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Is there a way to disable Google Voice in Nexus One in non-Rooted devices? Google results are not useful.
I don't want this application to run in the background. It restarts even if you kill it.
read up on how android handles memory allocation.
maybe you can help me and show me where to read?
henihazbay said:
maybe you can help me and show me where to read?
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Here you go. Highlights are at the bottom of my post and of the article.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
*Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when more memory is needed.
*Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when it’s done doing what it needs to do.
*Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when you haven’t returned to it in a long time.
*Most services (while possibly running in the background) use very little memory when not actively doing something.
*A content provider is only doing something when there is a notification for it to give. Otherwise it uses very little memory.
*Killing a process when it isn’t ready only causes it to have to reload itself and start from scratch when it’s needed again.
*Because a task is likely running in the background for a reason, killing it will only cause it to re-spawn as soon as the activity that was using it looks for it again. And it will just have to start over again.
*Killing certain processes can have undesirable side effects. Not receiving text messages, alarms not going off, and force closes just to name a few.
*The only true way to prevent something from running at all on your phone would be to uninstall the .apk.
*Most applications will exit themselves if you get out of it by hitting “back” until it closes rather than hitting the “home” button. But even with hitting home, Android will eventually kill it once it’s been in the background for a while.
Thanks for the reply.
Most of those highlights are not valid for me or for any nexus one users because:
a lot of unused application cause a big amount of RAM which is resulting with a lag/slower N1
Some applications will never be used by some users, for example Amazon MP3, or Google voice (for me)
So, coming to my initial question, is there a way to disable Google Voice?
I guess the simplest way is modacos kitchen. There is a option (?) to remove google voice.
And i agree that removing unneeded apps will improve performance.
any other ideas?
I have just deleted the apk from /system/app
;-)
when i go to /system/app and try to delete amazon MP3 it gives me an error...
i do see that it is -r- (i assume that means read only) is there a way to override that?
Either root and delete the .apk via adb, or you're out of luck.
jn_vista said:
when i go to /system/app and try to delete amazon MP3 it gives me an error...
i do see that it is -r- (i assume that means read only) is there a way to override that?
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Is your device rooted?
no root, no delete
jin1207 said:
no root, no delete
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Exactly. This forum isn't really the place for anyone who doesn't have or want root. Pretty much everything we do here requires root access.
Part Four said:
Exactly. This forum isn't really the place for anyone who doesn't have or want root. Pretty much everything we do here requires root access.
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Agreed! Be rooted and do what mod you want to do...
Out of curiosity, with the Nexus, with GoogleVoice running how much free memory do you have? As Cy would say, "free memory is wasted memory." Why kill the app if it's not draining the memory that's needed?
So Carloswithac, that means ("taskiller", "advanced task killer", etc) are practically useless??
If so I'm uninstalling them From My Nexus.
This is my 4th Android phone, and I am still a little unclear on how memory works on this machine. I use AutoKiller, yet I am still confused. As I understand it, 100mb or 5mb free, it shouldn't affect the operation of the device until something needs more than the available and has to clear room. So, how does this work, exactly? I am continually running low on the Triumph, yet if I set the preset in AutoKiller higher, I begin to lose services ranging from alarm clocks to social networking notifications. Where do I begin to find balance? Am I missing something?
I haven't had a problem with starting to lose services like the alarm clock but I was seeing the system significantly slow down even as I kept all unnecessary tasks from running. So I figured that I would root my system, and get rid of all the pre-installed software that I didn't use. The funny thing is that after I rooted the system all the memory issues went away, and the system really flies now. I don't know what changed, when I rooted it. But I am not seeing the same slow responses, the constant starting of tasks that I don't use and so forth. I know that its not an answer so to say, but I thought that I would share so as to maybe help you, or see if it happened with someone else.
HitchHiker said:
I haven't had a problem with starting to lose services like the alarm clock but I was seeing the system significantly slow down even as I kept all unnecessary tasks from running. So I figured that I would root my system, and get rid of all the pre-installed software that I didn't use. The funny thing is that after I rooted the system all the memory issues went away, and the system really flies now. I don't know what changed, when I rooted it. But I am not seeing the same slow responses, the constant starting of tasks that I don't use and so forth. I know that its not an answer so to say, but I thought that I would share so as to maybe help you, or see if it happened with someone else.
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Thanks for the reply. It's nice to hear other experiences. I am already rooted, and AutoKiller requires root. I'm just being patient and hoping that a custom ROM can solve problems.
Rooting shouldn't change anything except whether or not the phone is rooted. That's it. Task killers rarely help because those apps you kill just come back as soon as you look away. So I would personally recommend you only kill the miscreant apps, and ultimately remove them if you can.
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primetechv2 said:
Rooting shouldn't change anything except whether or not the phone is rooted. That's it. Task killers rarely help because those apps you kill just come back as soon as you look away. So I would personally recommend you only kill the miscreant apps, and ultimately remove them if you can.
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Autokiller doesn't work that way. It merely changes Android's already existing internal programming to be a touch more aggressive. It does nothing on its own, merely giving you an interface to alter Android's own values for task management and app priority.
What I really need to know is if that aggression is necessary. Android's default minimum for memory is 24mb (that is the level at which the system will kill off empty apps). I can raise that number, but is it necessary? Some one told me that free memory amount is irrelevant in Android. If that's true, what is the point in making sure my system has 100mb free as opposed to 20mb?
I wouldn't think that extra memory management app is necessary, the only problems any android 2.2 phone (or any android) has are apps that are coded porely are installed. Just use a app that shows cpu usage. If a app is porely written you will see it..... those are the ones to uninstall.....not kill, uninstall.
tsac said:
I wouldn't think that extra memory management app is necessary, the only problems any android 2.2 phone (or any android) has are apps that are coded porely are installed. Just use a app that shows cpu usage. If a app is porely written you will see it..... those are the ones to uninstall.....not kill, uninstall.
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Like I said, the app merely gives me a UI to alter Android's already existing internal programming in regards to service priority. I am just trying to better understand how Android does it's work.
I am creating this topic because I think we could use a thread dedicated to see what is safe to remove and what is not.
Right now it won't have much, but I plan to provide good info. please post what you have been able to remove and even what Bootloops phone or just causes problems.
ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP BEFORE TRYING THIS! BOTH NANDROID AND TITANIUM BACKUP
Ways to Remove Unnecessary Apps
One way and my personal favorite is to use Titanium Backup. It can uninstall these apps but can also back them up.
Another way is to use a file manager that can access /system/app. this is one of the harder ways since it can get difficult to know what is what because it just gives package names. ex. com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd.apk is the T-Mobile TV app
Safe to remove NOTE: This is how they appear in Titanium Backup. Always make a backup both TiB and Nandroid before starting
Buddies now 1.0
Custimize homescreen 1.o
Email 1.0 (this is the widget not the android email app)
Game Base
Gmail
Google Play Books
Highlight
Home screen tips
Lookout
Media Hub
More for Me
News & Weather
Ocean Weather
Polaris Office
Pro Apps
Slacker Radio
Social Hub (app)
Social Hub (widget)
TeleNav GPS
TwLauncher (only if you have a replacement launcher. Ex. Adw, go, Zeam, ...)
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Unsafe to remove. Do not remove!
mediaprovider
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If you do remove something you shouldnt
If you can boot, then just restore the app you removed in titanium backup.
If you bootloop you got two options
1. Restore Nandroid backup in CWM (good thing I did a Nandroid backup, right?)
2. No Nandroid Backup, its not guarantied but you might be able to use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591601 . A factory reset/data wipe may be needed in stock recovery
I will try to see if I can post backup files in case some one does remove something they shouldn't.
mediaprovider.APK and .Odex: http://db.tt/EQquH1Zi
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I'll say it here again, "bloatware" is a misnomer of a term. Your phone will not work faster removing these applications. Personally I removed them because I didn't want to ever see the notification for them having an update in the store. Also, having them installed, but not running, has *zero* impact on your battery.
I point this out because if you're ever unsure about whether you should remove uninstall something, don't.
These are the apps I have personally chosen to uninstall or freeze, and my phone has worked flawlessly for several weeks:
Zinio
Yelp
Visual Voicemail (may be desirable to many, but if you use google voice it's not)
Telenav GPS (yes, your google maps gps will work just fine without it)
T-mobile Video Chat
T-mobile Name ID
T-mobile Mail
Slacker
Netflix
More for Me
MobileLife Family
Media Hub
Lookout Security (the app didn't even work for me so I found it useless)
Linear
Pro Apps
Kies air
Highlight
Game Base
Bonus Apps
411 & More
Personally, I always selected "make a backup" with TitaniumBackup Pro before removing an app, and if TBP ever gave the warning message about that app not being deodexed, I instead chose to freeze it.
Cirkustanz said:
I'll say it here again, "bloatware" is a misnomer of a term. Your phone will not work faster removing these applications. Personally I removed them because I didn't want to ever see the notification for them having an update in the store. Also, having them installed, but not running, has *zero* impact on your battery.
I point this out because if you're ever unsure about whether you should remove uninstall something, don't.
These are the apps I have personally chosen to uninstall or freeze, and my phone has worked flawlessly for several weeks:
Personally, I always selected "make a backup" with TitaniumBackup Pro before removing an app, and if TBP ever gave the warning message about that app not being deodexed, I instead chose to freeze it.
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True, it won't affect your phone much to remove these apps, but some of these still run in the background. I personally do this because I feel my phone runs a bit better and I just don't want them on my phone. I'm doing it for those who want to remove stuff but don't know what can be.
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You think those apps, "run in the background?" The majority of those apps, and probably more, don't even load up at all, much less "in the background" unless the user of the phone INSTRUCTS THEM TO.
And you put twlauncher in the "safe to remove" category? If ADW, LauncherPro, or whatever else a person is using crashes or gets corrupted, good luck!
This thread just shouldn't exist, the information has already been posted, in the thread where the instructions to even allow it to be done in the first place.
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You think those apps, "run in the background?" The majority of those apps, and probably more, don't even load up at all, much less "in the background" unless the user of the phone INSTRUCTS THEM TO.
And you put twlauncher in the "safe to remove" category? If ADW, LauncherPro, or whatever else a person is using crashes or gets corrupted, good luck!
This thread just shouldn't exist, the information has already been posted, in the thread where the instructions to even allow it to be done in the first place.
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Look, on my phone, lookout mobile along with Telenav and a few others still loaded on the memory. What I'm trying to do is something helpful for the blaze community.
If you have something against me, don't post it here. Pm me or bring it up with a moderator. If you want to post something help, please do so. ( I appreciate the fact that you reminded me to include a warning about touch wiz launcher). This is an open community where we try to help each other, not argue.
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I removed touchwiz first. I use rootuninstaller to remove what I don't want.
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Cirkustanz said:
I'll say it here again, "bloatware" is a misnomer of a term. Your phone will not work faster removing these applications. Personally I removed them because I didn't want to ever see the notification for them having an update in the store. Also, having them installed, but not running, has *zero* impact on your battery.
I point this out because if you're ever unsure about whether you should remove uninstall something, don't.
These are the apps I have personally chosen to uninstall or freeze, and my phone has worked flawlessly for several weeks:
Zinio
Yelp
Visual Voicemail (may be desirable to many, but if you use google voice it's not)
Telenav GPS (yes, your google maps gps will work just fine without it)
T-mobile Video Chat
T-mobile Name ID
T-mobile Mail
Slacker
Netflix
More for Me
MobileLife Family
Media Hub
Lookout Security (the app didn't even work for me so I found it useless)
Linear
Pro Apps
Kies air
Highlight
Game Base
Bonus Apps
411 & More
Personally, I always selected "make a backup" with TitaniumBackup Pro before removing an app, and if TBP ever gave the warning message about that app not being deodexed, I instead chose to freeze it.
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Your comment is completely untrue - Android is an operating system; just like any other - Windows, Linux, iOS, etc...
By removing applications that run in the backround and take critical memory (RAM) you instantly make your phone run faster...many of these applications run in the backround and the only way to stop them is to:
* Freeze them
* Uninstall them
THUS - removing applications that aren't vital to a user; and are taking system resources away; instantly speeds your phone up...not only do you free ram but you also take away applications which are using processor power...
...your comment couldn't be further from the truth and has no form of logic to it...sorry to bust your bubble.
...and don't get your panties in a wad and upset because someone has called you out and clearly disagrees with your flawed train of thought over the matter
SOOO removing applications that are junk, that you don't want...bloatware, etc - WILL speed up your phone...
Although one program can be considered bloatware to one user, and vital to another - I prefer the term "junkware" - just like Windows (Microsoft); the companies get kick backs for installing software...(T-Mobile)
michaelstigers said:
Your comment is completely untrue - Android is an operating system; just like any other - Windows, Linux, iOS, etc...
By removing applications that run in the backround and take critical memory (RAM) you instantly make your phone run faster...many of these applications run in the backround and the only way to stop them is to:
* Freeze them
* Uninstall them
THUS - removing applications that aren't vital to a user; and are taking system resources away; instantly speeds your phone up...not only do you free ram but you also take away applications which are using processor power...
...your comment couldn't be further from the truth and has no form of logic to it...sorry to bust your bubble.
...and don't get your panties in a wad and upset because someone has called you out and clearly disagrees with your flawed train of thought over the matter
SOOO removing applications that are junk, that you don't want...bloatware, etc - WILL speed up your phone...
Although one program can be considered bloatware to one user, and vital to another - I prefer the term "junkware" - just like Windows (Microsoft); the companies get kick backs for installing software...(T-Mobile)
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Samsung has actually optimized CPU and RAM quite well. Most of the "bloatware" does not take CPU or RAM, and some due. Removing them does not make a noticible difference on this phone, although on some past Samsung models it did.
And not to get off topic, but you can frame 'corrections' in a appropriate tone and not accuse him/her of being void of logic. Which wasn't even true.
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Samsung has actually optimized CPU and RAM quite well. Most of the "bloatware" does not take CPU or RAM, and some due. Removing them does not make a noticible difference on this phone, although on some past Samsung models it did.
And not to get off topic, but you can frame 'corrections' in a appropriate tone and not accuse him/her of being void of logic. Which wasn't even true.
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...if it quacks like a duck; and looks like a duck; and has logic like a duck - well, then it should swim in a pond, not be wrong; and give me no reason to correct it...
And you clarified my point even further - "most"...thanks
My posting was simply made so people were not under the WRONG assumption that taking a few minutes to get junkware off their O/S wouldn't make a difference. It will actually save a good amount of system resources; and give a much more rich experience that Google intended...
michaelstigers said:
...if it quacks like a duck; and looks like a duck; and has logic like a duck - well, then it should swim in a pond, not be wrong; and give me no reason to correct it...
And you clarified my point even further - "most"...thanks
My posting was simply made so people were not under the WRONG assumption that taking a few minutes to get junkware off their O/S wouldn't make a difference. It will actually save a good amount of system resources; and give a much more rich experience that Google intended...
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No, actually I did not clarify your point. My point was in contrast with yours. Rooting the phone has many other benefits than possibly speeding up a phone that's already optimized in this respect.
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Who cares. No one should.
The amount of time "saved" from "freeing up resources" so the phone can "have as rich of an experience as Google intended" is much less than the time it took for either one of us to write our posts, or for any would-be person to read them.
It's a dead issue, do whatever you want. Including having some silly opinion.
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No, actually I did not clarify your point. My point was in contrast with yours. Rooting the phone has many other benefits than possibly speeding up a phone that's already optimized in this respect.
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1 thing that we need to remember, is that this message board is not for arguing our points. How about we simply agree to disagree over this matter? You clearly are not going to see it my way - and I clearly believe that taking junkware/bloatware is clearly beneficial to the phone.
I have seen it in action on many android phones that I have serviced, and I also saw how removing junkware off of my personal blaze freed up a lo of memory.
What we should do is now let users of the thread that have seen 2 different peoples point of view make up their minds for themselves. If we continue to go back and forth it does nothing but take up valuable space here on the thread and does a disservice to the users...a healthy debate and conversation is good / but this is beginning to become toxic and redundant!
Thanks for a different point of view however and no hard feelings
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I could not have agreed more, and thanks for not taking a lot of offense to what I said.
Personally I am 1 that is always messing with my phone, so I put more time into it than most people ever would...gotta love ADHD and Ritalin
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FYI
i wouldn't get rid of the default Gallery app (Gallery3D.apk) it seems like for some reason you can't set a Lock screen wallpaper it only has Wallpaper gallery as an option but if i want to set a Home screen wallpaper i can choose from Live wallpapers, Quickpic Wallpaper (an gallery app i downloaded), & Wallpaper gallery.
With Gallery installed the Lock screen options are Gallery & Live wallpapers and when i tap on Gallery i get a bunch of options including the Quickpic and i set that as default and when i go to Quickpic and say "set as" i get options to set as Home screen or Lock screen wallpaper now as i didn't before without Gallery installed
So yeah not sure why i need the default Gallery app to set Lock screen wallpaper but whatever
Use autoresizewallpaper instead..don't need the stock gallery..I got rid of mine
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'bloat' and boot...
Removing 'bloatware' from an android (linux) environment will only effect boot time (phone will be fully booted/usable faster). As it is so often pointed out in forums, once an app is cached (most of the time this happens during boot) it is not using cpu cycles and thus not eating away at any battery life (the RAM will have the same power draw whether it is being used or not) - that is until that app is opened (as any running app will use battery). So if you are looking for a more responsive phone removing bloat isn't going to help - you are literally better off buying a more powerful phone. However I can attest to removing bloat and speeding up boot times from using a 1st gen Exhibit 4g. Removing the 'bloat' decreased my boot time on my exhibit by 10-15 seconds! But beyond speeding up boot times there is no real reason to remove 'bloat' (unless you just don't want those crappy apps on your phone). Let's not get on a tangent on ram cleaners (task killers) please... as they are worthless and do eat away at battery life (as the os realizes it needs to re-cache those apps...) :victory:
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Removing 'bloatware' from an android (linux) environment will only effect boot time (phone will be fully booted/usable faster). As it is so often pointed out in forums, once an app is cached (most of the time this happens during boot) it is not using cpu cycles and thus not eating away at any battery life (the RAM will have the same power draw whether it is being used or not) - that is until that app is opened (as any running app will use battery). So if you are looking for a more responsive phone removing bloat isn't going to help - you are literally better off buying a more powerful phone. However I can attest to removing bloat and speeding up boot times from using a 1st gen Exhibit 4g. Removing the 'bloat' decreased my boot time on my exhibit by 10-15 seconds! But beyond speeding up boot times there is no real reason to remove 'bloat' (unless you just don't want those crappy apps on your phone). Let's not get on a tangent on ram cleaners (task killers) please... as they are worthless and do eat away at battery life (as the os realizes it needs to re-cache those apps...) :victory:
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Look, we dont need any more of those kind of posts. I understand it wont affect much, but some do want to remove certain apps like myself. I have wanted to rename post to safe to remove apps, but i dont know how to do that. Unless you have something to contribute to this, dont post things like those apps arent bloatware or that they dont do anything to affect performance. We are trying to help each other out.
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no offence please
abraham.ramirez said:
Look, we dont need any more of those kind of posts. I understand it wont affect much, but some do want to remove certain apps like myself. I have wanted to rename post to safe to remove apps, but i dont know how to do that. Unless you have something to contribute to this, dont post things like those apps arent bloatware or that they dont do anything to affect performance. We are trying to help each other out.
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Uh.. wha? I believe you misunderstood my post entirely. I never said that there is no point in removing 'bloatware'/preinstalled apps. The purpose of my post was only to inform. Please re-read my post (without bias). There's this false assumption that removing bloat will make a phone faster and it's just not true. Removing '411 & more' & 'netflix' is NOT going to make my quadrant score higher or give me more FPS playing games.
I may be over-generalizing here but this is what I have come to understand in regards to Android:
Need more storage & want faster boot times? ---> remove bloat/preinstalled apps.
Want better battery life? --> buy extended battery, adjust screen brightness to lowest viewing level.
Want a faster phone? ---> get a custom rom with OC/buy setcpu and OC or buy a faster phone.
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Uh.. wha? I believe you misunderstood my post entirely. I never said that there is no point in removing 'bloatware'/preinstalled apps. The purpose of my post was only to inform. Please re-read my post (without bias). There's this false assumption that removing bloat will make a phone faster and it's just not true. Removing '411 & more' & 'netflix' is NOT going to make my quadrant score higher or give me more FPS playing games.
I may be over-generalizing here but this is what I have come to understand in regards to Android:
Need more storage & want faster boot times? ---> remove bloat/preinstalled apps.
Want better battery life? --> buy extended battery, adjust screen brightness to lowest viewing level.
Want a faster phone? ---> get a custom rom with OC/buy setcpu and OC or buy a faster phone.
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Okay, i see now. Sorry bout that. You are right. I have seen the same pattern with android that you describe and that is why i removed a few things from my phone
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So i've been recently thinking, why do we honestly need to root our G5?
(sorry for clickbait title but its true lol)
What spurred this thought for me was that my friend who had an S6 and S7 kept telling me i won't need to root.
And i'm starting to believe him.
I was able to almost completly theme my phone to black and white with icon packs and other apps that offer custom theme options with little problem.
I was able to change the DPI without root. What i'm unable to do without root so far is changing the ugly LG system emojis to Android or some other standard emojis.
Obviously we also lack the granular control root allows for, but even without root, tasker can do alot.
Pros:
Xposed Framework
More control in general
Cons:
Android Pay will cease to work
Discuss below why you think you need root for the G5.
Do the pros outweigh the cons?
2 main reason I root
To change the system icon with default launcher and to change my font all around system wide.
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Adaway
Remove some unwanted app in /system
Custom data backup/restore
Free hotspot, uninstall system apps (not freeze), ads, disable startup apps, disable system running services.
I have only one app running in background that consumes data the rest is blocked.
silly question but i'll entertain it.
For the same reason you want personal freedom in the world in which you live.
I bypass the tethering reporting with the non-root method below so I can use more than 7 GB a month. (This phone and my wife's IS our only internet connection) But for me I would like it for my data partition control. Plus I used systemless root on my N6 before this, had busybox, AND was able to use Android pay.... cause I didn't jack with the system partition. So, it is handy, but I CAN live without if needed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g3/general/lollipop-tethering-t3071188
I need it to test an unlocking method...otherwise, it really doesn't matter to me much outside of just messing with aosp.
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And for the tethering bypass, simply use pdanet, via usb that is and change your browser ua to safari or a mobile device (using ssl webpages also helps), also you can simply get a proxy like Charles proxy and change the entire system ua to null or a mobile device or safari as mentioned before.
Not hijacking your thread, just offering a tip I've been using for years with absolutely no issues.
I need root to delete T-MOBILE spyware, bloatware, and basically control MY device the way MY device should be configured MY way.
I like using Titanium Backup Pro, Terminal Emulator, and the various apps that require root.
I use root for 'taking back' the device I purchased. It's bad enough that the U.S. not only SIM-Locks your device to the carrier but the bootloader is locked and in most cases (depending on your carrier) the device is carrier branded. It's done out of greed. The great many carriers in Europe for example don't do this. I use root to rid of the bloatware, spyware and tracking T-Mobile and other carriers use. I use it for changing the system wide fonts of MY choosing and also for the apps that allow great flexibility and functionality (Titanium Bkup, TWRP, Xposed Framework). Your device is YOUR device and should be used in any manner you choose (legally, of course).
For the first time in years I can say I'm happy with a phone. A simple root would remove the bloat and give me more control for theming.
uninstall the god damn t-mobile apps and spyware
I actually have not needed root so far. I would have liked root at the beginning when I had this so I could install those $%@^$*% tmo apps sooner but I have removed them all and disabled those I couldn't. Afaik they are no longer running. The only thing I would like root for is to do ad blocking but I can say I'm happy with a phone for the first time.
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I actually have not needed root so far. I would have liked root at the beginning when I had this so I could install those $%@^$*% tmo apps sooner but I have removed them all and disabled those I couldn't. Afaik they are no longer running. The only thing I would like root for is to do ad blocking but I can say I'm happy with a phone for the first time.
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I use this for adblocking. https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/releases
TWRP backups are nice thou.
sharpknight said:
TWRP backups are nice thou.
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I use helium for that. I do agree however that titanium is more convenient. I usually required root so I could record phone calls. But it worked out of the box in the g5 so ad blocking was the only other real concern for me.
There are many reasons why the LG G5 needs root.
First off, we need to get rid of TMobile bloatware, because android by itself with nothing else open shouldn't use 2GB of RAM. The notion that this is even remotely acceptable is down right idiotic, that's even more bloat than Windows 10, the heaviest OS so far.
Second, we need to be able to completely disable the Nav bar, as it serves no purpose other than to use up screen space, and make it so swipe from bottom gestures aren't possible. Hardware buttons can be remapped to do all the same task, and then there is pi controls, a much faster, fluid alternative to software buttons.
Third, AdAway, enough said.
Forth, inapp and lvl emulation, for cool stuff
Fifth, we need to stop considering a phone as a toy which we cannot control the way we need to, and instead consider it as a little computer that is totally ours in every way we can imagine. You have a powerhouse in your pocket, that is actually better than desktops were in 2006-2007. Why shouldn't you be able to use it as well as you can any other computer, especially considering it is based on a platform whose philosophy is built around software freedom.
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There are many reasons why the LG G5 needs root.
First off, we need to get rid of TMobile bloatware, because android by itself with nothing else open shouldn't use 2GB of RAM. The notion that this is even remotely acceptable is down right idiotic, that's even more bloat than Windows 10, the heaviest OS so far.
Second, we need to be able to completely disable the Nav bar, as it serves no purpose other than to use up screen space, and make it so swipe from bottom gestures aren't possible. Hardware buttons can be remapped to do all the same task, and then there is pi controls, a much faster, fluid alternative to software buttons.
Third, AdAway, enough said.
Forth, inapp and lvl emulation, for cool stuff
Fifth, we need to stop considering a phone as a toy which we cannot control the way we need to, and instead consider it as a little computer that is totally ours in every way we can imagine. You have a powerhouse in your pocket, that is actually better than desktops were in 2006-2007. Why shouldn't you be able to use it as well as you can any other computer, especially considering it is based on a platform whose philosophy is built around software freedom.
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Sixth. Universal data backup/restore which lets you backup/restore/transfer app data among different Android devices
kwkw480 said:
silly question but i'll entertain it.
For the same reason you want personal freedom in the world in which you live.
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And also Adaway
sharpknight said:
What spurred this thought for me was that my friend who had an S6 and S7 kept telling me i won't need to root.
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The S6 allows you to mute the camera shutter sound while leaving your volume on. All Samsung phones that I've used do this. No such option on the G4 or G5 without root. Some terribly incorrect posts say this is some legal requirement. If that's the case then my S6 appears to be above the law. Add this to the list.
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The S6 allows you to mute the camera shutter sound while leaving your volume on. All Samsung phones that I've used do this. No such option on the G4 or G5 without root. Some terribly incorrect posts say this is some legal requirement. If that's the case then my S6 appears to be above the law. Add this to the list.
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It's the law (at least in Japan) that all cameras/phones have to have an unmutable shutter sound to deter upskirt pervs if I recall correctly.
I am being driven crazy by random pop-adds even when no apps are open.
I contacted Samsung support and they told me apps can pop up add even when apps are closed, maybe their right but I have my doubts. They advised me to put my phone in "Safe Mode", but why should I be forced to do that?
I can't figure out why on a phone I paid close to $1k for and a service (Verizon) I pay almost $100 a month for that I keep being interrupted by pop up adds. I truly boggle my mind and they pop up when I'm trying to answer my phone, manage my calendar, text messages, etc.
There are adds for games, software, apps, services, you name it I get pop adds for it.
I can't even figure out who's generating them!
Is this happening to others?
What are the ads advertising?
Not happening on either of our Samsungs. Nope.
I'd boot to safe mode, and if you get a no show from there, at least you boot-up system is clean. Doubtful it will be in the startup. Then I'd go into my setup/applications, and go after shutting down any apps running, one by one. It's a PITA, but you will come across it. Wish I knew a more direct method/easier way.
Hopefully someone will come along with a more elegant, and simple method.
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I am being driven crazy by random pop-adds even when no apps are open.
I contacted Samsung support and they told me apps can pop up add even when apps are closed, maybe their right but I have my doubts. They advised me to put my phone in "Safe Mode", but why should I be forced to do that?
I can't figure out why on a phone I paid close to $1k for and a service (Verizon) I pay almost $100 a month for that I keep being interrupted by pop up adds. I truly boggle my mind and they pop up when I'm trying to answer my phone, manage my calendar, text messages, etc.
There are adds for games, software, apps, services, you name it I get pop adds for it.
I can't even figure out who's generating them!
Is this happening to others?
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Yes your not the only one.
Generally speaking most of the third party apps that you download and install from playstore have adds in them ( free versions ).reading the app description usually down the bottom somewhere will tell you if it has adds. Paying for the apps usually gives some extra features and no adds. Web browsers are another issue to with adds showing up. It could be possible that your provider maybe feeding you adds(not sure about that though).
While safe mode will start your phone without the 3rd party apps it won't tell you which app is causing the the issue and you can't use those apps.
Closing apps may not help as they still tend to run in the background.
Being offline from the internet will help as well unless the apps have adds in the app itself.
Uninstalling apps and reinstalling one by one to find which one(s) have adds can be done but is rather time consuming.
About the only thing you can do to try and stop adds is to install an adblocker app it works for me.
Have a read of this thread for more info on adblocker apps hope it may help you out.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-ad-blocking-t3218167
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What are the ads advertising?
I'd boot to safe mode, and if you get a no show from there, at least you boot-up system is clean. Doubtful it will be in the startup. Then I'd go into my setup/applications, and go after shutting down any apps running, one by one. It's a PITA, but you will come across it. Wish I knew a more direct method/easier way. .
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Thanks for responding.
As I said in my post the adds are a mixed bag. I'll give your suggestions a try.
Thanks again..
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Yes your not the only one.
Generally speaking most of the third party apps that you download and install from playstore have adds in them ( free versions ).reading the app description usually down the bottom somewhere will tell you if it has adds.Paying for the apps usually gives some extra features and no adds
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Yes, I'm familiar with the way the adds work and I often pay, since it's usually only a few dollars, to be rid of them, and it supports the developer. The odd thing is that this has only recently become a problem. It never happened with my S6, or with any of the phones I had before that.
Web browsers are another issue to with adds showing up. It could be possible that your provider maybe feeding you adds(not sure about that though).]
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I thought about that too and considered calling my provider, but, like you, I'm "not sure about that"
While safe mode will start your phone without the 3rd party apps it won't tell you which app is causing the issue and you can't use those apps.
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That's why I didn't like Samsung Support's solution! But it will reduce the variables to almost zero, so I'll give a try. If I get no adds I'll know it's an app
Closing apps may not help as they still tend to run in the background.
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So I guess they were right.
Being offline from the internet will help as well unless the apps have adds in the app itself.[/QUOTE
Hmm, hadn't thought of that option.
Uninstalling apps and reinstalling one by one to find which one(s) have adds can be done but is rather time consuming.
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I agree! What about running "Force Stop" on them? Never was quite sure what that did though.
About the only thing you can do to try and stop adds is to install an adblocker app it works for me.
Have a read of this thread for more info on adblocker apps hope it may help you out.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-ad-blocking-t3218167
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Ok, thanks. I'll check then out.
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What about running "Force Stop" on them? Never was quite sure what that did though.
Force stop will stop or for want of a better term kill the app so it won't keep running in background until you restart the app again.
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mikeacox said:
What about running "Force Stop" on them? Never was quite sure what that did though.
Force stop will stop or for want of a better term kill the app so it won't keep running in background until you restart the app again.
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Thanks, that is good to know. Seems like I could Forced Stop apps that I suspect then just start them later.
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