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How would you owners reply to this engadget (UK) review
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/asus-eee-pad-transformer-uk-edition-review/
The downpoints they point out are
Broken camera software
Highly reflective glass
Honeycomb still has issues to iron out
Also looks like its bigger than the ipad2 is this a issue?
Thanks, considering getting one but to replace my netbook so not 100% sure, plus it isn't out in the UK until June so haven't seen in the flesh.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040741&highlight=engadget
mattykellyuk said:
Also looks like its bigger than the ipad2 is this a issue?
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The difference in size is negligible. Considering the tablet alone (it wouldn't be fair to include the dock, since the iPad lacks one) it is only 4mm (~2/16ths of an inch) thicker, 30mm (1.2 inches) wider, but 10mm (0.4 inches) less tall.
Also remember that the iPad 2 not only has a smaller 9.7-inch screen, but it also has a 4:3 aspect ratio. If you're going to watch movies, chances are they'll be 16:9 aspect. The Transformer's 10.1-inch 16:10 aspect ratio screen will hence be much closer to the correct ratio, and as a result will need much less letterboxing than the iPad's will.
For a 16:9 movie, the comparison is as follows:
* Transformer -- 8.6 x 5.4 inch display, of which 8.6 x 4.8 inches are used for the movie, the remainder is letterboxed.
* iPad 2 -- 7.8 x 5.8 inch display, of which 7.8 x 4.4 inches are used for the movie, the remainder is letterboxed.
That's 20% more LCD surface area used to view the movie on the Transformer than on the iPad 2. To put that in a way people are more likely to understand, that's ever so slightly more than the difference between a 32-inch HDTV and a 35-inch HDTV.
True what about weight?
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knoxploration said:
The difference in size is negligible. Considering the tablet alone (it wouldn't be fair to include the dock, since the iPad lacks one) it is only 4mm (~2/16ths of an inch) thicker, 30mm (1.2 inches) wider, but 10mm (0.4 inches) less tall.
Also remember that the iPad 2 not only has a smaller 9.7-inch screen, but it also has a 4:3 aspect ratio. If you're going to watch movies, chances are they'll be 16:9 aspect. The Transformer's 10.1-inch 16:10 aspect ratio screen will hence be much closer to the correct ratio, and as a result will need much less letterboxing than the iPad's will.
For a 16:9 movie, the comparison is as follows:
* Transformer -- 8.6 x 5.4 inch display, of which 8.6 x 4.8 inches are used for the movie, the remainder is letterboxed.
* iPad 2 -- 7.8 x 5.8 inch display, of which 7.8 x 4.4 inches are used for the movie, the remainder is letterboxed.
That's 20% more LCD surface area used to view the movie on the Transformer than on the iPad 2. To put that in a way people are more likely to understand, that's ever so slightly more than the difference between a 32-inch HDTV and a 35-inch HDTV.
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You also forgot that at the resolution of the transformer (1280x800) 720p video doesn't get scaled down since it fits fully on the screen unlike the (1024x768) iPad 2.
mattykellyuk said:
True what about weight?
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The Transformer tablet is only 12% heavier than the iPad 2, despite the larger screen and extra features. It's actually 1% *lighter* than the first-gen iPad, and I don't remember anybody loudly complaining about the iPad's weight at the time, so unless the world is suddenly populated by weaklings, I'm sure we'll all be fine. ;-)
Incidentally, the Transformer is also 1/2mm less thick than the first-gen iPad, only 28mm wider, and 15mm less tall. That makes the Transformer around 1% smaller by volume, as well as 1% lighter.
In other words, indistinguishable, but a whole heck of a lot more powerful...
seshmaru said:
You also forgot that at the resolution of the transformer (1280x800) 720p video doesn't get scaled down since it fits fully on the screen unlike the (1024x768) iPad 2.
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Very good point which I forgot to mention. And the higher pixel density should also make the Transformer slightly less tiring on the eyes.
Thanks you've done your research and maths
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Glad to help.
Can someone clarify this for me?
The biggest difference between 1280x800 vs 1024x600 tablets are more dots per inch for the 1280x800. So more detailed pixels for same area, so perhaps better picture.
Now I am not sure completely sure if 1280x800 allows more widgets. One of the limitation with 7 inch Galaxy Tab 2 is that screen area does not allow to put more than one 5x4 widgets in the same screen due to screen being 7 inches rather than 10 inches. Now if I get 1280x800 7 inch tablet, such as Nexus Tablet, would it allow me to put more widgets in the same screen? I would greatly appreciate if someone can answer this.
Is there other advantages for having larger 1280x800 resolution than what I have already mentioned?
mrbears said:
Can someone clarify this for me?
The biggest difference between 1280x800 vs 1024x600 tablets are more dots per inch for the 1280x800. So more detailed pixels for same area, so perhaps better picture.
Now I am not sure completely sure if 1280x800 allows more widgets. One of the limitation with 7 inch Galaxy Tab 2 is that screen area does not allow to put more than one 5x4 widgets in the same screen due to screen being 7 inches rather than 10 inches. Now if I get 1280x800 7 inch tablet, such as Nexus Tablet, would it allow me to put more widgets in the same screen? I would greatly appreciate if someone can answer this.
Is there other advantages for having larger 1280x800 resolution than what I have already mentioned?
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Edit: I shouldn't try and help when I'm tired. Look one below.
miketoasty said:
If you are typing this on a computer, change your resolution and see what happens. That is what the change will look like between two tablets.
Technically the greater resolution doesn't allow more widgets, it's however many spaces your launcher supports. Download Apex and change your homescreen size to something like 8x8 which will allow much more than the default.
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Not true at all. Changing the resolution on your computer is completely different due to dpi settings in android. DPI settings in android mean that only the physical size of the device determines the amount of icons. The size of items stay the same regardless of resolution UNLIKE desktop operating systems. A 4 inch phone will have a 4 columns whether its 720p or 320p.
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Utilizing Space
With Galaxy Tab 2, I notice that a lot of the space in the screen is not being used. When I try to put widget in that space, it is not allowed. Is this due to the fact that our resolution is not 1280x800?
If that is true, is there any way to use the full space for widgets without buying Nexus 7 tablet or other devices with higher resolution?
mrbears said:
With Galaxy Tab 2, I notice that a lot of the space in the screen is not being used. When I try to put widget in that space, it is not allowed. Is this due to the fact that our resolution is not 1280x800?
If that is true, is there any way to use the full space for widgets without buying Nexus 7 tablet or other devices with higher resolution?
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Apex launcher!
Metallice said:
Not true at all. Changing the resolution on your computer is completely different due to dpi settings in android. DPI settings in android mean that only the physical size of the device determines the amount of icons. The size of items stay the same regardless of resolution UNLIKE desktop operating systems. A 4 inch phone will have a 4 columns whether its 720p or 320p.
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Sorry, I know this was from a while ago but I posted this early in the morning without even thinking what I was typing. Listen to Metallice, he knows what he is talking about.
Ryanscool said:
Apex launcher!
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I tried to use Apex Launcher, but it does not seem to give me more space for widgets (there are quite a bit of space near the edge that is not being used).
Thank you for the suggestion... Hope we can come up with other solutions.
mrbears said:
I tried to use Apex Launcher, but it does not seem to give me more space for widgets (there are quite a bit of space near the edge that is not being used).
Thank you for the suggestion... Hope we can come up with other solutions.
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go into apex settings. increase number of columns and rows
hi everyone
I need to ask something that i was unable to find answer on internet or Google searching. I come straight to the point. It's basically a general thing about devices that i found different in aspect of screen resolution and i couldn't find difference.
There is one Android device which gives resolution of 540*960 on a 5inch LCD and there is an Android phone which gives 1080*1920 resolution on 5.1 inch LCD like S5 AND 1440*2560 resolution on 5.1 inch LCD.
I want to ask what is the difference that these resolution gives, i am currently using 540*960 resolution phone and what difference i would note by using 1080*1920 resolution? will thing appear small on it?
For example on a home screen, i have a gadget of weather, will it appear more smaller? because i didn't get the difference of resolution and their result difference.
awaisagha said:
hi everyone
I need to ask something that i was unable to find answer on internet or Google searching. I come straight to the point. It's basically a general thing about devices that i found different in aspect of screen resolution and i couldn't find difference.
There is one Android device which gives resolution of 540*960 on a 5inch LCD and there is an Android phone which gives 1080*1920 resolution on 5.1 inch LCD like S5 AND 1440*2560 resolution on 5.1 inch LCD.
I want to ask what is the difference that these resolution gives, i am currently using 540*960 resolution phone and what difference i would note by using 1080*1920 resolution? will thing appear small on it?
For example on a home screen, i have a gadget of weather, will it appear more smaller? because i didn't get the difference of resolution and their result difference.
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firstly i can guess by the post that you are a noob but would like to help you change to pro so here it goes
the difference are
420*320 and below ldpi-small- 2-3inches - packed with 100 to 150 ppi screen
470*320and below IS mdpi - normal- 3 to 4.2 inches - packed with upto 200ppi
640*480and up IS hdpi- large-4.2 to 7 inches - packed with 200 to 300ppi
920x720and up IS qhdpi- extra large- more than 7 inches - packed with >300ppi
if that's unclear to you
try searching up screen support on google or api guidelines
if i helped hit that thanks meter
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rohitarora27 said:
firstly i can guess by the post that you are a noob but would like to help you change to pro so here it goes
the difference are
420*320 and below ldpi-small- 2-3inches - packed with 100 to 150 ppi screen
470*320and below IS mdpi - normal- 3 to 4.2 inches - packed with upto 200ppi
640*480and up IS hdpi- large-4.2 to 7 inches - packed with 200 to 300ppi
920x720and up IS qhdpi- extra large- more than 7 inches - packed with >300ppi
if that's unclear to you
try searching up screen support on google or api guidelines
if i helped hit that thanks meter
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i am sorry if i sounded noob but i was unaware of these things. I was just wondering what's the difference of resolutions when the screen size is same.
From your post what i got was, that it is basically the PPI thing, which makes screen more bright and colorful etc. so more PPI is based on more resolution or pixels.
I am currently using Huawei G610s and it has 640*480 with 220ppi. I thought that resolution is same as in case of computers, the more resolution the more smaller the pixel and picture size and more desktop area. I am currently using 1680*1050. So i thought in same context and was wondering and thought to ask.
awaisagha said:
i am sorry if i sounded noob but i was unaware of these things. I was just wondering what's the difference of resolutions when the screen size is same.
From your post what i got was, that it is basically the PPI thing, which makes screen more bright and colorful etc. so more PPI is based on more resolution or pixels.
I am currently using Huawei G610s and it has 640*480 with 220ppi. I thought that resolution is same as in case of computers, the more resolution the more smaller the pixel and picture size and more desktop area. I am currently using 1680*1050. So i thought in same context and was wondering and thought to ask.
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firstly ppi refers to the pixels per inch
it in simple words is how tightly pixels are packed in a sq inch of area on the screen . the more the ppi count the smaller each pixel gets providing you with sharper and intense quality display
also if you did not search api guidelines on google
i am here to help you
here go ahead and just go through the detailed version and i think it will solve almost all of your query
http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html
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Now. Don't get concerned on how you sound. We were all like that at some point. The resolution that you have probably is around 200 DPI (depending on screen size) My phone (Xperia SP) has a 4.6 inch 1024 x 720 display AKA 720p display. In person, how they look actually matters. Anything above 300ppi is crisp and extremely sharp. A Samsung galaxy s5 has a PPI of around 400. These numbers don't really matter but if you see them in person, they really look nice. Hope I helped you.
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Hello,.
My current phone for years has been the Samsung Galaxy S4. I believe the aspect ratio of its screen is the same as a standard wide-screen movie (or wide-screen TV, 16:9. It seems like 16:9 widescreen is standard for laptops now too. (Although i preferred the older 4:3 taller laptop screens.) Likely desktop monitors as well. I think Android and Windows tablets are all 16:9 as well, although the Ipad (at least the older ones) is 4:3. So I think the 16:9 aspect ratio of my Galaxy S4 screen is pretty standard now for most types of screens, including phones 5 inch screens and under.
I am thinking of getting a bigger screen phone, or phablet. Although there are disadvantages with the increased size, I also see advantages, especially with my aging eyes, and think it might somewhat be able to function as a small tablet, while still fitting (even if not as well) in a front (male) pants pocket..
I think the size for a "phablet" is considered 5.5 inches and higher. Many are 5.5 inches, some 5.7 inches, and some even larger, such as 6 inches. By far the most common though, seem to be 5.5 and 5.7 inches.
I understand that the reported measurement of screen size is the diagonal measurement, from one corner diagonally across.
Well, there could be different combinations of height and width that would end up measuring 5.5 inches diagonally, for example.
So my first question is-- does a designated screen size of 5.5 inches refer to a specific screen height and width, or are there multiple different 5.5" screen sizes, that all end up being 5.5" diagonally? Or is it standardized?
I compared my S4 with a 5.5" screen phone in a store. The 5.5" phone was only slightly wider, but MUCH longer than my S4. (That description is holding the phone portrait, of course.) As the S4 is already standard widescreen aspect ratio, that would make the phone I saw much wider (if landscape) or longer (if portrait) than standard widescreen movies, TVs, laptops, Android tablets, etc. I can understand why they might not want to make the phone much wider, making it harder to hold. On the other hand, one wonders how valuable a larger screen is if the increase in size is mostly in one direction, and the aspect ratio of the screen becomes so skewed, so much longer and narrower (portrait) than other screens?
However, regarding my earlier question- if 5.5" screen size is not sometihng standardized, but could be different combinations of height and width to add up to 5.5" diagonally, then all 5.5" phones might not have that skewed extra long and narrow screen aspect ratio? Which is it? All 5.5" screens the same height and width (of screen, not phone), or do they differ?
If one goes larger than that, to 5.7 inch, might that more likely add width as well as length, to have a more normal aspect ratio? Or do those still keep a similar width (in portrait), while adding still more length, to create an even more skewed longer and narrow (portrait) aspect ratio?
I am eager to hear whatever info and insight you have on this issue. Thanks in advance for your input.
Although I have a new phone now, I am still curious about this question. For instance, whether a 5.5 inch screen, referring to the diagonal measurement, refers to a standardized screen height and width, or whether that might differ among phones, only that the diagonal measurement ends up at that number?
And other questions I asked in the OP.
Thank you.
I have a nexus 6p. Great phone for media but the battery is starting to show it's age. I'm considering the s8 plus (or mate 10) for the camera quality etc but I can't find the width of the screen. I know the diagonal but when I watch films on my phone my 6p is great as it's also a great screen (16:9 and not the new longer and narrower tend)
Can anyone please tell me the screen width please?
Nearly 3 inch left to right 6 and half diagonal
I have the note 8, slightly larger screen than s8+ and with the curve, the effective screen area is 2.75" wide and 5.7" high.
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Thank you billu for the precision of your answer. Seems the s8 plus screen is as wide as my 6p which is great news.