, did you try 5.7.26 hotfix? (Im still at 5.7.2, that should be better with battery and Gapps are working.)
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Thanks.
Do you recommend I Install 5.7.2 or the Latest Hotfix?
Haven't tried latest, but can confirm 5.7.2 is working fine so try that. Usually i upgrade only after couple people say it's working good on Mi4 in Xiaomi.eu MIUI Weekly ROM Releases forum.
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Haven't tried latest, but can confirm 5.7.2 is working fine so try that. Usually i upgrade only after couple people say it's working good on Mi4 in Xiaomi.eu MIUI Weekly ROM Releases forum.
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Do I need to make a full wipe to downgrade or just flash with the updater app?
Do full wipe because com.Google.gapps has stopped problem.
Ever since I upgraded to android 10, I haven't been able to get OK Google to enable on any ROM (tried ArrowOS, AOSiP, Evolution X, AICP); in every ROM, switching on OK Google in Assistant settings just has it turn right back off after a few seconds, with a driving warning and "Something went wrong. Try again." at the bottom of the screen. I grabbed a logcat while running Evolution X, but I took a peek at logcat on other ROMs and the error is identical:
https://pastebin.com/Ryqz1iww
For the record, this is a Perseus global model on 11.0.3.0.QEEMIXM firmware that's had MIUI 11 then Xiaomi.EU's latest MIUI 11 stable on it prior to going to custom android 10 roms.
If any more info would be helpful toward solving this, let me know and I'll grab it.
EDIT: OK Google IS WORKING under Xiaomi.EU's latest MIUI 11 build, but still no dice on any custom ROM.
EDIT 2: If a ROM has gapps included, it works. If I have to flash opengapps, it doesn't.
EDIT 3: Solved! Just flash the latest firmware again after you flash everything else - you can get the firmware here.
I'm on the latest Xiaomi.EU weekly ROM and OK Google works just fine.
Official ROMs are the only things I CAN get it to work on. Vanilla MIUI 11 and Xiaomi.EU both work for this, so it's not just an issue with my Google account or something - but something is preventing OK Google from working on any of the custom ROMs, including the latest versions of the ROMs mentioned in my OP, even those that include GApps, so it's not like I'm using a bad GApps package. Literally all I do is wipe everything (incl. formatting data), flash the ROM, flash Magisk (which I also did on the MIUI ROMs it works with), reboot, connect to wifi, log in to google (I've tried declining to restore a backup), go straight to Assistant settings and it fails, same error as in that logcat in OP on every ROM it happens on.
Hey, I have the same issue on Evo X. Have you managed to work it out? Thanks
Same issue here on AOSIP. Interestingly, I have two identical devices (Mi Mix 3), running the same version of AOSIP, and on one it works fine, and the other does not!
In case it makes any difference, I am using a gsuite account.
Solved! Thanks to a tip from @Caccu, I now have it working. The secret was to flash the latest firmware over the ROM, even if you're already on the latest firmware. I'm not clear on why, but it works. If you need the latest firmware, you can get it from here. For reference I'm using V12.0.1.0.QEEMIXM on my global Perseus model.
if you flash the latest firmware over a ROM. then you'll be using the latest firmware, and not the ROM you wanted. is that right?
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if you flash the latest firmware over a ROM. then you'll be using the latest firmware, and not the ROM you wanted. is that right?
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No no, just the firmware, not the whole MIUI package/ROM. The link I provided only has the firmware, with the rest of MIUI stripped out. The ROM is unaffected, the only change I notice after flashing it is that OK Google works now.
First of all. I have a Poco X3 Pro with 8GB RAM and 256GB Storage. MIUI is v12.5.2.0 (RJUEUXM). Model says M2102J20SG. I Have bought my phone 8 months ago and yesterday I decided to unlock it, mistakenly thinking that would let me disable the Xiaomi apps I do not like.
TL; DR:
1) Can I root my phone with stock rom?
2) Can I disable Xiaomi apps on stock rom if I root it?
3) Any suggestions for me with priority on stability over performance?
I have not been involved in rooting a phone in many years. The last android phone I had and rooted was a ZTE Blade and I mean the first Blade, which was like over a decade ago. After that I did a mistake to go on iPhone and then on an LG G6, that never made me feel like I needed to root it honestly.
The main reason I want to root my phone is to debloat it safely, removing/freezing/disabling quite a lot of Xiaomi's extra software, that I just do not want on my phone. MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me, although I have to admit, due to how I am worried that updating it will make my phone more sluggy and will affect battery life, I have yet to ever update it, still being on version 12.5.2.0.
I honestly would not mind to use a custom rom, but my preference is always stability over performance, except if that would offer me extra battery life and the current MIUI's battery life is beyond excellent in my experience, but maybe because LG G6's battery life was never that good since the day I bought it. I am definitely open to suggestions, about the course of action you people think I should take.
You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
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You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
aurocha said:
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
- Regards,
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I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
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If you uninstall them via ADB on the active user profile they will stay uninstalled even after an update. I did so with 12.5.5 and upgraded to 13.0.1 a while back and they stayed uninstalled.
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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You could also try XiaomiEU rom, which is basically what you want: debloated MIUI. But to have true control over the apps and features you want, rom like Crdroid is the way to go.
Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
weltall2 said:
Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Don't worry, you won't brick your phone if you just follow instructions, even then, you would have to do some crazy **** to hard brick your phone, most likely you will just end up with bootloop, which is always fixable by just reflashing the rom.
Read carefully and everything will be fine. I am on ArrowOS since I got the phone, updating regularly, rooting, using magisk modules, zero problems so far. Most of the time, battery life is better since useless bloat won't drain it so much.
Purely for battery life reasons I would personally never suggest switching to a custom rom from MIUI, because with a few ADB commands you can get rid of most of the "useless" bloat. However, if you are concerned about your privacy and don't want to feed Xiaomi with your data, then Lineage would be a good choice as an alternative OS, since at least the official versions are heavily regulated.
The battery life of a debloated MIUI is fantastic, at least in my case.
Ok, this will probably be a bit of a dumb and final question before I jump into the whole custom rome in the next days when I have time. I have seen a lot of times people mentioning TWRP or in general recovery that should be android 12 compatible, rather than the normal v11 provided in the twrp site. crDroid even seems to offer it's own recovery for it's latest android 12.1 version. I am still on Android 11 (MIUI 12.5.2.0). Does that mean I need to first update my phone to the latest MIUI to upgrade my software to android 12, or the recovery is backwards compatible?
I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
Hi!! I'm on the same situation here, coming from a Poco 1 (which is being really hard to let go) to a Poco x3 Pro so this thread is being really useful to me cause I'm basically on the same dilemma, stock vs custom?
I always used custom but when I bought my Poco 1 there was an automated script that unbloated the phone so I did that and stayed with the stock with no issues at all in this 3 years of use.
Now, for the poco x3, the only way of doing the same is by going app by app and removing it through ADB which, as you mentioned, is not that good if you are not sure what to remove so that made me think of going to a custom rom. I mean, I just installed it and all that xiaomi junk is removed.
What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ohhhh I see! I think I'll try crDroid too and Arrow, as long as it's debloated, the IR works as long with the radio and the nfc, I'm happy.