hey if I unlock boot loader and root can I boost headphone volume ? also do you have to manually flash updates with flash tool then ? regards
lukem99626 said:
do you have to manually flash updates with flash tool then ?
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SONY have a whole division working around the clock to keep those guys modifying their products happy.
Just like Apple, SAMSUNG and the other manufacturers do.
SONY go out of their way to help :fingers-crossed:
No need for the sarcasm XD I came from other devices where we could flash zip with updates in twrp when rooted that's all
lukem99626 said:
I came from other devices where we could flash zip with updates in twrp when rooted that's all
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SONY supplied updates come as FTF-files. You have to flash them with Flashtool and root again after updating.
Custom ROMs for SONY devices can come in ZIP-form (e.g. ExistenZ). You flash them via recovery. If you stay rooted depends on the specific ROM - but it is easy to flash SuperSU or Magisk in the same recovery session.
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Hi,
I will be getting my new OPO in the next few days (very excited!) my question is; If i unlock the booloader and root the phone but NOT flash a custom rom will i still receive the OTA updates from Cyanogen?
There's a few rooted apps i like to use and stock CM11S will be the perfect rom for me.
Thanks
Levy
levy9 said:
Hi,
I will be getting my new OPO in the next few days (very excited!) my question is; If i unlock the booloader and root the phone but NOT flash a custom rom will i still receive the OTA updates from Cyanogen?
There's a few rooted apps i like to use and stock CM11S will be the perfect rom for me.
Thanks
Levy
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Yes you will rooting does not affect OTS updates, the only thing is that after each OTA you will have to flash the SU zip again to get back root. The only thing that will mess up OTS is if you play with system files ( forum Masters correct me if i'm wrong here ). Make a backup before you do anything and you should be good. Have fun.
Cholerabob said:
Yes you will rooting does not affect OTS updates, the only thing is that after each OTA you will have to flash the SU zip again to get back root. The only thing that will mess up OTS is if you play with system files ( forum Masters correct me if i'm wrong here ). Make a backup before you do anything and you should be good. Have fun.
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Yeah this is all true
Download the SuperSU zip to your phone and be ready to flash it after the ota installs
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Hello Guys.. since I'm a nexus 4 user before...not familiar with this new phone want to ask if using Giefroot and successfully root my phone Can I still do a system update specially when lollipop comes..without any issues? my rooting purpose: just want to install root apps like titanium back up to uninstall bloatwares, greenify without xposed installer...
You will be notified by update center when Lollipop update is available even if your device is rooted or not, but not sure about if you will be able to install the system update or not.
I had seen some rooted devices could download the OTA but failed to install the update.
But there's nothing to worry since you can always flash the ftf file via flashtool, without wiping any of your data..
freddy1991 said:
You will be notified by update center when Lollipop update is available even if your device is rooted or not, but not sure about if you will be able to install the system update or not.
I had seen some rooted devices could download the OTA but failed to install the update.
But there's nothing to worry since you can always flash the ftf file via flashtool, without wiping any of your data..
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I can install any ftf.file right as long as it is for my device..also when ota is available the ftf. File is also release right?
kelvin99 said:
I can install any ftf.file right as long as it is for my device..also when ota is available the ftf. File is also release right?
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Yes, someone will make and upload an FTF.
In an extreme circumstance it may need Flashtool to be updated, but Androxyde will do that and push another version.
In the meantime, you can always relock your bootloader and use PCComapnion to update officially, then unlock the boot again
You can also use Xperiafirm to dowload the ftf files.
gregbradley said:
Yes, someone will make and upload an FTF.
In an extreme circumstance it may need Flashtool to be updated, but Androxyde will do that and push another version.
In the meantime, you can always relock your bootloader and use PCComapnion to update officially, then unlock the boot again
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Doesn't the root process require downgrading though? So it'd make updating through PCCompanion redundant.
3Shirts said:
Doesn't the root process require downgrading though? So it'd make updating through PCCompanion redundant.
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Not really, if you have an unlocked bootloader you can relock, upgrade, unlock, flash an insecure kernel**, flash SuperSU and you are done. no need to downgrade, that's a locked bootloader method.
**Someone will upload an advanced stock kernel within minutes of it hitting our devices, its not much of a tweak to make it insecure
(Just changing a 1 to a 0 in the right place)
Hell, they may even throw in recovery in a couple of minutes as well....
Yes but I was replying in the context of the OP who said 'using giefroot' so I assume it's the locked bootloader method he is asking about.
What's going on with kingroot for Xperia z3 lolipop 5.1.1? There is a date for available kingroot for this version?
No there isn't. Kingroot only supports 5.0 not 5.1 You could always flash 5.0.2, root with kingroot then flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1
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No there isn't. Kingroot only supports 5.0 not 5.1 You could always flash 5.0.2, root with kingroot then flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1
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I did it but when I updated to 5.1.1 the Root was deleted
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What's going on with kingroot for Xperia z3 lolipop 5.1.1? There is a date for available kingroot for this version?
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No date available...
I'm waiting for it too :crying:
DANIELTZ19 said:
I did it but when I updated to 5.1.1 the Root was deleted
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Did you flash a stock 5.0.2, then root with kingroot, install the latest dual recovery from PC, boot to recovery, do a complete wipe then flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1 from recovery. It should work. I tried it here, worked perfectly.
BTW make sure you put the pre-rooted 5.1.1 on your sdcard before you start so once you go into recovery to do a full wipe you don't reboot until you flash the pre-rooted 5.1..1
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Did you flash a stock 5.0.2, then root with kingroot, install the latest dual recovery from PC, boot to recovery, do a complete wipe then flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1 from recovery. It should work. I tried it here, worked perfectly.
BTW make sure you put the pre-rooted 5.1.1 on your sdcard before you start so once you go into recovery to do a full wipe you don't reboot until you flash the pre-rooted 5.1..1
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I don't install pre-rooted 5.1.1 because it needs to Recovery .. and I don't want to do a recovery in my device .... i just Burning a normal version of 5.1.1
DANIELTZ19 said:
I don't install pre-rooted 5.1.1 because it needs to Recovery .. and I don't want to do a recovery in my device .... i just Burning a normal version of 5.1.1
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Then just delete the recovery after you have flashed the pre rooted 5.1.1. The ramdisks are in the system partition.
gregbradley said:
Then just delete the recovery after you have flashed the pre rooted 5.1.1. The ramdisks are in the system partition.
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If I do now Recovery then it deletes all my stuff in the cell phone .. other than that it will lose my warranty and it might make my cell phone issues
DANIELTZ19 said:
If I do now Recovery then it deletes all my stuff in the cell phone
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It should not do that if you do it properly. You only lose stuff in your phone if you unlock the bootloader and you do not need to do that. Also, making a backup of things you want to keep is always a good idea.
DANIELTZ19 said:
.. other than that it will lose my warranty and it might make my cell phone issues
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No you will not lose warranty if you follow the locked bootloader tutorial. You do not need to unlock the bootloader to install recovery and flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1
Please take a moment to look through any of the multiple guides in the general section to see how to do this
gregbradley said:
It should not do that if you do it properly. You only lose stuff in your phone if you unlock the bootloader and you do not need to do that. Also, making a backup of things you want to keep is always a good idea.
No you will not lose warranty if you follow the locked bootloader tutorial. You do not need to unlock the bootloader to install recovery and flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1
Please take a moment to look through any of the multiple guides in the general section to see how to do this
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Okay, thank you very much, but there will be no hacking with "Kingroot"? This is the most easy and simple ..
DANIELTZ19 said:
Okay, thank you very much, but there will be no hacking with "Kingroot"? This is the most easy and simple ..
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Kingroot will send your IMEI to an IP address in china, I do not recommend it. Downgrade and use giefroot, install dual recovery, flash a pre rooted 5.1.1, then delete the recovery if you want, but I do not see why you would do this.
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Kingroot will send your IMEI to an IP address in china, I do not recommend it. Downgrade and use giefroot, install dual recovery, flash a pre rooted 5.1.1, then delete the recovery if you want, but I do not see why you would do this.
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Because that everyone I know who did Recovery then it's destroyed a lot of things on the device ..
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Because that everyone I know who did Recovery then it's destroyed a lot of things on the device ..
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You are confusing recovery with losing drm keys when unlocking the bootloader.
I have never come across anyone who has recovery installed correctly and used correctly who has had problems like that
@DANIELTZ19
If you're worried and want another opinion then my advice is that everything GregBradley has stated is correct. His method is also the safest and reliable with an excellent tutorial in the General forum. Read it http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-rootrecovery-how-to-root-install-t3017056
cheers
Why it's almost impossible for us to have the root with the locked bootloader.? Since the day the mobile went out till now it wasn't possible ?, so is there a chance?
Zewarxx said:
Why it's almost impossible for us to have the root with the locked bootloader.? Since the day the mobile went out till now it wasn't possible ?, so is there a chance?
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Nope highly unlikely, since dm-verity security was introduced on the z3+ all xperia devices after this require a unlocked bootloader for root. A modified system just won't boot up.
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Nope highly unlikely, since dm-verity security was introduced on the z3+ all xperia devices after this require a unlocked bootloader for root. A modified system just won't boot up.
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Hollywood!! So I shall wait no more? And unlock the bootloader? Because root with locked bootloader is just a myth now?
Zewarxx said:
Hollywood!! So I shall wait no more? And unlock the bootloader? Because root with locked bootloader is just a myth now?
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Go ahead, don't forget to backup your TA partition / DRM keys before...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/universal-dirtycow-based-ta-backup-t3514236
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Go ahead, don't forget to backup your TA partition / DRM keys before...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/universal-dirtycow-based-ta-backup-t3514236
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Nope highly unlikely, since dm-verity security was introduced on the z3+ all xperia devices after this require a unlocked bootloader for root. A modified system just won't boot up.
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so after the searches, I did I found out the following:
1- first, since I'm on android 7.0 I need to downgrade to 6.0 in order to backup my TA ! wich I can do via Flashtool
2- I do the backup
3- I root the phone and restore the backup I did
4- I upgrade to android 7 and then I'm good to go!
my questions:
1-what will I lose after unlocking the bootloader? and if I restored the TA backup will that count as if i didn't unlock the bootloader?
2- how I will root the phone? with a custom kernel or is there any other way? and if with a kernel any advice?
3-shall I do the root before upgrading to android 7? or before? and will I be able to still get updates after the root? or i will have to do it through Flashing Ftf of the new updates?
4-anyone is running Xposed framework?
thanks so much in advance ))
im not sure what we lose after bootloader unlock.. From what i read on the androplus kernel thread, if you use androplus there is some amount of drm functionality restored. there is no clear consensus from what i have read, and being a ex-Z3 user im still paranoid about this as in Z3 without the DRM camera is basically ****.
no xposed for nougat yet - so that's out of question.
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so after the searches, I did I found out the following:
1- first, since I'm on android 7.0 I need to downgrade to 6.0 in order to backup my TA ! wich I can do via Flashtool
2- I do the backup
3- I root the phone and restore the backup I did
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then you are locked again ... Don't do that!
4- I upgrade to android 7 and then I'm good to go!
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For every upgrade (via SONY's FTFs):
1. Flash FTF via Flashtool
2. flash suitable recovery and AndroPlus kernel (look in this forum and follow the instructions on AndroPlus' website)
3. boot into recovery, flash SuperSU and whatever you need
There should be a possibility to flash the devicekey (not the whole TA-partition!) to another partition to get the whole DRM-enchillada back. That does not work for me since it is not included in the FSC as of today.
my questions:
1-what will I lose after unlocking the bootloader? and if I restored the TA backup will that count as if i didn't unlock the bootloader?
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What you will loose when unlocking BL:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/loss-drm-keys-t2890936
At least the first two AFAIK are taken care of the DRM-Patch in AndroPlus's kernel.
2- how I will root the phone? with a custom kernel or is there any other way? and if with a kernel any advice?
3-shall I do the root before upgrading to android 7? or before? and will I be able to still get updates after the root? or i will have to do it through Flashing Ftf of the new updates?
4-anyone is running Xposed framework?
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2 see above, rinse and repeat for every new SONY Rom
3 same answer, since the modifications are overflashed by installing/flashing another ROM
4 I used to run XPrivacy, but ATM the granularity of options in MM and Nougat is enough for me -
there is no Xposed for Nougat ATM
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then you are locked again ... Don't do that!
For every upgrade (via SONY's FTFs):
1. Flash FTF via Flashtool
2. flash suitable recovery and AndroPlus kernel (look in this forum and follow the instructions on AndroPlus' website)
3. boot into recovery, flash SuperSU and whatever you need
There should be a possibility to flash the devicekey (not the whole TA-partition!) to another partition to get the whole DRM-enchillada back. That does not work for me since it is not included in the FSC as of today.
What you will loose when unlocking BL:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/loss-drm-keys-t2890936
At least the first two AFAIK are taken care of the DRM-Patch in AndroPlus's kernel.
2 see above, rinse and repeat for every new SONY Rom
3 same answer, since the modifications are overflashed by installing/flashing another ROM
4 I used to run XPrivacy, but ATM the granularity of options in MM and Nougat is enough for me -
there is no Xposed for Nougat ATM
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Thanks for your time and effort, well the reason I wanted the root is for the xposed and for the adblock only and since there's no xposed support yet I think it's not necessary to lose what I may lose just for the adblock ? thanks again
Could anyone please point out a way to root my phone(in title), as of this day. There are many methods. So I am confused. I recently read about magisk manager, used to root. Does it work? I just wanted to know the latest method, easier one of any. Also can TWRP manager be used to flash recovery in phone or should it be done flashing TWRP. Img, file.
Please forgive me if i posted in wrong section.
Thanks in advance.
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Could anyone please point out a way to root my phone(in title), as of this day. There are many methods. So I am confused. I recently read about magisk manager, used to root. Does it work? I just wanted to know the latest method, easier one of any. Also can TWRP manager be used to flash recovery in phone or should it be done flashing TWRP. Img, file.
Please forgive me if i posted in wrong section.
Thanks in advance.
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Use PC via ADB (fastboot)to flash TWRP. Flash Magisk in recovery, then dl Magisk manager from play store.
Magisk works very well.
This all is assuming your boot loader is unlocked.
Good luck.
melp57 said:
Use PC via ADB (fastboot)to flash TWRP. Flash Magisk in recovery, then dl Magisk manager from play store.
Magisk works very well.
This all is assuming your boot loader is unlocked.
Good luck.
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So instead of supersu, we use magisk?
And I read somewhere also that using magisk we can still get updates to our phones. Is that right?
Also there is a TWRP manager in play Store can we use it to flash TWRP instead of ADB?
Thanks for the steps though.
enusri said:
So instead of supersu, we use magisk?
And I read somewhere also that using magisk we can still get updates to our phones. Is that right?
Also there is a TWRP manager in play Store can we use it to flash TWRP instead of ADB?
Thanks for the steps though.
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My experience with TWRP manager has been it breaks my recovery. No idea why so I flashed via PC. Not sure you can still receive updates when your boot loader has been unlocked. Depends on a lot of factors. Someoneelse will have to answer that question.
melp57 said:
My experience with TWRP manager has been it breaks my recovery. No idea why so I flashed via PC. Not sure you can still receive updates when your boot loader has been unlocked. Depends on a lot of factors. Someoneelse will have to answer that question.
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OK thanks.
An unlocked bootloader doesn't prevent you from receiving updates from Motorola. But I think rooting the ROM will prevent installation of further updates.
I don't think Motorola is going to push any further updates. So just do anything you want with your phone (personal opinion).
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An unlocked bootloader doesn't prevent you from receiving updates from Motorola. But I think rooting the ROM will prevent installation of further updates.
I don't think Motorola is going to push any further updates. So just do anything you want with your phone (personal opinion).
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I've never received a update notice.
I would have to agree... There is little chance of getting another update, and if we did it would just be a simple security update and not important.
And no, even with Magisk you cannot apply an OTA update, it will fail.
Unlock your bootloader, flash the twrp recovery using adb fastboot...then wipe the stock rom, flash custom rom along with SuperSU....enjoy! (Processes are same but you should use the latest versions of all these...)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/guide-osprey-moto-g3-begin-how-to-t3599251