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Alright maybe the term Idiots is not correct - some of us like me don't have time to troll though every thread/post and pick out all the details so I have a request for some kind hearted knowledgeable person.
What's needed is a document (not a bunch of posts) that details how to cook a ROM step by step inlcuding pictures, how to add programs, remove programs, update the registry, links to things needed like a vanilla rom, patches to problems, enhancements, etc.
Well that's my wishful thinking and hoping someone will step up to the challenge to make life much easier for many of us.
kmann said:
Alright maybe the term Idiots is not correct - some of us like me don't have time to troll though every thread/post and pick out all the details so I have a request for some kind hearted knowledgeable person.
What's needed is a document (not a bunch of posts) that details how to cook a ROM step by step inlcuding pictures, how to add programs, remove programs, update the registry, links to things needed like a vanilla rom, patches to problems, enhancements, etc.
Well that's my wishful thinking and hoping someone will step up to the challenge to make life much easier for many of us.
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~Have you not looked around, you have two kitchens for roms, and both have good, Step by step guilds!!!
Look at my sig for one!
Yes I have
I have looked around and as you read through the post there seem to be many pieces that are missing and information that has to be dug out of the individual posts and other threads to get a complete picuture. It would just be nice to have it all in one place/document.
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I have looked around and as you read through the post there seem to be many pieces that are missing and information that has to be dug out of the individual posts and other threads to get a complete picuture. It would just be nice to have it all in one place/document.
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Have you read the PDF doc in Funman's sig??? That has exactly what you are looking for. Nothing bad, but if you can't follow that guide, you aren't ready to be cooking. Its step by step, what tools to use, etc.
Thanks!
Ok, maybe the term idiot does apply, somehow I missed the PDF and have only been looking though post. Thanks!
If gets difficult sometimes when you have limited time and have to read through hundreds of post.
kmann said:
Ok, maybe the term idiot does apply, somehow I missed the PDF and have only been looking though post. Thanks!
If gets difficult sometimes when you have limited time and have to read through hundreds of post.
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Thats ok!!! LOL
UPDATES: WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN HERE!!!
This enitre section has been dedicated to you, and getting you the help and information you need! For that reason, it is only right that you all have a say in what you would like to see happen here.
From changes in the rules, to specific info, IT IS ALL UP TO YOU!!! Myself, and the other members who dedicate there time here, are constantly trying to come up with new ideas and ways to make this section better for you. So give us a hand, and you will get what you want.
This is not another thread where you ideas and comments will just be looked over. All of you requested the ability to open your own thread, and you got it. Now what else do you want to see happen here? Looking forward to seeing your ideas!!!
**ONCE YOUR POST HAS BEEN READ, IT MAY BE REMOVED. THIS IS NOT BECAUSE YOUR IDEA OR COMMENT IS NOT BEING WORKED ON AND CONSIDERED. THIS IS SIMPLY TO ENSURE THAT ALL IDEAS WILL BE SEEN AND NOT LOST IN PAGE AFTER PAGE OF POSTS!! EACH IDEA OR COMMENT WILL BE COPIED TO ALL MODERATORS AND MEMBERS WHO WORK ON THIS SECTION. WE WILL THEN TRY OUR BEST TO FULFILL YOUR REQUEST!!
As a noob with an interest in this I would like to see an area where some steps are given to get us started. I don't learn too well by reading, and prefer to see some examples.
An example would be a screen shot of some code, along with what it does and why it does it.
Maybe if someone is feeling extra adventurous, some 'hands on' tests could be posted, starting with easy, small basic apps going up to fixing issues on the latest ROM.
I have gone through google and most places seem to assume that there is already some basic knowledge acquired. I have no knowledge but a strong interest.
Right now it seems like a huge undertaking, but with people posting new software, fixes, ROM's etc in a short period of time I am beginning to believe it is more about understanding concepts than learning a complete new way of thinking.
How did you guys start? What were your first steps? What help would you give your best friend if they wanted to start writing apps and cooking ROM's?
I appreciate all you guys do, and the help I have got from this site over the last few months has been immense. I want some advice on how I can give something back.
Posted this on Android Forums, figured I'd post it here for anyone that needs it!
I've been seeing a lot of users new to emulators in general having no idea where to begin, and me, watching for updates, also saw a lot of unhappy users not able to get it set up. I love gaming and figured others new to the emulator / android scene could use a little help. So i created this guide. I have it on google docs. and also uploaded it to media-fire as a pdf.
I feel if more people understood how it works, and get it running, they would stop yelling and flaming the developer, all thats going to do is discourage him and make him stop supporting PSX4Droid!!
Constructive ideas are welcome!
Feel free to spread this around if needed, as long as credit is given.
Complete PSX4Droid Guide!!!
PSX4DroidGuide Google Docs
PSX4DROIDGuide.zip
Thanks alot. i am a total noob to this and appreciate this.
Not a prob man.
Let me know if you still have any questions when you're done
Hey
I highly recommend removing the link to the BIOS file from your document. This only leads to trouble/post locking/problems from Sony. They really are that anal about it.
Kudos for the excellent guide though.
Good Call, I've seen it in a few other guides, but if this guide gets around to the majority of the users, then i could see Sony flagging it.
I left it in the bios section but removed the direct download in the step by step.
If it becomes a problem I'll remove that too.
thanks im going to try this out.
awesome
this guide has helped alot in configuring psx4droid
Droid Incredible Dev Community and Users,
First off, I know this is in the wrong section. But this is the section where I've been such a jerk, so I feel that I should post this here.
Second, I just wanted to apologize the community in general, Nils and Incubus in particular, for the possessiveness of my work.
Android was really important to me; I took everything so seriously. But now that I'm taking a little break and slowing things down, I see that Android shouldn't be so important to me. Why NOT let someone else use my files?
Sure, XDA forums has rules governing the usage of another's work, but I took the words literally. I didn't think about the spirit that lay behind those rules, the spirit of an open community that shared everything.
This is all a bit mish-mash, as I just fried my brain writing my English paper, but I hope my point is clear enough: I'm sorry.
In the interest of sharing (and not getting banned / warned) I've decided to attach a semi-ported DInc HtcMusic that reads EMMC. The left button FCs, and after checking the logcat I don't understand why (There's some error about "cannot open X resource," but in the smali, that resource is never called...). This is a port to the many DZ ROMs, and should work, as long as no deep deep framework mods were done.
Enjoy, and I apologize again,
-g
Besides posting in the wrong section, please describe what else you are sorry about.
Awesome
I figure i will reply to this.
I appoligize for not taking the correct steps in using your jars. I probably would have been upset myself.
Let me just say that you have done an excellent job here and I hope to work with you in the future for the sake of the community.
Peace,
Incubus
Great minds think alike. Good stuff.
You may just be a junior in high-school, but you're proving yourself as a mature adult.
No apology necessary.
We just had a difference of opinion on what the forum rules are. I took a more liberal view of the rule:
Stealing=Bad
Sharing=Good
Now posting your efforts on this are good. I will give it a shot and see if anything jumps out at me.
Thanks
Well, I concur that for a fact it is seeing the EMMC since a couple of songs I use for testing are on the internal and do show and play.
I see the error you see but can't track it in the app code either. My guess is that somewhere else it is setting up a call to file manager or something like that and the expected info or link is not there when you press the list function.
Looks pretty good liking the emmc hack in Uber z a bit better though, honestly
Sent from my Uber Incredible
I sent a pm to one of our mods asking if we can get the sticky threads cleaned up. By this I mean unsticky some of the ones that are outdated and no longer maintained by current users of this device.
Im basing this on my own ideas and this post by FB.
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Solrac, it might be better if you would concentrate your efforts on updating our wiki since some information has already been repeated a few times, particularly the roms list. If you wind up putting them in the wiki then other users can edit it once you decide to not update this thread. I've seen it happen to at least two other threads already which is why team acid have moved some of our instructions to the wiki.
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We have so much stuff stickied in the general sub that is out of date. In the development sub there is a couple threads that are no longer maintained.
My question is do you agree we need some of these threads removed from the list of stickies? Ill have a poll please select agree or disagree. If you want to post a response please do, but lets keep this civil aight?
Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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I know im new here and all, but I have checked the wiki out and to be honest I think its lacking a little... Like I said in new, and I only say this because in the wiki for ppl that are just rooting there phone the only suggestion is heimdall....well that I disagree with, cuz heimdall isnt the only way...all those one click roots like heimdall and super Didnt work for me either... I did it all through odin...I just think the options should be more that just one... But please understand im not trying to make waves, other than that issue I think it great and very informative...
I also would like to say that the devs and and a lot of members here are a great help here and I know im not alone when I say thank you.
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I know im new here and all, but I have checked the wiki out and to be honest I think its lacking a little... Like I said in new, and I only say this because in the wiki for ppl that are just rooting there phone the only suggestion is heimdall....well that I disagree with, cuz heimdall isnt the only way...all those one click roots like heimdall and super Didnt work for me either... I did it all through odin...I just think the options should be more that just one... But please understand im not trying to make waves, other than that issue I think it great and very informative...
I also would like to say that the devs and and a lot of members here are a great help here and I know im not alone when I say thank you.
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Looks like it's time for YOU to edit the wiki and add a guide that works for you.
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Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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I have thought about making a update guide like the bible thread but every time I start I have never finished. Im not fond of the wiki for some of the reasons twisted spoke about, however it can be useful.
Is there a person that is notified when edits are made? So we can make sure the proper info is put on it? Ive never paid enough attention to that aspect.
There's a history option in the wiki that lets you view the latest edits, and see what exactly go changed. (It's up top in the navigation)
The thing is that the lack of information can be addressed by adding it. Twisted said there were no Odin guides, well we can add them. There's no real reason why we shouldn't be using it. I know everyone wants to start their thread with their guide on how to do things their way, but there has to be an accepted method of doing things. I've written up a few of the guides on the Wiki but then someone else comes along and improves it with a better method that is more up to date. That's how it should be, you don't have to go to MY thread to try and edit it or try to get me to update it. You can just go in and do it yourself.
Fb... I really didnt mean to cause wave bro, but to be honest I dont know which links I used to root my phone... I look tomorrow at my downloads and see which ones I used, but I do know that I tried alot of different ways so it might take me a minute to find it all... But like I said it was informative and im not taking way from the concept of it cuz I think it would be easier for new ppl trying to root there phone... There is just a lot of info out there that isnt in the wiki...
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Fb... I really didnt mean to cause wave bro, but to be honest I dont know which links I used to root my phone... I look tomorrow at my downloads and see which ones I used, but I do know that I tried alot of different ways so it might take me a minute to find it all... But like I said it was informative and im not taking way from the concept of it cuz I think it would be easier for new ppl trying to root there phone... There is just a lot of info out there that isnt in the wiki...
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You're completely missing the point.
Let me make it easier.
If info is not in wiki, put info in wiki.
I agree about the cleanup but Who is to stop the trolls from updating the wiki with bad info I mean someone could of been offended by another user and think I will change the wiki and put harmful material or instructions just to mess up People phones. There should be Some checks and balance of the info that has been updated
Sent from my SGH-T959V using XDA
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I agree about the cleanup but Who is to stop the trolls from updating the wiki with bad info I mean someone could of been offended by another user and think I will change the wiki and put harmful material or instructions just to mess up People phones. There should be Some checks and balance of the info that has been updated
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No one can stop another user/troll from putting bad, offensive, or just plan misinformation out there. The maintenance of the wiki is a community effort. Thus we are all responsible for updating it and cleaning it up.
I do like the idea of checks and balances, though. What we need for that effort are maintainers. On top of the community making updates we could have a few people that collaborate to help keep the wiki clean, up to date, etc. The trick would be getting volunteers for Team Wiki (wicked? Wikid! lol) that can put the time and effort into the moderation of the wiki.
Just my 2ȼ.
Nvm, just checked the wiki and it has either been updated or i was blind before, cuz everything i used is in the wiki...
. I'm glad you see that. If someone updates it and starts screwing with the wiki a moderator can always step in. It's basically like the forums, we can't stop you from posting, but once you've posted something that you shouldn't have, we can remove it. We can do the same on the wiki, it keeps track of the edit history, we can always revert to a good version.
Check out this nice list of ROMs available for our phone. It's the most up to date one (thanks to solrac who just updated the list of custom mtd roms portion)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/List_of_ROMs
Thanks FB that was what I was wanting to know. I have the same reservations as anonymous and Stephen. Ive seen wikipedia edited and things slipped until somebody caught it.
Ive spoke with TRusselo and if we can come up with a list of the threads that need to be cleaned and unstuck he is willing to look into is. However since he doesnt own the phone he did not want to jump in unstickying threads willy nilly. I had planned on posting earlier today but I spent a good part of my day fixing bicycles so I can take my kiddo bike riding.
Ill be out most of tomorrow but Ill try to post my list sometime and if any of you want to also suggest it would be great. My thinking is we can always link to the threads via the wiki and maybe create a new version of the bible thread and the FAQ thread Mr. Clown created.
If you want to make suggestions please list which sub the thread is in and the thread name no need to link it. The final list will have links when I submit it to TRusselo.
Well I can say once this idea is completed it will be a lot more user friendly...
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General Sub
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122508
Froyo flashing guide not really needed since we are on GB, CM7, and now CM9.
Most of the information in this thread is general rules and mostly common sense.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235789
This one too has some forum rules and common sense stuff posted. Maybe condense it with the one above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310270
This one is a PSA and again something that is part of the main rules.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195027
This one is very informative but maybe when Juls updates it he can post it on the wiki.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480418
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Q & A sub
This is a old guide that has since been changed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215748
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Development Sub
Since this thread is very out of date it needs to be unstuck. Most information in this thread has changed and is no longer relevant.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554
This thread the info is out of date. The second post is useful but the first one is out of date.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979109
This one if we get official support of RM it will be outdated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305560
All of the above is open for suggestions or even tell me certain threads need to stay as stickies. Im just looking to trim the sticky list down.
I was also thinking each sub could have a thread that has links to the wiki for things. That way even if the person that creates it leaves and never comes back the wiki links will be the same. Then the threads can be linked on the wiki and if a thread is out dated it can be removed from the wiki.
Looks like good suggestions so far.
As far as recreating the bible thread, we can easily do that in the wiki. The roms portion is pretty much set except for roms that haven't been released yet.
The dev stickies are definitely the ones we should get rid of. right now we have 6 stickied threads. They take up a lot of room before getting to the latest content from dev threads.
I agree with creating a bible in the wiki, I was suggesting linking to it in a sticky. I tend to have a hard time expressing my thoughts in few words. I mean you have read some of my posts .
Anybody have any objections to the lists I have above?
Eollie if you want make a stickie of the rom wiki because I always update this wiki
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Anybody have any objections to the lists I have above?
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I have not yet had an opportunity to look through your list. Seems FB read through it and I know I trust his opinion. I will look through it later. Thanks for taking the time to get this going.