Here at XDA I love watching videos tutorials. I love being able being able to rip apart my own device to fix it at my own will! What I don't like is that the mobile phones companies are pretty useless when it comes to self repair and they sometimes make it hard to repair & resell electronics as a whole!
These is a bill below that if passes would help mom and pop repair places get actual support and the same repair information that companies have on the devices they repair! Could you imagine if we, XDA, had that info! Do't you think that could be useful! It would help them and the community as whole when it comes to fixing out devices that we love.
Below you will find link to both bills currently going through the Senate and State Assembly, as well as a link to help raise awareness on this amazing bill. Please share, sign up, hope and take action. The Bill is going through legislation at New York right now but who knows how far it can go afterwards! We got offical unlock device support from Obama so let's make this happen to people! :good::good::good::good:
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WHERE TO READ THE ACTUAL BILL
WHERE TO SHOW SUPPORT
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Windows-Mobil...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Well I must admit this is pretty low, chances are the person selling it is on this board too.
Selling your own hard work is fine, selling others non profitable hard work is pathetic, I hope the person responsible is feeling very guilty about now!
That stinks, someone should find out who this guy is?
£1.99 very appealing until you see he is charging £8.01 for postage on an electronic download.
Maybe he'll donate the money to xda developers - I don't think.
He did donate though, not much.
wm06 on ebay
Hi guys
As there is apx 244,000 members on here perhaps we should ALL ask him a question about where its from - wonder what ebay's response would be?
It might stop him from profiting from others hard work - unless of course it is genuine
regards
jon
Link please?
What a stupid person ! ! !
If it is for Universal, Video Calling is not properly working yet and he/she will be screwed.
Link is in the first post, yes he is selling the Universal without the video call!!
Have asked the question lets see what he comes back with!
WM6
Don`t think anyone will get a reply now as Ebay have removed and cancelled the posting !!...that was quick for a change!!.
Clive
And the account seems to be suspended as well.
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And the account seems to be suspended as well.
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judging by the feedback, hes already made £120 out of it.
Take out his selling fees and that he has been suspended from Ebay and all the trouble he's gone to the profit wasn't worth it...
Should be thrown off this site too...
WM6
Good point stelladel.....
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Reply from the seller
This is the reply I got from the seller NOT from me personally as from following post it looks if it was me IT IS NOT just to make it as clear as day (and if the mods wish to ban the seller) they can PM me and I will send his name.
I've put an ADD on email with a step by step guide to flash the devices.I've seen a lot of "mod" people bricking their devices due to a bad explanation of the flashing process,complicated links,corrupted files and so on.IE: I myself colected information from a developer site and tried to flash an Imate Jam and after the process was done...it was bricked!!!End of story I ended up with a worthless device and no support whatsoever!!!
So I had this idea of making a friendly step by step guide and offering a support to the buyers in case the flash process goes wrong. And don't tell me it is a risk free process...For instace from the 15 roms I've sold out I had to give support for 3 buyers that even with the step by step guide they manage to not completely follow the steps and needed extra support (such as special roms that are able to recover half bricked devices).
So what I actually offer is a lower risk to the buyers.Up to 85% of my buyers know that these tool I'm selling might be "free" elsewhere. But this "free" means no support as well.So this is a great value for money choice as all the tec stuff and tools needed are gathered together with download links,explanation,step by step guide and support by email or msn or even by phone in English, Portuguese or Spanish.
So this is what I offer. Part of the money gathered are sent to the development site so we can keep improving HTC devices.
Best Regards
(I do have his name but not that evil to post it)
sure, that's why you want 8 Bucks for the Download right?
You suck guy, no one here will believe your stupid "oh i did nothing wrong" bull....
You tried to earn Money with other peoples work and with non-licensed software. You can't deny that and that's exactly why you should be banned out of every single ppc-board (this, pdamobiz, etc) forever.
Everyone gets support here within a few hours, i don't think some like you is only even almost able to replace all the knowledge of the pplz in this and other ppc-boards.
So got and tell your fairytales some who is stupid enough to believe you.
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Whether you offered support or not is not applicable, the simple fact is you tried to profiteer from other peoples work without their permission.
You broke the ethics of this board in doing so, caused a certain amount of distress - these actions you took without consideration to the developers, or board members.
If you believe you perceived intentions were honourable and justified then that is your opinion. I believe as do others that posted on this topic you were wrong to do so, as apparently do Ebay.
OK i have friends that want a pimp out phone like mines. Right now im waiting for dudes1.0 but i have jf1.50 and gloss theme they like what i have and im thinking of charging them money for me to install what i have...so the question is if it is ok if i charge people to install your work on their phone?
Thank You
You guys are right probably I don't want to do this also my friends are lazy and not that good with computer come on I had to even explain to them what 3gp means. Anyways they know about this site so they could do it by themselves. Thanks for the opinions everyone. NO MORE 24/7
Wow... I can see this going so many ways
Here's my opinion (that's just me, you still have to consult all the dev)
Point your friends to this site and give them reasonable explanation how to use info here. If they are up for the chanllenge-great, let them do it. If not- then you can do it but you should consider that
1. You will be liable if you brick one's phone
2. You will become 24/7 tech. support/firmware update/"can you do....(insert your own request here)...for me"/my toaster broke, and since you're good with this kind of things..../whatever else guy
3. If, for any reason, they need to return the phone to T-mo you will be responcible for bringing it back to factory state.
4. It would be only fair that you split any moneys that you receive with those who contributed to firmware/theme/mods.
With that said.... I would do it for free for my friends in exchange of not beeing that support guy. I mean I'd help them and everything but I don't need calls in the middle of the night. Still, eventhough I would do it for free, I would require that my friends donate at least few bucks to whoever's work I would be using.
Good luck, I would love to see what actual devs have to say.
You should do it just for fun and without charging money.. this is why friends are called friends..
Charge them, then give 50% to the dev
In my experience even if you don't charge to root and what-not you will still become 24/7 tech support for them. I am the tech guy in my group of friends and I never charged a dime(unless I had to go buy hardware). Root their phones, send them here, make them read, also try explaining a few things and let them know where the friggin' search function is and they'll be fine, but if they decide to call you in the middle of the night needeing help, subtly hint that you're broke and could use some cash for beer
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In my experience even if you don't charge to root and what-not you will still become 24/7 tech support for them. I am the tech guy in my group of friends and I never charged a dime(unless I had to go buy hardware). Root their phones, send them here, make them read, also try explaining a few things and let them know where the friggin' search function is and they'll be fine, but if they decide to call you in the middle of the night needeing help, subtly hint that you're broke and could use some cash for beer
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I hear you.... and I don't have problem helping anybody, I just want to do it when I have time and not 24/7.
Happy modding
tubaking182 said:
...you're broke and could use some cash for beer
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Dantehman, always includes Beer Money!
Listen up people. This is what we need to do to help the public become aware of this very damaging Act. We can not let Big brother push us around any longer.And there constituents the big corporate companies. If you go to this web site and you click on the names of all the people that are in support of the SOPA act. You will see the huge contributions and a generality of where they came from.
http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/
What I and all the members of this site are in need of is something that we can print on paper that we can distribute to the public. So I ask the members to help us to get this done. Pleas come up with or help find the proper info that we can copy and past into a word document that will allow us to print it out and then hand them out to the public. I know that this is something that maybe I should do my self. But, I am on the road all of the time and I work two jobs. And have a wife and two children that I like to spend time with when I get home. I don't have much time to concentrate on this at this time. And we do not have much time. So I ask that you help us out. You do a lot for us in the community. And we as a whole are extremely grateful. We would not ask for your help if it were not so urgent. So I ask that if this is something that when and if done, you either post a comment here or you PM me the item in question. If this info is a collaboration from members and the info is PMed to me I will include if desired the members names that came up with the finished product. Maybe I am saying to much here as I some times do. Maybe this is a bad idea. But, I am not sure as to what else I can do at this time. Again, I travel all over New England all of the time. I will make as many copies as I can to distribute to the public. Also if there are any paper print shops that are willing to help and make prints to give out to people when and if this info gets posted here. I believe that we all will be extremely grateful for the help given.
As a matter of fact, I will make a place holder for the work of art that should be printed up. To the people in the print shops. I live in MA on the Northern boarder of RI. If you are going to pledge your support in this battle. I ask the members that are willing to distribute these flyers get in contact with what ever shop pledges there support and let them know when and where you will pick up the flyer's. And, as a note. If any one here does get involved in this. I can not stress enough that our conduct must at all times be civil. If we are in a parking lot and putting flayer's on peoples vehicles. Please be mindful of the accessories that you are wearing. So as to not scratch other peoples vehicles. And if the owner has the rite to kick you out of the parking lot do not quarrel. Just go and start else where. Thank you and i hope that I have not made to big a fool of my self. good day/night.
Place Holder:
I really hope this gets nipped...
i don't think many people realize how big of a deal this is..
i am all for helping out in any way possible to prevent SOPA
I've already petitioned my state officials via e-mail thanks to the EFF's website for this. I actually got a personalized email back from one of them.
More background information
Could someone please post some good links for more "true" background information for "foreign" users?
Thx
https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/
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What the heck is that?
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I hope that,wasn't Levitt
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Does anyone know who started this whole bill? I haven't heard of this until now.
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I've already petitioned my state officials via e-mail thanks to the EFF's website for this. I actually got a personalized email back from one of them.
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Fantastic. Done the same myself. Hopefully with enough complaining, we can get our representatives to pay attention to their constituents.
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Does anyone know who started this whole bill? I haven't heard of this until now.
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It was originally introduced "by House Judiciary Committee Chair Representative Lamar S. Smith and a bipartisan group of 12 initial co-sponsors."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
I can see that they want to stop piracy, but this is clearly the wrong way to do it.
And they're up to 30 co-sponsors now, by the way.
Keep on them "do nothing" representative's before they screw us again!
Agreed, im actually more concerned about this than studying for finals
I made flyers today and posted them everywhere with my friend.
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I do not live in the USA but im with you guys. Good job!!
I just want to know if anyone has heard of these guys. They are slandering xda's name all over craigslist, in multiple citys. They are taking credit for photon unlocks, and other hard work that the wonderful dev's here post, Please be aware of this and bring this to the knowledge of xda admins and others, If this is not true it is slanderous and wrong. They are taking credit for all the devs hard work on here and charging customers for something they can do for free. Please someone look into this, as it makes me sick to my stomach to see these lies. Here is a copy of one of the posts. I dont work for any shops, just an independent. It makes me so angry they are taking credit for everyone elses hard work!!
here is the link:
orlando craigslist > for sale / wanted > cell phones - by owner
XDA Wireless has them losing sleep. We now know who they are flagging (Orlando)
Date: 2012-06-04, 12:28AM EDT
Reply to: [email protected] [Errors when replying to ads?]
Xda and our software has found out who is flagging all the other dealers.
and wouldnt you know its another dealer.
Then we get a call at midnight. Thats cause they are losing sleep
We have a recorded call where the competition
Has threatened harm robbery and more. Then he slipped up and said he was
part of cell bros.
Now we will request a comment from cell bros tomorrow and let them hear the call.
i also passed on this guys number to the orange county sherrifs office.
If you too were threatened by the man on this tape we want to know.
As an admin and part owner of xda-developers.com
We have an awesome legal team and will pursue this with vigor.
We are here to save you the consumer money
We wont stop and tactics like this call are sad.
If you want to hear it please email or text is we will send you tge link
For other dealers who have had to have this abuse.
we are here for you.
We also will have orange county run his number to confirm he works with cell bros.
there is one thing you cant hide thats a call record.
As one of the admin from xda. If you need help
and your tired of getting abused with these prices
for solutions and software our forum created.
So you know. Most flashers have $200the tops into
their software if that. Charging $70 $65 or more os like
raping you the public.
Call text or email to hear the call
from what the other guys sound like.
And i didnt say he worked there he did.
Hear it yourself.
Location: Orlando
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
PostingID: 3055945246
Dear XDA members,
Please can you help me to unlock my iphone 5 from fido canadian carier because I don't have money right now and it's so high in the market online or stores is about 125 Dollars. I wanna to give it to my fiancee that I love so much as a birthday gift. Please please help help me as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance and looking forward to hear from you soon.
Best regards,
¸
Mouahed
Montreal
Moandro said:
Dear XDA members,
Please can you help me to unlock my iphone 5 from fido canadian carier because I don't have money right now and it's so high in the market online or stores is about 125 Dollars. I wanna to give it to my fiancee that I love so much as a birthday gift. Please please help help me as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance and looking forward to hear from you soon.
Best regards,
¸
Le IMEI number : :good:
Mouahed
Montreal
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Take off ur imei number immediately. No one should know it
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okey thank you, but can you please help me with issue.
Moandro said:
okey thank you, but can you please help me with issue.
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This site is not for Crapple products. Try using Google to search or our sister site at http://iphone-developers.com/
There is lots of website available on the internet, just Google it. Pick the best site where you can resolve your problem.
@brookeaidan - Not to trole you or anything but I noticed a pattern forming of telling people to just google it. Though its a good suggestion to use google, I'm not saying write pages or something, just be a bit more helpful if your going to post help. Maybe post a link to a google search for them (not everyone is a wiz a google) because this is hard to get into (unlocking or hacking or rooting) the first time but once someone gets a win it's all good for the most part from there on.
I would suggest;
1. example Google search the following or to help resolve the questions in this here thread:
"Iphone"+"unlock" how to similar:xda
Or
"Iphone"+"unbrick" how to similar:iphone-developers
2. If you've got some knowledge to drop or experience to share its a good idea to post it so that the original poster can benefit and all future readers. For example:
When I had to unlock my first phone I first read up on the legalities, the how to(s) and then picked the best rout of action... at that time it was not illegal in the nation I resided and most of the how to(s) where way over my head (at that time) so I found that adding "solved" to the search queries pulled one up on "how to unlock your phone with help from service provider" in that guide it went over the steps of escalating a call without burning bridges and the legitimate reasons that you can give a service provider to assist you with unlocking a device.
Example of escalating the call
Service provider turns a request down
Respond something like
"That's ok <insert name> I won't waist your time further, can you please connect to your supervisor"
When supervisor answers, this is usually after the person you've just talked to has shared some words about you to their supervisor, so be polite but firm with the first person you talked to they'll likely also try to turn you down as well. Don't get impatient here, instead re-state your wishes completely, pause long enough that the supervisor can "grunt" that they've herd you but not long enough that they can interrupt you until you've finished everything that you need to say, if they do interrupt say something like
"I respect your time <insert name> and I need you to listen because this is very important <continue statement>"
When you're telling your story some things to keep in mind; don't lie, don't raze your voice (tention in the voice works far better), know that the first 2 or 3 people you talk to may not have the knowledge or the ability to do what you want so treat it like an adventure
Now for the reasons why a service provider might be cool enough to help you;
~ A family or business emergency, vacation, or trip is taking you out of your provider's coverage without incurring steep roaming charges wile your abroad.
This was the one that worked for me at least and was suggested by others. Make it sound like it could happen soon and let them know that you love your device and your service and don't want to have to leave them just to get a phone that'll work over seas because you love your phone (remember )... most people get it by then and are more apt to be on your side about connecting you to the department that handles unlocking.
So to recap
~ polite but firm and prepared to repeat yourself
~ request to be connected to the person(s) or department that can resolve your issue
~ use the persons name and the names of the persons to talked to before
~ treat it like an adventure
Doing so ensures
~ the person you are talking to is willing to help
~ prevents you from getting turned down and hung up on
~ let's them know that you will remember them, this is powerful when used correctly
~ by being up beet with company represinitives on the phone you can make them really eager to please. Note though; not to be to chatty or friendly as this will drag things out.
Some additional notes about unlocking devices:
I've unlocked many phones (no iphones yet) and two with the above method before doing it with guides and USB and programs or exploits on other devices. Both routs are tedious at times but if you take notes and are persistent you'll find a method that works in either rout.
In all companies the least secure and most flexibility/leverage can be found in the call centers, as a customer it's a good idea to know how to get your moneys worth out of 'em so perhaps look up social engineering (The Art of Deception was an entertaining read) or NLP (Darin Brown can be found on Youtube and it's good for a laugh too. Tools like that when used to get what you want as a customer can make life far quicker and easier even if your not out to exploit something but instead have a legitimate concern. I'm not saying that you should become some kind of mind master but instead take a look at the key concepts and apply them to actively construct a conversation that leads to your goal. After playing round with both ways of unlocking I can say getting a service provider to do it for you is kinda more fun, ya get to make peoples days a bit more interesting (such as when ya get a talker that then clams up because the realize that the conversation is recorded on their end and they've just said... something...) and not stare into a PC screen but instead kick your feet up and let them handle it.
If you go with option 1 and find a guide and unlock your device at home do be sure your not going to get stuck with some kind of fine for breaking a law and be sure to look up guides on how to unbrick and or recover from boot loop; bricks and boot loops happen, knowing how to solve it before it happens makes things so much quicker.
If you go with option 2 be sure to not cancel or suspend your contract or otherwise alter your contract (such as adding international roaming, they tried that one a few times on me, just said "no, thanks though" and moved on) because such things are not needed And if they suggest it then; let them know that you will make contact just before traveling and that "this" call is to ensure that the next rep you talk to has only those steps left to do and that "this" call is to get all the time and technical intensive things out of the way so that you and the next rep are not scrableing to get it done that day. They may suggest all sorts of other solutions, like a pre-paid phone, this is where you loving your phone or needing something on it for business to work comes into play. If one level of supervisor doesn't cut it go higher. And if you're transfered more than twice and had to repeat yourself more than that then on the next transfer ask to be directly connected or to have the person that is trasfering you to stay on the line to help explain why your being trasfered to the new person; this makes it so that you are using duble the resources of the company and most of them know it, so getting you quickly trasfered and the issue explained becomes a priority to the first person you talked to and the second person your about to talk to is being put at ease because someone from their company is explaining things to them before you do (prepping the target) these two forces combined cause you to become viewed as within their circle and leads to them wanting to work with you more rather than just push you down the line. Like I said though don't go lieing to your service provider but know that there are ligit reasons you may have to require your service provider do this.
As with all things you see on the web use at own risk
And happy hacking, whether it be on humans or what they make.
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Debian Kit/QEMU Linux Install guide for all android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Now have working Installers for ARM Java 7 JDK + Maptools + jMonkey
Sorry, but there isn't a lot of iPhone development on xda and sooner or later this thread is going to see some heavy anti-iPhone trolling. So thread closed, and please try a website that is specialized for iPhones....like this one: http://iphone-developers.com/