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I'm currently working on a Bugtracker for the xda-developers (my own project - wasn't asked by anybody)
The idea behind it is to allow:
The Developers to see what bugs are outstanding
The user to submit their problems
The curious to see which ROM has less bugs
The n00bs to do research before asking questions (and have more places to spam)
I'm not planning to replace the forums, I just want to make an extra tool that can be used along side the forums - but is neater for bug reporting
Feel free to post your thoughts on if you like it (and so what should be included) or if you don't like it (and so what should replace it, if anything)
Thanks!
Hey, that's very nice.
But.. Are we talking about a new website? or just a new thread?
DaVince said:
Hey, that's very nice.
But.. Are we talking about a new website? or just a new thread?
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Entirely new website.
It will be hosted on my http://www.vidmes.com webserver
i voted approving the bugtracker but i like the idea of all the information about universal development being centralized in one only location.
so, i think it would be interesting to keep it in this forum.
It's ok, we'll just have a sticky thread that has a link to TehPenguin's site.
I vote you go for it TehPenguin.
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It's ok, we'll just have a sticky thread that has a link to TehPenguin's site.
I vote you go for it TehPenguin.
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Well, I've done some tentative work on it - and its looking good (if a little bare - I'm a software developer, not a web designer )
I'm a little busy this week, so its going to be about 2 weeks before I announce the link for the Beta
In the mean time, I'd like suggestions as to what people want in it
(Also, I notice one negative vote - I'd like to see their argument....)
Thanks!
Great Idea
I think mandatory information should be
1) Device Vendor...ie Imate, XDA etc
2) Radio stack in use
3) OS Rom in use
4) Third party software installed ( I know this list can be big, I myself have well over 100 apps as std) but is important for diagnosing bugs. Perhaps we could get an AppMgr listing from each system, not too hard to obtain.
You could also go overboard a little and have a PDA page, browseable from our Uni's so nothing graphics intensive or fancy. A simple login dialogue ( Can we port XDA-Dev user accounts?) once the user has logged in, they fill in a basic form with the bug description, click on submit and we could pull the information in points 1 to 4 above off of the device with a script.
Just my 50pence worth.
Great idea m8, hope it gets somewhere.............let me know if I can help with anything.
Cheers,
Beast
yes! would be really helpful for cooks
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I think mandatory information should be
1) Device Vendor...ie Imate, XDA etc
2) Radio stack in use
3) OS Rom in use
4) Third party software installed ( I know this list can be big, I myself have well over 100 apps as std) but is important for diagnosing bugs. Perhaps we could get an AppMgr listing from each system, not too hard to obtain.
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What I was planning to do with this is to have them describe a "Bug" in very generic terms as the Bug's description. Then they are required to add a comment (which other people may add) - this comment would have a "template" which would have things such as vendor, radio (I didn't actually think of this one), etc...
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You could also go overboard a little and have a PDA page, browseable from our Uni's so nothing graphics intensive or fancy. A simple login dialogue ( Can we port XDA-Dev user accounts?) once the user has logged in, they fill in a basic form with the bug description, click on submit and we could pull the information in points 1 to 4 above off of the device with a script.
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Some good ideas but....
I can't actually get info from the xda-developer's forums database - this may be a security risk on their behalf and would require far to much messing around to organise (as much as I would like to do it)
You will be able to view the page on your PDA's - its _very_ basic and I'll try to keep it xHTML complaint and do fanciness with CSS (though at the moment it does use some table hax)
Pulling info out of the PDA is virtually impossible (unless I build an app for the PDA's.... maybe later ) since the pda only tells me what browser version it is using
Either way - these are the things I like to see - Ideas!!!!
Keep them coming!
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It's ok, we'll just have a sticky thread that has a link to TehPenguin's site.
I vote you go for it TehPenguin.
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I totally agree with DaVince, having a bug tracking website would be cool and having a link directly to the site via xda-developers is a good idea. Keeping everything centralised and available for use by everyone who uses xda-developers.
You have my vote! Would be a great tool...
gsmknight
TehPenguin said:
What I was planning to do with this is to have them describe a "Bug" in very generic terms as the Bug's description. Then they are required to add a comment (which other people may add) - this comment would have a "template" which would have things such as vendor, radio (I didn't actually think of this one), etc...
Some good ideas but....
I can't actually get info from the xda-developer's forums database - this may be a security risk on their behalf and would require far to much messing around to organise (as much as I would like to do it)
You will be able to view the page on your PDA's - its _very_ basic and I'll try to keep it xHTML complaint and do fanciness with CSS (though at the moment it does use some table hax)
Pulling info out of the PDA is virtually impossible (unless I build an app for the PDA's.... maybe later ) since the pda only tells me what browser version it is using
Either way - these are the things I like to see - Ideas!!!!
Keep them coming!
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Hi TehPenguin,
Surely we can run a JScript or Vbs through the PPC Browser to get the required data from the Reg, only a couple of RegReads!
Just another thought............... I prefer accurate information, the reg is less likely to make mistakes than a user!! (No offence intended to anyone)
L8r,
Beast
Bugtracker
Hi,
Would be great to have this.
Looking forward
Leo
Why not use one of the many bugtrackers already out there? I prefer Flyspray (http://www.flyspray.org/) since it's as mighty as Mantis, but more Web 2.0 ... and you should be able to browse it on your PPC, although I don't think anybody really wants this ...
Cheers,
-mARKUS
P.S.: As for getting registry stuff through the PPC ... I doubt you can read out the registry by a JavaScript running on the page itself. Also there are many geeks out there who use Resco so they could easily export a .reg-file and attach it to the report.
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Why not use one of the many bugtrackers already out there? I prefer Flyspray (http://www.flyspray.org/) since it's as mighty as Mantis, but more Web 2.0 ... and you should be able to browse it on your PPC, although I don't think anybody really wants this ...
Cheers,
-mARKUS
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I've had a look at at a number of bug reporting systems - the problem with them is that I'd have to end up customising it quite a bit anyway. For instance, they are typically designed for one program, possibly with options to support different parts\plug-ins for these programs. My design involves having multiple "Devices" each with multiple "ROMs", which may be deprecated, and each of these ROMs have multiple bugs - thats a couple more levels of complexity than the average bug tracker can handle.
Although they are more "Web 2.0" the Javasript\other fanciness would make it difficult to view on a PDA. Personally I prefer the old style Web 1.0 and a PHP back end
The other advantage of me making it is that you guys can have, almost, anything you want - and it should be done as soon as I have time, seeing as I know the code intimately.
And the point I really like - I love coding
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P.S.: As for getting registry stuff through the PPC ... I doubt you can read out the registry by a JavaScript running on the page itself. Also there are many geeks out there who use Resco so they could easily export a .reg-file and attach it to the report.
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Exporting a reg file is the only possibility. Due to "security" problems, no script can actually see the registry of the device (or your PC for that matter), except what is in the "User Agent" key.
I'll put it on the "TODO" list to make a .NET program that automatically dumps your settings and creates a bug report
Given time, this can become quite beautiful. And time is now something that I will have - since I'm on holidays for the next few weeks!! (Yay for no more exams!!)
The alpha version is almost finished
I'll put a link up onto WM-Gurus for the final testing stage of the Alpha and see how it goes
Once the Alpha is complete (ie not too buggy) I'll put the link for the Beta here
Enjoy!
this is really a great idea.
i hope all goes well...
thanks to all!
Okay,
ALPHA VERSION IS NOW AVAILABLE!!!!
You can see it by going to: http://xdabugs.vidmes.com
Feel free to register or use the following users:
Username "test" password "testing" (Access level - registered user)
Username "dev" password "dev" (Access level - developer)
Username "admin" password "password" (Access level - administrator)
PLEASE NOTE: At the end of the Alpha stage, ALL DATA WILL BE CLEARED FROM THE DATABASE!
What I need people to do:
Look for bugs
Write the Help\FAQ sections
Ask me questions so I can write the Help\FAQ sections
See what else is needed
Enjoy!!
Hello everyone. I've a sort of proposal for the developers here, but before I get into that let me first briefly introduce myself:
I'm a communication designer for print, user interface, and illustration that completely advocates everything Android. I've been lurking the Dream development forums here for quite some time, trying to keep up-to-date with the latest ROMs, apps, etc., etc and I fully appreciate everything that goes on here and the endeavors that you devs put yourself through. Amazing stuff, really.
One thing I've noticed is that there are a slew of third-party / beta apps all over these boards, and other places on the internet as well. More often than not, I find myself scouring the cloud just to find a link for these non-market apps, and I usually get referred to them via some obscure site through another site. Despite getting the .apk file or ROM in the end, the process can get to be a bit tedious; especially for incoming users and those new to the Android platform.
My proposal is this: A website with a simple and clean user interface that has direct and succinct navigation with the purpose of consolidating and listing third-party / beta non-market applications into an easy access database. This website database would link these applications and have them be easily downloaded and installed via the Android browser, without having to mount the device.
I've actually come up with a fully-functional concept site, did the branding and everything for it, and also registered a short domain name for quick access while on your G1 or whatever Android device.
Navigate to: http://anda.pk to see what I had in mind, and how the overall layout/concept of the site would work.
I uploaded several .apk files I had backed up as examples for you to see how the database section would function. I also took into account the resolution of most Android phones and made the .apk application database section fit perfectly in the Android browser when in portrait mode right when you the load the site to ensure the best possible user experience when installing these third party apps. When you scroll to the right, you'll see info on what the site is about, and in the footer there are links to the FAQ, the about section, contact, etc.
I had also noted in the about link in the footer that the applications hosted on the download section are in no way accredited to the site, and that credit goes to their rightful developers. My being a communication designer has had the idea of peer collaboration engrained, and as such I give credit it where credit is due.
That said, I hope you guys here and the developers collaborate with me on on this site, possibly help contribute apks, and agree to them being hosted. If anything, I do hope you just embrace the concept, which originally was just going to be a reference for myself and my friends whom I've turned away from the iPhone, S60, and WinMo in favor of Android. I figured since I know the Android community is only going to get bigger, this website concept of mine could be a decent resource to have bookmarked.
Appreciate you reading this wall of text! Do hope to hear some feedback, so let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
Cheers.
I think this is a fabulous idea...automated version control would go over very well -- i.e. yum update
you should post up bits that you need help with and have folks contact you.
also..I love the logo!
question: do you propose a rating system or a review prior to listing type of approach or something new to keep this resource trustworthy?
Been following this on SA and twitter and it's a great idea.
Having the devs here on board would be a fantastic way to get something solid on the go. It's the kind of thing that can really help android become more hackable and useable for the average user...and it just make things easier for the rest of us.
Sounds good to me.
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Credit and accreditation are different things. To be accredited is to be given credentials or official approval. I think you meant "credited".
Sounds like a GREAT idea.
My opinion: The color scheme hurts. Love the logo.
i like the logo and the idea. I think the site should be more mobile friendly, or even better, an application for android that can work like the official market. I could help with that part if an application is going to be built.
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i like the logo and the idea. I think the site should be more mobile friendly, or even better, an application for android that can work like the official market. I could help with that part if an application is going to be built.
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i second that.. it should also have update checks if possible
I was going to complain that I didn't like your site layout, but in portrait mode you only see the left side which lists the apps. I like it.
One thing you might have to be leary of is dealing with apps that are considered warez unless your going to spend the time to verify every app that is uploaded or there has to a method in place.
As well there should be some kind of version control in place. You know what works on 1.1 and what works on 1.5. Obviously almost everybody within the next few weeks/months should be on 1.5, but will all the older apps run on 1.5 or does it really matter or does anybody care? The downloader will care.
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Sounds like a GREAT idea.
My opinion: The color scheme hurts. Love the logo.
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Seconded. The text is much too light. A darker charcoal shade would be much better.
If the site gets an apk wrapper (a la FBook) version checking would be rather easy. Set up the directory tree something like this /downloads/WiFiTether/1.2.3.apk and just have the apk compare filenames. If the file names don't match, it needs to install the update.
EDIT: Now following your progress on twitter.
Some solid input. I'll play around with the color scheme and make some changes later this evening once I get back from class. And I actually do plan on making a mobile wrapper eventually, but as it stands as far as the concept layout goes, the site is best used when in portrait mode for easiest functionality. The rest of the site is to be considered supplemental. I do however, have a lot of things I eventually want to integrate; application tags, search, possibility of user uploaded apk files, etc. But for right now, I'm trying to keep the general site as simple as possible to make the workload on my end less stressful (graduating in 2 weeks).
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If the site gets an apk wrapper (a la FBook) version checking would be rather easy. Set up the directory tree something like this /downloads/WiFiTether/1.2.3.apk and just have the apk compare filenames. If the file names don't match, it needs to install the update.
EDIT: Now following your progress on twitter.
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Did not know how that version checker worked. Thanks. I'll re-work the apk directory scheme akin to that later tonight for when I do eventually get the wrapper up.
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Did not know how that version checker worked. Thanks. I'll re-work the apk directory scheme akin to that later tonight for when I do eventually get the wrapper up.
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That's not necessarily how most version checks work, but that's the simplest method I could think of, and probably one of the easiest to implement.
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I think this is a fabulous idea...automated version control would go over very well -- i.e. yum update
you should post up bits that you need help with and have folks contact you.
also..I love the logo!
question: do you propose a rating system or a review prior to listing type of approach or something new to keep this resource trustworthy?
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Thanks! And I feel I might need some help in the future as far as implementing the features that I want to get working. But I'm not quite sure I understand your question. Are you referring to how I choose which applications get posted onto the site?
i'm a graphic designer and web designer, i'll throw in a helping hand if you want, pm me or whatever.
(think about an android based layout to bring it to the phone like Cough*cydia*cough
very cool and much needed
Xda-dev is great, but there is alot of stuff thats not on the market and they have shown to bow down to the tmobs pressure(ie: tether app) so another place to get apps would be great, and your weppage is beautiful and looks like it would be very finger friendly on the g1, but there is a basic model in linux of repositories(which is about what ur doing) and a simple app to d/l them maybe somebody could just make a market.apk with a modded addy, depending on how much is known about the market and its inner workings... it would be nice to do it as it has been always done....but as I stated above your webdesign is very nice and would work well in the native browser(im heading there now on my g1)
bhang
not a bad idea. I think this is great for all verified apps that are pulled from market...
I really like this idea. Go for it.
Just one (stupid) remark about the logo... it's like it has a big nose and a :-| expression... sorry
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I really like this idea. Go for it.
Just one (stupid) remark about the logo... it's like it has a big nose and a :-| expression... sorry
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Haha, I just noticed that actually. Now it's all I see. But yeah, I'm hoping to have a few more apps to upload by the end of next week. Revisions to the site are imminent once I get out of this last class.
I love the idea. One bookmark to check up on all the good non-market apps will be much easier than having several bookmarked threads.
Some applications may benefit from having tags such as [beta], [stable], [experimental], [contains-ads], etc.
As others have mentioned once/if user uploads are implemented an app approval system will be crucial to keep the spam at bay. I can see this really taking off.
im a supporter
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im a supporter
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+1 this sounds like a great idea, there was something like this for apps for the dash,mda & sda.
Hi all,
I have a concept for a single update application that would be driven from the AndroidSPIN release database so all developers could use it for ROM, Themes, Applications and anything releases to devices.
If you wouldn't mind taking a couple of minutes to read this post, I would greatly appreciate it.
http://www.androidspin.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=260&t=226
I'd really love to get a group together to collaborate and either help design this and/or write an application and back end to do it.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks
Simon
Sounds like an awesome idea, I'd love to help any way I can, but I dont fit in any of the needed positions for the post. Looking forward to see what develops though
Fantastic idea!
I only ever use XDA so god knows what I'm missing out on elsewhere and to be honest after searching the word android on google and trawling through one crap site after another becomes tiresome so hence the 'XDA only' policy.
Sorry I can't offer any programming skills but you have my support on this project whole heartedly, not that it counts for much I know buh MeH!
Hope you can get this off the ground.
As I mentioned to Simon already, I was thinking about building an update application for my ROM. I love the idea of having an on-phone ROM database, update capability, something that can easily be used by any developer in the community.
Some initial thoughts on functionality:
- Browse ROMs
- Download ROMs to SD Card
- Monitor specific ROMs for updates
- Monitor currently running ROM for updates
I'm willing to lend a hand on the Android side of things, but this will be a large undertaking and we will also need some people to contribute to the UI, server side of things, etc.
I do iPhone UI design for applications now (I don't have an iPhone, but most of my contracts and clients are iPhone based), but let me know and I can whip up anything you guys need UI related.
Send me a PM and I can get the ball rolling on how the functionality can be laid out as well.
Even tho I know I wouldnt be able to help out with this. I know I would love to test this out if you needed it.
Its a great idea!!!
I know a teeny bit of Java, and I'm working on becoming an Android developer, so if anything needs doing on the Android side of things, I'm willing to contribute.
Although I may not know as much as some others, I'm definitely a fast learner. I have a few books on Android development I'm reading through right now.
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I know a teeny bit of Java, and I'm working on becoming an Android developer, so if anything needs doing on the Android side of things, I'm willing to contribute.
Although I may not know as much as some others, I'm definitely a fast learner. I have a few books on Android development I'm reading through right now.
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Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
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Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
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Well, of course.
If anything else needs doing, however, I volunteer what spare time I have.
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Well, we can reuse a lot of code from Cyanogen updater.
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Could be easily done, would require quite a lot of laborious work ripping out all the stuff you wouldn't need though.
I would take a look at this but unfortunately I have another Android project on at the moment which is taking all my development spare time.
@SimonNWalker What sort of backend having you got going? REST? SOAP?
Ups wrong theread
not that it matters (since i kept the source 100% open)....
you have my blessing to tear the cmupdater to shreds if it will give us a unified solution to all our ROM cravings
firefart has done a good job of keeping the code pretty clean so there shouldnt be too many issues with grabbing it
and the new code for the screenshots for themes could probably be used to the advantage of this project with ease
I'm not really interested in a rom updater, but a market replacement with an "upgrade all" feature (à la apt-get / yum) drawing from multiple repositories would be most exciting.
The Cyanogen updater could be used, it just needs some modifications. Stuff like sub-sections and update all
Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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The only other method I would consider, besides JSON, is an advanced and well thought out web-based form that the developer is forced to complete upon uploading a ROM. This would place more burden on the server, but should be relatively easy to attach the provided ROM information to the rom database.
Think: Check boxes for firmware compatibilities, check boxes for device compatibilities, version number, change log, etc.
Maybe something a little like this?
Wow this would be/ is gonna be awsome!
I would suggest also that you can backup your sd card settings (and maybe also sms...) to an ftp server (or some other server you can install on your pc) from this app...
like (incremential) backup>partition>wipe>install update>boot>getbackupback
problem is to get the server adress back after wipe. maybe stored in web database and encrypted with phone imei number? or uploaded as google
whatever...
or just not wiping that single adress
just saying ^^
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Would probably need a new method to keep track of the updates aswell, I don't think json would be sufficient for a lot of applications and updates. Unless somebody could make some kind of script to automate the process when it gets uploaded.
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JSON is just a file format. The CM Updater works via a static JSON file that gets updated manually. The way I'd design this (which is what I asked a couple of posts back) is a dynamic web service (probably REST based) which delivered JSON dynamically. Wouldn't be too difficult at all.
As SimonWalker said he's using PHP + MySQL I'm guessing that's already being done.
@garok89: CM Updater is completely open-source therefore blessings are not needed to use the source. Really don't understand all the "credit" crap here on XDA.
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@garok89: CM Updater is completely open-source therefore blessings are not needed to use the source. Really don't understand all the "credit" crap here on XDA.
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I know it is open and I don't need to give my blessing for people to use the source. I did so because a lot of people don't feel comfortable using other peoples code without permission, regardless of whether or not its 100% open source.
And as for the 'credit crap'... I don't see you asking for your name to be removed from the 'about' section of the app
I am not asking for any credit
Anyway, lets not get off topic...
Guys, before this becomes Android Open Alliance, the sequel (you all remember how that went), I think we better set up a way to work together first and then toss in the speculative stuff later.
How about starting simple; set up a wave?
hey guys just wondering if anyone would be able to creatte this app.
The Iphone has such an app only cause the iphone is mainstream in aust but yeah. Was just yeah wondering if someone could port it over to android either 2.2 or 2.1 idc. but would be happy to pay as yeah i want to be the "different bloke"
as the pilot as i have the nexus one and everyone else (11) others own a iphone so yeah thanks
care to explain wtf it is/does?
and are you from australia?
well its a air services site that provides weather for pilots.
it is created by the buero of meteorology and then compiled and put out over different forms, i.e an app or a computer program or radio and such
yes i am australian and most that i know havent a clue how to make such a thing
i would give you links but it says i cant. i must be new lol.
I have considered developing simply to create this app.
Pweese I know at least 50people that would be willing to pay. Would bee so awesome
I'm the developer of the iPhone version of NAIPS - I had a quick look at android however it looks like way too much work for personally minimal gain for me (I don't even have an android phone). If I did do it one day - it would probably have minimal features as it would require a 100% rewrite. Plus I'm currently focusing on getting ERSA etc onto iPad/iPhone (after work & family).
Maybe a bunch of people could pay some firm in China/India to write a version? Or just a simple version (with Airservices' permission) that does location briefings etc?
I'm the developer of the iPhone version of NAIPS - I had a quick look at android however it looks like way too much work for personally minimal gain for me (I don't even have an android phone). If I did do it one day - it would probably have minimal features as it would require a 100% rewrite. Plus I'm currently focusing on getting ERSA etc onto iPad/iPhone (after work & family).
Maybe a bunch of people could pay some firm in China/India to write a version? Or just a simple version (with Airservices' permission) that does location briefings etc?
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That's cool. Can you provide some details as to the source of the data? There are plenty of open source weather apps, one could possibly bee modified to get data from that source
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I'm the developer of the iPhone version of NAIPS - I had a quick look at android however it looks like way too much work for personally minimal gain for me (I don't even have an android phone). If I did do it one day - it would probably have minimal features as it would require a 100% rewrite. Plus I'm currently focusing on getting ERSA etc onto iPad/iPhone (after work & family).
Maybe a bunch of people could pay some firm in China/India to write a version? Or just a simple version (with Airservices' permission) that does location briefings etc?
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Ah, i have been reading your posts on PPruNe forums, if i do get my act together and start writing a similar app for android, do you mind if i contact you then for bits of information (ie what ASA said regarding scraping their material etc.)?
Also, just out of personal interest, what and where do you fly?
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Sent from my computer using a keyboard.
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you had me laughing my ASSS off tonight, hahaha!
too funny, I'm sorry for going off topic.
That's cool. Can you provide some details as to the source of the data?
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You basically have to emulate the website by sending off HTML get/post requests as per their html code. There are no documented protocols or anything.
do you mind if i contact you then for bits of information
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Not at all - visit ozrunways.com and send me a message on the 'contact me' page so I don't have to write my email address on a public forum.
We need more small cheap pilot apps available. I've made a bit of coin out of NAIPS but it's still far less than what I would get if I spent my time flipping burgers at McDonalds. Don't get too excited !!
Also, just out of personal interest, what and where do you fly?
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P3 Orion - the cold war relic
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Ah, i have been reading your posts on PPruNe forums, if i do get my act together and start writing a similar app for android, do you mind if i contact you then for bits of information (ie what ASA said regarding scraping their material etc.)?
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Hey mate, just wondering if there has been any progress on developing a NAIPS based app for android yet. Because if there has been I would be keenly interested in it.
Not yet. There is no paid app store for Australia yet.
i'm interested to work on this app and it would be free app. however i'm very new to android and still learning.
my first app is KL Web Traffic which you can find on android market. if i know how to get the data and what this app do i don't mind working on it so i can improve my java/android programming skills.
Replying to a 3 year old thread because this app was the only thing keeping a mate of mine on IOS, and this is one of the top hits on Google search.
Check out thttps://sites.google.com/a/juddy.net/android/naips
There are a few now. "NOTAM Filter" is available on the play store and does Met and NOTAMs including areas.
Hello XDA,
I'm releasing a modified version of Kik to the public. This is version 7.9 - without video playback support. I created this in January after discovering an exploit within Kik Messenger that allowed me to crash other users. This gave birth to what are known as "lag codes", which are long strings that cause instability within Kik.
If you're on kik and people post strings like:
0la.3p.snai7.eo.490.0la.3p.snai7.eo.490.0la.3p.snai7.eo.490.0la.3p.snai7.eo.490.(etc)(shout out to TL1 for his work in this area)
you will lag, ios and android are affected by this.
I have modified the parser within Kik to stop those short lag codes from causing lag.
I issued these Pikik clients to only a handful of individuals (hardcoded their usernames and disabled editing) , typically being used to crash pedophile chatrooms. Someone in this handful decided to leak the file. They attached AndroRat and distributed it under my credibility and name and I don't appreciate that.
The exploit (along with other exploits I've discovered) and suggested fixes have been emailed to Kik without reply.
This is version 7.9 without video support. You can do the same with 8.0+ as I have done but I don't want to distribute that yet. as I'd like to make a menu via smali to add additional features to Kik. (Confirmed fake camera is possible among other things) Hopefully within that time, Kik will patch the exploits I've emailed them about.
Please be respectful to one another with Pikik, it can cause issues for other users without Pikik if you so choose.
I will create additional links if necessary. Happy Easter.
May 6 update:
Added Kik 8.0apk for video playback. Added another layer of lag protection.
-gunther210
Admin note: APK has been removed due to legal complaint from Kik. Do not re-upload. https://github.com/xda/Notices/blob/master/2015/Kik-20150624.md
Warning, I would not recommend trusting. The app was leaked. Gunther stated that he would release the application to the public in the month of July.
424aca said:
Warning, I would not recommend trusting. The app was leaked. Gunther stated that he would release the application to the public in the month of July.
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Hey mate, that wasn't the case.
I planned to publish the technical details of the xss exploit within kik.com in July but that also leaked.
I encourage anyone to decompile this apk and look for anything malicious or suspicious if they don't trust it. It isn't my style to do that.
I understand you're just looking out for the community.
Take care mate.
Apologies and Results
Yah sorry to come out as aggressive or as if I was pointing fingers. If you are truly gunther, then you are very much aware of the presence of individuals on kik who post links which intercept IP's and I see a new exploit regarding a phishing link "video" with your name on it etc. I just want individuals to be careful. Because I made seemingly false accusations, I have done the task of running a scan on the app in a virtual machine (genymotion) running a various security scans on it. Only avast gave a security warning, but upon rescan it was gone. I have uploaded four images of four different tests. Please, proceed with caution for this application is as wonderful as you anticipate it to be. To those that have root and xposed, i would advise using I believe xprivacy to block any SMS or call log interaction which this app may present if the proof supplied below does not suffice your paranoia which I seem to be having right now.
-424aca
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Thx for the tests.
I'm aware of the games being played on Kik. That's not likely to go away but their lack of willingness to correct the problems leaves everyone vulnerable. At least this protects a regular user from another regular user being annoying. The xss exploit needs to be patched immediately. The amount of people getting phished is amazing. I regret sharing info about that exploit.
As I mentioned long ago to anyone on Kik who asks the status quo kik hacker question "can you get ips thru kik?" My response has always been the image handler. The way kik handles their images has been exploitable forever but I'm not yet certain to what degree. After reporting the 2 "main" exploits to Kik, I moved onto checking out my suspicions and getting some confirmation/vindication.
The entire handler for images is a wreck. It's possible to create corrupt image headers (see my pastebin) which will crash Android upon receiving said picture. It's possible to create corrupt image headers to get IP addresses via images (confirmed on iOS by Host 4/6/2015). It's possible to create corrupt image headers to crash Android for lack of associated action.
It's possible to send videos as Gallery, Gallery as Camera, Camera as "Gunther", custom icons, and most likely offsite pngs (apache log taps). It is possible to build a card that exploits these same flaws but with more parameters. The card:// handler is probably only "more secure" because less people use it.
The fact that I can send you a picture that crashes your kik is absurd and it was obvious to me this style of attack would be possible from the first glance at it.
I like Kik but it is a dangerous hangout lately.
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Yah sorry to come out as aggressive or as if I was pointing fingers. If you are truly gunther, then you are very much aware of the presence of individuals on kik who post links which intercept IP's and I see a new exploit regarding a phishing link "video" with your name on it etc. I just want individuals to be careful. Because I made seemingly false accusations, I have done the task of running a scan on the app in a virtual machine (genymotion) running a various security scans on it. Only avast gave a security warning, but upon rescan it was gone. I have uploaded four images of four different tests. Please, proceed with caution for this application is as wonderful as you anticipate it to be. To those that have root and xposed, i would advise using I believe xprivacy to block any SMS or call log interaction which this app may present if the proof supplied below does not suffice your paranoia which I seem to be having right now.
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So is it safe or not?
I don't like its dark background. Fix it
PrinceCoc said:
I don't like its dark background. Fix it
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I changed mine to white.
I recommended you do not try this app. Probably the maker of this modified version add some malicious things. Or something for stealing personal infos
GreekDragon said:
I recommended you do not try this app. Probably the maker of this modified version add some malicious things. Or something for stealing personal infos
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Damn I've already been using it
GreekDragon said:
I recommended you do not try this app. Probably the maker of this modified version add some malicious things. Or something for stealing personal infos
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I didn't. Instead of talking dumb ****, why don't you decompile it and check for yourself. I have no desire to take anyone's info.
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Damn I've already been using it
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You're fine mate.
Me Host and Link have been working together on adding several features for pikik2 and their similar releases.
For now pikik2 will be:
Based on 8.1.x
Probable:
Turn off read receipts (Host)
Turn off typing notification (Host)
AntiLagV2 (Gunther)
Fake-Camera Mod (Gunther)
AntiLagv2 secondary check (Link)
(Theme choices by download if below doesn't work)
Possible:
Turning links on/off
AntiLagv2 override by conditional regex by input
Selectable Theme by input
Selectable Image background (Link/Host)*
*This works now but needs some more tweaking.
If you or someone you know is a smali pro, please PM me.
We are hoping to build these ideas as switches from a panel within kik
Also. If you're interested in building an Xposed Module to do these things, please PM me and I will help point to where the above things are taking place.
All credits will be given
If someone wants to reach us on kik. Check in #pikik
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I didn't. Instead of talking dumb ****, why don't you decompile it and check for yourself. I have no desire to take anyone's info.
You're fine mate.
Me Host and Link have been working together on adding several features for pikik2 and their similar releases.
For now pikik2 will be:
Based on 8.1.x
Probable:
Turn off read receipts (Host)
Turn off typing notification (Host)
AntiLagV2 (Gunther)
Fake-Camera Mod (Gunther)
AntiLagv2 secondary check (Link)
(Theme choices by download if below doesn't work)
Possible:
Turning links on/off
AntiLagv2 override by conditional regex by input
Selectable Theme by input
Selectable Image background (Link)
If you or someone you know is a smali pro, please PM me.
We are hoping to build these ideas as switches from a panel within kik
Also. If you're interested in building an Xposed Module to do these things, please PM me and I will help point to where the above things are taking place.
All credits will be given
If someone wants to reach us on kik. Check in #pikik
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OK I wasn't going to delete it I just changed its appearance a bit.
NOT working?
I have tried to download the File but i keep getting an error saying I don't have the app installed when I do? Maybe it's because a recent update that I did yesterday April 14, 2016. Any help?
Delete the kik you already have
INTRUTHS said:
I have tried to download the File but i keep getting an error saying I don't have the app installed when I do? Maybe it's because a recent update that I did yesterday April 14, 2016. Any help?
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Yeah man your in the future, please tell us what its like in 2016
I reeeaally enjoy this app. Buuuut I like the new material design update (8.2.0) more. Pls update.
gallowsArisen said:
I reeeaally enjoy this app. Buuuut I like the new material design update (8.2.0) more. Pls update.
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Didn't you read the post, their working on it, if you know someone that's good with smali tell them to contact us at #pikik
theattackingdildo said:
Didn't you read the post, their working on it, if you know someone that's good with smali teller them to contact us at #pikik
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Sorry. I'll look out for anyone with experience. I'm in a few good groups so I'll ask around.
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Sorry. I'll look out for anyone with experience. I'm in a few good groups so I'll ask around.
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I'll ask some people about it.
First, let me/us say thanks for all the support. It helps keep us motivated to get pikik2 how we want it.
Updates:
We have pretty much narrowed down all the future feature locations.
We are still stuck in the same spot however.
We need a little advice or guidance on how to use toggles and inputs.
We can build the toggles, we can associate them in the places they need to be. But, we aren't sure how to do the following:
We need a generic or simple way to write and read toggle values into the database or preferences. We need to be able to pull these into smali. We are getting progress on Smali knowledge and may be able to import the values ourselves but we need to have a better understanding of how to implement this.
We want to create a check box, no problem. How do we add the value of check box (or inputs) into the db or prefs in the simplest way?
Next, how do we then read the value out of these?
We are reading to use <checkboxprefs but that's not working easy for us so far. We have tried literally hundreds of tests at this point.
My last test was duplicating the widget check box and associating it.
We need help. Someone. Give us a run down of the fastest way to what we need, please. As always, credits will be given.
Thanks mates,
gunther210
I will make a thread asking for more direct help when I have enough posts to do so. Anyone out there who has any advice, we will investigate.
Thanks again.