SenseTime software built into more than 100 million mobile devices - Security Discussion

[...] world’s biggest system of surveillance: if you’ve ever been photographed with a Chinese-made phone or walked the streets of a Chinese city, chances are your face has been digitally crunched by SenseTime software built into more than 100 million mobile devices.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...ibaba-funding-at-a-record-3-billion-valuation
Anyone here that has not been photographed with a Chinese-made phone, yet? I feel bad for the people living there.

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Help With Homework Please Gents...

It's a little more than homework, but thanks guys for taking a look.
I'm doing my AS-level Applied ICT exam in on the 30th of April, and we are told one of the questions so we can research it beforehand.
The question is:
Several of the directors and managers of Logos R Us (which is the company being spoken about) spend a lot of time away from head office.
Carry out some research and produce a word-processed report for the Managing Director. Your report must evaluate the impact on Logos R Us and its directors and managers of providing them with mobile devices. Briefly evaluate the method(s) you used to complete this report.
The work you produce for this task must not exceed 500 words, including the evaluation of the methods you used.
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Logos R Us is a company that sells a wide range of clothing embroidered with customer-supplied logos. The range includes uniforms for schools and other organisations, sports clothing for teams and clubs, and merchandising items, such as polo shirts or sweatshirts, for events. The company has a head office, a warehouse and an embroidery workshop. The head office is on a business park while the warehouse and embroidery workshop are on an industrial site some distance away. The clothing is made by a number of outside manufacturers, both in the UK and overseas.
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The company itself is only small with limited money to spend on mobile devices.
I'm not asking anyone to do this for me, but i was thinking i could compare BlackBerry's to Windows Mobile phones, because our teacher said it'd be a good idea to talk about smartphones.
I've done a little research, and can conclude that it's Windows all way! I think BlackBerry's need their own server to run on, and are obviously limited in places where Windows isn't (for example each OS is slightly different so software isn't entirely universal).....But for the business, any guidance with what points to make about each would be great.
Thanks guys.

Epic win! Android is now #1 smartphone platform in the US!

Canalys Q2 2010 smartphone market share figures are out: http://www.canalys.com/pr/2010/r2010081.html
According to them, Android is now the number one smartphone platform in the US, with 34% market share vs. RIM's 32% and Apple's 21.7%.
Worldwide, Android sales grew 886% from last year.
Worldwide Android sales numbers were not disclosed, but the 886% growth suggests 9.7 million Android devices sold (up from 1.1 million in Q2 2009), vs. Apple's 8.7 million iPhones, which would put Android in third place behind Nokia with 38% worldwide market share and RIM with 18%.
According to Google, 160,000 Android devices are now activated each day, which add up to over 15 million devices per quarter. Thus, we could see worldwide Android market share surpassing RIM's within a few months and even approaching Nokia.
HTC is also a big winner with 14% of the US smartphone market, only behind RIM (32.1%) and Apple (21.7%).
I understand that Windows Mobile is declining, but I wonder why it wasn't even mentioned. Also, why was HTC listed when they are just a hardware manufacturer?
Because the top three hardware manufacturers have been mentioned and HTC is number three:
RIM 32.1%
Apple 21.7%
HTC 14%
Windows Mobile has fallen too far behind.
windows mobile is not a hardware manufacturer
Are these figures only indicative of 2010 Q2? I'm curious what would the figures be if they included all old devices still in use. Would Android still be #1?
No, not yet. But sales numbers are more important, the give you an idea how many people will use it in the future.
FWIW, here's an article that lists statistics for marketshare of all existing devices.
http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/android-wins-battle-iphone-still-winning-war/2010-08-05
The future is looking good for Android. It's interesting what a rapid decline there has been for WinMo. I feel like Windows Phone 7 will be too little, too late to save WinMo, especially with the lack of backwards compatibility. BlackBerry is still #1. It's the one smartphone platform I've never tried, though the hardware and screenshots have never looked impressive enough for me to even consider it.
Blackberry is only good if your company uses the blackberry servers for email, other than that, the only nice thing I can say about them is that they have nice keyboards. Horrid web browser, though.
In that case, I'd never bother with Blackberry because web browsing is what I use my phone for most.
FWIW, here's an article that lists statistics for marketshare of all existing devices.
http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/android-wins-battle-iphone-still-winning-war/2010-08-05
The future is looking good for Android. It's interesting what a rapid decline there has been for WinMo. I feel like Windows Phone 7 will be too little, too late to save WinMo, especially with the lack of backwards compatibility.
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couldn't have said it better.
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wish people would stop refering to windows 7 phone as "winmo". The only simularities are that its made by Microsoft. Pretty much totaly diferent. WinMo sadly is dead. Win 7, totaly new and nothing like Winmo.
edit: btw, iPhone sales dropped coz of people waiting for iPhone 4 I would imagine
Monty Burns said:
wish people would stop refering to windows 7 phone as "winmo". The only simularities are that its made by Microsoft. Pretty much totaly diferent. WinMo sadly is dead. Win 7, totaly new and nothing like Winmo.
edit: btw, iPhone sales dropped coz of people waiting for iPhone 4 I would imagine
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To correct your post yes WM is dead,,, just like XP. And in your edit I believe you mean phone sales dropped coz of people waiting for the iphone 4 to be fixed.
Monty Burns said:
one sales dropped coz of people waiting for iPhone 4 I would imagine
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thats true , i dunno why ppl tend to not use their brain ...
maxpower097 said:
To correct your post yes WM is dead,,, just like XP. And in your edit I believe you mean phone sales dropped coz of people waiting for the iphone 4 to be fixed.
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no, i mean why would people buy a 3gs when a mystery new super phone was due to be released by Apple (the 4). I think the survey is based on statistics pre-iPhone 4 launch.
I actually doubt the Antenagate saga has had any real affect on iPhone 4 sales. I know of at least two people who bought it even though they knew about the reception issues.
No, Monty, the first week of iPhone 4 sales is included and as we know, half of the iPhone 4's first months sales happened in the first week.
Apple announced that they sold 3 million iPhones in the 21 days after the iPhone 4 launch.
That's 143,000 a day. And that includes the launch days, where ten times more iPhones are sold than on normal days.
There are 200,000 Android phones sold each day and that number is increasing fast.
Fair enough, then its probably as good a representation as we will ever get.
Fermat said:
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There are 200,000 Android phones sold each day and that number is increasing fast.
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I doubt that figure! At that rate there won't be much of the planet in 5 years that won't have an Android phone!!! Seriously, there is no way that rate of sale can or will be sustained, can there???
Monty Burns said:
Fair enough, then its probably as good a representation as we will ever get.
I doubt that figure! At that rate there won't be much of the planet in 5 years that won't have an Android phone!!! Seriously, there is no way that rate of sale can or will be sustained, can there???
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double post, lag.....
Monty Burns said:
Fair enough, then its probably as good a representation as we will ever get.
I doubt that figure! At that rate there won't be much of the planet in 5 years that won't have an Android phone!!! Seriously, there is no way that rate of sale can or will be sustained, can there???
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Easily. world population is in the billions. Thats just selling 28,000 units a day per continent. Thats 146,000,000 phones in 2 years. Way less then the population of adult americans. Then figure most people buy a new phone every 2 years. I'd say that number has a big chance of growing higher.
Your making some assumptions (and getting some stuff wrong).
There are between 5 and 7 Continents of the world.
http://www.countriesandcities.com/continents/
Second, your assuming everyone in the world can afford/choose to afford a new phone. Can you guess two countries where the majority of populations may not care about a new mobile? Not dificult, just work out two of the most populated countries on the planet (most of the cheap sh*t is made in them) -
Clues:
Chi... population of Chi...
Indi...Population of Indi..
So, out of around 7 billion, your down a significant portion. Now we also need to include Africa. And then not everyone in the UK will want a smartphone (and I imagine the same for every other "first world" country)
Remember, I also said "Choose". Many of my work collegues are still walking around with real simple mobiles because, and lets be real honest here, battery life on smartphones stinks. They will easily get a full week (including talking) on one charge. No smartphone will do that.
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sorry, clarification, ofc I mean population being poor not the goverments of the countries. I don't think anyone in any sane state would accuse China's goverment of being poor!
I also doubt that 50% of Americans will have Android phones in 2 years (Population of USA (estimated) to be 310mi)
Hopefully I can tinker with a newer android device, and have it work better. Like so many things the iFAIL (any of apples products really) is one of those trendy things that even a monkey could use.
But like the RIM software I dispised the first gen android os. Altho, I would take a crackberry any day over an iFAIL. WM powered devices I have had the most success with. I can definitely see why android is such a huge hit, especialyl since a lot of providers are offering lower priced Android devices vs the apple i FAIL, which is CANNOT be covered by insurance for physical damage or loss.

HTC infringes 2 Apple patents, could see all Android devices banned

Specifically, the judge found that HTC infringes patents 5,946,647 and 6,343,263. The first relates to receiving information that can then be used by a single interaction from the user, e.g. receiving a phone number, automatically highlighting it, and tapping the screen to call. The second relates to the processing of real-time data on a handset.
The issue this causes is much bigger than just impacting sales of HTC device as the patents relate to Android, not just HTC hardware. If the ruling stands, then Apple could quite rightly go after every manufacturer that uses Android, be it a smartphone or a tablet, and demand their device be banned from sale in the U.S. In effect, Apple would stop Android in its tracks and remove its biggest competitor from the field of play.
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http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...ould-see-all-android-devices-banned-20110716/
great, american consumers will be stuck with smuggled android devices.
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Will Apple get the ban hammer someday?
Apple has lost the race to android so now they are suing every android maker
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cdesai said:
Apple has lost the race to android so now they are suing every android maker
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Precisely. It's funny that they have the nerve to do this, when many "new" features of iOS5 are clear rip-offs of Android features.
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Ginosaji said:
Most of these patents are a blatant exploit of the system. I wouldn't be surprised if most, if not all of them are thrown out.
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Indeed these patents have only a few years left in them, yet for the first one loads of phones and computer programs have incorporated text recognition and processing, yet I don't recall Apple getting uppety about it.
technology will be slow if all patent not colaborate
mr.hary said:
technology will be slow if all patent not colaborate
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Only in America, for Americans. The rest of the world doesn't have this problem with idiot patents grabbing "ownership" of massively vague concepts. It's not really a problem for the rest of us, America is just a small corner of the worldwide market.
great,,,,,,,,,...
MAD I tell you!
If Apple were to get Android banned, I would imagine Google will fight back by removing all their apps from iOS.
There goes Google maps, youtube, and gmail.
We would live in the smartphone dark ages.
bleach168 said:
MAD I tell you!
If Apple were to get Android banned, I would imagine Google will fight back by removing all their apps from iOS.
There goes Google maps, youtube, and gmail.
We would live in the smartphone dark ages.
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I don't see that happening. If anything, Apple will license their products to Google for a fee or Google will pay royalties. That is if anything comes of it.
Apple is pushing too hard.
These are normal things, which everyone uses, has used and will use. All droid companies gotta do is bring up a small update for the call thing and then smear it in apple's face, idk about second one though.
This is no way near to banning androids all over usa, indeed apple just changes a few things, while using android stuff.
They have been holding out on new iphone, probably cause of this patent thing.
Android made it through the multi touch patent, this should be a piece of cake.
hateem said:
Apple is pushing too hard.
These are normal things, which everyone uses, has used and will use. All droid companies gotta do is bring up a small update for the call thing and then smear it in apple's face, idk about second one though.
This is no way near to banning androids all over usa, indeed apple just changes a few things, while using android stuff.
They have been holding out on new iphone, probably cause of this patent thing.
Android made it through the multi touch patent, this should be a piece of cake.
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There hasn't been anything done by Apple on the multi-touch capacitive mobile display tech yet. Apple was just awarded the patent last month. In all likelihood Apple will wait to see what happens with all of its current litigation before determining what to do with its nuclear bomb.
Apple will never be able to put a finger on with the current models. Probably a royalty.
I was under the misinformation that apple got the patent a year ago.
'Apple was just awarded the patent last month.'
I am sure there is a law that stops patented technology from going forward against the technology which is present at that time
Actually doesn't iOS already steal Android's notification system? Hahahaha...
popular products never actually get banned from sale. What actually happens is that the parties agree to a match of chess after they get bored of the court, and the lower pays the winner a random amount of money.
hateem said:
Apple will never be able to put a finger on with the current models. Probably a royalty.
I was under the misinformation that apple got the patent a year ago.
I am sure there is a law that stops patented technology from going forward against the technology which is present at that time
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Apple applied for the patent around the time the first iPhone came out, about 3 years ago. The government just now found time to award it to them. I guess it took the government 3 years to study its validity.
I think Apple just wants some money - royalties - from HTC (or Samsung... or any other manufacturer).
There would be a big backlash against Apple if they were able to ban any android devices from the United States.
It's all about the money.
FloatingFatMan said:
Only in America, for Americans. The rest of the world doesn't have this problem with idiot patents grabbing "ownership" of massively vague concepts. It's not really a problem for the rest of us, America is just a small corner of the worldwide market.
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That's why I love my dear Brazil... ahh soooo great! haha

Microsoft tracking us - a lawsuit at hand

Story says MS is tracking WP7 users through their WP7 phones. If you have nothing to hide, don't worry. Maybe it will save your life someday.
http://gizmodo.com/5836713/lawsuit-...cking-every-windows-phone-even-if-you-opt-out
z33dev33l said:
The lawsuit is because the lady cut off the GPS settings and feels shes still being tracked by the camera app.
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Wow... I'm glad I keep mine in a pouch when I'm not using it. I'd hate for them to see me scratching me arse.
So wait she 'feels' like she's being tracked by the camera app? Is there any proof of it?
is this really surprising?
does anyone really think Microsoft values its users' privacy any more than the other big players?
that people believe these giants (el goog, MSFT, Apple - ANY business today that wants to be effective in this evolving marketing landscape) give two ****s about their users' privacy or security is comical.
get used to being monitored one way or another... it doesn't matter what search engine you use, what operating system you use, which mobile phone you have: you are being cataloged, researched and categorized with every action you take over the air. there is no way around it. that's the world we live in today, and it will only become more integral as technology continues to develop and businesses continue to seek new ways to reach their target markets.
don't mistake this for a tin foil hat post, I'm just sick of people running around acting like Google and Apple are the only companies in the world that "research" their customers via probing. they all do it. why is this shocking to anyone? take off the rose tinted spectacles, folks...
pmcqueen said:
is this really surprising?
does anyone really think Microsoft values its users' privacy any more than the other big players?
that people believe these giants (el goog, MSFT, Apple - ANY business today that wants to be effective in this evolving marketing landscape) give two ****s about their users' privacy or security is comical.
get used to being monitored one way or another... it doesn't matter what search engine you use, what operating system you use, which mobile phone you have: you are being cataloged, researched and categorized with every action you take over the air. there is no way around it. that's the world we live in today, and it will only become more integral as technology continues to develop and businesses continue to seek new ways to reach their target markets.
don't mistake this for a tin foil hat post, I'm just sick of people running around acting like Google and Apple are the only companies in the world that "research" their customers via probing. they all do it. why is this shocking to anyone? take off the rose tinted spectacles, folks...
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They would if it was Apple. Apple haters fine comb the world to find stuff to hate on Apple for. Some of them even manufacture issues with Apple so they can spew their hate and discontent.
All companies are the same. If Google was were Apple is, they would be doing the same thing. This goes for all other companies as well. Even the US government is getting into the suing business. They're suing companies and institutions right and left. It's "sue" pandemonium these days...like a carnival. I watched a "Sliders" show once, a very long time ago, where they slid into an alternate Earth were everybody was suing everybody else just for looking at someone crosseyed. Planet Earth seems to have slid right into the same episode as that Sliders one.
pmcqueen said:
I'm just sick of people running around acting like Google and Apple are the only companies in the world that "research" their customers via probing. they all do it.
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I know they do this kind of "research", and I know I'm watched everywhere everyday by cctv or whatever. But I just want to know how they do this, in what kind of conditions and by what tools. So I can make myself as best as possible.
z33dev33l said:
The lawsuit is because the lady cut off the GPS settings and feels shes still being tracked by the camera app.
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Which from the look of the articles it is tracking users.
Though I don't remember this properly but once Google automatically deleted a particular malware from all of it's affected android handsets without notifying them first.
In the end, this may have been for the betterment of the users. But if this is where Google sets the line, I'm against it. This is violation of privacy.
As for Microsoft, this was no different.
Did he really just say if Google was where Apple was at? Really? Last time i checked Google has passed Apple in well almost everything.
PharmCAT said:
*tin foil hat*
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Made my day +1 this is why i prefer my android
Lolol, read the comment. Atleast no one bought it. #yourtoeasytoloveMS.
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[Discussion] XDA blocked in Iran

from two days ago xda forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com) blocked in Iran!!!!!
Can anybody say me why!? Is there any sexual or political thread here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Iran
Huh? Thats odd
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I hope that is a temporary issue that will be dealed with soon.
Iran has plans in the near future to completely disconnect themselves from the global internet and replace it with a heavily censored state intranet. Perhaps they're starting to block off resources that can teach people ways to circumvent internet technologies.
sreza said:
Iran has plans in the near future to completely disconnect themselves from the global internet and replace it with a heavily censored state intranet. Perhaps they're starting to block off resources that can teach people ways to circumvent internet technologies.
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that's quite likely, although perhaps a blanket distrust of Western internet sites is the other possibility.
Sounds like a right proper pain to folk in Iran.
Maybe because filters blocked it by accident? I, live in Oman and Internet service is crappie -They blocked Google and it's services by accident and it lasted for 3-4 days.
interiesting
sreza said:
Iran has plans in the near future to completely disconnect themselves from the global internet and replace it with a heavily censored state intranet. Perhaps they're starting to block off resources that can teach people ways to circumvent internet technologies.
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it's incredible that in 2012 there are things like this --'
Casi92 said:
it's incredible that in 2012 there are things like this --'
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Sadly, there are still worse places than this, like North Korea. As far as these countries are concerned, the Enlightenment never happened.
At some point in time blame ultimately shifts from the oppressor to the people that allow themselves to be oppressed.
I know Turkey blocked youtube back few years ago(for sure atleast a year)... not sure if its still blocked though
85gallon said:
At some point in time blame ultimately shifts from the oppressor to the people that allow themselves to be oppressed.
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In the case of North Korea, the situation is called a "cult of personality". Their -religion- is the worship of the rulers, and the state media does a very good job of preventing the people from realizing the advances that have taken place in the rest of the world over the past 40 years. They honestly don't know any better.
In Iran however, the people aren't being oppressed by the ruling class. They are actually actively oppressing themselves. They have access to the internet, and they are appalled by how liberal the rest of the world is. As the American Dad episode shows, the men are quite happy with the status quo, and the women are stoned to death for raising any protest. They have democratic elections the same as us, with 48 million registered voters, and the voting isn't particularly rigged either. The trouble is that they live in a society with Bronze Age ethics.
Hell, the most passionate advocates for covering women's faces and genital mutilation are the women themselves, who feel it's the only way to keep themselves from being raped (and then stoned to death for committing "adultery") or from being unable to be considered marriageable.

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