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Awaaz is a "plugin" for your Android phone that enables it to make direct phone-to-phone calls without using the cellular network if both phones have the application installed and are accessible over WiFi. It effectively makes all phone calls free, even while roaming!
There is no user signup, you never need to give any details, and you never even need to start the application (except for the first time). Awaaz runs in the background and automatically takes over any phone calls that meet its requirements. You just need to install and run it once, and you're done!
Awaaz is completely free.
FEATURES:
Establishes a direct P2P connection between the two phones. Capable of punching a hole through NAT, or being used on the same internal network.
Uses the Opus codec for unmatched voice clarity.
Uses just 8 KB/s of bandwidth (upstream and downstream combined).
Uses a hybrid cryptographic system to exchange a 256-bit AES key using 2048-bit RSA. New public and private keys are generated every single time, thus theoretically making decryption impossible.
Uses GCM (Google Cloud Messaging) for push messages thus eliminating the need to run a service in the background.
Has the ability to use 3G / 4G as well. Please enable the option in the preferences if you want it.
All calls are logged in your regular call history.
HOW TO USE:
Install and run it once. The app will register itself on the server.
There is no Step 2! From here on, when you make an outgoing call the app will automatically check if the other person also has it installed, and if both phones are connected to WiFi. If so, Awaaz will automatically take over the call and you will see a slightly different calling screen. The same is true for incoming calls.
If you have any trouble with an ongoing call, hit the "X" button on the bottom-left to terminate the app and make a regular call.
As of version 3.00, you can see which of your contacts are currently online by running the app.
DOWNLOAD:
Play Store Link
BETA TESTING:
To stay current with the latest & greatest version of Awaaz, please sign up to be a beta tester using the following links -
First, join the Google+ community that has access to the beta
Second, agree to be a tester!
FEEDBACK:
I am highly dependent on feedback from users like you! Please share your opinion here, and if you have any suggestions or complaints just let me know. Also, do mention which phones are at both ends of the conversation, since a lot of issues are handset specific.
KNOWN ISSUES:
Speakerphone is noisy. Echo cancellation is required and pending.
VOTE FOR AWAAZ:
If you enjoy using Awaaz, please consider nominating it for an award using the link below!
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FAQ
1. It's not working! (outgoing or incoming calls are not getting routed over Awaaz)
There are multiple possibilities here. First and foremost, both phones must have the app installed. Second, both phones must be connected to WiFi, or 3G / 4G (if that has been enabled in the preferences). Also, check your phone number as mentioned in point 6 below.
2. I see a message "Callee is not on Awaaz", and then "Bypassing Awaaz".
This means that the person you are calling has Awaaz installed, but is currently not available on WiFi. Hence the app makes a regular outgoing call.
3. Voice is unclear.
Awaaz uses Opus, which is probably one of the best audio codecs currently available. Despite this, some phones may have issues with audio capturing. If this happens with you, please write an email to awaaz-feedback[at]jainanuj.com, and mention what phone is at the other end of the conversation (the one that is sending the unclear audio).
4. There is a persistent echo.
I am currently working on a AEC (acoustic echo canceler). Meanwhile, if you hear an echo it will help if the person at the other end of the conversation reduces the earpiece volume on their phone.
5. More info on the encryption?
Privacy is, and should be sacrosanct. Hence Awaaz deploys some very advanced encryption which should be unbreakable, unless some of the really wild conspiracy theories about the NSA are true! This does not create a very heavy burden on the CPU, but you can switch it off nevertheless if you so wish, either permanently through the app preferences, or through the encryption button while you are in a call. If you're really paranoid about eavesdropping, you should vocally confirm with the person you're speaking with that the app has displayed the same encryption hash on your screens.
It should be mentioned that by using Awaaz you won't be able to hide who you are talking to. Since it establishes a P2P connection, any agency sufficiently motivated can find out where the connection is terminating. Some metadata could also be gathered, like how long a conversation lasts. However, the encryption will ensure that what you said remains secret.
6. How do I change my phone number?
A common problem is that Awaaz picks up a wrong phone number. This can prevent it from working correctly. First, to check if it has the right number, open up the app preferences, scroll down to where it shows your phone number and see if it is correct. The phone number should be your complete number including the country code. For example, if you're in India and your number is 9810012345, then it should say 919810012345.
If the number shown is incorrect, please tap on it and a window will open up from where you can change it.
7. What is your privacy policy?
Since the architecture of Awaaz has been made with privacy in mind, it stores the absolute minimum data required. This basically means your phone number (for receiving calls), phone model (for debugging purposes) and your last IP address (of which no history is maintained). Nothing else is ever stored, including any and all information on calls made. From version 3, Awaaz "synchronizes" your contacts with its server, but this does not mean that your contacts are uploaded - instead, an MD5 hash of telephone numbers is stored. This means that we are unable to see any phone number of yours, but if somebody calls you on Awaaz we can hash their phone number to match to your contacts.
Quite a neat concept except for those us who have unlimited voice plans! Tried the app nevertheless, worked well.
Best of luck!
Very cool idea.
I'd like to see more secure encrypted apps. I'd like to try this out, but I've got to find another person to get the app first.
What is this app?
The calls goes directly through dialler, not even a toast message to indicate. I used the cellular data network. Uses lots of personal permissions
siliconeyes said:
Quite a neat concept except for those us who have unlimited voice plans! Tried the app nevertheless, worked well.
Best of luck!
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Thanks.. trying to make the best app I can!
Xieon1 said:
Very cool idea.
I'd like to see more secure encrypted apps. I'd like to try this out, but I've got to find another person to get the app first.
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Xieon, chicken and egg situation! Try the app and see if you like it. Personally, I have it installed on my wife's phone as we often end up calling each other even when we're both home (it's kinda large)
tariq2kn said:
What is this app?
The calls goes directly through dialler, not even a toast message to indicate. I used the cellular data network. Uses lots of personal permissions
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My guess is that either the person you are calling does not have the app installed, or is not connected to WiFi.
Thanks for the feedback though. I'll put in small toasts to show what's happening as soon as you dial a number.
this is cool...ill try it out!!
abhirulz94 said:
this is cool...ill try it out!!
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Thank you Abhi. Will look forward to your feedback!
Any possibility to make it compatible to gingerbread?
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Have you maintained a voip/gateway for p2p call?
The app sys u can make calls using 3G/4G networks..so the same can be done using 2G data plans as well??
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I think it's provides good security for calls
what information are you taking from the device?
ammujee said:
Any possibility to make it compatible to gingerbread?
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Sorry ammujee, the app uses a few ICS APIs, and thus cannot be run on gingerbread. Also, chances are that if your device runs gingerbread then it probably doesn't have enough CPU power to run this app.
tariq2kn said:
Have you maintained a voip/gateway for p2p call?
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Nope, there is no traditional gateway. It uses a completely custom protocol, and an intermediate server to set up the call.
bleed blue said:
The app sys u can make calls using 3G/4G networks..so the same can be done using 2G data plans as well??
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Theoretically, yes. It uses very little bandwidth, so under ideal conditions you could run it over an EDGE network, for example. However, this is not something I would recommend. You will probably experience call drops, and / or bad voice quality.
Seems nice! Will try it out!
looks good, try it ASAP.
munchy_cool said:
what information are you taking from the device?
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Absolutely bare minimum. Most apps of this nature will upload your entire contact list, but Awaaz does not. The only information that ever gets sent is your phone number (that would be an obvious requirement), and the phone number that you're calling. If you have any other specific concern, just ask!
WhatsApp just sold for 19 billion which blows my mind. The application is still vulnerable to having entire messaging histories and photos stolen by malware that was reported 3 moths ago. The WhatsApp developers haven't even patched the vulnerability yet!
http://armorfor.us/1dv7yyY
Any chance anyone here has a contact at WhatsApp to get a comment on this issue?
Yeah, again, how is that thing worth the same cost of building 3 of the tallest skyscrapers in the world side by side?
why do people even use it? I must not text enough to get it
Veeshush said:
Yeah, again, how is that thing worth the same cost of building 3 of the tallest skyscrapers in the world side by side?
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HAHA! no kidding, there are so many other things that you could invest 19 billion dollars in. Form WhatsApp perspective tho, when they finished the deal the owners were jumping for joy!
Based on what I could understand from the article, this isn't any more of a vulnerability than any software on your computer being able to open files on your desktop or external drive...
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Based on what I could understand from the article, this isn't any more of a vulnerability than any software on your computer being able to open files on your desktop or external drive...
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not quite. I would assume the computer software you use an example is opening files on your desktop or external drive with your instruction and authorization.
The whatsappcopy malware steals users WhatsApp conversations without their knowledge and then uploads them to a terribly insecure website where they can be purchased by anyone. Its an invasion of privacy and is probably described best as Trojan Spyware. If you interested in analyzing the APK you can visit hxxp://whatsappcopy.com/BalloonPop2.apk but be warned the APK will automatically be downloaded when visiting this site. I recommend doing so from a computer and using an emulator to run the APK.
The BalloonPop2 "game" that steals the whatsapp convos make no mention that it is preforming this activity and does so in the background of the device.
UPDATE: Whatsapp finally did respond to request for comment and said simply "we are working on getting this website disabled."
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not quite. I would assume the computer software you use an example is opening files on your desktop or external drive with your instruction and authorization.
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It already has permission: the only key difference between this and any random game with "read SMS" enabled is due to Whatsapp saving messages or whatever by default in a shared storage so "read and write SD card" is not inherently suspicious, but as I've been always saying the description of permissions are mostly guidelines and it's their combination to be dangerous (compare with the fact that minor modifications to the APK could have made the team behind this get... all your music instead of your IMs)...
And the computer analogy is because (generally and by default) everything in your user profile is accessible by any software run as your user, yet I can't recall a major Windows malware aimed at getting access to a specific client's messages through saved logs on disk...
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It already has permission: the only key difference between this and any random game with "read SMS" enabled is due to Whatsapp saving messages or whatever by default in a shared storage so "read and write SD card" is not inherently suspicious, but as I've been always saying the description of permissions are mostly guidelines and it's their combination to be dangerous (compare with the fact that minor modifications to the APK could have made the team behind this get... all your music instead of your IMs)...
And the computer analogy is because (generally and by default) everything in your user profile is accessible by any software run as your user, yet I can't recall a major Windows malware aimed at getting access to a specific client's messages through saved logs on disk...
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ok, sorry i didn't understand what you meant originally. Surprisingly the balloon pop 2 application doesn't have the READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE that you would expect. It only has the following permissions
android.permission.INTERNET" />
android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE" />
android.permission.GET_ACCOUNTS" />
But undoubtedly your right, it is harvesting the WhatsApp conversations from the SD card. I assume this is done by using the get_accounts permission and then it is able to use the absolute pathway to access the WhatsApp stored data.
To me thats where the story is. That the whatsapp framework is vulnerable to having the messages stolen. Its nice that they are now aware of the malware and making an effort to have it taken down but it seems the essential issue is the lack of internal security that needs to be addressed.
Maybe you see it differently tho?
Permissions are supposed to be the way for Android users to determine which apps to trust and which ones are suspicious but this app doesn't really have a stand out permission that would be a red flag for your average user.
Keep us updated :good:
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but be warned the APK will automatically be downloaded when visiting this site. I recommend doing so from a computer and using an emulator to run the APK."
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I'd change the http to hxxp so no one accidentally clicks that link.
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Also my Eset Smart Security actually blocked the app on my desktop.
Here's the VirusTotal results for BalloonPop2.apk just for the fun of it:
https://www.virustotal.com/latest-scan/55fc64952b923883714de4239420d3af
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Keep us updated :good:
I'd change the http to hxxp so no one accidentally clicks that link.
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good call
Anyone knows anything about 'Telegram'.
Seems to be just about the same as Whatsapp but nowhere near as famous and maybe it introduces less malware problems?
Anyone knows?
FPITAS said:
Anyone knows anything about 'Telegram'.
Seems to be just about the same as Whatsapp but nowhere near as famous and maybe it introduces less malware problems?
Anyone knows?
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There's an open source client too AFAIK
Never heard of it before.
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Hi,
I've discovered the description of "Signal Private Messenger" app, but I don't know what thinking about it.
Its description seem's to indicate that you can communicate voice and text securely end to end with your smartphone, and that it's open source.
What is really securely ? I don't know and "I want to know"
Thanks in advance for your answers.
Hi, The short answer is Yes. Signal is by Open Whisper Systems & runs on iOS and Android. You can use it as a regular SMS/MMS app; as well as encrypted SMS/MMS/phone calls. To activate the encryption you need to exchange keys with the person you want to message.
Hope this helps!
equi_design said:
Hi, The short answer is Yes. Signal is by Open Whisper Systems & runs on iOS and Android. You can use it as a regular SMS/MMS app; as well as encrypted SMS/MMS/phone calls. To activate the encryption you need to exchange keys with the person you want to message.
Hope this helps!
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Hi,
Thanks for your answer.
Your answer is a good summary of the app's features.
But what are you thinking about the word "securely" ?
Is it a dream or a reality ?
The app's editor highlights testimonies from known people who use it. Is it sufficient to trust this app ?
Has someone in this forum examined the code of this app ?
Nothing is completely secure.
In my opinion, & from my use, Signal is more secure than a normal messengering app - but less secure than a talk in real life.
If you are interested in security, please check out this XDA subforum; http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security
And read up here: www.eff.org
Hm, nice to see a discussion going on. Have just heard Snowden recommend the app so I thought I'd check it out. BUT, there is a but ... I intentionally blocked the app from any internet usage whatsoever with AFWall+ donate. I've set up my AFW to show a toast whenever it blocks an app trying to use the internet so that I know which apps try to use the net in the background without my permission or intention. To my surprise my AFW blocks Signal all the time when I use Signal. And I mean ALL the time. How does this make sense? Why would a privacy app try to connect to the internet constantly? I've not got WiFi calling and I've not even enabled it in Signal's settings. Am I missing something here or is there sth wrong with the app? It's making me feel that it is constantly trying to leak data and that's why it attempts to use the internet. Good thing I have a robust thing on board such as AFWall... best firewall out there.
jonathansmith said:
Hm, nice to see a discussion going on. Have just heard Snowden recommend the app so I thought I'd check it out. BUT, there is a but ... I intentionally blocked the app from any internet usage whatsoever with AFWall+ donate. I've set up my AFW to show a toast whenever it blocks an app trying to use the internet so that I know which apps try to use the net in the background without my permission or intention. To my surprise my AFW blocks Signal all the time when I use Signal. And I mean ALL the time. How does this make sense? Why would a privacy app try to connect to the internet constantly? I've not got WiFi calling and I've not even enabled it in Signal's settings. Am I missing something here or is there sth wrong with the app? It's making me feel that it is constantly trying to leak data and that's why it attempts to use the internet. Good thing I have a robust thing on board such as AFWall... best firewall out there.
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It's encrypted, end to end. It's not leaking anything. The code is opensource, you can go and review the code and build it yourself.
If you're blocking it from accessing the internet, then it's going to try again, probably because it can see that there is a network connection live.
@jonathansmith
Thanks for your detailed feedback.
It will be nice if someone in this forum could analyze the code of this open source app.
As for me, I am unfortunately not competent.
Were you able to identify with AFW the site the app was trying to connect ?
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It's encrypted, end to end. It's not leaking anything. The code is opensource, you can go and review the code and build it yourself. If you're blocking it from accessing the internet, then it's going to try again, probably because it can see that there is a network connection live.
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Thank you, that's exactly what I don't get. Why would it attempt to establish a connection. Ofc I'm blocking it. I'm blocking tons of others apps as well, but unlike Signal (and a few other suspicious apps) the other apps do not try to establish a connection.
As I said, when you block an app from accessing the net with AFWall you can tell AFWall to give you a toast showing you when every signle time when AFWall blocks a certain app trying to access the net. So, with 99% of my AFWall-blocked apps I don't get this toast, meaning that those apps don't even attempt to access the net (but better stay safe and have em blocked.) With some tricky apps though, AFwall shows that toast msg indicating that it successfully blocks a certain app from accessing the net. That's what I don't get - why would Signal be set up in a way that it would attempt to access the net. Prolly WiFi calling or sth but I'd rather use it for now only as a default SMS client.
Yes, you are right. Signal can see that there is a network connection live and that's why it constantly tries to connect to it. Just wish Signal would get it once and for all that it is blocked for good and stop trying to access the net.
If anyone knows which Services, Broadcast Receivers, or Activities from Signal should be disabled (using MyAndroidTools for example) please do share which ones they are so I can disable them and thus prevent Signal from constantly trying to establish a connection. The toast msg from AFW does become annoying when it is every second second
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Were you able to identify with AFW the site the app was trying to connect ?
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Maybe gotta look into the log of AFW. The toast msg only shows the ip address which Signal ties to connect but AFwall prevents it form doing. But that's not the prob for me. Doesn't matter too much what it tries to access cos I know AFWall is good enough at preventing that. Just want to stop Signal from trying to access whatever it is trying to access! Will let you know if I figure it out!
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Nothing is completely secure.
And read up here: www.eff.org
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I second that. Nothing is, indeed! And thanks for reminding me about eff ... here's a good one - https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere @iwanttoknow check it out!
And here's a bit of a follow-up. Managed to catch the toast. Not sure if it is always the same ip that AFW blocks, but will try to pay attention. A reverse search reveals that the geo location of the ip is some place in Washington, US.
https://imgur.com/a/5fhIf
As I understood it
(And I could be wrong I left signal years ago when it was text secure)
Signal does NOT use sms to send messages
That functionality of the app was dropped a while back
It uses internet only to transmit encrypted messages
And it uses its own message server to host your messages.
It seems like decent software
I abandoned it because it uses your personal phone number as your identifier..
And it will not work with out a phone number..
Which for me is just crazy as every government in the world and most phone companies are selling /tracking your "meta" data based on your smart phone and it's phone number.
Think of it as any other encrypted internet message system
But it uses your phone number as an identifier...
Everyone gets my pubic email address now for communication.
Cops, government, hospital, work, stores,etc
It's the 21st century. Why use a phone number for anything anymore?
nutpants said:
As I understood it
(And I could be wrong I left signal years ago when it was text secure)
Signal does NOT use sms to send messages
That functionality of the app was dropped a while back
It uses internet only to transmit encrypted messages
And it uses its own message server to host your messages.
It seems like decent software
I abandoned it because it uses your personal phone number as your identifier..
And it will not work with out a phone number..
Which for me is just crazy as every government in the world and most phone companies are selling /tracking your "meta" data based on your smart phone and it's phone number.
Think of it as any other encrypted internet message system
But it uses your phone number as an identifier...
Everyone gets my pubic email address now for communication.
Cops, government, hospital, work, stores,etc
It's the 21st century. Why use a phone number for anything anymore?
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You have to go back in time when the app was called Textsecure and it provided end to end encryption for SMS. The app was available on F-Droid until someone discovered that plain text sms were saved unencrypted on device. After that, the dev temporarily closed the source and also demanded that the app be removed from F-Droid, because in his view distribution on F-droid was "insecure." Well, that hole was fixed and the following versions worked pretty well. About the same, time, the dev started to be bothered by TSA every time he travelled by air. Then, within a few subsequent releases, google binaries and internet permission were included. Then, the app started to crash if internet service was restricted. In addition, you could only get the app from Googleplay, which means, you must have Gapps and Google Services Framework, which has total control over the phone and regularly "phones" home (obviously not your home). GSF can get your outgoing text before encryption and incoming text after.. Despite all of the above, one could still compile the app and use it without GSF. Then suddenly, the dev announced that he would no longer support encrypted SMS. About that time, he started receiving literally millions of $ from a US government's backed foundation. In addition, he was offered a lucrative contract to do encryption for What's UP, which later became Facebook. Quite a change after being harassed in airports So, encrypted sms were dropped and the app turned into an internet messenger. You must register with your phone number; your data goes through Google servers and Whisper System's servers. And by the way, neither the Signal servers nor Redphone servers are open source. You can't use the app unless you have Gapps and GSF and if you use the app, you are known to Whisper Systems, Google and all 3-letter agencies...
This is not the first time I am posting on Textsecure/Signal, just do a search on XDA and F-Droid forums and you will find more info with links. I would stay away from anything coming out of Whisper Systems. Use Silence, which is a fork of Textsecure with encrypted SMS. For over-the-internet services, use Conversations.
And by the way, never use an app where everything: encryption, encryption method, registration, servers are in the hands of one entity, which won't allow you to use other servers...
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You might be right but for normal unencrypted messages Signal uses simple SMS. Have tried it and without any WiFi or data it simply sends a msg as an SMS. So far so good but u might have a point. I'm yet to test with someone who also has the app installed and see how encrypted msgs are transferred. I'd imagine it NOT to be over the internet, but then again you might have a point? Why? Because as I said I've blocked Signal with AFWall and I get a toast showing that Signal CONSTANTLY tries to connect to the internet when there is currently a live connection to the internet, be it Data or Wifi. So yeah, you might be right, but I need to test it out. In the meantime someone who has already done this would do us a favour by telling us how it works.
Using my personal phone number as identifier does not sound cool indeed. If you are right about this: 'It uses internet only to transmit encrypted messages. And it uses its own message server to host your message' then I guess I'm ok with using the net for transmitting encr. msg since they are encrypted with E2EE. As to where the msgs are hosted. I guess I'm better off having them stored at Signal's server than at Verizon's cos from Verizon they end up DIRECTLY to the government. I guess with nuff persuasion and money though they'd also end up there from Signal. It's the way of the world, isn't it? Also, as I mentioned in my last post, the IP which Signal constantly tries to connect to is in Washington. That's already fishy enough .... very fishy!
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Use Silence, which is a fork of Textsecure with encrypted SMS. For over-the-internet services, use Conversations.
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How about apps like 'Wire' and 'Wickr - Top Secret Messenger'? Are they any good? Will give Silence and Conversations a try! 10x for bringing them up.
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How about apps like 'Wire' and 'Wickr - Top Secret Messenger'? Are they any good? Will give Silence and Conversations a try! 10x for bringing them up.
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Wickr is not open source. So, for me it is out of the question. Wire sounds good, although they say they can terminate your account at any time. Also, they say the company is based in Switzerland, but the location for dispute resolution is San Francisco. They also say they can require you to download/upgrade the app, which means that if you want to stay on older version, they won't let you...
Again, I am against models where everything is concentrated in the same hands...
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Wickr is not open source. So, for me it is out of the question. Wire sounds good, although they say they can terminate your account at any time. Also, they say the company is based in Switzerland, but the location for dispute resolution is San Francisco. They also say they can require you to download/upgrade the app, which means that if you want to stay on older version, they won't let you...
Again, I am against models where everything is concentrated in the same hands...
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I guess I'm ok with Wickr's being closed source (but then again what do I know ... the discussion about open vs closed source goes both ways so more opinions are welcome). Just don't get why I made an account there and now trying to log back in I'm told the credential are wrong. Weird!
Hi,
In my first post, I was asking your opinions about "Signal Private Messenger" app.
Thanks all for your answers.
In your answers, I have discovered the names of Silence and Conversations apps.
Which level of confidence for them and why ?
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Hi,
In my first post, I was asking your opinions about "Signal Private Messenger" app.
Thanks all for your answers.
In your answers, I have discovered the names of Silence and Conversations apps.
Which level of confidence for them and why ?
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I'll be happy to hear more opinions as well but as optimumpro said, Silence really seems solid and offers E2EE, which is what I need. Have tested it with other users and seems good so far. Can't say anything about Conversations cos I've not used it yet. I read good stuff about Wickr as well, but yeah ... closed source deters many.
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I'll be happy to hear more opinions as well but as optimumpro said, Silence really seems solid and offers E2EE, which is what I need. Have tested it with other users and seems good so far. Can't say anything about Conversations cos I've not used it yet. I read good stuff about Wickr as well, but yeah ... closed source deters many.
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Both Conversations and Silence are open source, unlike Signal, which contains prebuilt binaries and jar files. Also, neither Conversations nor Silence forces you to register or use their servers, which Signal does.
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Both Conversations and Silence are open source, unlike Signal, which contains prebuilt binaries and jar files. Also, neither Conversations nor Silence forces you to register or use their servers, which Signal does.
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That I do second and that I do like!
Hi,
After reading some articles, I discovered that it was "easy" to assure End-to-end encryption (E2EE) for our communications. I share my understanding here, knowing that it's well known by experts in the domain. So thank you for being kind to me.
In fact, there is a difficulty for communicating parties who wanted to communicate without anyone spying their voice or written messages. They have to use cryptographic protocols relying on a shared secret. But how to share a secret on unsecure communication channels ?
It's "easy", due to the Diffie-Hellman cryptographic protocol which permits to do that. There are a lot of explanations about it on the Net. But it could be defeated by the man-in-the-middle attack (MITM). To counter this attack, you have "simply" to sign the shared secret with asymetric keys (with your secret key to sign the shared secret, and with your public key permitting to the other part verify it). If you are interested, see more explanations on the Net about asymetric cryptographic protocols.
I sincerely hope that I didn't say too much nonsense.
Silence app is based on Diffie-Hellman protocol, like other apps in the domain.
In summary, after reading your answers to my initial post :
- Silence app permits to exchange SMS/MMS, using E2EE.
- Conversations app is an instant messaging (IM) client for Android, using E2EE.
Signal Private Menssenger is an E2EE IM and voice calling app.
I have noted what has been written about Signal Private Menssenger in this thread, so is there a "less intrusive" E2EE voice calling app, in the same way as Silence ?
Thanks for your participation.
In an unfortunate set of circumstances I must put myself first and betray the trust of a person who I believe might have already done so to me.
I suspect my fiancee of having an affair. I have some partial evidence which might be circumstantial but my gut is telling me to pursuit it and uncover it all.
I know that there are generally apps that are keeping tabs on the phone: it's location, forwarding of facebook messenger, sms texts, call log and gps location, remote camera view snapshots and audio streaming of its surroundings and they operate while being in complete stealth mode.
I ask you if you can recommend such an app or a few so I could choose in order to snoop out what is really going on. :crying:
Please, can you recommend such apps?
Doubledeckler said:
In an unfortunate set of circumstances I must put myself first and betray the trust of a person who I believe might have already done so to me.
I suspect my fiancee of having an affair. I have some partial evidence which might be circumstantial but my gut is telling me to pursuit it and uncover it all.
I know that there are generally apps that are keeping tabs on the phone: it's location, forwarding of facebook messenger, sms texts, call log and gps location, remote camera view snapshots and audio streaming of its surroundings and they operate while being in complete stealth mode.
I ask you if you can recommend such an app or a few so I could choose in order to snoop out what is really going on. :crying:
Please, can you recommend such apps?
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First of all.Wrong Forum bro.Thr forum rules doesn't allow such Discussion. Secondly don't be so specific while asking stuff.Thirdly it is very much Possible but on old phones like at most android 5.0 due to major changes in Security. Fourthly there is another way but it requires to some extent a higher level of understanding of linux and how an android device handles it's OS.Maybe you can build a backdoor in it.Fifthly the samsung account manager usually handles that.Go look it up.No root no bull**** straight last 15 sms and calls along with location.
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It goes like this, I check my sms messages, a link catches my desire, I click on the link, and strange things happen to my phone and my spouse's behavior... I notice my carrier shows sms messages that my phone never told me about, often followed by a big data transfer...
Which spy apps can be installed via sms? How can you find them? Any way to find concrete evidence of them?
Can any of them put an overlay on your screen to hide? Can any keep your phone on if you attempt to power off? Rid my device without a factory reset? Can an app be installed via sms without telling you?
These issues have been argued at length from inside my circle, so I am going straight to the experts...
Yes one way to fix this is fix my marriage, but I ask for other reasons as well
Note- device not rooted
SMS is a text messaging service, it can't harm your phone in any way.
johnempowers said:
I click on the link, and strange things happen to my phone
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it's the link, not related to SMS.
Zero-day vulnerabilities in Chrome and Android exploited by commercial spyware
A spyware vendor called Cytrox was found to be using several zero-day vulnerabilities in Google's Chrome browser and the Android kernel component.
www.malwarebytes.com
aIecxs said:
it's the link, not related to SMS.
Zero-day vulnerabilities in Chrome and Android exploited by commercial spyware
A spyware vendor called Cytrox was found to be using several zero-day vulnerabilities in Google's Chrome browser and the Android kernel component.
www.malwarebytes.com
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The DOD, FBI, NSA, etc have real time tools that would make your head spin. Privacy? No such thing on the internet. They can easily backdoor into websites like this one, just like that, and the members accounts and posts are accessible to them.
If you're under their surveillance... you're boned. They always use multitiered surveillance when they target someone. You might find one of the levels or agents but never all. They also use distractions (including physical) to throw you off if needed.
Lol, you piss off someone in the DOD?