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Hello everybody, I notice lately my phone is losing about 10 percent battery life every 2 hours while it is idle. The funny thing is I have data off no text message and made one phone call. I don’t know what’s going on. I am running stock.
The Newest apps I downloaded were comicbook reader, Spotify and Netflix, but that shouldn’t matter right? Because my mobile data is off
that sounds about average to me. since its stock, i would just put Juice Defender on it and leave it set to "balanced", then see where youre at battery wise.
additionally, you could try Watchdog to see if theres any background apps that are consuming a ton of cpu(it can happen)
voxigenboy said:
that sounds about average to me. since its stock, i would just put Juice Defender on it and leave it set to "balanced", then see where youre at battery wise.
additionally, you could try Watchdog to see if theres any background apps that are consuming a ton of cpu(it can happen)
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Thanks alot man..will get those apps and report back in a few days
Funny thing is this seems like its just started out of nowhere. I had my phone since launch and never had this problem.
mbrown3460 said:
Funny thing is this seems like its just started out of nowhere. I had my phone since launch and never had this problem.
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do you ever charge your phone in your car?
i know when you charge it via a wall charger or your PC, there's overcharge protection so realistically you can leave it "plugged in" as long as you'd like.
apparently though, if it gets fully charged and you still leave it plugged in in your car it can eventually do some damage to the battery and eventually kill it.
i had that happen to my old Galaxy S 4G & when i went to get a new battery they confirmed that that was the culprit.
You need to go into settings/ power/ and uncheck fast reboot . It runs all the time and eats up battery.
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voxigenboy said:
do you ever charge your phone in your car?
i know when you charge it via a wall charger or your PC, there's overcharge protection so realistically you can leave it "plugged in" as long as you'd like.
apparently though, if it gets fully charged and you still leave it plugged in in your car it can eventually do some damage to the battery and eventually kill it.
i had that happen to my old Galaxy S 4G & when i went to get a new battery they confirmed that that was the culprit.
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no only charge my phone on the wall or PC. Wow I didnt know I can leave my phone plugged I thought my battery would be damaged if I left it plugged in.
jbh00jh said:
You need to go into settings/ power/ and uncheck fast reboot . It runs all the time and eats up battery.
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fast reboot is not checked in my settings.
phone idle isnt as important as the time it says it's without a signal. if you arent getting a signal, it's looking for one and really really draining the battery
yareally said:
phone idle isnt as important as the time it says it's without a signal. if you arent getting a signal, it's looking for one and really really draining the battery
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Yep TWS is the biggest culprit of battery drainage on these Android phones. If you're in a poor reception area, you're SOL because the phone will eat through the battery searching for a signal. I have an Epic and have similar battery drain issues due to this.
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phone idle isnt as important as the time it says it's without a signal. if you arent getting a signal, it's looking for one and really really draining the battery
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hmmm you might be on to something. Don't get good reception at home and my reception is ok at work, not perfect tho.
mbrown3460 said:
Hello everybody, I notice lately my phone is losing about 10 percent battery life every 2 hours while it is idle. The funny thing is I have data off no text message and made one phone call. I dont know whats going on. I am running stock.
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First, you should seriously consider rooting, then flash a custom rom & kernel. The stock rom is no battery sipper, and custom roms & kernels are much more efficient. I was getting ridiculous overnight drain (>20%) on stock, but now I'm getting only 1% per hour (6-8%). Also, grab Autostarts from the market. It prevents unnecessary apps from launching in the background & wasting battery (& memory)
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mbrown3460 said:
hmmm you might be on to something. Don't get good reception at home and my reception is ok at work, not perfect tho.
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It'll show in the about stats when you press on the phone usage stats how long it was without a signal if you want to look (in case you weren't aware). Also I would make sure your phone is set to use wifi when sleeping always and not mobile (under wifi settings → press menu → go to advanced).
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It'll show in the about stats when you press on the phone usage stats how long it was without a signal if you want to look (in case you weren't aware). Also I would make sure your phone is set to use wifi when sleeping always and not mobile (under wifi settings → press menu → go to advanced).
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My mobile data off when I'm at work. So pulled my phone off at 6 am, made one call, checked my email and now I'm down to 93 percent. This is just ridiculous seems like my battery getting worst by the day.
I'm at home now on WiFi...my mobile data is usually off all day at work. Watch dog only alerted me to dolphin browser and I always close that out when I'm finished. I don't know what's going on.
Why do I need to baby sit my phone to get good battery life?
voxigenboy said:
do you ever charge your phone in your car?
i know when you charge it via a wall charger or your PC, there's overcharge protection so realistically you can leave it "plugged in" as long as you'd like.
apparently though, if it gets fully charged and you still leave it plugged in in your car it can eventually do some damage to the battery and eventually kill it.
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This is not correct. The battery charge is controlled by the phone itself. the battery also has some electronics in it to limit the charge. The car charger provides 5 volts just like any USB port. You can (and I have) leave phone plugged into a car charger with no issues.
It is true that you should avoid charging the phone when it is HOT. So leaving it in a HOT car or any place HOT is a bad idea.
Checked the settings and my phone is using 3% battery life while it is idle. So I shouldn't be losing so much power. Is my battery damaged?
Yep, backing this guy up. The battery has it built in where it'll cut off the charge after it's full- and android has it that after it reaches 100% it'll let it drain down to ~90% because keeping it at 100% for extended periods of time is bad for the battery health.
For those more interested in your phone's battery and how charging works, check out this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
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If you're losing battery life when you're idle you have a few main reasons.
- First check to make sure you have a low min. set for your CPU, you don't want to have your CPU rev'd all the way up all the time- it's just not good.
- Download "spare parts" and check under "battery history" and you'll be able to see if you have a lot of GPS usage, data usage, CPU usage, etc.
- I'm not sure if mobile data turns both 4G and 3G off. I know the 4G here totally demolishes the battery, even more if you don't have it in your area.
If you don't have 4G and would like to save your battery from a painful death, do this (easy to change back)
*#*#4636#*#* -- Go to "Phone Settings" >> change to "CDMA auto (PRL)"
This will turn off 4G and stop it from searching, while still allowing you to use 3G and not have to turn off all data.
Hope at least one of those points helped you out and hope you get some better life because that's pretty bad, shouldn't be normal.
mbrown3460 said:
Hello everybody, I notice lately my phone is losing about 10 percent battery life every 2 hours while it is idle. The funny thing is I have data off no text message and made one phone call. I don’t know what’s going on. I am running stock.
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Losing 5%/hour is normal for my phone when it's sitting doing nothing. The battery is a joke. I have Juice Defender Ultimate and that brings it down to maybe 2-3%/hour.
My phone has been a lot lately, but only because of using the GPS, whether it's Google Maps or Waze. It gets warm over time if I'm just browsing through the internet or check social media. I take long drives to place to place often, but it gets annoying when it starts to overheat. I do charge it while I use the GPS, I put the brightness up to about half way so I can see the map, and I use a windshield mount for the phone. It hasn't gotten to the point where it overheats where I can't charge it or crashes. The hottest it has gotten to is between 115-125 F. Is there a way for it to keep it cooled down? I'm using the CarbonROM if that helps out.
kevintrann said:
My phone has been a lot lately, but only because of using the GPS, whether it's Google Maps or Waze. It gets warm over time if I'm just browsing through the internet or check social media. I take long drives to place to place often, but it gets annoying when it starts to overheat. I do charge it while I use the GPS, I put the brightness up to about half way so I can see the map, and I use a windshield mount for the phone. It hasn't gotten to the point where it overheats where I can't charge it or crashes. The hottest it has gotten to is between 115-125 F. Is there a way for it to keep it cooled down? I'm using the CarbonROM if that helps out.
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first off, are you talking about cpu temps or battery temp? for cpu, 115-125F is relatively cool. it overheats at 105C(221F).
simms22 said:
first off, are you talking about cpu temps or battery temp? for cpu, 115-125F is relatively cool. it overheats at 105C(221F).
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Sorry, battery temp
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Sorry, battery temp
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ok, 125F is a little warm for the battery, but still within the safe range. if your battery reaches 60C, which would be extremely rare, your phone will automatically power off(to cool off), as that is a safety feature to protect the battery from overheating.
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ok, 125F is a little warm for the battery, but still within the safe range. if your battery reaches 60C, which would be extremely rare, your phone will automatically power off(to cool off), as that is a safety feature to protect the battery from overheating.
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So the phone is absolutely fine until it reaches that point?
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So the phone is absolutely fine until it reaches that point?
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yup. technically its fine at that point as well(for short periods of time), but thats the point googles developers decided to be safe with. the only time i get my battey really hot is when im plugged in and playing a cpu intensive game or plugged in and streaming a movie. but that doesnt bother me, as in those situations it reaches the cpu safety limit of 105C(i disable thermal throttle, the first cpu temp safety) way before the battery gets too hot
I have a SM-N915K with OEM flip case. Battery life is incredibly low due to "Cocktailbar service" service eating 30-70% of the battery. The service listens to sensors and rotates the content of the edge screen probably. Anyone has the same problem? The problem can be related to the flip case use.
Cocktailbar Note Edge
I have the same issue... I figured it had something to do with the edge display but didn't tie it to the case... I'm going G to replace the back with the original battery door and see if that make difference. I'll post results tomorrow.
I use the flip case when I'm out but when I'm at home I use the regular back. The cocktailbarservice seems to be succking the life out of my battery. Went to bed at 95% and woke up at 68% while the phone sat idle. It is now 9:42 am and I have used the phone very little. I am at 37%. I love this phone but at this rate I can't even use it so I might have to return it if I can't find a fix. I'm lucky and have access to power supply most the time but this is ridiculous.
I did stop using the case for the weekend and the battery life on my phone has almost trippled! I took it off charge around 8 pm last night. Played with it intermittently until 2:30 am. Got up this morning around 9 am and still had 88% battery. Have been using it almost nonstop between calls, Internet and texts and am just now at 20%. 18.5 hours off the charger and only 6.5 of those were sleep time. If I can have this kind of battery on most days I will be happy. I am not running powersave during any of that time either. And since taking off the case, cocktailbarservice is not draining the battery. Unfortunately I have to have it in a case when in my purse, and I have two of them so I will be using the case most business days. Does anyone think it will mess up my battery to have it drain so much when using the case and then slow down drainage when I take the case off? I don't want to ruin my battery.
it was the Case
Yeah I had the same results. It definitely was the case for me too.... I have to wait till the come out with a holster or something cause I hate walking around with a naked phone.... Especially one that's $1k.....
Turning off the 'Style clock on edge screen' or limiting its duration (Edge screen > Information stream > 15 seconds) has helped my battery life. I don't think the issue is the flip case as much as it is the graphics that play on the edge screen every time the flip case is closed.
Engineer_03 said:
Turning off the 'Style clock on edge screen' or limiting its duration (Edge screen > Information stream > 15 seconds) has helped my battery life. I don't think the issue is the flip case as much as it is the graphics that play on the edge screen every time the flip case is closed.
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Didn't even think of that, thanks. I'll try and report back.
Blitzed26 said:
Didn't even think of that, thanks. I'll try and report back.
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Worked like a charm, thanks again!
Engineer_03 said:
Turning off the 'Style clock on edge screen' or limiting its duration (Edge screen > Information stream > 15 seconds) has helped my battery life. I don't think the issue is the flip case as much as it is the graphics that play on the edge screen every time the flip case is closed.
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I can confirm that this does the trick. I disabled the style clock, I am 6 hours in with everything on and 1 hour screen time, battery is at 79%. Thanks for the help.
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danjamand said:
I can confirm that this does the trick. I disabled the style clock, I am 6 hours in with everything on and 1 hour screen time, battery is at 79%. Thanks for the help.
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Had the same problem too and i notice it happen at night while i am asleep it could be the night clock and flip cover combination
that cause this drain. Also when i check the battery setting it shows com.android.keyguardcom.sec.android sviewcover taking up 33% ??? Its a flip case not a sview case. Can someone please advice thanks
audri5 said:
I did stop using the case for the weekend and the battery life on my phone has almost trippled! I took it off charge around 8 pm last night. Played with it intermittently until 2:30 am. Got up this morning around 9 am and still had 88% battery. Have been using it almost nonstop between calls, Internet and texts and am just now at 20%. 18.5 hours off the charger and only 6.5 of those were sleep time. If I can have this kind of battery on most days I will be happy. I am not running powersave during any of that time either. And since taking off the case, cocktailbarservice is not draining the battery. Unfortunately I have to have it in a case when in my purse, and I have two of them so I will be using the case most business days. Does anyone think it will mess up my battery to have it drain so much when using the case and then slow down drainage when I take the case off? I don't want to ruin my battery.
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Where did you get flip case? I want to get something for my Edge but none available in Australia, thanks.
Monster FG said:
Where did you get flip case? I want to get something for my Edge but none available in Australia, thanks.
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taobao.com
dennis nai said:
taobao.com
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tnx.
Monster FG said:
Where did you get flip case? I want to get something for my Edge but none available in Australia, thanks.
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I bought a black one here (US) at the T-Mobile store but I bought a white one for the same $38 with free shipping off of EBay. It came from Korea but it is an OEM case. This is a different seller but you could check out this link. http://www.ebay.com/itm/381075447098?redirect=mobile
guys I have question
On your OEM flip cover, when you enable the style clock does it show the right time when the phone time settings is set at AM/PM mode?
On my style clock the minutes hand shows correctly but the hour hand shows "0". I have tired all the style clock themes and all show this but when i change my phone's time settings to 24 hour clock it displays correctly...!!
Any help with this will be highly appricated
I never had this problem once I fix the cover and set the app it automatically set the right time...
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dennis nai said:
I never had this problem once I fix the cover and set the app it automatically set the right time...
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Strange why is it happening for me?
I have installed the case reboot the phone as well and for some reason the style clock hour hand shows "0" while the minutes hand is correct...
Is there some defect in my case maybe?? i dont think so since all other elements like screen auto off and the incoming call coming on the edge is all well ...
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Strange why is it happening for me?
I have installed the case reboot the phone as well and for some reason the style clock hour hand shows "0" while the minutes hand is correct...
Is there some defect in my case maybe?? i dont think so since all other elements like screen auto off and the incoming call coming on the edge is all well ...
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Do you mean on the edge panel? If it is 6:15 it will show 06:15. Does yours show 00:15? If so I would say the phone has a defect or maybe needs to be factory reset. Sorry if I am not understanding you correctly. Mine works as it should.
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Do you mean on the edge panel? If it is 6:15 it will show 06:15. Does yours show 00:15? If so I would say the phone has a defect or maybe needs to be factory reset. Sorry if I am not understanding you correctly. Mine works as it should.
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Instead of showing 06:15 it shows 0:15... Maybe I should do a factory reset.
BTW my 915G is rooted on stock firmware.
jagdesh said:
Strange why is it happening for me?
I have installed the case reboot the phone as well and for some reason the style clock hour hand shows "0" while the minutes hand is correct...
Is there some defect in my case maybe?? i dont think so since all other elements like screen auto off and the incoming call coming on the edge is all well ...
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Instead of showing 06:15 it shows 0:15... Maybe I should do a factory reset.
BTW my 915G is rooted on stock firmware.
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If that doesn't work you could try to exchange the phone. That seems to be a phone issue not related to the case.
Two Note Edge's here and both occasionally die before juice is completely depleted. One died at 16% and today mine had 8 percent and soon as I almost made it home I turned off ultra power saving mode and it just cut off. Tried to reboot but juice was gone. This started right after lollipop so I'm not sure if it's the update or batteries are already going bad. Do any of you guys think fast charging maybe kills battery faster?
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Two Note Edge's here and both occasionally die before juice is completely depleted. One died at 16% and today mine had 8 percent and soon as I almost made it home I turned off ultra power saving mode and it just cut off. Tried to reboot but juice was gone. This started right after lollipop so I'm not sure if it's the update or batteries are already going bad. Do any of you guys think fast charging maybe kills battery faster?
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after month i bought my note edge i use fast charging once.
i don't know its true or not but i think fast charging for daily use maybe damage the device because of high voltage.
if im wrong pls some one correct me !
parvizchitsaz said:
after month i bought my note edge i use fast charging once.
i don't know its true or not but i think fast charging for daily use maybe damage the device because of high voltage.
if im wrong pls some one correct me !
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Since it's advertised officially, I don't think it harms in anyway. besides if such a damage were to be caused, It would be hardware - (As if battery swollen, Battery warms up fast) , not software.
Most likely your cause is the infamous Google wakelock which is triggered randomly.
you can use calculin's fix to prevent it,, or like myself, if rooted, use appops to kill autorun of google playservices.
I've had issues like this on my older devices and wiping cache and dalvik helped me in my case. If you're not rooted, you can just wipe cache and see if it helps.
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I've had issues like this on my older devices and wiping cache and dalvik helped me in my case. If you're not rooted, you can just wipe cache and see if it helps.
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Dida factory reset to no change. I just try to not let my battery get lower than 20% now and carry my charger everywhere.
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Fast charge will stress your Battery more than normal charge. If you want a long life of your Battery, just charge it to only 80 or 85 percent. That will reduce the Chemical reaction in your Battery.
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JazonX said:
Since it's advertised officially, I don't think it harms in anyway. besides if such a damage were to be caused, It would be hardware - (As if battery swollen, Battery warms up fast) , not software.
Most likely your cause is the infamous Google wakelock which is triggered randomly.
you can use calculin's fix to prevent it,, or like myself, if rooted, use appops to kill autorun of google playservices.
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Wouldn't that cause some type of adverse effects? I'm concerned about my mornin' alarm.
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Wouldn't that cause some type of adverse effects? I'm concerned about my mornin' alarm.
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Alarm Manager service and Google services are two entirely different things, unless you're a Nexus.
I've been using XC for a month now. Battery Care worked only during the first few weeks and now it refuses to work anymore. For the past few days, I've been trying to figure out the cause. I even decompiled the APK and am studying the program logic. But I need some live data from working device to help me better understand. If your phone is rooted and Battery Care is working properly, please send me the following files to check. Hopefully the result will help to fix our problem regarding Battery Care. Thanks!
/data/data/com.sonymobile.smartcharger/databases/chargingInfo.db
/data/data/com.sonymobile.smartcharger/databases/chargingInfo.db-journal
/data/data/com.sonymobile.smartcharger/shared_prefs/SmartChargeData.xml
What is battery care? I'm root so if you tell me what I have to install, I can try if you want
Battery care works only if you are very consistent on your battery charge time. For example: If you charge your phone every day at 8pm and take of of charge at 6am battery care will remember it and activate automatically and will try manage your usage based on that time but if there will be discrepancies in charging time and usage and you are not consistent in your charging time battery care useless and will not work. Unless I am wrong on my statement and someone can tell otherwise.
I had the same issue, stopped working after the December update. Worked again in a week or so. Give it time and report back
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What is battery care? I'm root so if you tell me what I have to install, I can try if you want
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So do you see a message pop up every night when you plug your phone to the charger? If so then Battery Care should work properly. Then you can extract the above files using any root file manager.
Battery Care works by learning your charging pattern and avoid overcharging and thus prolong the battery life.
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Battery care works only if you are very consistent on your battery charge time. For example: If you charge your phone every day at 8pm and take of of charge at 6am battery care will remember it and activate automatically and will try manage your usage based on that time but if there will be discrepancies in charging time and usage and you are not consistent in your charging time battery care useless and will not work. Unless I am wrong on my statement and someone can tell otherwise.
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My charging pattern is very consistent. But when I browse the learning table created by Battery Care, it doesn't seem to learn properly at all. If you have Battery Care working, I appreciate if you could send me the above files to study.
itandy said:
My charging pattern is very consistent. But when I browse the learning table created by Battery Care, it doesn't seem to learn properly at all. If you have Battery Care working, I appreciate if you could send me the above files to study.
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I dont have smartcharge enabled all the time as my usage is always different but see if t can help
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I dont have smartcharge enabled all the time as my usage is always different but see if t can help
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Thanks! Your files definitely have lots of useful data for me to work on.
itandy said:
Thanks! Your files definitely have lots of useful data for me to work on.
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Just dont hack my phone because you will not find anything but porn ?????
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Just dont hack my phone because you will not find anything but porn
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I found no porn at all. :crying:
But your phone actually activated Battery Care 5 times and your charging pattern is really irregular and random. I doubt Battery Care can learn anything from it.
itandy said:
I found no porn at all. :crying:
But your phone actually activated Battery Care 5 times and your charging pattern is really irregular and random. I doubt Battery Care can learn anything from it.
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Yeah thats what I told you. My usage is not the same everyday so my battery care does not always activate.
I've just written an app to improve BatteryCare prediction. Check it out.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/themes/app-batterycare-t3547695
Wondering!
If they(Sony) can stop charging at 90% for sometime, then why not completely stop charging after 100% ?
And if someone wants to charge again then he can disconnect and reconnect to charge.
For that I use power bank to charge my phone over night, as PBank automatically shuts down when less current is passing(meaning 100% charged)
Is this idea stupid?