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Just changed to the z3 from my iphone 5s. After one week of use I see that I have alot of tiny scratches on the glass that covers the camera. On my Iphone 5s i have not a single scratch after a year of usage.
Anyone else having the same? I dont want to use a large case covering my phone, but the quality of my pictures matters a lot. Tips to preventing this to happen? Why is it happening?
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kicker86 said:
Just changed to the z3 from my iphone 5s. After one week of use I see that I have alot of tiny scratches on the glass that covers the camera. On my Iphone 5s i have not a single scratch after a year of usage.
Anyone else having the same? I dont want to use a large case covering my phone, but the quality of my pictures matters a lot. Tips to preventing this to happen? Why is it happening?
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It s simple Smartphone cannot take care of itself you should be careful where to put it
iPhone 5s also have these kindda problem cause I experience it myself (lots of scratch on camera, back and front
there is small circle protector to just put on camera to prevent scratches (it doesn't effect on pic quality cause it s completely visible) and usually these protectors ships with screen protectors
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Geeks Empire said:
It s simple Smartphone cannot take care of itself you should be careful where to put it
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Not really true as it deeply depends of the glass quality...
I've got a Samsung S4, took it with me on my Asia trips. Water, sand, rough handling, carrying it with lots of other stuff in the backpack.
NO (!) scratches on the camera lens.
Z3: Scratches on the glass backplane after one day of cautious use, crack in the display glass after listening to loud music for some time, rendering the touchscreen defective. Crack starting at the upper speaker which causes strong vibrations of the phone.
So it seems Sony doesn't care much about using quality glass; might be the same with the camera lens.
same problem with z3 camera scrathes.
Chefproll said:
Not really true as it deeply depends of the glass quality...
I've got a Samsung S4, took it with me on my Asia trips. Water, sand, rough handling, carrying it with lots of other stuff in the backpack.
NO (!) scratches on the camera lens.
Z3: Scratches on the glass backplane after one day of cautious use, crack in the display glass after listening to loud music for some time, rendering the touchscreen defective. Crack starting at the upper speaker which causes strong vibrations of the phone.
So it seems Sony doesn't care much about using quality glass; might be the same with the camera lens.
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me and my brother have the same problem, after only 2 weeks of use, both phones have the same problem, the camera glass looks very bad! so for me it's clear a material problem. Too bad, becuase the z3 it's really nice!
Chefproll said:
Not really true as it deeply depends of the glass quality...
I've got a Samsung S4, took it with me on my Asia trips. Water, sand, rough handling, carrying it with lots of other stuff in the backpack.
NO (!) scratches on the camera lens.
Z3: Scratches on the glass backplane after one day of cautious use, crack in the display glass after listening to loud music for some time, rendering the touchscreen defective. Crack starting at the upper speaker which causes strong vibrations of the phone.
So it seems Sony doesn't care much about using quality glass; might be the same with the camera lens.
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I don't and I bet the majority of people also don't have these problems. I don't look after my phones either.
The things you describe do not "just happen" as a result of "one day of cautious use" and screens do not crack from listening to music on the pathetic quiet speakers.
Might just be the oleo-phobic layer, which got damaged. Some LG G2s also had that. Rare though.
Try taking a qtip and rub toothpaste on it, it will buffout the scratchesand look brand new, happened to my htc m8
Herei would like to share my experience, i noticed the same problem while agi, normally don'tuse fone camera alot, but noticed lately that it has gone rubbish, search on youtube and different forums everyone refer that toothpaste thing and some even told me about nail polish remover, before starting with the cure it came to my mimd why need clean my hands first before i start cleaning my camera lens,while i was usinghand wipes bought from local shop i attempt ti clean my phone too, accidently i rubbed it on lens too and i noticed they weregoing smoothly i rubbed it gently and yaayyy its gone without doing anything else,
So basically only need a hand wipe to remove those smooth stains from lens,only precaution be gentle to your device.
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I have recently got a little scratch on my camera lens as well, i have look up on the internet and people say use toothpaste to remove the coating that is easily scratched. But I don't think i want to remove that layer of coating (if Z3 D6603 has that coating). Then I found the displex scratch remover, i wonder if this will work on the scratched Z3 camera lens. The scratch is very minor and does not affect the photo quality, but I just want it to be fixed.
Chefproll said:
Not really true as it deeply depends of the glass quality...
I've got a Samsung S4, took it with me on my Asia trips. Water, sand, rough handling, carrying it with lots of other stuff in the backpack.
NO (!) scratches on the camera lens.
Z3: Scratches on the glass backplane after one day of cautious use, crack in the display glass after listening to loud music for some time, rendering the touchscreen defective. Crack starting at the upper speaker which causes strong vibrations of the phone.
So it seems Sony doesn't care much about using quality glass; might be the same with the camera lens.
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Sand and no scratch?!?!?!
https://youtu.be/u-qYMl9T9wQ?t=49
It may also be the anti-reflective coating.
http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-166.html
The LG G2 also for some people had issues where it came off.
look up devil case the company got a lens product to keep the lens safe
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nedooo said:
Sand and no scratch?!?!?!
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Indeed. It's still like new.
But if it comes to the Z3, any scratches of the camera lens might improve the picture quality as the Z3 has the worst camera I ever experienced over the last few years.
It's nothing but a shame.
Have a look at the attachment - that's NO JOKE; it's bitter reality.
Chefproll said:
Indeed. It's still like new.
But if it comes to the Z3, any scratches of the camera lens might improve the picture quality as the Z3 has the worst camera I ever experienced over the last few years.
It's nothing but a shame.
Have a look at the attachment - that's NO JOKE; it's bitter reality.
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Indeed...
Something under the lens, near the top: http://imgur.com/a/SMXPU
I'm not sure what this is but looks like a speck of dust? But I'm not sure. What do you think? Is there a way to remove it without taking off the back cover completely (e.g. tapping the phone downwards, tapping the covert itself, etc.)
Not sure how it affects (or if it even does) image quality.. haven't noticed anything too unusual
Yep, looks like dust to me and I have mixed thoughts. One hand I say don't worry if it doesn't impact images, but also think if dust got in how dust/water proofed is the device?
cliffr39 said:
Yep, looks like dust to me and I have mixed thoughts. One hand I say don't worry if it doesn't impact images, but also think if dust got in how dust/water proofed is the device?
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I'm thinking more like dust went inside during the assembled of the device
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I have the same thing and quite a bit... Doesn't affect most outdoor images, but if you I a desk light at a certain angle, the dust spots are more apparent (they look like floaters in your eye). I had the lens cover replaced when I had the left blur problem. JerryRigEverything said the lens cover is plastic and scratches and loosens up very easily if you use a knife to poke it...
It looks like water vapors to me. Did you sink it in water? That's how my HTC camera looked after taking water. Could be that your device is not hermetic anymore. There is a test for that, using your service menu / pressure sensor and gently pushing on the screen. Google it up.
If it's not water but dust, you'd better test it though, as you don't want to put it in water if it's not water/dust proof anymore.
Xperia Z5 E6653
Hi everyone !
Since last week I own a xperia Z5, and I'm fully satisfied of this phone ! No problem encountered excepted yesterday.
I was looking at the back of my Z5 when I saw a little stain on the glass of the camera, I didn't pay attention, I thought it was some kind of dry water stain nothing more, today I look back again and the stain spread a little bit on the glass of the camera ! I decided to wash it with Q-tip and guess what ? The stain spread more ! So I've stopped and I leave my phone like this for the time being. Just to be clear, this not seems to be neither water stuck inside the glass nor a scratch,this only seems to be an uncleanable stain, also the phone keep taking some pretty good photos like there was nothing on the glass. That's just a aesthetic problem.
So I came here to see if someone has the same issue and if you can help me to fix this. I'll put some photos later, thanks everyone !
It's not a stain, it's the UV protection layer of the camera peeling off and using the qtip only made it peel even more. Not that big of a deal, you'll just get more intense reflections if you try to take pictures in bright sunny areas. Can compensate with manually adjusting the exposure and stuff.
If you don't have issues with it just leave it alone, if you get problems with the camera auto focusing or blurry images then you might want to peel it all off with a qtip and some toothpaste.
Some of the services are replacing the back panel under warranty for this issue aswell, might want to check your area and see if that's true for you.
Thanks for your Reply !
As you said it ain't big deal, i can live without it doesn't bother me (i'm not gonna change the back panel or if i do it's only because the problem become bigger) , but now i just want finish what i've accidentally begun and fully remove the UV layer (Blurry images, and Blue tint now and then ) .
Are you sure that the toothpaste will make it ?
Because right now on my camera it looks like a "sugar stain", i don't know how can i describe it , and taking a photo will lead nowhere because we barely see the "stain".
Either way i assume that you know what i'm talking about .
One last question , if i totally remove the UV layer , does my camera will look like before or it will be visible ?
Thanks again for your help
Yes toothpaste will do just fine, just gently rub the glass with a q-tip, rinse and repeat until all the coating is gone. Make sure you don't press too hard, don't want to scratch or break the glass. The camera will look clean afterwards. e.g. no more stained look.
Like I said you'll have brighter reflections on objects afterwards, like the sun reflecting in the water or on a car, but not that big of a deal.
The blue tint is not related to this, it's just due to Z5's software apparently, maybe they fix it on 7.0, fingers crossed.
I've rub a little bit with toothpaste and Q-tip, now the layer take all the camera Glass, guess I need to rub again, my photo are more and more blurry due to the extension of the layer. When we look at the glass on the sun it look like a rainbow and there is still some stain, I'll keep going, hope I'll fully remove the last stain .
Thank you very much
Ok so I come back one last time, I've got removed a lot of stain but some of them remain impossible to remove. The photos are more and more blurry so i've got called my seller, and he says that I can send back my Z5 to him and he'll give a new one for free.
This message is for you who have the same problem than me, if you have the UV layer peeling off, do not try to remove it, it will be worst, either you try to live with or send it back, your warranty will not be used and you'll get a new phone for free (don't know if it's the same everywhere but here in France that's the case).
Thanks for your support and your advices !
Hi guys, please see pictures. Is this normal?
There's a tiny gap between my top side of the screen and the frame (fits 2 lotto papers easily.)
It is annoying because the bottom side is perfect; the back side is also perfect.
Any body has this problem?
Hey, well i was curios too, .... for me the top is very very tight , close and no gap , no paper is going in.
But for the bottom is not, easy enter a papper in the gap , and you can see it .
I'm not concern about the bottom beacuse i will NOT put it in water !
Check my pictures ( recomend use , and google plus classic , for zoom
https://plus.google.com/photos/113360088344058276817/albums/6369905804234775025
Wasn't this answered elsewhere, in that the gap is deliberate to allow for expansions and contractions in temperature? We may need to be careful not to become too paranoid with the design, as some will gratuitously return the handsets which may raise the bar for those with a genuine warranty claim. If it's a waterproofing concern, I don't think we're supposed to be submerging the handsets, which are more water resistant than waterproof as I understand it. Apologies if this sounds a bit "preachy" and feel free to correct me if I'm way off here......
On my unit the top, bottom and the left side of the screen/frame connection are tight, but the right side where the power button is does have sligthly bigger gap, very tiny difference.
I'm sure if the phone passes the pressure test, it shouldn't be a concern about it beeing water resistant.
If it doesn't pass the pressure test, take it to service and demand a new one.
But If you go to a dealer and look at other phones on a store display you'll see they all have this tiny gap somwhere, not each on the same place, so I guess it's there for a reason and there's a tolerance for it.
As I said, if it passes pressure test, don't worry about it and don't try to adjust it or re-glue it or something.
I have the same gap on the bottom edge. Washed my phone many times, took showers with it. I dont have any issues.
cizkek_ said:
I have the same gap on the bottom edge. Washed my phone many times, took showers with it. I dont have any issues.
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One has to ask, why?? All you need to do is wipe your phone with a cloth dampened with anti-bacterial spray. These phones are water resistant, not waterproof.
sunking101 said:
One has to ask, why?? All you need to do is wipe your phone with a cloth dampened with anti-bacterial spray. These phones are water resistant, not waterproof.
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You are right. I was irresponsible. Always wanted to do it though
I was worried about possible dust inside top corner left main camera sensor (as you can see here https://youtu.be/2KfBsb_qEeE)
Seems to be fixed by nice redpoint73 answer, and after checking again, this isn't a piece of dust (maybe part of OIS mecanism).
Thanks again.
I'm a photography enthusiast (DSLRs, and now moved to a full frame mirrorless camera), and what I can tell you is NOT to be concerned about a single speck (or even several) of dust, if that is even what it is. A single speck of dust (or a few) will never show up on photos or video.
Here are a couple interesting articles from a popular website for renting camera lenses (Lensrentals.com):
First article is about the effect of dusk or scratches on a lens. When you look at the example photos taken with a "fairly bad" lens, they do seem pretty soft/blurry. Then you scroll down to see a picture of what the lens actually looks like, and it's pretty funny. I won't give it a away, it's better viewed yourself. But the point is that a lens can be in really rough shape, and still take decent photos. And even the lens in question, they had to try very hard (very specific circumstances) to get the "scratches" to show up in the photos:
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2008/10/front-element-scratches/
Another article, they found an entire house fly inside a lens, and it didn't even affect the photos except when stopped down to f13 (which isn't common to stop down that far) and even then, it was just a shadow, barely visible.
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2019/04/removing-fly-from-weather-sealed-canon-70-200mm/
Now, this is a big DSLR lens. And something as big as a house fly would have a much larger effect on a tiny phone lens. But the point being, a speck of dust is not even going to be visible under any conditions on your phone's camera.
Another good example, you can actually take photos through a chain link fence; or fabric mesh such as at a baseball field or other sports. If you get the lens up close to the fence or mesh, and take a photo of a subject far away, you will see that the mesh practically disappears. This also works taking photographs through some very dirty or scratched glass, such as exhibits at a zoo. If you can get the lens close up to the glass, even really dirty/scratched glass becomes nearly invisible. Same exact principle for dust on the lens. Since it is so "close" to the lens, it is not going to be visible. And anything on the lens has to get pretty bad, before it has any effect on the pictures. Really dirty/greasy glass on the camera phone's lens does make a difference - but you practically have to have a layer of dirt or grease.
I do have an old HTC One (M8) that has quite a few specks of dust on the inside of the back camera lens. Don't know if dust was getting inside somehow (that seemed to be the case). It looked pretty bad (looking at the lens) after using the phone a couple years - usually carrying it in my pocket. Maybe dozens of specks of dust on the inside of the lens - not just one or a few. But I can still not see any affect on the pictures.
Thanks for your long answer.
I'm not worried about it anymore, thanks to your thoughts, but also after that I'm pratically sure that it's not a small piece of dust.
Thanks again
basongwe said:
Thanks for your long answer.
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You're welcome. Although there is a button for that (thanks).
Also, please don't change the thread title like you did to "Solved" and delete the original content. This is really bad forum etiquette. It may be "solved" for you. But others may have a similar question or issue. A thread is never truly "solved" or "closed" (for everyone) in my opinion, as others may have additional information, questions, opinions, etc. And having a descriptive title (and keeping the original post) helps others find the info, know what the thread is about, etc.
If everyone did this, the forum would be full of empty threads, and the whole forum would be useless.
Please change the thread title and top post back to what you originally posted (as best you can remember, doesn't need to be perfect).
^agree, keep original title intact! Cheers
@basongwe I hope you don't mind as suggested by @redpoint73 and @galaxys but I've re-established the title of this thread as it was provided by you the last time.
I've done it too but thanks
redpoint73 said:
I'm a photography enthusiast (DSLRs, and now moved to a full frame mirrorless camera), and what I can tell you is NOT to be concerned about a single speck (or even several) of dust, if that is even what it is. A single speck of dust (or a few) will never show up on photos or video.
Here are a couple interesting articles from a popular website for renting camera lenses (Lensrentals.com):
First article is about the effect of dusk or scratches on a lens. When you look at the example photos taken with a "fairly bad" lens, they do seem pretty soft/blurry. Then you scroll down to see a picture of what the lens actually looks like, and it's pretty funny. I won't give it a away, it's better viewed yourself. But the point is that a lens can be in really rough shape, and still take decent photos. And even the lens in question, they had to try very hard (very specific circumstances) to get the "scratches" to show up in the photos:
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2008/10/front-element-scratches/
Another article, they found an entire house fly inside a lens, and it didn't even affect the photos except when stopped down to f13 (which isn't common to stop down that far) and even then, it was just a shadow, barely visible.
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2019/04/removing-fly-from-weather-sealed-canon-70-200mm/
Now, this is a big DSLR lens. And something as big as a house fly would have a much larger effect on a tiny phone lens. But the point being, a speck of dust is not even going to be visible under any conditions on your phone's camera.
Another good example, you can actually take photos through a chain link fence; or fabric mesh such as at a baseball field or other sports. If you get the lens up close to the fence or mesh, and take a photo of a subject far away, you will see that the mesh practically disappears. This also works taking photographs through some very dirty or scratched glass, such as exhibits at a zoo. If you can get the lens close up to the glass, even really dirty/scratched glass becomes nearly invisible. Same exact principle for dust on the lens. Since it is so "close" to the lens, it is not going to be visible. And anything on the lens has to get pretty bad, before it has any effect on the pictures. Really dirty/greasy glass on the camera phone's lens does make a difference - but you practically have to have a layer of dirt or grease.
I do have an old HTC One (M8) that has quite a few specks of dust on the inside of the back camera lens. Don't know if dust was getting inside somehow (that seemed to be the case). It looked pretty bad (looking at the lens) after using the phone a couple years - usually carrying it in my pocket. Maybe dozens of specks of dust on the inside of the lens - not just one or a few. But I can still not see any affect on the pictures.
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Interesting but I clearly had a speck of dirt that showed up in photos on my OP6. I could see it in the lens and was very visible in photos.