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Hey everyone, thanks for looking at this and hopefully helping me out. I'm new to rooting my phone and installing new roms and stuff, but I researched about as much as I could for about a week before I even rooted.
Now I've moved on and installed a new rom (CM7). Before installing I used clockwork and formated the /system, /data, /cache, and dalvik. At first everything was ok, but after about 15 minutes it turned off. I read up on battery problems, so kept my phone plugged in all weekend (got up to 4.196V-ish, with 0mA in or out) then deleted the battery file, rebooted, unplugged the phone and let it drain completely (even while it still had a charge it would turn off randomly but I figured it would be ok). After it was completely drained I completely charged it again and it still randomly turns off.
At first I thought maybe it was just the rom, but no one else seems to have the same problem as me (that I can find), so I downloaded an ICS rom to try that. Same problems. So far I have done the following to try and find out WTF is going on...
Installed Elixr to see battery drainage (sitting at main screen doing nothing its roughly -8mA, but right after boot or opening a program it jumps to -300mA to -480mA)
Done NUMEROUS battery pulls (with and without deleting the battery config file)
Switched ROMS
Any help would be amazing
PS: Before rooting or flashing a new mod my phone would shut off on its own, but only once a week, maybe. Now it turns off as soon as I unlock my sim card. However, it doesn't turn off at all if I have it plugged in.
spcclark said:
Hey everyone, thanks for looking at this and hopefully helping me out. I'm new to rooting my phone and installing new roms and stuff, but I researched about as much as I could for about a week before I even rooted.
Now I've moved on and installed a new rom (CM7). Before installing I used clockwork and formated the /system, /data, /cache, and dalvik. At first everything was ok, but after about 15 minutes it turned off. I read up on battery problems, so kept my phone plugged in all weekend (got up to 4.196V-ish, with 0mA in or out) then deleted the battery file, rebooted, unplugged the phone and let it drain completely (even while it still had a charge it would turn off randomly but I figured it would be ok). After it was completely drained I completely charged it again and it still randomly turns off.
At first I thought maybe it was just the rom, but no one else seems to have the same problem as me (that I can find), so I downloaded an ICS rom to try that. Same problems. So far I have done the following to try and find out WTF is going on...
Installed Elixr to see battery drainage (sitting at main screen doing nothing its roughly -8mA, but right after boot or opening a program it jumps to -300mA to -480mA)
Done NUMEROUS battery pulls (with and without deleting the battery config file)
Switched ROMS
Any help would be amazing
PS: Before rooting or flashing a new mod my phone would shut off on its own, but only once a week, maybe. Now it turns off as soon as I unlock my sim card. However, it doesn't turn off at all if I have it plugged in.
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Well, if you were having this issue before the rooting took place, this very well may be hardware related. There are a few things I recommend before the dreaded unroot and send back to manufacturer route (assuming the phone is under warranty still). It's been proven or at least shown that battery calibration (the whole charge to 0Ma and then fully discharge and then recharge) is a pipe dream.
I would first say find out if the CM7 ROM you're using is OCing or UVing, while you may see some people OCing to 1.3 or higher and UVing -75, not all phones are created equal in capabilities and some phones will randomly freeze/turn off if they don't like your OC and UV settings. I would also suggest flashing a different ROM to see if this problem persists. Cleardroid is what I recommend just to get an idea if it is in fact a OC or UV problem as I believe cleardroid is set up to default stock settings.
You can also try a new battery, I have heard/read/seen that bad batteries can cause reboots. Again though if this was an issue you were sometimes experiencing before, you may have hit the tip of the iceberg on a hardware issue and its finally starting to show now. Hope this helps.
spcclark said:
Hey everyone, thanks for looking at this and hopefully helping me out. I'm new to rooting my phone and installing new roms and stuff, but I researched about as much as I could for about a week before I even rooted.
Now I've moved on and installed a new rom (CM7). Before installing I used clockwork and formated the /system, /data, /cache, and dalvik. At first everything was ok, but after about 15 minutes it turned off. I read up on battery problems, so kept my phone plugged in all weekend (got up to 4.196V-ish, with 0mA in or out) then deleted the battery file, rebooted, unplugged the phone and let it drain completely (even while it still had a charge it would turn off randomly but I figured it would be ok). After it was completely drained I completely charged it again and it still randomly turns off.
At first I thought maybe it was just the rom, but no one else seems to have the same problem as me (that I can find), so I downloaded an ICS rom to try that. Same problems. So far I have done the following to try and find out WTF is going on...
Installed Elixr to see battery drainage (sitting at main screen doing nothing its roughly -8mA, but right after boot or opening a program it jumps to -300mA to -480mA)
Done NUMEROUS battery pulls (with and without deleting the battery config file)
Switched ROMS
Any help would be amazing
PS: Before rooting or flashing a new mod my phone would shut off on its own, but only once a week, maybe. Now it turns off as soon as I unlock my sim card. However, it doesn't turn off at all if I have it plugged in.
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I guess the issue is with the battery itself. Try getting a new battery. I heard some guys experiencing the same and sorting things out replacing the battery....
Leave the charger plugged in. If it doesn't reboot then that will let you know most likely it is the battery.
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Leave the charger plugged in. If it doesn't reboot then that will let you know most likely it is the battery.
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That was my thoughts exactly. However, if the ROM or kernel or whatever is set to shut off the phone at a certain reading of discharge from the battery, ie -500mA, this could also be the problem.
I thought it could have been a problem with the phone as well, but before it would shut off on its own MAYBE once a month. 90% of those I attributed to overloading the phone, closing facebook, opening the internet, starting to load a webpage then open a new txt I just recieved while the phone was still vibrating type things.
Now it still feels like it's just quitting on me, it never turns off while the screen is locked or while its charging. So far after the new ROM it has shut off when I place a call, when I receive a call, clicking on a notification, opening the messaging app, clicking download in the market, and my favorite when I unlock it from sleep.
I will download a different rom right now and try it. Just to double check this is what I've been doing to install a new rom... I boot my phone into recovery (vol- and power), go to recovery from the boot screen (opens clockworkmod), scroll down to mounts and storage, have it format /system, /data and /cache, go back to wipe data/factory reset, then install zip from sdcard, select the rom and go... I know some roms require inspiremod, should I still install this if I'm USING an inspire??
Thanks for the input guys, I really appreciate it
If it does turn out to be the battery or you just decide to get a new one to test it out. I recommend these, they are awesome and the only thing anyone should try besides HTC factory replacements. Good luck and I hope this works out for you.
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i only skimmed this. but cleaning battery contacts can help also check the side door, sometimes that can cause issues as well. air can out everything and clean metal contacts with rubbing (ipa) alcohol.
So I installed cleardroid. Once again everything worked fine for the first 10-15 minutes and then the shutdowns started again, always when making the phone do something (unlocking, clicking a notification, opening a program, etc) but never when the phone is charging.
I'll clean off every bronze or gold contact I can find but I think I might be fighting a lost cause lol. Three different ROMS, all with the same problem leads me to believe its a hardware issue. Since all the chips in these phones are all small and use multilayer boards I won't be able to replace anything myself so I see a new phone in my near future.
Thanks guys!
If it doesn't do it when its chargeing then it is the battery. I had bought my inspire from someone and it was having those issues ordered a new HTC stock battery from newegg for like $12 and has been working perfectly since then and honestly if you want the best battery rom absolution is the rom you should check out. It's a non sense rom but again I'd just buy a new battery. I had mine timed it'd reset at 92% 74% and 49% xD
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spcclark said:
So I installed cleardroid. Once again everything worked fine for the first 10-15 minutes and then the shutdowns started again, always when making the phone do something (unlocking, clicking a notification, opening a program, etc) but never when the phone is charging.
I'll clean off every bronze or gold contact I can find but I think I might be fighting a lost cause lol. Three different ROMS, all with the same problem leads me to believe its a hardware issue. Since all the chips in these phones are all small and use multilayer boards I won't be able to replace anything myself so I see a new phone in my near future.
Thanks guys!
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hmm, I would say try a new battery before getting a new phone. Worst case scenario is that you spent $15 to learn you need a new phone as opposed to spending $100+ on a new phone...this is of course assuming you want to keep the inspire and not just looking for a reason to get upgrade ahaha
I agree. It still sounds like a battery issue.
I would agree this definitely sounds like an internal short in the battery. Sounds like it's shutting off whenever it gets a significant load on it. Try a new battery first.
I had a similar issue though I was tweaking the CPU. Learned my lesson.
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Yeah, Id bet money that its a bad battery. I had this same exact issue with my Inspire. If it shuts off more in low reception areas but it isn't shutting off when plugged in, its definitely the battery. I would try to find someone with an Inspire and try switching them batteries and see if it stops.
If I tried to use the flash with my camera, the phone would shut off. My phone would randomly reboot or turn off. ATT told me they had "some" bad batches of batteries. My phone was still under warranty so ATT sent me a new battery. All the problems went away!
The battery door on the Inspire becomes wonky the more you open it, I was having a problem like yours, new battery and new door has me going good.
Hi, I have a problem when charging and the phone is off. Few weeks later everything was ok - by which I mean that after few hours the phone signalised full battery by showing 5 full bars. Now I can leave the phone on charger even 12 hours but the fifth bar still blinks as if it was not charged. When online, everything goes fine: phone saying "charging" for some time, then "charged".
I`ve tried many since december and I believe its somehow related, but dont know how. I even tried formatting everythin except sdcard in clockwork and then installing a clean stock ics rom but no change ...
Im afraid of breaking the battery somehow and its also a bit weird ...
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Hi, I have a problem when charging and the phone is off. Few weeks later everything was ok - by which I mean that after few hours the phone signalised full battery by showing 5 full bars. Now I can leave the phone on charger even 12 hours but the fifth bar still blinks as if it was not charged. When online, everything goes fine: phone saying "charging" for some time, then "charged".
I`ve tried many since december and I believe its somehow related, but dont know how. I even tried formatting everythin except sdcard in clockwork and then installing a clean stock ics rom but no change ...
Im afraid of breaking the battery somehow and its also a bit weird ...
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Many Nexus S have a bug that makes battery charge above 95% impossible, unless you use some nasty tricks (enabling the debug option that keeps the screen on while charging and enabling the Wifi AP mode / Wifi tethering).
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Thanks, but Im not really troubled by the fact I cant get to 100%. My trouble is that during charging, the phone (turned off) never signals BATTERY FULL ...
EDIT 1: With my second battery the phone acts normally - charging, then stating BATTERY FULL ...
EDIT 2: I found out that when I enter my spare battery into the phone and then give back the original one, its able to tell me "battery full" ... but not without this "swap" ... Im afraid of my battery be charged all the time - and damaged ...
Nobody has the same problem???
Hi all this question may of been asked before or slightly differently. I have Sensation with ICS (Unbranded) and had the phone since Sept 2011 and it seems when my battery gets to 30-40% left (approx) i start getting rebooting and becomes more so lower it gets. Now i know its not ICS as it started doing this 2-3 weeks when i had gingerbread. So could my battery be failing? or something more sinister going on?
Thanks in advance
Also when i upgraded to ICS i did a factory reset.
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I'm a bit curious to see the answer for this one, my friend has the same problem, and I've been trying to troubleshoot it for him with no luck.
There are a few posts about switching the type of signal, which we tried, but it wasn't a good solution as he didn't get 3G network at where he lived
So i have now also turned wifi off (Only 3G enabled) and @ 50% according to battery indicator i went to open a message (SMS) and it rebooted on me.
Did you cablibrate the battery?
um no, never heard of battery calibration , any tutorials on what needs to be done. Thats new to me
Ah ok i found this on xda for non rooted device
1. Turn off your phone.
2. Fully Charge.
3. When getting 100% signal, unplug quickly.
4. Pull off the battery and put it anywhere.
5. Wait for 180 seconds exactly (be careful )
6. Meanwhile, take this opportunity to dust off the internal compartment.
7. Put back the battery on the right side.
8. Turn on the phone.
9. Pray the Battery god
10. ... and voilà !
Source : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312273
So i will give that a try
I tried my above post to calibrate battery and it didnt work for me so i sent my phone back for repair and alls good now. They never said what was faulty so the reason i guess is still unknown.
Some people on Facebook HTC UK page said it could of been a Ram or Processor issue, it wasn't a battery issue as I still use same battery and works fine since i got it back.
Turn off your phone.
Fully Charge.
When getting 100% signal, unplug quickly.Pull off the battery and put it anywhere.Wait for 180 seconds exactly (be careful ) Meanwhile, take this opportunity to dust off the internal compartment.Put back the battery on the right side.Turn on the phone.
Thanks i tried everything inc. your idea and all failed. I returned it to HTC for repair in the end
my battery charged than i go from home out, than i looked my phone; phone turn off, than come bak my home and plug charge; but phone not charged-charge light not shine-. i plug my extended mugen battery and phone turn on. what the hell my original battery?
First, sorry if this has already been discussed somewhere, but I couldn't find a topic with a case exactly like mine.
I have a 4G Slide. From the beginning, as I don't like Android 2.3 (or whatever it was, 2.X anyway) I upgraded to 4.0 by installing Cyanogenmod 9.10 (stable release for Doubleshot). So I don't really know how it was before CM 9, but here's the issue.
First, this phone takes forever to charge it, even leaving it overnight isn't enough sometimes. However, it can reach 100%, it's just really slow. And here's the strange part. If you look at the charge graph in Battery menu, you can see the straight line going up, and at a certain moment you can notice what looks like a very slight break in it - not a gap, I mean that it's going up at a certain angle, and you see it suddenly change a bit, like the charging speed slowed down or something. So I found out that when you see this line break, you can just reboot the phone. And it shows 100% charge, the light is green! Otherwise you'll have to wait for hours until it shows 100%.
Also, changes in charge displayed on the screen are almost unpredictable. Sometimes it shows you it's holding charge well for a relatively long time, and suddenly, there's a sharp fall in the graph, and the phone shuts off. It's especially annoying during the night, as I use it as an alarm cloclk to wake up, and once I almost was late for work because the stupid thing died in the night, luckily I woke up by myself.
So my question is whether this can be fixed as I'm fed up. What I tried: changed the battery, tried different chargers, tried to clean the micro USB on the phone (the charging port), installed an updated version of CM 9 from this site. Nothing seems to help. So I'll be grateful if someone can tell me what it is, maybe you've seen this happen. Does it mean my phone has a bad charging controller? I also heard that flashing a different kernel sometimes helps, but there aren't any available for my phone.
Thank you.
RomanKasp said:
First, sorry if this has already been discussed somewhere, but I couldn't find a topic with a case exactly like mine.
I have a 4G Slide. From the beginning, as I don't like Android 2.3 (or whatever it was, 2.X anyway) I upgraded to 4.0 by installing Cyanogenmod 9.10 (stable release for Doubleshot). So I don't really know how it was before CM 9, but here's the issue.
First, this phone takes forever to charge it, even leaving it overnight isn't enough sometimes. However, it can reach 100%, it's just really slow. And here's the strange part. If you look at the charge graph in Battery menu, you can see the straight line going up, and at a certain moment you can notice what looks like a very slight break in it - not a gap, I mean that it's going up at a certain angle, and you see it suddenly change a bit, like the charging speed slowed down or something. So I found out that when you see this line break, you can just reboot the phone. And it shows 100% charge, the light is green! Otherwise you'll have to wait for hours until it shows 100%.
Also, changes in charge displayed on the screen are almost unpredictable. Sometimes it shows you it's holding charge well for a relatively long time, and suddenly, there's a sharp fall in the graph, and the phone shuts off. It's especially annoying during the night, as I use it as an alarm cloclk to wake up, and once I almost was late for work because the stupid thing died in the night, luckily I woke up by myself.
So my question is whether this can be fixed as I'm fed up. What I tried: changed the battery, tried different chargers, tried to clean the micro USB on the phone (the charging port), installed an updated version of CM 9 from this site. Nothing seems to help. So I'll be grateful if someone can tell me what it is, maybe you've seen this happen. Does it mean my phone has a bad charging controller? I also heard that flashing a different kernel sometimes helps, but there aren't any available for my phone.
Thank you.
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ICS may just have battery stats that don't work for your batteries. Try calibrating the battery:
http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-calibrate-the-battery-on-your-android-device
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en
If I remember the instructions properly, install the app, charge to full (or half hour past full), open the app to press the button, run it dry, and charge it fully with it turned off (note the LED on mine turns green at the 90% mark, so leave it plugged in and off for about an hour past the time it turns green).
I found with the app, it takes forever to get that last 1% after using it, and it takes a while before dipping below it again, but it seems to be more accurate than CM thinking I had the stock battery installed (I have a couple Ankers now). Hope this helps.
Thank you but doesn't work
Nothing helps. It's surely not related to incorrectly calibrated battery. I did 8-1-1 charge which DID help when I bought a Chinese copy of Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini (my wife is using it now, and it's working fine, battery life is very good). But my stupid phone doesn't react. Just 5 minutes ago, when I was talking to my friend, it still showed about 30% left, then it suddenly died and I even couldn't turn it on, even while it was charging, the red light was blinking. Then it turned on and showed 2%! But the most interesting thing is that now there's something else going on, which I've NEVER seen! Because when I looked at it after approximately 10 minutes, it showed 98%!!! It never did that before. What the hell is happening?????? Then I rebooted it, and now it shows 39%! How's that? I've no idea how to make it work, maybe it's the CM9 which doesn't work corectly with the battery controller, but I think that it's much more likely that the battery controller itself is faulty. Sometimes this happens, and this is a physical fault. Unfortunately, it's too expensive to fix, so I'll just probably have to get a new phone...
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Nothing helps. It's surely not related to incorrectly calibrated battery. I did 8-1-1 charge which DID help when I bought a Chinese copy of Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini (my wife is using it now, and it's working fine, battery life is very good). But my stupid phone doesn't react. Just 5 minutes ago, when I was talking to my friend, it still showed about 30% left, then it suddenly died and I even couldn't turn it on, even while it was charging, the red light was blinking. Then it turned on and showed 2%! But the most interesting thing is that now there's something else going on, which I've NEVER seen! Because when I looked at it after approximately 10 minutes, it showed 98%!!! It never did that before. What the hell is happening?????? Then I rebooted it, and now it shows 39%! How's that? I've no idea how to make it work, maybe it's the CM9 which doesn't work corectly with the battery controller, but I think that it's much more likely that the battery controller itself is faulty. Sometimes this happens, and this is a physical fault. Unfortunately, it's too expensive to fix, so I'll just probably have to get a new phone...
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Well, I am suspecting a hardware issue, but only one way to find out ... go back to stock.
Doesn't have to be true stock, if you no longer have a nandroid of the original OS. MikTouch would work just as well, as the kernels are interchangeable. If you need a download for it, I can help out with that.
joel.maxuel said:
Well, I am suspecting a hardware issue, but only one way to find out ... go back to stock.
Doesn't have to be true stock, if you no longer have a nandroid of the original OS. MikTouch would work just as well, as the kernels are interchangeable. If you need a download for it, I can help out with that.
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By the way, I wanted to install an upgrade - a different version of CM found here (the thread says it's stable enough) to see if a newer system can solve the problem. I found this "[ROM][Official]MyTouch4G Slide CyanogenMod 10.1 [P-21] | 2013-06-16" - but unfortunately, it doesn't work on my phone. It's getting installed, and then it says something like "Updating Android" and then "Starting applications" and just freezes. If you reboot it, it just stops at the CM10 logo. I had this before with CM 9 and wiped Dalvik cache (I think), then the problem went away. Here, no such luck. Doesn't help at all. Will go back (as I did a backup) to what I had. But it's a pity.
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By the way, I wanted to install an upgrade - a different version of CM found here (the thread says it's stable enough) to see if a newer system can solve the problem. I found this "[ROM][Official]MyTouch4G Slide CyanogenMod 10.1 [P-21] | 2013-06-16" - but unfortunately, it doesn't work on my phone. It's getting installed, and then it says something like "Updating Android" and then "Starting applications" and just freezes. If you reboot it, it just stops at the CM10 logo. I had this before with CM 9 and wiped Dalvik cache (I think), then the problem went away. Here, no such luck. Doesn't help at all. Will go back (as I did a backup) to what I had. But it's a pity.
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Did you dirty flash, that is not wipe data before installing CM10.1? If so, that would be the cause.
If not, that's new for me. I used TBalden's CM10.1 for a year, never had a problem like that.
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Did you dirty flash, that is not wipe data before installing CM10.1? If so, that would be the cause.
If not, that's new for me. I used TBalden's CM10.1 for a year, never had a problem like that.
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I tried everything, including wiping data/cache/Dalvik cache, then installing the file, I even tried to install the GApps too. Nothing seems to happen. It just gets stuck in the bootloop. When you first turn it on, it stops at "Starting apps", then if you reboot it, it stops working at CM logo (bootloop). I waited for 10 minutes or more, no result. Luckily, I did a full backup so I went back to CM 9. Seems like my phone is simply incompatible with this mod. No luck for me here .
Hey all,
I've posted this on a couple of other forums too (so some of you may have seen it there too) but I'm still struggling with my issues.
I stupidly dropped my phone and when I picked it up it was off which I thought was strange and ever since then the phone has taken forever to charge, when not on charge and turned on it runs super hot and generally keeps restarting itself, also the android system usage is really high and each app I go on the usage seems to be double what it used to be. When hitting 99% charge (when the phone is off) the battery symbol shows up with an exclamation mark in it (seems concerning).
I've browsed the web for answers and I've done everything suggested bar the factory reset as I don't think that will fix it as others had no success so I'm a bit stumped and I'm wondering if anyone could help. (I would try this eventually, but I can't seem to make it connect to my PC to back it up)
Thanks in advance
Xlemi said:
Hey all,
I've posted this on a couple of other forums too (so some of you may have seen it there too) but I'm still struggling with my issues.
I stupidly dropped my phone and when I picked it up it was off which I thought was strange and ever since then the phone has taken forever to charge, when not on charge and turned on it runs super hot and generally keeps restarting itself, also the android system usage is really high and each app I go on the usage seems to be double what it used to be. When hitting 99% charge (when the phone is off) the battery symbol shows up with an exclamation mark in it (seems concerning).
I've browsed the web for answers and I've done everything suggested bar the factory reset as I don't think that will fix it as others had no success so I'm a bit stumped and I'm wondering if anyone could help. (I would try this eventually, but I can't seem to make it connect to my PC to back it up)
Thanks in advance
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You're dealing with some kind of hardware damage, you probably should take it to a reputable professional service shop.
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