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Anyone tried using NeverWet on their phone yet to make it waterproof?
Scroll to 3:25 and see how they applied it to an iPhone4 to make it waterproof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrjXSsfxMQ&feature=youtu.be
Available for $20 at Home Depot:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/204216476?productId=204216476&storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053
I am not sure if the coating still allows conductivity so the ports will work.
It doesn't look like it conducts across the coating since the phone wasn't fried after they coated it, so that is a positive.
I use wireless for everything with this phone (wireless charging, bluetooth earphones, dropbox, etc.) so it wouldn't necessarily detract me as long as it doesn't affect those signals.
Another thing I am not sure about is how long it lasts (how often would you need to apply it to rely on it to work over time).
I am still trying to figure out why this hasn't been capitalized by any other manufacturer (car companies, electronic companies, clothing companies, anyone product really). There must be a downside besides the frost coating you get if you spray a thick layer on dark surfaces.
If anyone digs out more useful information please post it here!
This is actually pretty sweet!!!! I can think of a million uses for this! Good find OP!
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This stuff has been around for a while, it can be bought by the drum on Amazon, but the price has always been way high. It looks like it is finally coming down in price.
nice, i wouldn't do it but id pay for a company to.
If you spray this stuff on an "Active" does the Universe implode?
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If you spray this stuff on an "Active" does the Universe implode?
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I was thinking the same thing. Let's test it.
But this is pretty cool, but I don't think it would work too well, or as effectively as the active.
mattpayne92 said:
I was thinking the same thing. Let's test it.
But this is pretty cool, but I don't think it would work too well, or as effectively as the active.
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I think if it is applied correctly to the original S4, it could work well. The video showed how to apply it to an iPhone, but I think there might be more to it than what they showed. The question becomes where to apply it and how much to use? Obviously it would just help add to water resistance and wouldn't make it completely waterproof. But for the Active, it might help to close the small gaps that seem to let a little water in (earphone and speaker holes, etc...), but again, the question becomes how much and where. I don't think spraying it on the screen will work out so well.
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I think if it is applied correctly to the original S4, it could work well. The video showed how to apply it to an iPhone, but I think there might be more to it than what they showed. The question becomes where to apply it and how much to use? Obviously it would just help add to water resistance and wouldn't make it completely waterproof. But for the Active, it might help to close the small gaps that seem to let a little water in (earphone and speaker holes, etc...), but again, the question becomes how much and where. I don't think spraying it on the screen will work out so well.
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Right, I was thinking it would be perfect to use on the Active in those spots. Maybe it would allow the removal of the USB cover as well. However, I don't want to be the test dummy so I'll likely keep my phone as is.
Save your self the headache
http://www.liquipel.com
http://youtu.be/u_1-riIi0cI
Thinking about sending my S4 off to get ti done while I use my active...then return the active and pay my 35...
Liqupel doesn't work that great.
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planoman said:
Save your self the headache
http://www.liquipel.com
http://youtu.be/u_1-riIi0cI
Thinking about sending my S4 off to get ti done while I use my active...then return the active and pay my 35...
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I know that has been an option for a while but I think the NeverWet has the same potential if applied correctly. I think the fact that the liquipel people apply it for you helps in the fact that they have experience in knowing how much and where to apply, but at the same time it means you would have to send the phone back to them for touch ups and reapplications...which can be expensive and time consuming.
And regardless of what either one of them claims, I would still just consider it an extra level of water resistance and not water proofing. I would like to see a blind test of several phones coated in each product and how well each product actually works in real world situations.
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I think if it is applied correctly to the original S4, it could work well. The video showed how to apply it to an iPhone, but I think there might be more to it than what they showed. The question becomes where to apply it and how much to use? Obviously it would just help add to water resistance and wouldn't make it completely waterproof. But for the Active, it might help to close the small gaps that seem to let a little water in (earphone and speaker holes, etc...), but again, the question becomes how much and where. I don't think spraying it on the screen will work out so well.
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What they were saying in the video was to apply it to every hole and cut in the phone where water would get in through.
To me it looks like Liquipel is not the exact same thing. NeverWet created a consumer grade super hydrophobic solution. I am sure a mask is probably recommended, but you won't need to apply it in a vacuum to work and not harm your lungs.
Liquipel doesn't apply the coating based on the device. They are like a factory, putting the phone in the chamber, creating a vacuum, releasing the gas (first coating), and then "plasma" (second coating) to bind the gas to your phone. It potentially is better, since it probably is an even thickness of a coat everywhere the gas reaches (including the insides), but I can think it can also be worse since they probably kept the amount of coating to a minimum to not obstruct the screen. If you apply by hand, you would use more or less depending on the location, which sounds more reliable to me.
Galaxy S4 is $59.99 + $10 for priority shipping. If they gave you a guarantee that it will be water resistant or they will reimburse you for the phone, than obviously it would be a better option, but they don't. In fact, they disclaim:
Liquipel applies a preventative coating designed to aid in the event of accidental liquid exposure, and assumes no responsibility for water damaged devices. Liquipel does not recommend your device ever come in contact with liquid.
That's false advertisement. Showing how you put a phone you treated in the water, and than saying we don't recommend you ever do it...
I don't like that they are using celebrities either.
MaXKilleR said:
What they were saying in the video was to apply it to every hole and cut in the phone where water would get in through.
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I agree with most of what you said, but I also think that they don't endorse getting your phone wet, simply because they do not want to be held liable if their product doesn't hold up.
But I do want a waterproof case in the worst way.
AnthomX said:
I agree with most of what you said, but I also think that they don't endorse getting your phone wet, simply because they do not want to be held liable if their product doesn't hold up.
But I do want a waterproof case in the worst way.
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I know that they want to cover their ass, but my issue is with them advertising it as an invisible waterproof case and not what it really is, a "just in case you drop your phone in water this MIGHT save it" solution.
You don't see case manufacturers dropping and throwing phones in their cases to show how durable they are and then tell you that it may not do its job when you drop it so don't do it...
I will probably buy the sprays tomorrow and experiment with an old phone I have laying around to see if the ports on it still work.
The only hardware feature missing for me in the galaxy S4 is being waterproof.
What about Galaxy S4 Active + Never wet...... ? Amazing....
Any one try the new liguidpel 3.0 one part mechanical dip?
S4 Active isn't that water resistant as you think
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...6/25/samsung-galaxy-s4-active-review/2455185/
will the source code to the kernel help root this phone?? its out....
opensource.samsung com reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=SGH-I537
root me teather me do what you will. gimme gimme gimme
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S4 Active isn't that water resistant as you think
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...6/25/samsung-galaxy-s4-active-review/2455185/
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That scares me... I played in the pool for a long time with my active and it worked with no issues. I did swap it out for a new one because the power button was loose. So now im afraid to test the new one out because if it isn't air tight like my other one I don't want to lose it.
I plan on getting this and spraying my S4 Active's internals so that will probably make it ast a lot longer also my windshield in my car and my wife's phone
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That scares me... I played in the pool for a long time with my active and it worked with no issues. I did swap it out for a new one because the power button was loose. So now im afraid to test the new one out because if it isn't air tight like my other one I don't want to lose it.
I plan on getting this and spraying my S4 Active's internals so that will probably make it ast a lot longer also my windshield in my car and my wife's phone
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And I'm sure Sammy will find reasons like: you kept the phone too much or too deep in the water.
It seems like the phone can be wet only in case of accident, not for pool playing.
demlasjr said:
It seems like the phone can be wet only in case of accident, not for pool playing.
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LOL. The active has a camera mode for taking pictures under water.
Has everyone seen this new wave of screen protectors that claim to be impact resistant?
Several companies popped up in the last few months marketing a "brand new," "revolutionary" screen protector to absorb impacts. The thing that makes me curious is that all of these products seem remarkably similar. They all have a hard impact dispersing outer layer and a couple soft impact absorbing layers.
One of the companies, Evolutivelabs, is on Kickstarter and claims to be started by a couple college kids, but I suspect they're all the same product and being sold by multiple resellers because they all claim to offer 5x increased impact protection over plain Gorilla Glass.
Similar products are Armor Guard, Buff Armor, and Tech 21's Impact Shield.
Does anyone know anything about these products?
Links??
This is it, i think.
http://www.evolutivelabs.com/rhinoshield/
John.
And these:
http://www.tech21.uk.com/news/news_item/impact_shield_finally_arrives
https://www.buyarmorguard.com/
Yeah, those were the ones and Buff Armor is here: http://www.buffarmor.com/
Here's different one...
http://www.clearplex.com/
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Here's different one...
http://www.clearplex.com/
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Really a handgun? Why buy a kevlar vest when you can just build up from this screen protector...:silly:
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Really a handgun? Why buy a kevlar vest when you can just build up from this screen protector...:silly:
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Yeah, that's hard to believe. Does anyone have any experience with this "bullet-proof" screen protector?
I'm also very curious...
Scblacksunshine said:
Really a handgun? Why buy a kevlar vest when you can just build up from this screen protector...:silly:
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Got your attention, didn't it?
reaeg said:
Yeah, that's hard to believe. Does anyone have any experience with this "bullet-proof" screen protector?
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You did notice that the phone was only propped up with not much holding it? That will reduce the overall impact because there is nothing to stop it from flying back. That probably reduced the chance of the screen shattering?
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I'm also very curious...
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I actually created a thread asking to see if anyone had used the brand and all I got was replies about getting glass protectors instead... So I guess not. I've gone without a protector since having gorilla glass on my phones, but with the protectors listed here, I am reconsidering.
I currently have a Crystal Clear Spigen on mine for around two weeks and already it's scratched pretty badly. I've heard that it scratches pretty easily but it's ridiculous that it has this many from just being in my pocket. If these protectors really do what they say they do I would be interested. I'm kind of skeptical of buying expensive protectors though due to reports that the expensive glass protectors scratch easily too...
Evolutive Labs one seems pretty impressive, but as far as I can see they don't have S4 screen protectors yet.
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Got your attention, didn't it?
You did notice that the phone was only propped up with not much holding it? That will reduce the overall impact because there is nothing to stop it from flying back. That probably reduced the chance of the screen shattering?
I actually created a thread asking to see if anyone had used the brand and all I got was replies about getting glass protectors instead... So I guess not. I've gone without a protector since having gorilla glass on my phones, but with the protectors listed here, I am reconsidering.
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Maybe it's my inexperience with guns, but what hits the phone looks like steel balls from a scattershot and not a regular bullet. Also the fact that there is multiple impacts would lead me to believe that this is probably very carefully staged.
Matridom said:
Maybe it's my inexperience with guns, but what hits the phone looks like steel balls from a scattershot and not a regular bullet. Also the fact that there is multiple impacts would lead me to believe that this is probably very carefully staged.
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I found the original blog post which brought ClearPlex to my attention (watch as a link from some other blog I normally read) showing the S4 being shot from a "drone"...
http://www.phonearena.com/
Same gun, but what is more(?) interesting is the description of the gun in the article. The gun can use a normal .45-caliber round but also a .410 shotshell (which is basically the same as shotgun shell with a load of pelts). So yeah the it won't stop a bullet, but it will stop high speed small metal objects. There are other videos where they actually shot an iPhone with a regular shotgun which, of course, had the same results. Still pretty impressive.
I don't believe that gun stuff...
I'm really tempted to buying one but I don't know
frrlod said:
I don't believe that gun stuff...
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Yeah it is a stunt... It's probably equivalent to hitting the screen with a hammer, pretty unbelievable I do believe the stunts are probably real (IE not a fake phone).
Honestly I don't care if you have a dome and it's the best ever. This is my experience with the dome. Sum it up. Low quality trash. Brand New sealed ordered from Whitestone out of the box it had a pretty deep scrach in it. And for how much junk Zagg is at least there product does not come out of the box scrached. Attached is an image under magnification.
Check out the glass before you install and before you remove your current protector. You are not buying quality here. I had high expectations for this but after this I'll just go back to brands that preform simple steps in quality control.
Lots of people are pleased. I for one say a scratch out of the box of a new product at this price point is 100% un acceptable. And this is the only brand that I seen this in. In my experience this is the lowest quality glass out for the note 9. Yeah Zagg has some poor design choices like edge adhesive and on the elite the black borders. But the glass is flawless and clear. Unlike this Whitestone.
If you can't spot a scratch that deep I now question the quality of the optical adhesive they use. I work in the optoelectronics industry. I use optical adhesive pretty often so I'm going to check out the other tube and see how it stacks up against the stuff I use.
Full review will cover the unboxing, install as well as that moment that I discover that scrach with my reaction lol. Also high res images of the scratch along with precise mesurements of it. And why I have it at work I'll be going more into the glass using some of the equipment we have here.
If the dome you got is flawless that's great. I'm happy for you. However that's not my experience with this product. my review is a sample size of 1. There are way they could of protected the glass like other manufacturer's do but they cut that corner and lowered product quality to keep cost down. After all the reviews I bought with confidence and received a damaged product. I have contacted Whitestone about this but I will say that Zagg offered to send out a elite free to replace the one I took off and said that I should not be punished for buying into the hype and the note 9 deserves a quality product to protect the best display on a smartphone. That says alot about Zagg by eliminating the shipping. We will see how Whitestone handles this. If they send out a replacement that is a representation of what others have prazed I would be more then happy. But I think they are going to try and play the pay to ship that back, then pay for shipping on another product so we can ring even more money out of you. But sorry guys. You burned me one time. You won't burn me again.
Again. I haven't seen anyone else with this issue. As far as I know this is a single case. There may be more who knows but I'll be 100% honest in this. The picture was taken under magnification to show it's not just a scratch in the oleophobic coating. From a picture you can't feel the scratch catch your finger nail when you rub it. If Whitestone decides to take care of this issue I will update this post with how they handled it and there response. Until then for all those who are ocd about there displays. This is what a scratch looks like.
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Whitestone is in communication on how to make this right. I have discovered another issue. This is with the oleophobic coating. One spot has some heat damage. I sent them this picture to see how this could happen in there process.
Working in the optoelectronics industry for years. I look forward to offering them some input on how to keep things like these from hurting there brand to new potential customers. First product from them and as of right now the last. I pay for the premium product I demand a premium product. I will keep this update with there solution on this matter and what they think can cause the issues.
The scratch I believe was cased when after inspection when placed in the bag. The bag is not optics quality and being so is may contain debris. Example out air cans we use are not normal dust cans. They are filtered to sub micron purity. There's quality and then optical quality. When placed in the bag the scratch was formed. Protective film would ensure that never happens or optical quality bags. Corner was cut and the product suffered. That's a fact. As for the oleophobic coating. I would need more info on there production line. I have a theory of what could cause that. I have seen similar issues with microscope optical coatings on production equipment.
So far they have replied quickly and seem eager to make things right and assure me that the product meets there quality standards.
I think when finished I will have the most in depth review of this. Since I had to take it to work for pictures I was able to test the included adhesive, cure light optical power and make exact cure times required for a full proper cure. Mesure the thickness of the adhesive layer under the glass and other stuff. It's probably going to be about a 30-45min video I will post on YouTube. If interested I am willing to do the same for other protectors if there is interest. Since most reviews are just stick it on and it fits so it must be the best. We can dive into things a bit more and actually look at the product.
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Told to use the warranty form online. Pictures were sent to there hq in Korea. They made a coupon code that will wave the shipping. Excellent support.
User error.
bignazpwns said:
Honestly I don't care if you have a dome and it's the best ever. This is my experience with the dome. Sum it up. Low quality trash. Brand New sealed ordered from Whitestone out of the box it had a pretty deep scrach in it. And for how much junk Zagg is at least there product does not come out of the box scrached.
Check out the glass before you install and before you remove your current protector. You are not buying quality here. I had high expectations for this but after this I'll just go back to brands that preform simple steps in quality control.
Lots of people are pleased. I for one say a scratch out of the box of a new product at this price point is 100% un acceptable. And this is the only brand that I seen this in. In my experience this is the lowest quality glass out for the note 9. Yeah Zagg has some poor design choices like edge adhesive and on the elite the black borders. But the glass is flawless and clear. Unlike this Whitestone.
If you can't spot a scratch that deep I now question the quality of the optical adhesive they use. I work in the optoelectronics industry. I use optical adhesive pretty often so I'm going to check out the other tube and see how it stacks up against the stuff I use.
Full review will cover the unboxing, install as well as that moment that I discover that scrach with my reaction lol. Also high res images of the scratch along with precise mesurements of it. And why I have it at work I'll be going more into the glass using some of the equipment we have here.
If the dome you got is flawless that's great. I'm happy for you. However that's not my experience with this product. my review is a sample size of 1. There are way they could of protected the glass like other manufacturer's do but they cut that corner and lowered product quality to keep cost down. After all the reviews I bought with confidence and received a damaged product. I have contacted Whitestone about this but I will say that Zagg offered to send out a elite free to replace the one I took off and said that I should not be punished for buying into the hype and the note 9 deserves a quality product to protect the best display on a smartphone. That says alot about Zagg by eliminating the shipping. We will see how Whitestone handles this. If they send out a replacement that is a representation of what others have prazed I would be more then happy. But I think they are going to try and play the pay to ship that back, then pay for shipping on another product so we can ring even more money out of you. But sorry guys. You burned me one time. You won't burn me again.
Again. I haven't seen anyone else with this issue. As far as I know this is a single case. There may be more who knows but I'll be 100% honest in this. The picture was taken under magnification to show it's not just a scratch in the oleophobic coating. From a picture you can't feel the scratch catch your finger nail when you rub it. If Whitestone decides to take care of this issue I will update this post with how they handled it and there response. Until then for all those who are ocd about there displays. This is what a scratch looks like.
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Mine was scratched pretty deeply as well out of the box. I just don't feel like going through the installation process again, so I guess I'll just keep it as long as I can without it driving me crazy.
I advise everyone to inspect the glass of the protector before installing.
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BigMosely said:
User error.
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User error because there was a scratch?? You sound like a troll.
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User error.
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I'm sorry to hear that. It's not hard to put on. Maybe next time you would take your time and you won't have user error.
Update they messaged me me back seeing how we can fix this. I told them what I think caused this on there end but I have another issue and asked them about there quality control. Needed info as if I tell my subs to buy something it's of quality. No excuses for this.
I'm not mad about the scratch. Gave me content and for the first time ever the dome is getting looked at. And if we cannot get crazy I can fire up the Scanning electron microscope and we can dive into it lol.
Just for reference. Was your scratch 1/4 inch under the bixby button and to the right 1/4 inch going vertically?
bignazpwns said:
I'm sorry to hear that. It's not hard to put on. Maybe next time you would take your time and you won't have user error.
Update they messaged me me back seeing how we can fix this. I told them what I think caused this on there end but I have another issue and asked them about there quality control. Needed info as if I tell my subs to buy something it's of quality. No excuses for this.
I'm not mad about the scratch. Gave me content and for the first time ever the dome is getting looked at. And if we cannot get crazy I can fire up the Scanning electron microscope and we can dive into it lol.
Just for reference. Was your scratch 1/4 inch under the bixby button and to the right 1/4 inch going vertically?
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Scan the note 9 screen with the electron microscope. Would like to see pics .
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Limeybastard said:
Scan the note 9 screen with the electron microscope. Would like to see pics .
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People are using our Scanning electron right now but here are some high magnification images from out just microscope.
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People are using our Scanning electron right now but here are some high magnification images from out just microscope.
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That's amazing. Any chance in showing some glass defects?
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People are using our Scanning electron right now but here are some high magnification images from out just microscope.
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One more
Limeybastard said:
That's amazing. Any chance in showing some glass defects?
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What kind of defects do you wanna see?
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What kind of defects do you wanna see?
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Factory ones. Ones that the eye cannot see. Perhaps in the glass areas and also th frame . Especially the area where the glass meets the frame , the so called gap.
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Factory ones. Ones that the eye cannot see. Perhaps in the glass areas and also th frame . Especially the area where the glass meets the frame , the so called gap.
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Yeah I'll get see I day or two and I'll start a thread for it.
My experience from the Dome Glass... I ordered the 2 Pack from Amazon, I got the package a little bit wet from the LOCA glue. I successfully installed the glass on my N9, but it had a small scratch on it that I noticed after I turned on the UV light to dry the glue. After about one week little cracks appeared in the glue I contact Amazon and they replaced it (had to sent it back). Now I have the new one on my screen for 3 weeks and everything is good. I hope it will stay that way.
When it works it's the best screen protector I have ever had (and I had them all).
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My experience from the Dome Glass... I ordered the 2 Pack from Amazon, I got the package a little bit wet from the LOCA glue. I successfully installed the glass on my N9, but it had a small scratch on it that I noticed after I turned on the UV light to dry the glue. After about one week little cracks appeared in the glue I contact Amazon and they replaced it (had to sent it back). Now I have the new one on my screen for 3 weeks and everything is good. I hope it will stay that way.
When it works it's the best screen protector I have ever had (and I had them all).
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There support was fast. From what I seen I rate this a 3 on a scale to 5. The oleophobic coating is absolutely trash. But we'll see how it is on the replacement since I know there is a defect in this units coating. I'll give my final opinion on it when the replacement comes in and will compare the quality of the glass and coating to some other brands.
FYI... Here is a link that may be of interest to those who are wanting to know a little more about the much discussed scratches on the etched glass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so4HSVnNZQo
Cliffnotes... Erica scratchifies the back of her phone and cleans it up with soap, water, and a toothbrush. Scratches are indeed gone.
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FYI... Here is a link that may be of interest to those who are wanting to know a little more about the much discussed scratches on the etched glass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so4HSVnNZQo
Cliffnotes... Erica scratchifies the back of her phone and cleans it up with soap, water, and a toothbrush. Scratches are indeed gone.
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Yeah, recent videos have given me more confidence about the resilience of the back glass.
What's odd is that JerryRigEverything ran the phone through his test and concluded that the back scratches very easily from "coins and keys", which is clearly wrong. Normally I trust his videos but now I'm left shaking my head at his conclusions.
His video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD1nfDauiaI
I watched it as well; I almost can't blame him (or anyone) for thinking it's scratched. We all know what scratches look like and don't normally expect they're going to need further examination to verify that conclusion. I do have to agree that he should have gone a little further than he did because his videos specifically focus on durability. Gonna be in the business of making that call you need to get it right.
I would have put mine in a case no matter what for drop purposes but Its good for us to see I don't need to swaddle it in a down comforter from the moment it comes out of the box until i can get it in one.
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Yeah, recent videos have given me more confidence about the resilience of the back glass.
What's odd is that JerryRigEverything ran the phone through his test and concluded that the back scratches very easily from "coins and keys", which is clearly wrong. Normally I trust his videos but now I'm left shaking my head at his conclusions.
His video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD1nfDauiaI
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The best part though is if you look in Erica's comments on that video. Both JerryRigEverything and MKBHD both comment to say they were both shocked and impressed.
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I would have put mine in a case no matter what for drop purposes but Its good for us to see I don't need to swaddle it in a down comforter from the moment it comes out of the box until i can get it in one.
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Agreed. This is making me feel much better. I have a screen protector and a Spigen TPU case awaiting my phone's arrival today (come on Fedex!!). However, after seeing the initial reviews of easy scratching, I was going to leave my phone boxed up until my DBrand skin (for extra protection between the phone and case) arrived. But now, I'm just going to throw the phone in the case, install the screen protector and call it good. I'll still install the DBrand skin when it arrives but I'm no longer terrified of getting permanent scratches between now and then.
Omeris12 said:
The best part though is if you look in Erica's comments on that video. Both JerryRigEverything and MKBHD both comment to say they were both shocked and impressed.
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Didn't peruse the comments, good find!
Putting up a poll out of sheer curiosity.
Since these phones need a case, any dark color works fine.
Without a case they will get TKOed... have one from day one.
blackhawk said:
Since these phones need a case, any dark color works fine.
Without a case they will get TKOed... have one from day one.
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Yeah I plan on ordering a case for mine ASAP. I just need to figure out what one I want. I love the low-profile feel of my N10+ 5G when I don't have the case, but I'll admit that I've broken the digitizer a few times. Thank you for insurance and $39 LCD/Digitizer replacements. Haha
I was torn for the longest time, black or burgandy. In the end, black was my choice. Can't go wrong with black. And coming from the blue note 9, I missed black phones.
eaoosa said:
I was torn for the longest time, black or burgandy. In the end, black was my choice. Can't go wrong with black. And coming from the blue note 9, I missed black phones.
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I've had the N10 in Aura Glow, White, and Black. I thought I would pick black, but the burgundy looks so good.
I have the Graphite on pre-order
vpr5703 said:
Yeah I plan on ordering a case for mine ASAP. I just need to figure out what one I want. I love the low-profile feel of my N10+ 5G when I don't have the case, but I'll admit that I've broken the digitizer a few times. Thank you for insurance and $39 LCD/Digitizer replacements. Haha
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Eventually Zizo will have a case. That's all I use on my N10+'s. Zero damage in spite of a dozen drops onto concrete. The Bolt provides full face plant protection which also helps holding the phone and accidental touches. A good case makes the phone easier to use. Pay special attention to the protection given to the spen corner as these are corner hitting phones when dropped... that is if it doesn't face plant
The problem is any impact that can damage the display, frame rail or rear cover can also take out the mobo, cam, etc. The mobo and cams are especially susceptible and intolerant to high G loading impacts and board flexing. What seems like minor damage can get very expensive and/or erratic behavior, failures.
Samsung has some clear cases on pre-order right now, with and without a kickstand. I will probably get one of those.
blackhawk said:
Eventually Zizo will have a case. That's all I use on my N10+'s. Zero damage in spite of a dozen drops onto concrete. The Bolt provides full face plant protection which also helps holding the phone and accidental touches. A good case makes the phone easier to use. Pay special attention to the protection given to the spen corner as these are corner hitting phones when dropped... that is if it doesn't face plant
The problem is any impact that can damage the display, frame rail or rear cover can also take out the mobo, cam, etc. The mobo and cams are especially susceptible and intolerant to high G loading impacts and board flexing. What seems like minor damage can get very expensive and/or erratic behavior, failures.
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yeah with the mechanical OIS that doesn't surprise me at all. That and lenses require pretty precise alignment as well. And all of the phones I've damaged have been from face plants....The rear has only been cracked once after I rolled onto it working under my car.
I went with black. I ordered the Spigen Rugged Armor and Tough Armor in black.
vpr5703 said:
yeah with the mechanical OIS that doesn't surprise me at all. That and lenses require pretty precise alignment as well. And all of the phones I've damaged have been from face plants....The rear has only been cracked once after I rolled onto it working under my car.
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I've been lucky with face plants as most were on level surfaces and it landed on the case guard. A couple drops though did catch the display, once the factory screen protector and a couple of times Gorilla IQ Sheild.
Both protected the display from a sure marring.
It's impossible to completely protect the display but you can do an adequate job most times.
The case should be slightly higher than the display on the sides and even higher on the ends.
Nghtmare said:
Samsung has some clear cases on pre-order right now, with and without a kickstand. I will probably get one of those.
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Hard polycarbonate doesn't absorb much energy from an impact.. if it doesn't absorb it, it can transfer it to the device. Good for scratch protection but a good corner hit on concrete will not be pretty.
blackhawk said:
I've been lucky with face plants as most were on level surfaces and it landed on the case guard. A couple drops though did catch the display, once the factory screen protector and a couple of times Gorilla IQ Sheild.
Both protected the display from a sure marring.
It's impossible to completely protect the display but you can do an adequate job most times.
The case should be slightly higher than the display on the sides and even higher on the ends.
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The worst part about this situation? I worked in a cell phone store as a flippin' repair tech for 6 1/2 years. If anyone should know better...It's me. LOL
vpr5703 said:
The worst part about this situation? I worked in a cell phone store as a flippin' repair tech for 6 1/2 years. If anyone should know better...It's me. LOL
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Lol, you're desensitized
The incredible amount of trouble a damaged or lost flagship phone would cause keeps me in check.
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Hard polycarbonate doesn't absorb much energy from an impact.. if it doesn't absorb it, it can transfer it to the device. Good for scratch protection but a good corner hit on concrete will not be pretty.
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In my opinion Spigen prices have increase a lot since the last time I bought from them. I want a clear case to show the Graphite colour.
I love the way the Burgundy looks. It's almost a shame to have to cover it up with a case.
Nghtmare said:
In my opinion Spigen prices have increase a lot since the last time I bought from them. I want a clear case to show the Graphite colour.
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I hear you but I think functionality and survivability are more important. The cost in time and aggravation outweigh the pretty face.
So all I look for is a dark colored phone to blend with the case. You could get a graphite grey case...
blackhawk said:
I hear you but I think functionality and survivability are more important. The cost in time and aggravation outweigh the pretty face.
So all I look for is a dark colored phone to blend with the case. You could get a graphite grey case...
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Never mind, I went to the US website to check if they had any earlier today. I just found them on Amazon UK, and for some reason they are charging US people almost double. For example the Tough Armor is £19 here, and 45 dollars in the US. So I might buy 1 besides the Samsung case to check it out.
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Lol, you're desensitized
The incredible amount of trouble a damaged or lost flagship phone would cause keeps me in check.
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At least I've got insurance via Verizon. It's paid for itself about 3 times now.
Nghtmare said:
In my opinion Spigen prices have increase a lot since the last time I bought from them. I want a clear case to show the Graphite colour.
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You ordered an S22 Ultra and a $16 Spigen case is expensive? Okay then.
Spigen Rugged Armor
Spigen Tough Armor