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Does Anywere Sell Pre-Modded Samsung Qi Back Covers

Alright, so the Samsung replacement back cover for Qi charging adds enough thickness that normal cases won't fit anymore, this is known.
It is also known that you can take the offical Samsung Qi back cover, remove Samsung's Qi hardware, modify a stock back cover (glue, tape, and a dremel?) to add the module. This way it fits into the standard phone cases, while still allowing NFC to work properly, and wireless charging.
Does anywhere sell these pre-modified? Searching just leads me to cheap 3rd party Qi modules and reviews of the Samsung Qi covers..

You mean something like this: http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32394000515.html?

Firehand81 said:
You mean something like this: http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32394000515.html?
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Yes, something like that.. Except using Samsung's Qi module.

Alright, after giving up on that idea...
Looking at adding one of the tape on modules that support NFC.. I don't use it often, but I do use it..
Can anybody recommend the Qi-Infinity modules over the PWRcard brand?
The updated Qi-Infinity module and the SLIMPWRcard are both supposed to have NFC support..
However, searching with Google on my mobile, I can't find a person that has done a comparison/review of them.
Does anybody have a recommendation?

kevinds said:
Alright, after giving up on that idea...
Looking at adding one of the tape on modules that support NFC.. I don't use it often, but I do use it..
Can anybody recommend the Qi-Infinity modules over the PWRcard brand?
The updated Qi-Infinity module and the SLIMPWRcard are both supposed to have NFC support..
However, searching with Google on my mobile, I can't find a person that has done a comparison/review of them.
Does anybody have a recommendation?
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I've had good luck with the fonesalesman one. Used it for over a year. I'll find the link and edit to add it.
Edit: link; http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OF...+qi+note+4&dpPl=1&dpID=41r-snVVYwL&ref=plSrch
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nine5raptor said:
I've had good luck with the fonesalesman one. Used it for over a year. I'll find the link and edit to add it.
Edit: link; http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OF...+qi+note+4&dpPl=1&dpID=41r-snVVYwL&ref=plSrch
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Cool thanks

I rarely post but was browsing the forum and wanted to chime in. I Just picked up a refurbished note 4 on eBay. I'm coming from a LG G3.
I wanted wireless charging on this phone but didn't want the thicker Samsung back.
I order a qi receiver on eBay since the prices were a bit cheaper than amz. I purchased the type that sticks to your battery after aligning the pins correctly. The issue is that I didn't want to tape it to my battery though because I like to swap the batteries out and charged them outside the phone.
When I added qi to the lg g3, the receiver taped to the back of the phone cover so I was surprised to see this opposite. I figured why not do the same with this phone. I used household double sided tape to attach the note 4 qi receiver to the back of the phone cover. It took a few tries to make sure the pins lined up but works with no issues once correct . My qi receiver was only 8 bucks.
I hope this helps anybody.

teck1 said:
I rarely post but was browsing the forum and wanted to chime in. I Just picked up a refurbished note 4 on eBay. I'm coming from a LG G3.
I wanted wireless charging on this phone but didn't want the thicker Samsung back.
I order a qi receiver on eBay since the prices were a bit cheaper than amz. I purchased the type that sticks to your battery after aligning the pins correctly. The issue is that I didn't want to tape it to my battery though because I like to swap the batteries out and charged them outside the phone.
When I added qi to the lg g3, the receiver taped to the back of the phone cover so I was surprised to see this opposite. I figured why not do the same with this phone. I used household double sided tape to attach the note 4 qi receiver to the back of the phone cover. It took a few tries to make sure the pins lined up but works with no issues once correct . My qi receiver was only 8 bucks.
I hope this helps anybody.
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Does that one also have the nfc hardware? Or does the battery still supple the nfc circuit.
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nine5raptor said:
I've had good luck with the fonesalesman one. Used it for over a year. I'll find the link and edit to add it.
Edit: link; http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00OF...+qi+note+4&dpPl=1&dpID=41r-snVVYwL&ref=plSrch
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Quick question.. The more research I do, the harder this becomes.. lol
Does your module trickle-charge when the battery gets to 100%, does it turn off? Or does it keep the phone supplied with power, but stops charging.
Turns off at 100% then starts charging again when the phone gets to 99% for example? Or does it just stay at 100%?
Does this depend on the Qi pad used? Or only the phone module? Both?

kevinds said:
Quick question.. The more research I do, the harder this becomes.. lol
Does your module trickle-charge when the battery gets to 100%, does it turn off? Or does it keep the phone supplied with power, but stops charging.
Turns off at 100% then starts charging again when the phone gets to 99% for example? Or does it just stay at 100%?
Does this depend on the Qi pad used? Or only the phone module? Both?
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I set mine on the pad at night and it shows 100% in the morning so it must trickle charge to keep it at 100%. It has a light on the choetech 3 coil pad I use that lights up when it detects the device is on the coil and drawing power.
I imagine this is based on both but not sure. I'm thinking the pad sits in a low power state and ramps up when it detects the device (indicates it knows it's there by the led on the pad). On the phone side, the phone controls when it draws current from the coil in the phone just the same as when it's plugged in. The inductive coil part is pretty simple and barebones.
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nine5raptor said:
Does that one also have the nfc hardware? Or does the battery still supple the nfc circuit.
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I cannot confirm whether NFC works as I do not use it and I don't have any NFC devices.
I have experienced two issues with wireless charging since hooking it up. While my verdict is still iffy, i will continue to to test it out, as i love the concept.
The first night, the phone completely froze and i had to pull the battery. I had similar issues with my nexus 4 so i used an app called Safe Charge to help resolve my issue. I didn't bother testing a second night as i needed the alarm clock to work. I trusted that safe charge would fix the issue because i had similar issues on a nexus 4. And as expected, I had no issues since,. I'm wondering if i should continue this though as last night it didn't charge at all. I'm hoping i just i didn't put the cover back on right. i'll post back in a few days with updates.

Update: I think my issue was my case. I have started charging my phone without my it and my issue was resolved.
I also removed safe charge.

I'm guessing the fast charging wireless pad would work...?

Wireless Charging issue Sprint s8 plus

I thought I would throw this out there and see if anyone else has seen the issue. I am on my second s8 plus that has lost the ability to charge wirelessly. I am only using Samsung based chargers and have seen the issue from the 1 st gen slow charger to the latest that was released with the S8. The device was charging fine at first and then after a few days it stopped all together. I have tried all the known fixes including trying a shorter USB3 cable from the power brick to a hard reset of the device itself. All options for fast charging have been disabled and tested with no change in the wireless charge state. I even went as far as swapping out the new Sammy wireless fast charger I picked up at best buy to make sure there was not an issue with that. When placing the phone on a wireless charger there is no prompt to show connection or even the issue where the wireless charging would connect and then disconnect. It just will not charge on any wireless charger. Charging via USB port is not an issue. I was wondering if the latest update that fixed the red tint was the culprit but I did not allow my replacement device to update at first to test. Sure enough it started doing the same thing after a few days.
Has anyone else seen this? I am due to swap over to a third device tomorrow afternoon. The sprint techs I have been working with have sent the first device to one of the Samsung engineers they have been working with.
Thanks.

Mine did this after a few days. My fix was just to restart the phone. It seems after a few wireless pauses a safety feature keeps it from charging again
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wireless charging not working, nfc ok

Hi
Any idea what's wrong ?
I am using a Nokia Fatboy wireless charging device, which I have used for almost 1 yr since Lumia 920 days to S6 Edge and recently S8+ for more then 11 months and everything is ok, lately wireless charging refuse to work, however NFC is okay. I think NFC and wireless charging basically utilize 1 same coil/ antenna. I am confused whether I shall buy a new NFC antenna to fix this.
I think if the NFC / Wireless charging coil is broken, NFC and Wireless Charging shouldn't be working , not just wireless charging, and if Fatboy isn't compatible, it shall have not worked for 11 months.

My wireless charging stopped working all of a sudden. At first I thought it was related to the Oreo update, but I had someone else, on the same code, use the charger and it worked fine. Who is your operator? I have AT&T, he had T-Mobile .

Wireless Charging Fix

TLDR: Turn off NFC and try QI charging again.
A recent update broke wireless charging on my Note 20 Ultra. I had noticed that my Samsung Pay had begun to fail at some merchants. I suspected that the merchant terminal had been updated to reject Samsung Pay, and began to think about how I would make that happen if I was in control of the merchant terminals. I thought that maybe I could detect a NFC reader by looking at the signals on the mag stripe reader, and just simulate a failed attempt, so I tried turning NFC off, and what do you know, Samsung Pay was solid again!
Normally I keep NFC on because I use it >10 times a day to read my Freestyle Libra glucose monitor, but the night before last Abbot messed up the app and I had to switch to my old phone to read my sensor.
I had noticed the QI charging issue, but I have so many chargers and such a that's nest of wires where I charge overnight (literally a dozen things plugged in by the bed) that I had not yet rules out things getting unplugged until I read other reports of problems. Last night I noticed in the middle of the night that it had not charged again. I checked the symptoms and mine matched exactly what was reported.
But I also noticed that the time before QI quit was almost exactly the same distribution as the time it took to read my Libra sensor... What if what is broken is NFC, not both Samsung Pay and QI charging?
I turned NFC off and stuck the phone on my no-name QI charger. IT WORKED! When I got up a few hours later it had charged from less than 50% to 90% (I use SleepAsAndroid which uses quite a bit of power so this is actually good charging performance).

That's odd because NFC has nothing to do with wireless charging, and NFC should not work if set off.

Nastrahl said:
That's odd because NFC has nothing to do with wireless charging, and NFC should not work if set off.
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Antenna are next to one another thats for starters.
Also the OEM chargers use nfc to communicate to the phone things like fan status etc. So of software tells the phone no charge without verifi, then there ya go.
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not working for me. even NFC Disabled. galaxy fold works fine....

Question Magnetic USB-C chargers do not work! Triggers moisture sensor block.

I've been using magnetic cables for my Android phones for years. You put the magnetic USB adapter in the charging port of the phone and the USB cable connects magnetically to it. Makes it very easy to charge your phone while driving, keeps dust and dirt out of the charging port and decreasing the wear and tear on the port from constantly unplugging and plugging in a cable. However, when the USB adapter that stays inserted into the phones USB port is in there for a certain period of time, it seems like maybe around 5 to 8 hours, it triggers samsungs moisture/foreign object sensor and disables the charging port entirely and the only way to charge is by using a wireless charger. There are several ways to temporarily circumvent this but ultimately the sensor always gets triggered and the song and dance starts over and over again.
So that being said, has anyone figured out how to stopped this from happening without rooting? I love my magnetic charging cables and have invested a lot of money in them and I use them not just for my phone but for several other devices likes tablets and stuff because they can universally fit usb-c, micro, nano and thunderbolt with just one cable.
Thanks!
Magnetic Charging Cable, CAFELE 2 Pack/6.6ft Black 3 in 1 Magnetic Phone Charger Universal QC 3.0 Fast Charging Data Sync Nylon Braided USB Cord Magnet Phone Charger for I-P Micro USB Type C Devices https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y88V5W...t_i_CR814FARQS0EW7RRWGP7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Did you try with another magnetic adaptor?
I have also been charging with a magnetic charger for many years, now even for the device I've been waiting for almost a month, I ordered brand new kits. I really hope there is no problem like what you described.
Of course I will also buy a wireless charger, but the convenience of using the magnetic one is indispensable for me.

Yeah I'm having the same issue with my magnetic charging cable. I haven't had the phone long enough to see how big of a problem its going to be, When i get the pop up i take the plug tip out for a while and it seems to go away.
Worse comes to worse if it starts to become a major hassle I'll just get a wireless charger hopefully someone will figure out a solid fix before it comes to that

Never knew something like this even existed... Can one leave the tip in the usb port permanently as a cover to protect it from dust/ debris when not using to charge it? It also seems like a great solution for protecting the USB port from the constant wear and tear of plugging/ unplugging into it..

Exactly.
For years I have been using this solution to charge with a magnetic charger and the magnetic adaptor from the cable stays in the phone until I replace the device with another.

Monipeev said:
Did you try with another magnetic adaptor?
I have also been charging with a magnetic charger for many years, now even for the device I've been waiting for almost a month, I ordered brand new kits. I really hope there is no problem like what you described.
Of course I will also buy a wireless charger, but the convenience of using the magnetic one is indispensable for me.
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I have two brands. Both have the issue.

dj24 said:
Never knew something like this even existed... Can one leave the tip in the usb port permanently as a cover to protect it from dust/ debris when not using to charge it? It also seems like a great solution for protecting the USB port from the constant wear and tear of plugging/ unplugging into it..
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Yes.

So I tried something that might have fixed it more permanently. See if this works for anyone.
1. When you have the moisture sensor/foreign object notification and you get the message pop-up stating the charging port has been disabled while trying to charge with a cable plugged in, keep the cable plugged into the phone.
2. Then, restart the phone by pressing and holding power and volume down button and selecting restart.
3. When the phone reboots you will notice that the phone is now charging properly. AND if you unplug and plug the cable there is no moisture notification anymore.
I've tested this for about 24 hours and this has been the longest time it's been without triggering the moisture notification. Normally it takes under 8 hours to trigger.
So if this works then you can keep your magnetic adapter inside the phones charging port indefinitely without getting that moisture notification. I have not tried removing and reinstalling the magnetic adapter which might reset the moisture trigger.

Pulling the adaptor and reinstalling it also seems to at least temporarily reset the moisture notice

I'm glad to find out that I'm not the only one with this trouble. I'm not sure what I did, if anything, to fix/workaround the issue, but I've not seen the moisture sensor trigger for almost 3 days now. (Knock on wood.)
Things I've tried:
Reboot while the charger is connected.
Clear data in the USBSettings system app.
Switch to a magnetic plug that hasn't been used before. (I had several that came with the cables that have remained in the box until now.)
After trying each of these at least twice the problem still occurred again later. Today I realized that it's been a few days since it happened. To clear the warning sometimes it takes a blast of compressed air into the port, sometimes it only takes removing the plug, waiting a moment for the notification to clear and then putting it back in.
BTW, for the curious who haven't seen these before, search for "NetDot Gen12" at Amazon. They are very convenient. This is the 3rd or 4th phone I've used them on, and I also use them on tablets and other devices with a USB charging port. The only issue I've seen besides the moisture sensor on the S22U is that there is a small area on the screen next to the magnet where it is a little less sensitive to the s-pen. It's so small and usually such a non-issue that I didn't realize that it was due to the magnet until recently.

Of course, now that I've mentioned that it's been a few days since the moisture sensor was tripped, it has now happened again and my 3 day streak has ended. :-(

I wonder if the true quality of these cables is being revealed through other means (bugs in hardware through environmental discharge or whatever). Could be something simple like ESD on the pins, crosstalk/interference. Either way it's reading a short to ground and doing its job by protecting the phone.
USB was never designed around these magnetic devices and aren't in spec. It's not a phone problem. It's a cable problem.

There's a comment here: https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...lse-moisture-debris-alert-issues/td-p/2204054 that suggests it may be a software issue, as the commenter states that he's started getting it on the Note 10+.

volcolm said:
I wonder if the true quality of these cables is being revealed through other means (bugs in hardware through environmental discharge or whatever). Could be something simple like ESD on the pins, crosstalk/interference. Either way it's reading a short to ground and doing its job by protecting the phone.
USB was never designed around these magnetic devices and aren't in spec. It's not a phone problem. It's a cable problem.
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Out of all the Android phones I've used with a magnetic cable (which have been probably 5 from various manufacturers over the years) I've never seen this problem before until now. The last Samsung phone I used was an S7 and I do remember having some odd over heating warnings when charging but eventually that problem went away. I think this "foreign object" sensor is being triggered because the magnetic adapter is staying plugged into the usb-c port in the phone but not charging. Thus the sensor is being triggered. However, there seems to be the same pop-up notification message for "moisture detected" and "foreign object detected" since it covers both in the same message. So it is a little tedious to figure out if the moisture sensor is being triggered or the foreign object sensor is being triggered.
Could the cable be at fault? I highly doubt it at least in my experience. It's more realistic that Samsung has placed so many safety sensors on this phone that it's only a matter of time before one gets triggered. But magnetic cables have been around for years and Samsung knows this. So they knew by installing this foreign object sensor that it might break the use of magnetic cables. Which is sad because Apple has had magnetic charging cables for years in their laptops and recently their Apple phones use magsafe wireless chargers which is a magnet built into the phone.
I've also used magnetic chargers for years in my Android phones and tablets and I've never seen it adversely affect it in any way.

I'm having the same issues and I'm not using some cheap knock-off magnetic cable but one that has been on the market almost 3 years, is still available, comes with a 10yr warranty and supports up to QC4.0 on the mobile cable version (which I have) and is also available in a 100w PD version (ChargeASAP Uno cable). These moisture/debris alerts are the FIRST problem I have EVER had with this magnetic cable, and while I originally bought 3 sets (thinking they would wear out from daily use, I never even opened my 2nd & 3rd set until I started having issues with it in my S22 Ultra on day 1 and assumed it was coincidence that moving it from my previous S10+ to this phone exposed a weakness from wear and/or age. Unfortunately the brand new set had the exact same issue.
Now, in my case, I always wirelessly charge, except when I'm in my car using android auto daily (why I bought the magnetic cable) and the once a month or so I copy data to/from a PC. I am getting the moisture/debris alerts every couple hours or more when the magnetic adapter is in and it is HOURS before or after I actually used the magnetic cable (tip was inserted 24/7 until I got tired of this nightmare). On the weekends when I may not drive or sync for 24-48hrs, I've gotten the warning when the phone was just sitting on a table at the lock screen for an extended period in my house. My charge port is spotless without a speck of dust and this continued to happen with a brand new magnetic charging tip that was sealed in an anti-static bag before putting it in the phone. Honestly this MUST be an erroneous BS error and Samsung should address it.

esmith13 said:
I'm having the same issues and I'm not using some cheap knock-off magnetic cable but one that has been on the market almost 3 years, is still available, comes with a 10yr warranty and supports up to QC4.0 on the mobile cable version (which I have) and is also available in a 100w PD version (ChargeASAP Uno cable). These moisture/debris alerts are the FIRST problem I have EVER had with this magnetic cable, and while I originally bought 3 sets (thinking they would wear out from daily use, I never even opened my 2nd & 3rd set until I started having issues with it in my S22 Ultra on day 1 and assumed it was coincidence that moving it from my previous S10+ to this phone exposed a weakness from wear and/or age. Unfortunately the brand new set had the exact same issue.
Now, in my case, I always wirelessly charge, except when I'm in my car using android auto daily (why I bought the magnetic cable) and the once a month or so I copy data to/from a PC. I am getting the moisture/debris alerts every couple hours or more when the magnetic adapter is in and it is HOURS before or after I actually used the magnetic cable (tip was inserted 24/7 until I got tired of this nightmare). On the weekends when I may not drive or sync for 24-48hrs, I've gotten the warning when the phone was just sitting on a table at the lock screen for an extended period in my house. My charge port is spotless without a speck of dust and this continued to happen with a brand new magnetic charging tip that was sealed in an anti-static bag before putting it in the phone. Honestly this MUST be an erroneous BS error and Samsung should address it.
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Can you share a link of the high quality cable you mentioned?

dj24 said:
Can you share a link of the high quality cable you mentioned?
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"Mobile Device" 18w version (I have these): https://chargeasap.com/collections/usb-c-mobile-device-magnetic-cable
They also sell 100w versions geared toward laptops and/or PD Charging

Interesting thread. I never knew about the magnetic system. I do keep a usb-c plug in the port full time to keep out dirt and lint. Never had the moisture popup so far in a week with one inserted in my S22.

Will_T said:
Interesting thread. I never knew about the magnetic system. I do keep a usb-c plug in the port full time to keep out dirt and lint. Never had the moisture popup so far in a week with one inserted in my S22.
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This is interesting. So you use just a plastic usb-c insert cover of sorts? Can you provide a link to the product?

JDubbed said:
This is interesting. So you use just a plastic usb-c insert cover of sorts? Can you provide a link to the product?
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There are other versions but these are the last ones I bought: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085T5L9T6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
They don't last a long time if you are taking them out every night to charge with a cord. But now that I have wireless charging, they should be more permanent.