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[Q] Can you tell if a device is using stock firmware or custom ROM

Sorry if this is a trivial question.
Is there a way to know if a device is using the stock firmware or a custom ROM..
In my case the device is an 8.9" galaxy tab GT-7300 wifi + 3G model?
Model:
GT7300
Android Version:
3.0.1
Baseband Version:
P7300XXKE7
Kernel verson:2
.6.36.3
[email protected] #1
Build number
GT-P7300-eng 3.0.1 HRI83XXKE8 test-keys
Apreciate any help

scrambler3 said:
Sorry if this is a trivial question.
Is there a way to know if a device is using the stock firmware or a custom ROM..
In my case the device is an 8.9" galaxy tab GT-7300 wifi + 3G model?
Model:
GT7300
Android Version:
3.0.1
Baseband Version:
P7300XXKE7
Kernel verson:2
.6.36.3
[email protected] #1
Build number
GT-P7300-eng 3.0.1 HRI83XXKE8 test-keys
Apreciate any help
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Did u buy this used from someone? Do u know if it's rooted? If u aren't sure trying downloading an app that requires root and see if it works. Of it doesn't then you're stock

brandonarev said:
Did u buy this used from someone? Do u know if it's rooted? If u aren't sure trying downloading an app that requires root and see if it works. Of it doesn't then you're stock
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Yes I bought it used.
I can definitely test to see if it is rooted, hopefully the chances it has a custom Rom but was then unrooted are slim.
Thanks

Download root checker app from play store...

graphiczzz said:
Download root checker app from play store...
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^this!

scrambler3 said:
Sorry if this is a trivial question.
Is there a way to know if a device is using the stock firmware or a custom ROM..
In my case the device is an 8.9" galaxy tab GT-7300 wifi + 3G model?
Model:
GT7300
Android Version:
3.0.1
Baseband Version:
P7300XXKE7
Kernel verson:2
.6.36.3
[email protected] #1
Build number
GT-P7300-eng 3.0.1 HRI83XXKE8 test-keys
Apreciate any help
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I have tried to see if I can get the ICS update via Kies, but I get the message
your device's current firmware version is not supported to update firmware vis kies
version: PDA:KE8 / PHONE:KE7 / CSC:KE8 (XXX)
If I type *#1234# in the phone dialer I get
PDA7300XXKE8
PHONE: P7300XXKE7
CSC7300XAKE8
So i am still trying to figure out why I cant update with Keys, if it is because it is on a non Stock Firmware or if it is because I am in the US and it seems to be a UK tab.
Does someone knows if you can run Kies for an Update while in the US on a UK tablet ?
Thanks

scrambler3 said:
I have tried to see if I can get the ICS update via Kies, but I get the message
your device's current firmware version is not supported to update firmware vis kies
version: PDA:KE8 / PHONE:KE7 / CSC:KE8 (XXX)
If I type *#1234# in the phone dialer I get
PDA7300XXKE8
PHONE: P7300XXKE7
CSC7300XAKE8
So i am still trying to figure out why I cant update with Keys, if it is because it is on a non Stock Firmware or if it is because I am in the US and it seems to be a UK tab.
Does someone knows if you can run Kies for an Update while in the US on a UK tablet ?
Thanks
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If it is on a custom rom then no you cant update that way. Also might have a prob as it will not see an update as your not in the devices default country.

I don't know much about that model of phone, but I think it would be a good idea to wipe and flash a stock image - one that will give you factory recovery (not having it can stop you from getting updates - one possibility). That way you know you are starting clean.

brandonarev said:
^this!
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Yeah.... forget to read above posts...

Pennycake said:
I don't know much about that model of phone, but I think it would be a good idea to wipe and flash a stock image - one that will give you factory recovery (not having it can stop you from getting updates - one possibility). That way you know you are starting clean.
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More then that, who knows what glitches piled up while previous owner fooled around with it?
If you reset it, you will at least get stock, well-known glitches .

BalorNG said:
More then that, who knows what glitches piled up while previous owner fooled around with it?
If you reset it, you will at least get stock, well-known glitches .
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I have already reset the device, but as far as I know (read) resetting the device does not go back to a stock ROM if a custom One was installed, it only goes back to the default of the Custom ROM.

scrambler3 said:
I have already reset the device, but as far as I know (read) resetting the device does not go back to a stock ROM if a custom One was installed, it only goes back to the default of the Custom ROM.
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Hmm, I guess you are right. I mixed up 'rooting' and 'custom roms'.
By the way, I suppose custom rom does not even have to be rooted. so 'root checker' might a good, but not 100% accurate check.
Just reflash an other ROM, a stock one perhaps? Or some other one, that suits you better?

scrambler3 said:
I have already reset the device, but as far as I know (read) resetting the device does not go back to a stock ROM if a custom One was installed, it only goes back to the default of the Custom ROM.
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This is why I recommend you re-flash stock with factory recovery using a computer, not just the "factory reset" option in the phone.
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I would recommend simply finding your stock firmware and flashing it. That should do the trick. Or you can just find another ROM, why disable the goodyness of having a rooter phone by unrooting it?

Eddie^^ said:
I would recommend simply finding your stock firmware and flashing it. That should do the trick. Or you can just find another ROM, why disable the goodyness of having a rooter phone by unrooting it?
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A new twist has surfaced.
First it appears that KE8 is a samsung firmware so i am on stock
But the twist is that this tablet as a fully functional Phone dialer in the Samsung mini app panel and can place and receive phone calls.
Doing some research I found out normally none of these tablets have phone functionality except some of the early demo models.
So either the previous owner had found a way to add phone capabilities to the stock firmware, or it is one of the early models (after all it is running 3.0.1).
In both cases, I would guess it means that if I update to a more recent stock firmware, I will likely loose phone capabilities.
Does someone know if there is a way to find out if a firmware has phone support?
Is there a way to backup the current firmware in the tablet before flashing a new one so I could go back to it ?
Thanks to all for the answers so far!

[Q] Root D85010f

Hey guys,
So I just got the G3 last week, and an update rolled out from AT&T. Me being the idiot I am thought it was the Lollipop update so I updated it. Turns out, it was just 10f.
Then when I looked for ways to root the G3, all the methods required the software to be on 10d, not f.
What should I do?
Any help is much appreciated.

Use the bruteforce method in Stump root.
see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/att-d85010f-update-stump-root-t2953063

You are certain it'll work for 10f?

sympathizer said:
You are certain it'll work for 10f?
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100%. I rooted on 10f using stump.
In addition, if you plan on rooting a device and you know there is an update, please wait to install the update until you know a root method is found.

aybarrap1 said:
100%. I rooted on 10f using stump.
In addition, if you plan on rooting a device and you know there is an update, please wait to install the update until you know a root method is found.
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Will do.
Thanks a lot!

Not rooting
sympathizer said:
Will do.
Thanks a lot!
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I too am trying to root d850 10f with bruteforce on stumproot...mine will not do it though, keeps saying device is not supported after about 7 minutes of trying. Any ideas? (Yes, i know, shouldnt have installed the darn update), but i keep seeing people rooting 10f no problem with stump, although mine wont.

esanger22 said:
I too am trying to root d850 10f with bruteforce on stumproot...mine will not do it though, keeps saying device is not supported after about 7 minutes of trying. Any ideas? (Yes, i know, shouldnt have installed the darn update), but i keep seeing people rooting 10f no problem with stump, although mine wont.
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You can always flash back to the older version 10d in the return to stock thread.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Premium HD app

Intub8 said:
You can always flash back to the older version 10d in the return to stock thread.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Premium HD app
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This is what I would do. It is possible you got a bad OTA as well. Did you factory reset after the OTA? I have seen many cases on forums where a factory reset takes care of many issues after an OTA.
Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk

esanger22 said:
I too am trying to root d850 10f with bruteforce on stumproot...mine will not do it though, keeps saying device is not supported after about 7 minutes of trying. Any ideas? (Yes, i know, shouldnt have installed the darn update), but i keep seeing people rooting 10f no problem with stump, although mine wont.
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I don't know man, do you have the correct app installed? Mine went through smoothly in less than 5 minutes.

I just did this - now i am trying to bump the device. So my memory is relatively fresh
Reboot for fresh start - Run Stump - it will say device not supported - try brute force - let it run - takes 5 - 7 and maybe 10 min after which it says "reboot" device - then go ahead and reboot device. Run stump again - it should say device is rooted. Next download "root checker" it will say rooted. Ofcourse if this all does not go thru - you can downgrade to a previous firmware and it'll go easier - however that's more labor intensive and you'll not be able to back up the current ROM with all your apps and setup.

Well, I ended up having to flash back to 10d as mentioned by many of you. This fixed the problem!

esanger22 said:
Well, I ended up having to flash back to 10d as mentioned by many of you. This fixed the problem!
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Good to hear and I do not think you are missing much going back. At least I have found no difference. Just freeze "Software Update" to prevent nagging OTA update notifications.

aybarrap1 said:
Good to hear and I do not think you are missing much going back. At least I have found no difference. Just freeze "Software Update" to prevent nagging OTA update notifications.
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I actually installed CM12...its friggin awesome.

I can report no issues here with Stumproot on 10f and I've restored back to stock multiple times.

Sounds like something was just messed up on my phone, everyone else was able to use it!

perhaps this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/development/rom-stock-rooted-att-odexed-d85010f-t2945873
works nicely, no muss, no fuss

If i revert to 10D do i have to use the BUMP method after root? Or just get TWRP/CWM Recovery like good ole days? I just don't care to have the BUMP bypass that is why I am asking.
I have the ATT G3 10F.

New Update for Verizon S5 (NK2)

Did anyone else get a pop-up for a new OTA update today? I'm running NI2 and the new one looks to be NK2. Google doesn't return much in the way of results for something coming today/recently. There's not much on Verizon's site either: http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/benefits-galaxy-s5-12-16-14.pdf All it lists is a VPN fix, SD card fix, and replacing ISIS with Softcard. It does not appear to be Lollipop
Hopefully flashing the kernel to NCG rooting and then returning to the current kernel still will work. I can download the files if someone can explain how to extract the kernel.

I too just received this update. Going to wait don't want to lose root

I got the update and applied it. Lost root (knew I would), but everything else seems fine.
I don't know how to extract the kernel though. Hopefully others take notice and help you or just provide the process and files for the masses.
firestorm126 said:
Did anyone else get a pop-up for a new OTA update today? I'm running NI2 and the new one looks to be NK2. Google doesn't return much in the way of results for something coming today/recently. There's not much on Verizon's site either: http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/benefits-galaxy-s5-12-16-14.pdf All it lists is a VPN fix, SD card fix, and replacing ISIS with Softcard. It does not appear to be Lollipop
Hopefully flashing the kernel to NCG rooting and then returning to the current kernel still will work. I can download the files if someone can explain how to extract the kernel.
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Also just got the update on my Verizon GS5.
Appears to be a small update as the download and install did not take as long as other major updates.
Verizon still at 4.4.4
Unable to find any reference to the change log via a google search.
Anyone have a change log?
TL

Still amazes me after all these years how quick people are to install updates. I don't touch them with a ten foot pole till i find out 100% what's in them lol.

gnader said:
I got the update and applied it. Lost root (knew I would), but everything else seems fine.
I don't know how to extract the kernel though. Hopefully others take notice and help you or just provide the process and files for the masses.
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use terminal emulator or adb (just need root) - for system and kernel dump
Code:
su
dd if=dev/block/mmcblk0p15 of=/mnt/sdcard/boot.img
dd if=dev/block/mmcblk0p23 of=/mnt/sdcard/system.img

Seems to be a small and non-critical update. I'll probably skip on this and wait for lollipop.

Does it finally fix BT bugs?

radpp16 said:
Does it finally fix BT bugs?
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i never had a "BT" bug lol

elliwigy said:
i never had a "BT" bug lol
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Probably not as its not mentioned.
radpp16 said:
Does it finally fix BT bugs?
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I've had a few skips here and there, but occurances vary greatly depending on the app, BT device, and distance. 90%, though, is problem free.

I just updated lost root of course, used the towleroot/odin flash method and put the NI2 kernal back on, phone says I am still up to date with NK2, and finds no new updates. Not sure if this is actually the case, I am still new to all of this. But I do have root access back now so..

you would have to odin back to ncg kernal, root then odin nk2 kernel back once and if its available
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if u odin ni2 and still shows nk2 then it probably didnt work.. either way, you need to wait until someone puts out the kernal for nk2 or else u might as well stay on nk2 or just go back to ncg root install ss then flash rom of choice and then kernal of choice lol. im content where im at especially when theres no big changes at all

been waiting for this just for the SD card fix ever since the verizon tech's told me it was coming, hopefully they really did fix it.
Now the anxious waiting for it to get posted since I can't do OTA from Canada.

I will wait for it to be rootable, as I'm not willing to lose that.
That said, I've been waiting to be able to use OpenVPN over 4G/3G since I got the phone, so if this fixes the issue, it's definitely worth the update for me. I still can't believe it's taken them this long to fix the freaking issue...

BigBot96 said:
Probably not as its not mentioned.
I've had a few skips here and there, but occurances vary greatly depending on the app, BT device, and distance. 90%, though, is problem free.
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I have not lost any BT connection, and I am running NI2 4.4.4 and a Gear 2 Neo.
I too will also likely skip this until Lollipop, and then I will only upgrade to Lollipop if/when it is launched/rootable.

BeefJerky9 said:
I will wait for it to be rootable, as I'm not willing to lose that.
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It won't be rootable, as the past 2 updates haven't been rootable. As long as you can downgrade to NCG, that's your root method right there. You won't be able to root the new updates as they stand.

Chainfire's Super Su survival mode works great on new update.
Nevermind lost root

jodiejohn3177 said:
Sure its a paid add on but just click save root and update. Reboot update binaries and done
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Did you do that, and keep root on NK2?

Any rooted users out there want to pull me the OTA zip file from /cache folder once it's downloaded? I'll make you guys a flashable NK2 kernel so you can do the same method as before.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55347753&postcount=19
Sidenote: I would get it myself but I no longer have the device.

open1your1eyes0 said:
Sidenote: I would get it myself but I no longer have the device.
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Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

New OTA update ?

Getting prompt to update GEM-L703 from "B013" version to "B013_B015"
Anyone know what this update is for? I wonder if I update will it cause problems with being able to root, etc., later??

Larry Fortune said:
Getting prompt to update GEM-L703 from "B013" version to "B013_B015"
Anyone know what this update is for? I wonder if I update will it cause problems with being able to root, etc., later??
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No Problems with rooton B015,works fine,but actually is B106(5.1.1).Warning,no root no recovery.

letschky said:
No Problems with rooton B015,works fine,but actually is B106(5.1.1).Warning,no root no recovery.
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Okay, thanks!
Okay today I get prompted for "B106" OTA update. Should I hold off upgrading to this one...
I'm not rooted yet, still waiting on my unlock password.

I am going to wait tell there is a root for it. B015 is working 90% perfect except a couple things.

Easier Root Method?

I know root is achieved with a tot file for the G5 but will there be a one script method like for the g3? I haven't rooted my phone yet because I dont want to risk bricking my phone.

RicardoSal24 said:
I know root is achieved with a tot file for the G5 but will there be a one script method like for the g3? I haven't rooted my phone yet because I dont want to risk bricking my phone.
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there won't be a script for this as there are no instructions for the bootloader to flash any file. The reason they are using the TOT method is because we have no other way to write to the device. ADB is enabled but the actual command needed to copy everything over was left out.

fatapia said:
there won't be a script for this as there are no instructions for the bootloader to flash any file. The reason they are using the TOT method is because we have no other way to write to the device. ADB is enabled but the actual command needed to copy everything over was left out.
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Is rooting the phone ASAP worth the time or is it best to wait awhile after a software update?

RicardoSal24 said:
Is rooting the phone ASAP worth the time or is it best to wait awhile after a software update?
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if you haven't taken that 10d update I would just root now. Not sure if you've seen the thread where they are discussing the possibility of using the TOT method with the new 10d file, but once you update it trips something (qfuse I believe, Autoprime is the one who discovered this AFAIK) that prevents you from using the existing TOT on the forum and from downgrading.
once you root, you can update to 10d and as long as you flash supersu you will still have access to TWRP and root on the latest update. I recommend waiting updating to 10d even after rooting until they iron out all the issues though.
edit: have you done the OEM unlock through dev options yet? it will wipe your phone in the process FYI so make sure you have everything backed up.

Come on. It wasn't that hard to root it. Just follow the directions. Easy!

How do I know if I have the 10d update? I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it, then thought I had a quality control issue with the pain on the frame. So I flashed stock and locked the bootloader to prepare for a warranty exchange. Turns out the paint wasn't bubbling. It was the protective plastic adhesive I had never taken off. I'm stupid, I know, lol. Now I want to root again but I don't know about the 10d update.

rebelde80 said:
How do I know if I have the 10d update? I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it, then thought I had a quality control issue with the pain on the frame. So I flashed stock and locked the bootloader to prepare for a warranty exchange. Turns out the paint wasn't bubbling. It was the protective plastic adhesive I had never taken off. I'm stupid, I know, lol. Now I want to root again but I don't know about the 10d update.
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about phone/software version

fatapia said:
if you haven't taken that 10d update I would just root now. Not sure if you've seen the thread where they are discussing the possibility of using the TOT method with the new 10d file, but once you update it trips something (qfuse I believe, Autoprime is the one who discovered this AFAIK) that prevents you from using the existing TOT on the forum and from downgrading.
once you root, you can update to 10d and as long as you flash supersu you will still have access to TWRP and root on the latest update. I recommend waiting updating to 10d even after rooting until they iron out all the issues though.
edit: have you done the OEM unlock through dev options yet? it will wipe your phone in the process FYI so make sure you have everything backed up.
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I've had an understanding that updating android versions while being rooted may cause the phone to be bricked

i have software version 10a that is rootable right thats not 10d or are they similar.

RicardoSal24 said:
I've had an understanding that updating android versions while being rooted may cause the phone to be bricked
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that may have been true at some point especially with OEM FW, but as far as custom I rooted then updated for my GS4, G3, and v10. Just because it worked for me doesn't mean it will for anyone else. I had the variants that once they were rooted you held on to it like dear life

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that may have been true at some point especially with OEM FW, but as far as custom I rooted then updated for my GS4, G3, and v10. Just because it worked for me doesn't mean it will for anyone else. I had the variants that once they were rooted you held on to it like dear life
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So then its best to wait until something is done with the update?

RicardoSal24 said:
So then its best to wait until something is done with the update?
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from what I've read the method is established now and there is "zero" risk as long as you follow the instructions, I haven't updated because I haven't experienced the issues others are having

fatapia said:
from what I've read the method is established now and there is "zero" risk as long as you follow the instructions, I haven't updated because I haven't experienced the issues others are having
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I think I'll play it safe until its 100% or wait for a new android version with a root method

RicardoSal24 said:
I think I'll play it safe until its 100% or wait for a new android version with a root method
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it's never 100% safe, hence the quotation marks. there's always a risk of something going wrong such as a power outage, or bad file download. As long as you verify the md5sum of your files you shouldn't have a problem with rooting, the only problems I've seen are people trying to use the wrong files on their device. up to you tho man, good luck with which ever you decide

This root method (compared to my old EVO 3D which needed juopunutbear and a wire)....ez pz.

lordodin912 said:
This root method (compared to my old EVO 3D which needed juopunutbear and a wire)....ez pz.
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That sounds like fun, if you ask me. What was the wire for, if you don't mind me asking? Bypassing a fuse?

xanderin said:
That sounds like fun, if you ask me. What was the wire for, if you don't mind me asking? Bypassing a fuse?
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It was needed for s-off, so not tech for root (if i remember correctly) but for being able to flash custom roms and such. Theres youtube videos about it.