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I've searched around and have a hard time figuring out which phones actually work with any of the versions of srs wow... I dont really care if its srs wow, bbe+ or anything else that works just as good...
so here's my questions:
which phones works with which of the soundenhancers and do you have a link where I can download it?
an instruction would be nice too if its not straight forwards with setupfiles or drag'n'drop
regards martin
To be honest wouldn't even bother with SRS as all it deals with is amplitude which does nothing for audio acoustics in fact the opposite leads to distortion, if your using your device for media purposes best bet is to get PocketPlayer for Audio and CorePlayer or the freeware version TCPMP for Video as they all have an EQ.
ofcourse its an EQ.. but faking sourroud by changing frequencies based on how they are reflected by the ears and working with overtones to create a deeper bass isn't part of a normal EQ... I've had mp3players for the last 20 years and I can definitely hear a difference on my irivers and iaudios compared to an ipods and other mp3 with normal EQs
sounds like you havn't been using srs or havn't used it the right way
Think you read me wrong it's not so much an eq as does not cover the whole spectrum to which is why i stated above, it's ok i just come from studio engineering maybe that's why i prefer an eq with selectable bands and notice that there is no great sound acoustics going on with SRS WOW
Hey ya'll I'm getting ansy for tomorrow's release.. Quick question.. Has anyone found a comperable SRSWOW plugin to add some clarity and "thump" to the phones standard audio output? SRSWow on Winmo is a godsend and truly makes the phones audio double in clarity and crispness across all the bands...
Thanks!
Is there a problem with the Audio?
Mine sounds fine.
This question isn't about a problem, but moreso about the ability to "tune" the audio to enhance the sound. If you have had a winmo phone with SRSwow, you'll know what I mean.. Night and day difference in sound depth, crispness, bass clarity, and seperation from stock.
i've only come across a single media player that had even had an EQ for android. i'll see if i can find the thread...
edit: found it.
astro player
I've dealt a lot with SRS WOW on my winmo device and on a desktop PC... After through testing, came to a conclusion that most of the time it actually makes the music sounds worse. Trashed it and never gone back.
frifox said:
I've dealt a lot with SRS WOW on my winmo device and on a desktop PC... After through testing, came to a conclusion that most of the time it actually makes the music sounds worse. Trashed it and never gone back.
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Hmmm.. Not sure how qualified your ears are, but i can guarantee in a car with a smallish sub the SRSWoW made all the difference from stock WM players on Winmo. Inside there might be less subtle changes. The ability to widen the sound and get less mud from the bass is really where this plugin shines. Sounds like its not quite there for Android yet. Bummer!
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Hmmm.. Not sure how qualified your ears are, but i can guarantee in a car with a smallish sub the SRSWoW made all the difference from stock WM players on Winmo. Inside there might be less subtle changes. The ability to widen the sound and get less mud from the bass is really where this plugin shines. Sounds like its not quite there for Android yet. Bummer!
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try astro player, like i posted
Thanks for the Astro link. I will give it a spin.
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I've dealt a lot with SRS WOW on my winmo device and on a desktop PC... After through testing, came to a conclusion that most of the time it actually
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Hmmm.. Not sure how qualified your ears are, but i can guarantee in a car with a smallish sub the SRSWoW made all the difference from stock WM players on Winmo. Inside there might be less subtle changes. The ability to widen the sound and get less mud from the bass is really where this plugin shines. Sounds like its not quite there for Android yet. Bummer!
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I produced music for past 3 years (trance), spent WEEKS battling youtube optimizing my uploads for best audio quality, play piano, and am in charge of my church's choir... I think that should be enough to qualify me as "not a n00b in audio/music area"
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I produced music for past 3 years (trance), spent WEEKS battling youtube optimizing my uploads for best audio quality, play piano, and am in charge of my church's choir... I think that should be enough to qualify me as "not a n00b in audio/music area"
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Touche...We are playing MP3's after all, lol After trying Astro Music I wasn't wowed that much.. Hopefully there are more plugins enroute to satisfy my SRSwow fixation ;/
just do what I did... save up and invest some $$ and get better quality sound system, let it be headphones, speakers, car sound, etc...
I spent $80 on headphones and another $100 on new 3-say speakers for my car. That made all the difference. AMAZING sound quality on both, no need for any SRSWOW patches
I can relate, I need it myself. I need to boost/tune my overall volume as well, & not just in mp3s.
You are a deaf mann frifoxxx !! You cant replace your phones speaker but you can increase quality with SRS.You can configure low frequency to 400hz or 300hz and sound is better better better than standart in ALL WM phones.I think SRS is really necesary for ALL devices that has small speakers like laptops,phones,tablet pcs.Im producing music for 7 years and i think SRS is necessary for all small speakered device.And many manufacturers are using srs engines in their lcd tvs,phones...etc and they have SRS logo on front.sorry for my english if your devices headphone amplifier is bad about bass (like HD2) you can use srs for headphone configuring 40 hz and far input output DB values.And you get the BASSS
DSP
DSPManager
Same thing as SRS
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DSPManager
Same thing as SRS
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it is not working on my hd2 android rom and it only have a standart eq.Srs is not is an eq srs is a dynamic real time processıng engine that scans sound and boost neccessary frequencies necessary parts of sound.
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I want srs for my sgs2
I have it on my pc and on my i900 its sounds really amazing after adjustements
There is an app called equalizer made by the same guys that make audio manager and it worked great on my evo
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I personally like Volume Boost. It literally tweaks the eq to raise volume, has custom and preset eq, and other great tweaks. The "in call" is still in testing, but the speaker, and headphone, and headset quality is pretty amazing for a market app
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I personally like Volume Boost. It literally tweaks the eq to raise volume, has custom and preset eq, and other great tweaks. The "in call" is still in testing, but the speaker, and headphone, and headset quality is pretty amazing for a market app
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I like crisp clean sound. Bass is nice but I hate it when the bass is so distorted that it drones out the crisp highs and mids. What's the point of audio I'd you've got the bass turned so far up you can't hear the vocals.
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I am looking for a working version of SRSWOW for my android tablet, It's the Samsung 10.1 and I agree that using SRSWOW no comparison it is the best for not rooting my tablet. All I want is about a 30% increase in sound I have tried several other so called boost the volume apps and nothing has so far worked. So if anyone could steer me in the right direction I would be very happy, thanks in advance..
I've heard people said that the Z3 is able to play high res audio. But I did not see any difference between a FLAC and 320kbp/s MP3 song. I tested on he phone speakers and my MDRXB50AP earbuds. Is that what I'm supposed to do, or I have to use an amplifier. Sorry for being ignorant, pls help me
Well, the actual hearable difference between 320 and FLAC is in most cases so small that many find it negligible (YMMV obviously). You definitely won't be able to hear it through the phone's speakers and I'm doubtful those 50$ "extra bass" in-ears would do the trick
You're doing everything right and with those headphones you really don't need an amp.
Hope that answers your question.
Yes, as stated here. If you do notice it here you will only notice it at high volumes where the flac will not distort quite as quickly
What audio formats does the galaxy S8+ supports? I’m not talking about Audio Playback Format. I’m asking about Quality for instant is High-Resolution Audio same as PCM or DSD: DSD 64 / 128 can someone point or explain what all this means ?
Also I just found out about the Sony has a high res player is out on the market only a few days ago..
How does the galaxy S8+ compete with Sony high res audio player? Please see link Sony high res audio player
Other thing what would be the best headphones, or over the ear phones to experience the best audio quality on the S8+ ? At the moment I’m using Bose QC35 They are a decent pair of over the ear headphones, but of course not the best.
They do have a pretty awesome sound signature, but I’m sure there must be better out there, Sony Bluetooth headphones just released how much would I benefit using these with the S8+ As I have checked the Samsung website they don’t really tell you much on the specs link for Sony WH-1000XM2 Thanks peeps
Mods, i hope this isn’t in the wrong section. Thanks
I use Audio-Technica ATH-R70X, They sound great with lossless content, and the output jack on the phone supplies plenty of power to push them. With an external amp you may have better results, but I cant tell. I cant imagine that the S8+ wouldn't playback high quality audio, as long as your source material is high quality. As for the specs, not a clue... sorry!
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What audio formats does the galaxy S8+ supports? I’m not talking about Audio Playback Format. I’m asking about Quality for instant is High-Resolution Audio same as PCM or DSD: DSD 64 / 128 can someone point or explain what all this means ?
Also I just found out about the Sony has a high res player is out on the market only a few days ago..
How does the galaxy S8+ compete with Sony high res audio player? Please see link Sony high res audio player
Other thing what would be the best headphones, or over the ear phones to experience the best audio quality on the S8+ ? At the moment I’m using Bose QC35 They are a decent pair of over the ear headphones, but of course not the best.
They do have a pretty awesome sound signature, but I’m sure there must be better out there, Sony Bluetooth headphones just released how much would I benefit using these with the S8+ As I have checked the Samsung website they don’t really tell you much on the specs link for Sony WH-1000XM2 Thanks peeps
Mods, i hope this isn’t in the wrong section. Thanks
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Some facts that might help with your decision:
* The part of your body that actually pics up sound is tuned to convert sound waves from 20Hz-20,000Hz (cycles per second) to electrical signals your brain can process.
* Digital music is converted from analog by chopping up the signal in Time and Amplitude (Sample Rate and Bit Depth). CD's and most other digital music Sample the Analog waveform 44,100 times a second and have 65534 (16-bit signed) possible amplitude levels per sample.
* You can lossless convert the 16-bit 44.1KHz signal back to a analog waveform that has a SNR of 98dB and a frequency range of 0-22,050Hz.
* It is very unlikely you are able to hear past 18KHz by the time you're in your 30's
* Passing Ultrasonic's into a driver (speaker) can at best not provide any advantage other than wasted amplifier power and at worst degrade the parts of the audible spectrum.
* High quality compressed music (AAC, OPUS, MP3, DD, DTS, Etc.) is in-distinguishable from the original digitized source because of the way our auditory system works (Psychoacoustics). - While I'd love to get into reasons why it is past my current knowledge level. But you can start here if you want to dive in deeper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics
"High-Res" audio is marketing.
The Galaxy S8's DAC+AMP is average, but as long as you're not driving a pair of high impedance headphones or have the volume cranked to the max it should be fine. - https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/7e2439/12
As for headphones no one can tell you what you will like, but I've been regularly impressed by The Wirecutter's recommendations on speakers and headphones. They do measurements and also have a group of people listen to each model, so you're not getting a single persons opinion - http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/
Make sure to scroll down; what looks like ad's (because they have prices at the bottom) are actually articles with recommended headphones and also alternatives.
You really can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without a version of Viper4android.
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Some facts that might help with your decision:
* The part of your body that actually pics up sound is tuned to convert sound waves from 20Hz-20,000Hz (cycles per second) to electrical signals your brain can process.
* Digital music is converted from analog by chopping up the signal in Time and Amplitude (Sample Rate and Bit Depth). CD's and most other digital music Sample the Analog waveform 44,100 times a second and have 65534 (16-bit signed) possible amplitude levels per sample.
* You can lossless convert the 16-bit 44.1KHz signal back to a analog waveform that has a SNR of 98dB and a frequency range of 0-22,050Hz.
* It is very unlikely you are able to hear past 18KHz by the time you're in your 30's
* Passing Ultrasonic's into a driver (speaker) can at best not provide any advantage other than wasted amplifier power and at worst degrade the parts of the audible spectrum.
* High quality compressed music (AAC, OPUS, MP3, DD, DTS, Etc.) is in-distinguishable from the original digitized source because of the way our auditory system works (Psychoacoustics). - While I'd love to get into reasons why it is past my current knowledge level. But you can start here if you want to dive in deeper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics
"High-Res" audio is marketing.
The Galaxy S8's DAC+AMP is average, but as long as you're not driving a pair of high impedance headphones or have the volume cranked to the max it should be fine. - https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/7e2439/12
As for headphones no one can tell you what you will like, but I've been regularly impressed by The Wirecutter's recommendations on speakers and headphones. They do measurements and also have a group of people listen to each model, so you're not getting a single persons opinion - http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/
Make sure to scroll down; what looks like ad's (because they have prices at the bottom) are actually articles with recommended headphones and also alternatives.
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I've compared a lot in the $100-$400 range and the ones that came out on top for me were:
1. Meze 99 CLASSICS My fav https://www.mezeaudio.com/collections/all/products/meze-99-classics-walnut-silver-wood-headphones
2. ATH-MSR7
3.ATH-M50x
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I've compared a lot in the $100-$400 range and the ones that came out on top for me were:
1. Meze 99 CLASSICS My fav https://www.mezeaudio.com/collections/all/products/meze-99-classics-walnut-silver-wood-headphones
2. ATH-MSR7
3.ATH-M50x
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Going by the frequency response graphs:
Meze 99 Classics - They will sound warm (especially female vocals), average sound stage, while still having a crisp high end.
ATH-MSR7 - Not as warm, larger sound stage, high end will have more sparkle and the "I can feel it" part of bass will be more pronounced.
From personal experience:
ATH-M50x - Meh. They can sound great if calibrated, but I never cared for them otherwise.
For best quality, use a lossless formats such as WAV or FLAC but check first that they are not upsampled mp3s. If you want to save space and use mp3 format, look for a bitrate of 256kbps+ (ideally 320kbps)
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You really can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without a version of Viper4android.
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True but its not worth rooting yet the S8+ just for V4A!
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True but its not worth rooting yet the S8+ just for V4A!
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Why not?
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Why not?
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Here see this thread why I choose not to root https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/root-root-t3625793
You can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without actual stereo equipment high end speakers, Highs, Mids, Full range, and a bottom firing sub, biamped, triamped, and a center spaced sub, and then every speaker has to be tuned to your specific space in a deadened room. So if that is the kind of audiophile sound you want from your phone its just not going to happen. This phone sounds better than any other that I have ever owned or heard. Viper audio is crap, its just a front end for ALSA to make use of very limited power to make the tiny speakers in ear buds or over the ear anything go BOOM just a bit more. Don't waste your money on stupid high end headphones the biggest difference between most of them is the amount of stuffing they put in them to keep them from rattling, and please never ever spend more than 20 bucks for ear buds. I have a set of $18 dollar ear buds that I bought at a flying-J truck stop that sound and preform just as well as my $300 dollar Bose Bluetooth ear buds...I paid $280 for a name. (not knocking Bose I love their home audio stuff, but they got me with the ear buds) Lossless files are the way to go for sure, and if you were to use this phone as the music provider for a stereo system, the sound you would want coming out of it (because you are using it as a preamp) would be dead flat..... The Same thing goes for your car or home stereo using the Bluetooth or a direct line out of the phone into a stereo system....the sound coming out of the phone should be flat or you are EQ'ing an EQ and you are defeating the purpose of the equalizer in the stereo, you are essentially feeding the stereo digital noise, (just try it, trust me) (you wont be sorry). Let the stereo do the work let the phone be the high end preamp and it shouldn't be turned up more than half way. Oh and just so you know in not some wind bag ,, I'm giving you practical, useful, WORKING, knowledge. I have been a working Professional Musician for over 30 years. In and out of studios recording,,,,,AND many many many hundreds of shows and sound issues that have been dealt with. So take it for what its worth... and now i'm going to go loose myself with some with some Pink Floyd and Mozart..............Peace..
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You can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without actual stereo equipment high end speakers, Highs, Mids, Full range, and a bottom firing sub, biamped, triamped, and a center spaced sub, and then every speaker has to be tuned to your specific space in a deadened room. So if that is the kind of audiophile sound you want from your phone its just not going to happen. This phone sounds better than any other that I have ever owned or heard. Viper audio is crap, its just a front end for ALSA to make use of very limited power to make the tiny speakers in ear buds or over the ear anything go BOOM just a bit more. Don't waste your money on stupid high end headphones the biggest difference between most of them is the amount of stuffing they put in them to keep them from rattling, and please never ever spend more than 20 bucks for ear buds. I have a set of $18 dollar ear buds that I bought at a flying-J truck stop that sound and preform just as well as my $300 dollar Bose Bluetooth ear buds...I paid $280 for a name. (not knocking Bose I love their home audio stuff, but they got me with the ear buds) Lossless files are the way to go for sure, and if you were to use this phone as the music provider for a stereo system, the sound you would want coming out of it (because you are using it as a preamp) would be dead flat..... The Same thing goes for your car or home stereo using the Bluetooth or a direct line out of the phone into a stereo system....the sound coming out of the phone should be flat or you are EQ'ing an EQ and you are defeating the purpose of the equalizer in the stereo, you are essentially feeding the stereo digital noise, (just try it, trust me) (you wont be sorry). Let the stereo do the work let the phone be the high end preamp and it shouldn't be turned up more than half way. Oh and just so you know in not some wind bag ,, I'm giving you practical useful, knowledge.
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What do you recommended that has best audio quality for mobile use? I mean, I use the LG V20 with Viper4Arise with good headphones and it blows me away how good it sounds.
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What do you recommended that has best audio quality for mobile use? I mean, I use the LG V20 with Viper4Arise with good headphones and it blows me away how good it sounds.
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Exactly what you are doing if that is what sounds good to you.... I would ask you to do one thing and see how it sounds... if you are going to use Viper then just use Viper.... Flatten out every other EQ that you would be sending the EQ'd sound from your phone to... then just use the viper eq until you have the sound you are looking for.
As far as headphones/earbuds are concerned. I have a free standing hat rack full of them.. I use them according to the music I am listening to, But if you want my honest opinion ( and i know someone will call me stupid, not that I care,) I use a pair of Beats, over ear, with noise canceling, wired, as my go to headphones,,,, and the stock earbuds that came with my S8+ .... They are made by AKG.... You can get stupid and spend a lot of money (like thousands) trying to get better sound from a substandard tinny tiny under powered sound card,,, and never find the right equipment to get the job done... and never realize its not the equipment you are buying but the equipment you are using,, inst getting the job done
I had Lg g6 and it has better Audio than the S8 + ,definitely.
I just can't believe any professional can suggest Bose, Beats or phone stock AKG. Did you ever try them? For studio purpose you are using monitors... maybe this is why...
Try something what make sense- don't be like sheep- buying beats or bose just for brand and color? Get proper AKG, Beyerdynamic are not massively expensive or Sennheiser ie80. I would not recommend headphones over £300 because you not gonna notice any difference. EQ or any funny software- I prefer flat sound but everyone is individual...
+1 to this. With all due respect but no real professional would say that an $18 pair of buds would produce the same sound quality like a +$300 pair of westone or senheiser or any other prestigious brand in ear monitors. This post was addressed to audiophiles and obviously OP you should expect answers from real ones.
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I just can't believe any professional can suggest Bose, Beats or phone stock AKG. Did you ever try them? For studio purpose you are using monitors... maybe this is why...
Try something what make sense- don't be like sheep- buying beats or bose just for brand and color? Get proper AKG, Beyerdynamic are not massively expensive or Sennheiser ie80. I would not recommend headphones over £300 because you not gonna notice any difference. EQ or any funny software- I prefer flat sound but everyone is individual...
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Samsung's S8 phone connected with the LDAC codec with Sony's WH-1000XM2 headphone is a combination made in heaven! There is presently no other wireless pair that comes close to this combination. The key is the LDAC bluetooth codec.
How's the hradphone jack?
Good. It's seems it's almost as good as LG g8 but I haven't listened closely
I listened to it more closely since I am glad someone is interested in this. I can say it's slightly less clear than LG G8 and it's warmer. But my poco f2 is a new device so it might improve with time. But the difference is big enough for me to think it's not going to be as good as LG G8 even after burn in. Still not a big difference. BTW, I think my judgement is probably quite accurate as I am an audiophile. So far, I only compared them with UE18+. Anyways I think the point to take away is that as an audiophile, this is good enough for me not to use an external DAC on the go.
Thats great, if you think its atleast comparable, though not as good as an audiophile. LGs do have better audio output than most phones. Kinda hard to find good phones with headphone jacks these days. Im coming from mi 9t so I guess i'll be upgrading to the f2 pro. Thanks for your input!
I find the the headphone jack has a low output volume. Its decent but i dont get my headphones loud. I tried 16 ohm , 32 ohm, 64 ohm headphones, easy to drive in ears. not one of them is "loud". Does anyone face the same problem?
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when using Poweramp the Volume is high as expected. I wonder why Youtube and Spotify have such a low volume.
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I find the the headphone jack has a low output volume. Its decent but i dont get my headphones loud. I tried 16 ohm , 32 ohm, 64 ohm headphones, easy to drive in ears. not one of them is "loud". Does anyone face the same problem?
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when using Poweramp the Volume is high as expected. I wonder why Youtube and Spotify have such a low volume.
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Because YouTube and Spotify are being shetheads. The audio always sounds more quiet that other apps for some strange reason.
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BTW, I think my judgement is probably quite accurate as I am an audiophile.
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I don't know you and I don't want to flame and offend you, but let's make something clear here. The only difference between an audiophile and non-audiophile is that an audiophile is rich enough to spend $5000 on a gold RCA cable, because he believes it will affect the sound. It's a placebo effect, because apart from synthetic tests, sound is subjective. What you call "clear and warm" could be "flat" for others too. And it also has been proven many times that most of the so called audiophiles can't tell the difference between FLAC and 256kbps music tracks when played on a good equipment (that means source+DAC+AMP+speakers, without any other audio voodoo) in blind A/B tests.
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Because YouTube and Spotify are being shetheads. The audio always sounds more quiet that other apps for some strange reason.
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Ah, thanks for you answer, that sounds like it is something to expect.
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I don't know you and I don't want to flame and offend you, but let's make something clear here. The only difference between an audiophile and non-audiophile is that an audiophile is rich enough to spend $5000 on a gold RCA cable, because he believes it will affect the sound. It's a placebo effect, because apart from synthetic tests, sound is subjective. What you call "clear and warm" could be "flat" for others too. And it also has been proven many times that most of the so called audiophiles can't tell the difference between FLAC and 256kbps music tracks when played on a good equipment (that means source+DAC+AMP+speakers, without any other audio voodoo) in blind A/B tests.
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No, audiophile doesn't mean that you spend a ****ton of money on audio gear, it means that you can tell a difference between AirPods and decent IEM's, heck, some of the best audio experience can be had without spending even 100eur, buy KZ ZS10PRO's and FiiO M3K PRO, anything above that will be an incremental increase in audio quality for pretty big costs.
Uiisii hm12 is good enough.....