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Can someone tell me the difference between the two models??
International Version vs. Chinese Version
No Support vs. Little More Support
International LTE Bands vs. Chinese LTE Bands
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
International Version vs. Chinese Version
No Support vs. Little More Support
International LTE Bands vs. Chinese LTE Bands
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Which one is better for US?? Which one is international?
Dav-701l = International Version
Depends an what you want, right now i dont recommend any of these anymore!
Maybe have a look at Xiaomi Max or Zenfone 3 Ultra...
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
Dav-701l = International Version
Depends an what you want, right now i dont recommend any of these anymore!
Maybe have a look at Xiaomi Max or Zenfone 3 Ultra...
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Which one is better for the US?? Or for me to develop different modem packages for??
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
Dav-701l = International Version
Depends an what you want, right now i dont recommend any of these anymore!
Maybe have a look at Xiaomi Max or Zenfone 3 Ultra...
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Why don't you recommend it anymore?
gideonMorrison said:
Why don't you recommend it anymore?
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Awfull Support from Huawei(Softwarewise) and no Custom ROM Support.
If you want a cheap device and can accept maybe some problems and a maybe for Android N Update then you can buy it.
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
Awfull Support from Huawei(Softwarewise) and no Custom ROM Support.
If you want a cheap device and can accept maybe some problems and a maybe for Android N Update then you can buy it.
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Hmm okay. I read some comments on the page of the max at http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p8max-reviews-7200.php Some people received the Marshmellow OTA recently...?
gideonMorrison said:
Hmm okay. I read some comments on the page of the max at http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p8max-reviews-7200.php Some people received the Marshmellow OTA recently...?
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If your interested in the p8 max then check out the asus zenfone 3 ultra.. same size phone with some way better spects
I agree. I have had both the DAV-701L and DAV-703L. Hardware is ok but Huawei is H O R R I B L E at software. The worst experience in my life was with huawei software and their "support" which is hell-bent to "make it impossible". I have sold both phones and will wait for the Zenfone 3 Ultra. **** you, Huawei.
Do not "upgrade" to the Marshmallow (Android 6). It will ruin the phone. Newer is not better, especially with software "updates". Check-out the "changelist" for the Android 6 "upgrade" here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67787826&postcount=83
HiKirin is a horrible chipset.
And for who might be interested in the differences between the two, hardware-wise they are EXACTLY the same. DAV-703L's case finish is rougher/cheaper and the SIM/card slots are also flimsier than the DAV-701L and you feel it instantly as you touch the device.
Also, DAV-703L is absolutely FULL of chinese software crap that you cannot get rid of. You have Yellowpages (for china, of course) in the Phone app and it doesn't come with anything Google (including PlayStore).
If you really want this phone, get the DAV-701L. The 703L is not worth it, even thought it is the same phone, the software (which is already crap) ruins it.
And to finish :
" But I guess there is no cure for stupidity, since every time I "upgraded" my phones ever since the Galaxy Note N7000 got Android 4, they always screwed it up, every single manufacturer (LG, Samsung, HTC). They're not at fault here, I'm the idiot who never learns his lesson and disables the damn updates. "
UzY3L said:
I agree. I have had both the DAV-701L and DAV-703L. Hardware is ok but Huawei is H O R R I B L E at software. The worst experience in my life was with huawei software and their "support" which is hell-bent to "make it impossible". I have sold both phones and will wait for the Zenfone 3 Ultra. **** you, Huawei.
Do not "upgrade" to the Marshmallow (Android 6). It will ruin the phone. Newer is not better, especially with software "updates". Check-out the "changelist" for the Android 6 "upgrade" here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67787826&postcount=83
HiKirin is a horrible chipset.
And for who might be interested in the differences between the two, hardware-wise they are EXACTLY the same. DAV-703L's case finish is rougher/cheaper and the SIM/card slots are also flimsier than the DAV-701L and you feel it instantly as you touch the device.
Also, DAV-703L is absolutely FULL of chinese software crap that you cannot get rid of. You have Yellowpages (for china, of course) in the Phone app and it doesn't come with anything Google (including PlayStore).
If you really want this phone, get the DAV-701L. The 703L is not worth it, even thought it is the same phone, the software (which is already crap) ruins it.
And to finish :
" But I guess there is no cure for stupidity, since every time I "upgraded" my phones ever since the Galaxy Note N7000 got Android 4, they always screwed it up, every single manufacturer (LG, Samsung, HTC). They're not at fault here, I'm the idiot who never learns his lesson and disables the damn updates. "
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I disagree with most of this cause if you have time and knowledge you can get rid of the Chinese crap and have all Google things you want on it.
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
I disagree with most of this cause if you have time and knowledge you can get rid of the Chinese crap and have all Google things you want on it.
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I assumed that also and just like you, I was wrong. You can uninstall some of the software and install google play store apk, sure.
But the chinese stuff that I'm talking about is embedded into the phone's core functions (dialer, menu, settings, gallery etc.). You can't get rid of them without rooting and doing some very risky editing of the phone's config files which will most likely result in a bricked device.
Bonus points : Absolutely no Huawei service center located in any other part of the globe except ASIA, will be able to fix a bricked DAV-703L. So if you brick it, you have to send it back to China. The reverse is true for the DAV-701L.
The genius that is Huawei, decided that if you can afford to pay 600$ for a phone, then you don't have the money to buy a plane ticket. Idiots...
UzY3L said:
I agree. I have had both the DAV-701L and DAV-703L. Hardware is ok but Huawei is H O R R I B L E at software. The worst experience in my life was with huawei software and their "support" which is hell-bent to "make it impossible". I have sold both phones and will wait for the Zenfone 3 Ultra. **** you, Huawei.
Do not "upgrade" to the Marshmallow (Android 6). It will ruin the phone. Newer is not better, especially with software "updates". Check-out the "changelist" for the Android 6 "upgrade" here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67787826&postcount=83
HiKirin is a horrible chipset.
And for who might be interested in the differences between the two, hardware-wise they are EXACTLY the same. DAV-703L's case finish is rougher/cheaper and the SIM/card slots are also flimsier than the DAV-701L and you feel it instantly as you touch the device.
Also, DAV-703L is absolutely FULL of chinese software crap that you cannot get rid of. You have Yellowpages (for china, of course) in the Phone app and it doesn't come with anything Google (including PlayStore).
If you really want this phone, get the DAV-701L. The 703L is not worth it, even thought it is the same phone, the software (which is already crap) ruins it.
And to finish :
" But I guess there is no cure for stupidity, since every time I "upgraded" my phones ever since the Galaxy Note N7000 got Android 4, they always screwed it up, every single manufacturer (LG, Samsung, HTC). They're not at fault here, I'm the idiot who never learns his lesson and disables the damn updates. "
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I assumed that also and just like you, I was wrong. You can uninstall some of the software and install google play store apk, sure.
But the chinese stuff that I'm talking about is embedded into the phone's core functions (dialer, menu, settings, gallery etc.). You can't get rid of them without rooting and doing some very risky editing of the phone's config files which will most likely result in a bricked device.
Bonus points : Absolutely no Huawei service center located in any other part of the globe except ASIA, will be able to fix a bricked DAV-703L. So if you brick it, you have to send it back to China. The reverse is true for the DAV-701L.
The genius that is Huawei, decided that if you can afford to pay 600$ for a phone, then you don't have the money to buy a plane ticket. Idiots...
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I am so sorry you cant root your phone and do some simple build.prop changes!
Me too, actually. Programming (even simple text) puts me right to sleep. I really admire people who know how to configure Android so, good on you.
Rooting was not an option for me as in my country (although illegal, they did it anyway), Huawei made it so that the warranty is rendered invalid if I get the bootloader unlock code from them. So you guys are lucky and I'm happy for you but I've given up on Huawei.
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Me too, actually. Programming (even simple text) puts me right to sleep. I really admire people who know how to configure Android so, good on you.
Rooting was not an option for me as in my country (although illegal, they did it anyway), Huawei made it so that the warranty is rendered invalid if I get the bootloader unlock code from them. So you guys are lucky and I'm happy for you but I've given up on Huawei.
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You're in an EU country, so it doesn't matter what what Huawei tell you about the warranty, it's against the EU law. So unlocking the bootloader won't void you warranty. And I have no clue of programming, but I got rid of all the Chinese stuff on my 703, and I'm full on google, like on my previous LG G2.
If you're serious about your phone, you have to invest time on searching and editing. I couldn't be more happy about my P8 max since it is now exactly how I wanted it to be at the beginning. No single Chinese app or word, everything replaced with the right software, very long SoT.
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You're in an EU country, so it doesn't matter what what Huawei tell you about the warranty, it's against the EU law. So unlocking the bootloader won't void you warranty. And I have no clue of programming, but I got rid of all the Chinese stuff on my 703, and I'm full on google, like on my previous LG G2.
If you're serious about your phone, you have to invest time on searching and editing. I couldn't be more happy about my P8 max since it is now exactly how I wanted it to be at the beginning. No single Chinese app or word, everything replaced with the right software, very long SoT.
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That is very cool. Would be nice if you made a tutorial for the other people who are using the DAV-703L to get rid of all the chinese bloatware.
I know what they are doing is not legal but if I argue with them, they just won't give me the code. Weird thing is, even the tech support from UK told me the same thing.
m00h said:
You're in an EU country, so it doesn't matter what what Huawei tell you about the warranty, it's against the EU law. So unlocking the bootloader won't void you warranty. And I have no clue of programming, but I got rid of all the Chinese stuff on my 703, and I'm full on google, like on my previous LG G2.
If you're serious about your phone, you have to invest time on searching and editing. I couldn't be more happy about my P8 max since it is now exactly how I wanted it to be at the beginning. No single Chinese app or word, everything replaced with the right software, very long SoT.
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How long is your SoT? I have 701L (unrooted) and get 6 hours max I bet.
I where Surpprised two see both the 703L handset does manage LTE+ 4G here in Denmark.. (a 32GB titanium grey and 64GB silver, both 703L on EMUI4.0)
at least on the celluar-carrier "3" here in scandinavia..(only LTE-carrier i have checked on) (attached screendumps)
NB.. in respons to upper-replys about lacks of 703L vs international 701L version..like getting google-services, like play-store on 703L.. is as easy as just open "Hiapp" and type "google" and take play store from there or any other google international service..// purchased another p8max at the start of 2016, and wonderd about getting the 701L version, but didnt make sense, it costed close too double the price of the 290US delivered' i ended up paying for an 703L titanium grey..
DaneLaw said:
I where Surpprised two see both the 703L handset does manage LTE+ 4G here in Denmark.. (a 32GB titanium grey and 64GB silver, both 703L on EMUI4.0)
at least on the celluar-carrier "3" here in scandinavia..(only LTE-carrier i have checked on) (attached screendumps)
NB.. in respons to upper-replys about lacks of 703L vs international 701L version..like getting google-services, like play-store on 703L.. is as easy as just open "Hiapp" and type "google" and take play store from there or any other google international service..// purchased another p8max at the start of 2016, and wonderd about getting the 701L version, but didnt make sense, it costed close too double the price of the 290US delivered' i ended up paying for an 703L titanium grey..
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What theme is that?
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kingkea said:
What theme is that?
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the theme is "Spark" its an free huawei theme..i like it, and partically the symbols.
how do i see what LTE-band im connected on, when im on 4G on the 703L here in Scandinavia.
A little puffled :cyclops: that the 703L does manage LTE+ 4G now...
is there anyway to see the carrier & band-specs on the 4G-connection that are in play? (*will take a look in the app store.. )
I was thinking of getting Mate 9, and i just noticed that there are not much development of custom roms like other devices such as LG and samsung, is there a reason or just the mate series not getting much attention?
Shady282 said:
I was thinking of getting Mate 9, and i just noticed that there are not much development of custom roms like other devices such as LG and samsung, is there a reason or just the mate series not getting much attention?
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First and second both.
Reason - You can build working boot from kernel sources. But camera will not work.
And Mate 9 has not much developers.
But in defense of phone I can say that it is great device. We are able to root and Magisk, install every stock ROM, rebrand between localizations, use Xposed. Stock ROMs are good, quick and have many useful functions.
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First and second both.
Reason - You can build working boot from kernel sources. But camera will not work.
And Mate 9 has not much developers.
But in defense of phone I can say that it is great device. We are able to root and Magisk, install every stock ROM, rebrand between localizations, use Xposed. Stock ROMs are good, quick and have many useful functions.
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Oh thank you for your reply. :good:
can please explain what does the "rebrand between localizations" means? because i ve been reading it everywhere but not able to understand what does it mean and its purpose? and does that void warranty?
Also, someone told me on a forum that if you bought huawei from a specific region like Europe and you are using it outside of europe, as in not european simcard, you will not receive updates ? only until you use a sim related to where you bought the phone from? is this related to the "rebrand between localizations" ?
You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
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You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
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Absolutely fantastic battery life and fast phone! ?
grinch247 said:
Absolutely fantastic battery life and fast phone!
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+1 Great phone! I am running stock longer than any rom in 10 years! Think about all the things you can do in your life without constantly tinkering with a phone :laugh:
Shady282 said:
Oh thank you for your reply. :good:
can please explain what does the "rebrand between localizations" means? because i ve been reading it everywhere but not able to understand what does it mean and its purpose? and does that void warranty?
Also, someone told me on a forum that if you bought huawei from a specific region like Europe and you are using it outside of europe, as in not european simcard, you will not receive updates ? only until you use a sim related to where you bought the phone from? is this related to the "rebrand between localizations" ?
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Rebrand between localizations means that you are able to buy Chinese model MHA-AL00 with Chinese ROM and rebrand to world ROM and vice versa.
Models are same by hardware.
About sim and updates - yeah, problem still exists. To get updates quickly after they released need phone with proper region/localization and proper sim.
So, I live in Russia and have Russian operator's sim. I bought European Mate 9 cause Huawei doesn't sell Mate's series in Russia (Russia is C10 in Huawei customization). My chances to get update on my MHA-L29C432 faster than European owners are very small. Fortunately, it is not problem to me.
P.s. I told that chances are small but they are not null. Huawei rolls on some ROMs to all after some time (about month)
sutty86 said:
You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
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Oh but a lot of users reported that huawei does not have a good customer support in case of issues with the phone and such. is it true?
What about updates? do you expect getting oero and so on OS ? since there are not a lot of custom roms?
tho i didn't like the fact the regional update lock based on the sim card region you are using.
but i love the good SOT.
Greetings people,
I am planning on buying a P20 PRO, could you please tell me what the best version to get is? the one that gets the most updates?
Any reasons i should not buy this phone?
How often does this phone receive security patches and updates in general ?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
Depends what are you accustomed to. If coming from iOS, be aware we get major updates slower. And in same country different areas gets updates differently.
For me Bluetooth haven't worked at all. And it isn't hardware, but some other unknown reason.
Photos are phenomenal on this phone, as is battery life. There is lag and stutter here and there, but if you have used Android phones before, I think u won't see it. Only iOS users can?
1noob said:
Greetings people,
I am planning on buying a P20 PRO, could you please tell me what the best version to get is? the one that gets the most updates?
Any reasons i should not buy this phone?
How often does this phone receive security patches and updates in general ?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
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You better look for used unit which already have its bootloader unlocked. So that you can always get updates faster. (as you can do it yourself, by flashing update file without have to wait for OTA arrive)
and the biggest reason not to buy huawei phone today is because they stop the bootloader unlocking process support.
else, phone is very good.
If you really up to for the new one, get CLT L29 either C432 or C636 both have better supports
asian international c636 is the best one
Can someone please explain the difference between models? What's the deal? Sry for noob question..
Hello fellow XDA users. I decided to change my aging mi5, my first thought was mi mix 2s, but i realized that almost none of the phones has home button nowadays, and maybe i'm old school, but it's kind of important to me. I realized that maybe only huawei and oneplus is the one which is keeping this feature, and since p20 is more pretty for me, i'm really onto buying it… but of course i'm not sure about it, i'm a sucker for stock android, and as i see, there isn't any custom rom here.
Are you generally satisfied with the Huawei rom? Is there anyone working on custom rom? If so, will it be any soon available? For users who are already having the phone, any regrets? Would you choose any different phone if you bought today?
Would greatly appreciate any answers,
cheers.
The Huawei ROM is fine, no limitations, all you need in my opinion. Never felt I have to change the ROM.
I loved the home button in my Honor 9 before. It works well on P20 but, somehow because of the position (bigger screen) the onscreen buttons are easier to reach.
zsoltpopa said:
Hello fellow XDA users. I decided to change my aging mi5, my first thought was mi mix 2s, but i realized that almost none of the phones has home button nowadays, and maybe i'm old school, but it's kind of important to me. I realized that maybe only huawei and oneplus is the one which is keeping this feature, and since p20 is more pretty for me, i'm really onto buying it… but of course i'm not sure about it, i'm a sucker for stock android, and as i see, there isn't any custom rom here.
Are you generally satisfied with the Huawei rom? Is there anyone working on custom rom? If so, will it be any soon available? For users who are already having the phone, any regrets? Would you choose any different phone if you bought today?
Would greatly appreciate any answers,
cheers.
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Bootloader is locked, propably no roms in future. If you are in UK there are no updates. Emui comparing to stock android suck. Go for p20 pro or something else
g_oral said:
Bootloader is locked, propably no roms in future. If you are in UK there are no updates. Emui comparing to stock android suck. Go for p20 pro or something else
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Thanks!!
Emui is just soso. And the screen of p20 is rgbw LCD. That's very uncomfortable.
Hi
I am living in UK and one of my chinese friend want to buy a new phone but not Apple.... He asked me and i was suggest P20. Now he want it to buy in China but using it in UK. So my question is the chinese OS will work in UK without limitations? I mean google map, google translation etc.? Or is only one "global" OS on P20 not like Oneplus where is HydrogenOS in Chinese region and OxygenOS for Europe etc.?
I want a New phone and I would be using it in Canada. I have been looking mostly on Aliexpress
because I can save quite a bit of money. I am looking for a Motorola because suppose to be clean android and
little or no Bloatware at least the version from Canada. I know nothing about downloading Roms and don't know the meaning of what Rooting is
so I have to keep things simple. My dilemma is do I get a Global Version because I will get OTA updates with no hassle or a Chinese Version that the seller has flashed a Global Rom on? The Chinese with the global rom may or may not get OTA updates but is cheaper than a True Global Version from Aliexpress.
The seller says I can update the phone myself? I don't mind updating if the phone notifies me of an update and I just have to Tap to install
but I don't know if it is that easy? What should I do?
Also Motorola doesn't have any Global Version I can find like Xiaomi has but even they do not have all models in Global Versions.
I would never buy a phone off AliExpress because this seller is known to sell fake produccts.
Generally, AliExpress is a great place to source your merchandise only if you know how to find genuine products on the site.
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(...) I have been looking mostly on Aliexpress
because I can save quite a bit of money. (...)
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By looking for cheap buys and not knowing anything about the device, you really won't save anything.
In my opinion, it will be better for you if you buy on the local secondary market a phone from a year or two ago, which was categorized as mid-range on the day of its release.
Be careful with any to good to be offer's! Do your homework while shopping...
Yes I know about that. A genuine seller has the money back guarantee protection through aliexpress. The sub par ones do not. I bought a Redmi Note 8 Pro 3 years ago with no problems.
Done lots of homework. When I see a Samsung S22 for $200 I know it's a fake.
The sellers with the guarantee are what I look for.
So now we have got past about shopping on Aliexpress
Is anyone going to comment if the Chinese with a global rom be ok given my skill level or forget it and only buy a true "Global Version"?
My only problem about the CN/Global Rom is getting system and security updates.
Updates get rolled by OEM if they deem it necessary. Has nothing to do what ROM initially is flashed. Providing updates causes enormous costs, which OEMs naturally try to avoid because it reduces the profit margin.
Only with Google devices ( AOSP based ) you can be sure to always get latest updates.
So why then if you buy a Chinese phone flashed with a Global Rom the sellers says OTA updates not supported?
1. My understanding: Global ROM, as also Chinese ROM, is software, whereas Global Version is hardware. But I may err as always.
2. OTA stands for Over the Air ( FOTA – Firmware Over the Air ). It refers to the wireless delivery of new or updated software or firmware to devices such as smartphones and tablets.
The OTA process is self-explanatory in that it delivers updated software wirelessly or ‘over the air’. These updates are distributed over Wi-Fi or mobile broadband using a function built into the smartphone or tablet’s operating system or through a special OTA app that’s given root access. The update goes out to all the designated smartphones or tablets from one central control panel.
I am following you sort of. I know that updates are sent OTA.
What I need to know is how will I get these software and firmware update if the seller is saying "OTA updates" not supported after they install the Global Rom?
My experience so far with pervious cell phones is this process happens automatically with maybe the hardest thing to do is accept it by a Tap.
If this process is complicated because it is not supported I can't continue about thinking to buy as I am not a Tech Savvy cell phone guy.
the answer is very simple: you have to take care of possible updates yourself
No Problem but is it easy like a matter of Tap Yes to update or is like loading another updated Rom?
I don't know if you figured it out or not but in my opinion if you are saving a good amount go for Chinese version and you can simply flash a global one and root your device to get your device certified
Updates will not be the issue you can install the updates the only issue will be after every update you have to root your device again
As you said you don't know how to root. root is something you should have at least basic knowledge to do soo otherwise you may brick your device
So facts are Infront of you if you still think it's worth buying and you can manage the struggle