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Got a THL W8+ from fastcardtech. 258.00 usd with free shipping.
a little expensive, but somehow worthy. White color version with one flip case, one screen guard, two batteries(2000mAh) in the package.
THL W8+ info:
Rocking 5.0inch 1080*1920p FHD screen.
Android 4.2 os.
1GB Ram, 16GB Rom.
443ppi
R: 12.6M, F: 4.9M
W8+ Weakness:
Batteries drain fast.
Not OGS screen.
443ppi seems great, but the screen is FHD, the phone is still not that sensitive like i expect.
lag.. when playing huge games.
videos here:
Videos...where?
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Daisyjp said:
Got a THL W8+ from fastcardtech. 258.00 usd with free shipping.
a little expensive, but somehow worthy. White color version with one flip case, one screen guard, two batteries(2000mAh) in the package.
THL W8+ info:
Rocking 5.0inch 1080*1920p FHD screen.
Android 4.2 os.
1GB Ram, 16GB Rom.
443ppi
R: 12.6M, F: 4.9M
W8+ Weakness:
Batteries drain fast.
Not OGS screen.
443ppi seems great, but the screen is FHD, the phone is still not that sensitive like i expect.
lag.. when playing huge games.
videos here:
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fastcardtech got everything but a good reputation
hehe
titooo7 said:
fastcardtech got everything but a good reputation
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yes, i agree.
how's the battery life?
some one mad a thread of graphic lacking in this phone while playing hd games here already. I think a custom rom will solve d problem am I right ?
Battery?
xviralx said:
how's the battery life?
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Chinese phones...
minus 500 to 1000 mAh, you will get the true info.
battery: fake.
phone: fake.
so do not expect too much.
anyway, this one can last about 10hours by openning wifi and playing games. standby one day may not be a problem.
hope can help you.
games?
sakthibruce said:
some one mad a thread of graphic lacking in this phone while playing hd games here already. I think a custom rom will solve d problem am I right ?
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i do not know what you meant, actually chinese phones now uses the most powerful 544 GPU， however still a little lagged when playing 3d games like hunter 3, but smooth if the game is smaller like Front line.
Hot when playing games.
Me too i want to buy w8+
How about daily use (browsing & cals) ?
Someone crying about blocking screen and butons when call are made.
Has led.notification ?
Thanks
sow .. nobody have this phone ? how is ?
I bought one and it's on its way, used express shipping so should be soon. but i had a question, is it possible to put samsung OS on it
Turnad0z said:
I bought one and it's on its way, used express shipping so should be soon. but i had a question, is it possible to put samsung OS on it
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it's not possible .... only a custom rom based on stock rom or if somehow code&compile cm 10.1 ....
aoprea said:
it's not possible .... only a custom rom based on stock rom or if somehow code&compile cm 10.1 ....
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ok thanks, i suppose no one has a custom rom based on samsung but I guess there isn't enough demand for it.
When my W8+ arrives i will do a proper hands-on or a unboxing, atleast.
can't get GPS working on thl w8+...
did someone get it working?
aoprea said:
Me too i want to buy w8+
How about daily use (browsing & cals) ?
Someone crying about blocking screen and butons when call are made.
Has led.notification ?
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I have the THL w8+ with GravityMod2. It works just fine.. It has led notification. The battery works for me, lasted about 12 hours with 5 hours of music play, an hour of gaming [just poker], and hour of calling and about 3 hours on the whatsapp/browser
Plus your get a additonal battery
The best part is the in-ear earphones which have flat cable.. so no more tangling..
Rudraa said:
I have the THL w8+ with GravityMod2. It works just fine.. It has led notification. The battery works for me, lasted about 12 hours with 5 hours of music play, an hour of gaming [just poker], and hour of calling and about 3 hours on the whatsapp/browser
Plus your get a additonal battery
The best part is the in-ear earphones which have flat cable.. so no more tangling..
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you have the w8+ 1920?without the GravityMod2,with original rom works fine?
what about the GPS work fine?
the wi-fi also?
I use the original rom and it works just fine! i only did a brush update to fix a small bug and that's it.
the wi-fi works like a charm but i didn't have the time to use the GPS.
Argykaras said:
you have the w8+ 1920?without the GravityMod2,with original rom works fine?
what about the GPS work fine?
the wi-fi also?
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Thl w8+ imei?
HELP!!
I have a THL W8 + with GM3rom do not know how but lost IMEI on your phone,
Sims will now no longer work, I have tried various programs like (MTK droid tools) restore a backup by using various guides also going Mode Engineer / connectivity / CDS information / information radio trying to manually enter IMEI underneath the phone and all but USELESS I ask for a help from an expert like potri do? there some way to put the IMEI via CWM?
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HELP!!
I have a THL W8 + with GM3rom do not know how but lost IMEI on your phone,
Sims will now no longer work, I have tried various programs like (MTK droid tools) restore a backup by using various guides also going Mode Engineer / connectivity / CDS information / information radio trying to manually enter IMEI underneath the phone and all but USELESS I ask for a help from an expert like potri do? there some way to put the IMEI via CWM?
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Maybe I'm wrong but the IMEI isn't something you can loose on your phone. It must be written deep inside the memory of your phone.
Try typing *#06# on your phone.
If this doesn't work it must be on the bill you got with your phone. If it isn't try to go in a shop of your carrier, they must have it stored somewhere. If it's not, maybe the person who sold you the phone did it illegally.
Hey guys, I just received my Pipo M6 today so I thought I'd offer my experience so far. Keep in mind that I am coming from an iPad mini and my daily driver is a HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10.1.
Build Quality:
TBH, I was hoping for something a little better after reading some user reviews. It's still quite good overall but there's just a few too many seams and the edges are a little rough at certain points. Nothing major but it just feels like a made and designed in China product. It doesn't bother me so much though since I won't notice it after putting it in a case.
I was glad to find that underneath the temporary screen protector which comes with all new products these days, there was another one underneath it which means you won't need to bother with putting on one yourself.
Screen:
VERY pretty. Viewing angles are good and colours really pop. Brightness level is amazing and will surely be sufficient even if you are in the dessert. In terms of resolution, you can set it to HD mode or Normal which requires a restart. I couldn't really notice any differences although I might if I had another one sitting side by side. Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
User Interface:
As you may know, you have the choice of using the standard Jelly Bean interface or the special Pipo interface which makes everything look a bit like Windows 8. I chose to go with the latter. Everything is quite smooth although perhaps not quite as flawless as my iPad mini but with Android devices, I've come to accept that.
I really like where they're going with this interface although there are some definite rough edges. It comes preloaded with 5 home screens labeled: Home, Media, Apps, Office and Web. These can not be removed. Within each, there are some widgets which corresponds to their respective headings. These widgets cannot be changed or removed. The other objects that cannot be changed or removed are the boxes ala Windows 8 which are predetermined to be either editable shortcuts or folders. I find this a bit annoying because sometimes I don't need so many folders and would prefer to just launch an app immediately when I tap it. You can add more homescreens and name them how you like but you can't change their colour or the types of boxes they contain. Overall, it all looks very nice but needs to be more customisable.
Performance:
I haven't had a chance to install any games yet but so far the "feel" of the device seems very solid. I do have a problem when trying to install N.O.V.A. 3, i can't even find it in the Google Play Store. After finding it through Google, it says that my device cannot support it. I don't get it. My One X can install this game and it's far below the specs of the M6. If anyone can let me know why this is, I can install it and let you know how it performs.
Battery Life:
When I opened the box, it was already switched on and showed that it had been running on battery for about 28 hours (so it was probably opened by customs since it was posted out a week ago). Since then I've had the screen almost constantly on doing various things for the last 5 hours and it still has 40% juice left. Pretty good then!
Conclusion:
Overall, I'm quite happy. It has some small niggles but then it was pretty cheap. For the people who are worried that the RK3188 can't handle a retina display, I think you can relax. Everything runs smoothly enough. Plus, if you really prefer a lower resolution, you can change it in the settings to conserve battery life and increase performance. It beats having an M7, M8 or M9 purely because they have much smaller batteries. The 2x5000 mAh battery in the M6 was designed for the retina screen so if you use the normal resolution, it would wipe the competition clean.
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Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
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This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.
Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
Sent from my JB 4.2.2 powered HTC Desire using Tapatalk
pulsar124 said:
This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.
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Ahh i see, that makes sense. I never owned a device without physical or capacitive buttons so it didn't occur to me.
andbroe said:
Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
Sent from my JB 4.2.2 powered HTC Desire using Tapatalk
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Yeah I think it's also not bad. I wouldn't really call them gaps, but the seam that runs around the edge of the device definitely doesn't look consistent on my machine; some parts look a tiny fraction wider than the rest. Maybe you had better luck. bBy the way, do you have any idea why the Google Play Store won't let me download N.O.V.A. 3? I'm sure the specs are enough since even my HTC One X running a Tegra 3 can download it. Only thing I can think off is that the internal storage doesn't have enough space but then shouldn't it download into the NAND Flash? I have plenty of space there.
UPDATE: Been spending some more time with it. I am liking it less now that it's frozen up twice (both times requiring a hard reset by sticking a little needle in the small hole next to the back camera - didn't lose anything though). Also, I have a few apps that force the tablet into a vertical orientation and every time, they would force it into an upside down position (where the power button would be on the bottom as well as the front camera). I guess this indicates that the tablet's natural position is contrary to its physical design. I find this quite annoying to be honest and should hopefully be easily fixable with a firmware update. I hope they get on it! God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.
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God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
See you
andbroe said:
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
See you
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Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?
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Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?
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Another m6 user here also with a one x...
I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
Steve
5teve said:
Another m6 user here also with a one x...
I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
Steve
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Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?
I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.
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Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?
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On mine which is on the SDK2 firmware - there is a big difference with chrome and the stock browsers - chrome is massively laggy, freezes, stutters and is generally rubbish. Stock browser is fast and smooth. The only issue I have is not being able to scroll down on translated pages (htcmania) but change of orientation solves that..
regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
Steve
matnl said:
I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.
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Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
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regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
Steve
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Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.
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Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.
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No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
Thanks
Steve
5teve said:
No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
Thanks
Steve
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Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?
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Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?
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Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
Steve
5teve said:
Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
Steve
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I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.
matnl said:
I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.
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Alright, my M6 froze again today whilst using Pulse so I think I've had enough. I'm gonna try to flash it with a rom. A couple of questions first. How can I check which SDK I'm on? It says my Kernel version is 3.0.36+ from June 25th. Does that mean I'm on SDK2.0 already since it's the latest?
Anyways, I don't wanna bother anyone here with writing out a full instructional so can someone please just confirm that all I need to do is follow this guide: http://www.freak-tab.de/rrileypm/First Time User Guide_pr0_rev5.pdf Of course, instead of using the RileyROM 1.2, I will use the M6 4.2.2 #20 from http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 . Also, why are there two files with the same name there? One uploaded on the 13th and one on the 15th of July? Thanks alot guys!
i already posted this to other threads
i bought my pipo m6 a week ago.. so far so bad!.. first off, i got a dirt INSIDE the screen, i was forced to remove the screen guard to see if its not a dirt in between the screen and the screen guard. unfortunately its inside the screen so there's no way of removing it without opening the whole system.. 2nd, im experiencing lags and forced close, QUAD CORE? 2GB RAM? what the!! my friends dual core phone is much better! mine doesnt even have to many apps yet. 3rd, i tried to play 1080 movies, mp4, it lags and crashes at me. aside from all this disappointing experience PIPO luncher form time to time force closes. another worse experience is that i experience FREEZE UP. the whole system froze while browsing facebook, for 20 minutes, all hardware buttons, touchscreen are not responding. i was forced to reset it via the little whole at the back of the device....i already updated to the 6/26 firmware release... but still getting the same issues. battery was good YES. but performance was disappointing. NOT TO MENTION the other users who comment about the SPEAKER! GOD! speaker sucks! based on a video i watched it was loud! but my SONY NEO V is way better! i hope that there is a FIRMWARE FIX to all this! except ofcourse about the screen dirt.. i was expecting to much about the new processor (QUAD CORE, better the DUAL CORE, RIGHT???), the ram but was getting to much frustration. the only GREAT thing about this device is the RETINA SCREEN, not including the DIRT of course, the the BATTERY!
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i already posted this to other threads
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I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.
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I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.
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i hope so too. thanks
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i hope so too. thanks
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I just flashed the RileyROM 1.2. They were right, it really was very easy. I'm in the process of restoring everything. I'll report back with my impressions on the performance later.
i had purchased the oneplus one (india version 64gb variant CM11S) and received it on the 15th of dec'14. since the last 20 days i hav noticed a certain lag on my onepelus one while playing asphalt 8 inspite of 46 gb free storage...i ran an antutu benchmark v5.6 and to my surprise came a poor score of 29000 and also during the video played during the test it showed only 30fps.... i checked the core information & it always used to show core0=1036MHz /300 Mhz, core 1=0(stopped), core2=0(stopped), core3=1036MHz/300MHz i.e only 2 cores work inspite of activating the performance mode & havig snapdragon 801 (2.5Ghz*4)...i am really concerned...i asked a guy on fb and he said that my cores are probably underclocked and advised to factory reset tthe phone... but my xam will start in the near future and i dont want to get in the reset mess....guyz please help.....and do invite other to this chat...i want to have diff ideas.
The fact that you have 46gb free storage on your phone has absolutely no bearing on how smoothly a game will play, the only two real factors that would affect that are the RAM on the device and the CPU/GPU, storage is just that, only storage. It looks to me like your CPU profile isn't working correctly, and to be honest the best course of action is a factory reset. It might not be convenient for you right now but that's the way it is.
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Specifications:
VK6050S
Chipset
MTK6735 Double card double stay, double 4G, 4nuclear, android 5.1
Band
GSM:850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA:850/900/2100 FDD:800/1800/2100/2600(1/3/7/20)
Cortex
Cortex A53
Cores
Quad core
Size of chipset
28nm
OS
Google Android :5.1
cpu
1.0GHZ
GPU
Mali-T720
size
148*78*9.5mm
OTG
Yes
NFC
NO
Physical Memory size
2G+16G
LCD size
5.5'OGS
LCD Type
IPS
LCD Resolution
HD 1280*720
Type of TP
capacitive Touch Panel (G+F+F)
single/ multi touch
5-points Multi-touch
Camera Resolution (front)
5.0M
Camera Resolution (rear)
13.0M （ov)
BT 5.0\ FM
Yes
battery
6050MAH
Camera Flash LED
Support
WiFi Chipset
MT6735
WiFi (bands and supported protocol)
802.11b/g/n
BANDS
2G Network
GSM/GPRS/EDGE; Frequency:850/900/1800/1900MHz; Data Rates: GPRS/EDGE
3G Network(WCDMA)+TD
WCDMA:850/900/2100
4G Network
Standards：FDD:800/1800/2100/2600
GPRS/EDGE/ HSUPA/Transceiver
GPRS(Class12)/EDGE(Class 12)/ HSUPA+(21M/5.6Mbps)/Transceiver(MT6166v)
Bluetooth(Version)
MT6735(2.402GHZ-2.480GHZ)
FM
MT6735(87.5~108MHz)
GPS
MT6735(1.575GHz)
3D Sensors
All gravity induction
Proximity & Light:
Yes
E-Compass
N/A
Analog TV
N/A
Input and output
I/O Port
Micro USB Port*1 ;SIM Card* 2(W+G);TF Card Por;3.5mm Earphone Jack *1;TF Card Port*1pcs
Mic
Sensitive microphone(Buil-in)
Speaker
1pcs Speaker,
Button
VOL UP, VOL DN, Power
BATTERY
Capacity
6050mAh
Type
chargeable lithium polymer
Charge
Input：AC100-240V.50-60HZ， Output: 5V 2A Mirco 5pin
Standby time
1080hours
Using time
72hours
Charger time
2-3housrs(fast charge)
Operating temperature Range
-10 C to +40 C
Video
MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, H.263, H.264 ,RV , VP6/VP8 , Sorenson Spark ,SP/ASP GMC, XVID, BP/MP/HP, WMV7/8, WMV9/VC1 BP/MP/AP, AVS, JPEG/MJPEG
Audio
MP3,WMA,MP2,OGG,AAC,M4A,MA4,FLAC,APE,3GP,WAV
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Does anyone have any experience with vkworld phones?
I ask because I have ordered Ulefone Be Touch 2 three weeks ago and have many concerns about it, the biggest being cheating about the android version.
Since my phone is not yet shipped I was thinking to maybe cancel the order and buy this phone instead. There is a 2GB RAM version, the screen is 720p, it has no fingerprint sensor but the battery is supposedly extremely good (6050 mAh), it claims to have Android 5.1, both SIM slots are 4G-capable and the manufacturer seems to be more serious and established, at least that's the impression I've got.
Has anyone else on this forum ever had a phone from this company and if so, would you recommend it?
Thanks.
I have one on order (the S model). Looking forward to it. It looks very similar to the Bluboo x550 and the iNew L4. I have experience with both.
First thoughts
Ok. I have mine now and have been using it for the last 24 hours.
Background: I have the following chinese phone:
Ecoo E04 3GB
iOcean M6752
Ulefone Be Touch 2
In addition to the above, my teenage son has had the Bluboo X550 which had to be sent back as the sd card reader stopped working. This was replaced with the iNew L4 and the sd card reader just started to display intermittent problems.
The VK6050s looks to be a very similar build to the Bluboo and the iNew with a few cosmetic differences. The configuration of the Sim cards and the SD card are exactly the same - as is the look of the battery albeit the VK6050s claims to be 6050mah, the Bluboo 5300mah and the iNew 5000mah. The vk6050s has 2GB memory compared with the iNew which only has 1GB of ram.
The vk6050s has partitioned it's internal storage into 2 whereas both the other phones make all of the storage available in a single partition.
I have been very impressed with the phone so far. The display is excellent and coming from 5.5" displays with 1080p my eyes can not tell the difference between them and the 720p display on the vk6050s. The ROM is smooth and appears fast (probably helped by the 2GB memory).
I have been able to root the phone. I used the same trick that I had on the Bluboo and the iNew: use KingRoot apk and then use the Replace_Kinguser_with_SuperSU-v1.8 script.
The phone also accepts my 128gb external SD with no issues.
The really good news is that the firmware for the phone can be downloaded from vkworld's website so you can have a play with root etc and still know that you can always go back to the original firmware if it all goes wrong. iNew have yet to publish their firmware.
I have also been able to successfully install the TWRP recovery that was made for the Bluboo (and is available over at needrom.com). It has let me make a backup (although I have not yet tried restoring it). It also let me flash the viper4android zip.
I do worry that it may end up suffering from the same SD card issues that the other 2 phones have. This issue appeared after a week or so. I am keeping everything crossed.
I hope this may be useful to somebody.
i think i will buy this phone insteat of bluboo x550
could anyone test its battery if its real 6050 mah or its just around 5000 like Bluebo ???
i want to buy innos d6000 but its a bit expensive. i only care about battery. if vk6050s has the same battery performance i could buy it.
10 days later and it is still going strong. This is my favourite china phone so far and I have had
Ecoo E04
iOcean M6752
Bluboo X550
iNew L4
Mlais MX Base
Ulefone Be Touch 2
Can you post some camera samples?
Is it any good?
8mpx interpolated to 13mpx?
stapo101 said:
10 days later and it is still going strong. This is my favourite china phone so far and I have had
Ecoo E04
iOcean M6752
Bluboo X550
iNew L4
Mlais MX Base
Ulefone Be Touch 2
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Nice
From video reviews, seems like enabling the gesture features warns that it will consume more batteries
Does it really effect the battery life by much?
I'm interested too.
suoko said:
Can you post some camera samples?
Is it any good?
8mpx interpolated to 13mpx?
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I will try and take some decent photo samples and post. I have no way of telling whether the camera is interpolated or not. I googled and couldn't find anything that tells you how to identify the sensor. If you know of how to do this then I am happy to try. I know it is an Omnivison which is pretty typical for this price point. from my experience so far I am very happy with the results.
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ferbulous said:
Nice
From video reviews, seems like enabling the gesture features warns that it will consume more batteries
Does it really effect the battery life by much?
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I don't bother using the gestures. I can tell that they work as I have tested them. You've got to think that it will have an effect on the battery as I imagine there is a wakelock at play when using gestures so that the phone is looking out for them, but to be honest, isn't that the beauty of having a phone with a massive battery? You don't have to worry so much about all of the little tweaks like switching off notifications, location settings etc just to squeeze every last bit of power out of it. You can just use th ephone as it' smeant to be used without over worrying about whether it's going to last you the day or not.
stapo101 said:
I will try and take some decent photo samples and post. I have no way of telling whether the camera is interpolated or not. I googled and couldn't find anything that tells you how to identify the sensor. If you know of how to do this then I am happy to try. I know it is an Omnivison which is pretty typical for this price point. from my experience so far I am very happy with the results.
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I don't bother using the gestures. I can tell that they work as I have tested them. You've got to think that it will have an effect on the battery as I imagine there is a wakelock at play when using gestures so that the phone is looking out for them, but to be honest, isn't that the beauty of having a phone with a massive battery? You don't have to worry so much about all of the little tweaks like switching off notifications, location settings etc just to squeeze every last bit of power out of it. You can just use th ephone as it' smeant to be used without over worrying about whether it's going to last you the day or not.
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I'm aware of that, just interested to know if it has some minimal effect to the battery life.
On oneplus one I only enabled gesture option for double to wake and camera while the rest are disabled and battery life is still nice with no noticeable battery drain.
stapo101 said:
I have also been able to successfully install the TWRP recovery that was made for the Bluboo (and is available over at needrom.com). It has let me make a backup (although I have not yet tried restoring it). It also let me flash the viper4android zip.
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Hi, were you able to use xposed tweaks on this?
Since you'll need a custom recovery like TWRP to flash the xposed zip file.
Couldn't find an exposed that would install. The 5.1 is actually a 32bit version even though the soc is 64bit.
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Couldn't find an exposed that would install. The 5.1 is actually a 32bit version even though the soc is 64bit.
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I wonder how does that work.
So the problem is similar to bluboo x550 then with some users reporting flashing xposed file resulting in bootloop?
Based on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/super-alpha-posted-permission-xposed-t3072979
Should we flash the arm zip file or arm64?
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Couldn't find an exposed that would install. The 5.1 is actually a 32bit version even though the soc is 64bit.
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No /system/lib64 folder or /system/bin/linker64??
Is this ROM uploaded any where?
Anyway - zip to resize userdata/intsd can be found here - if someone with a VK6050S wants to test.
HypoTurtle said:
No /system/lib64 folder or /system/bin/linker64??
Is this ROM uploaded any where?
Anyway - zip to resize userdata/intsd can be found here - if someone with a VK6050S wants to test.
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Correct. Neither of those folders or files are present.
Funnily enough I used that same zip to resize the internal partition on another phone the other day and it worked very well. I'm not keen to test it out on the vk6050s yet as I have everything set up as I want it and don't 100% trust the twrp recovery as it was made for the bluboo. I know it works for flashing a zip and have made a backup but have not tried to restore yet.
Also, from what I understand, once the internal partition. Has been resized then you can't do OTA updates. I would rather wait a while to see whether there are any to come.
Besides, I still have over 1gb of internal storage left AND under storage settings it let's you state where you would like new apps to be installed: internal storage, phone storage or SD card.
On a side note, the 2gb of RAM is showing as having 1.3gb still free (with no apps open other than the chrome). Compare this with the ulefone be touch 2 wherr approx 1.9 GB of the 3gb RAM was taken up by the operating system alone. This give you some indication of how well the firmware has been optimised.
stapo101 said:
Correct. Neither of those folders or files are present.
Funnily enough I used that same zip to resize the internal partition on another phone the other day and it worked very well. I'm not keen to test it out on the vk6050s yet as I have everything set up as I want it and don't 100% trust the twrp recovery as it was made for the bluboo. I know it works for flashing a zip and have made a backup but have not tried to restore yet.
Also, from what I understand, once the internal partition. Has been resized then you can't do OTA updates. I would rather wait a while to see whether there are any to come.
Besides, I still have over 1gb of internal storage left AND under storage settings it let's you state where you would like new apps to be installed: internal storage, phone storage or SD card.
On a side note, the 2gb of RAM is showing as having 1.3gb still free (with no apps open other than the chrome). Compare this with the ulefone be touch 2 wherr approx 1.9 GB of the 3gb RAM was taken up by the operating system alone. This give you some indication of how well the firmware has been optimised.
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Not a problem - I had forgotten about OTA's I'm not 100% sure how they work in terms of the stock recovery but I think the scatter.txt in the OTA's are important - changing this to the new layout should let them install..
Are you sure you can choose where apps are installed directly? It's not just the /sdcard (Android/data; Android/obb etc.) that you are choosing.
Yea 1.3GB free out of 2GB is what I get with 5.0 ROMs (64bit) - Ulefone must be doing something wierd to be usig 1.9GB (swap/zram perhaps??)
HypoTurtle said:
No /system/lib64 folder or /system/bin/linker64??
Is this ROM uploaded any where?
Anyway - zip to resize userdata/intsd can be found here - if someone with a VK6050S wants to test.
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HypoTurtle said:
Not a problem - I had forgotten about OTA's I'm not 100% sure how they work in terms of the stock recovery but I think the scatter.txt in the OTA's are important - changing this to the new layout should let them install..
Are you sure you can choose where apps are installed directly? It's not just the /sdcard (Android/data; Android/obb etc.) that you are choosing.
Yea 1.3GB free out of 2GB is what I get with 5.0 ROMs (64bit) - Ulefone must be doing something wierd to be usig 1.9GB (swap/zram perhaps??)
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See attached screenshot...
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See attached screenshot...
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Yea, I have that as well - on mine that is just the /sdcard - I still need to manually move apps to external sdcard.
If it is automatic to external then I think typically it's installed to internal first then moved to external so you might find that when you get to ~400MB free internal space you won't be able to install anything else.
stapo101 said:
10 days later and it is still going strong. This is my favourite china phone so far and I have had
Ecoo E04
iOcean M6752
Bluboo X550
iNew L4
Mlais MX Base
Ulefone Be Touch 2
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hello, i'm alex from italy. i ordered the bluboo.... did i make the wrong choice?
i compared other phones...but i thought the bluboo own the best features..... for example ulefone be touch 2 has BUG BEZELS and higher price, inew only 1gb...
The only one competitor was the VK6050s ( S variant with 2gb) but i thought that the claimed 6000mah was fake and similar to bluboo 5300mah, bluboo calims that they used a BRANDED battery from "amprius". so i would trust more in the true 5300mah instead the 6000mah not sure to be true.
just to say... i've found a new phone, the NEXODUS ZEN which has 2gb ram, 6 inch hd display........ it's really low priced but it uses MTK6589T and android 4.2 but maybe it's more STABLE than a new release 5.1 still not fully known by chinese manufacturer.......
1. INTRODUCTION
This phone doesn't really have any developers at the moment and I struggled and spent a lot of time to hack it like I wanted. Here's what I have so far.
1.1 Root
You can choose to use either KingUser or SuperSU, but you must initially root using iRoot therefore KingUser will be installed.
1.2 Custom Recovery
Haven't succeeded in building a custom recovery that works yet
1.3 Xposed Framework
Because I have miserably failed at building a custom recovery, I could not install Xposed framework, however I found a way to do this without custom recovery!! by using an app called Flashfire, from the developer Chainfire (maker of SuperSU).
2. FULL TUTORIAL
2.1 Before you begin
PLEASE READ THIS, TO HELP ME IMPROVE THIS PROJECT!!
I am not sure whether this phone has a notification light or not, there is an LED (called breathing light by the manufacturer), that lights up when charging. There are also settings to activate/deactivate the LED for missed calls, SMS and emails. However I'm not sure it works for every app. I DID see the LED flashing when I got some LINE messages maybe 5% of the time, but I have no idea why I sometimes see it, sometimes don't. It's possible that either:
1- The phone uses the LED only for SMS, missed calls and emails
2- The phone has a notification LED but one of the many root applications/Xposed modules is confusing it.
3- The phone doesn't have a notification LED and one of the many root applications/modules is trying to make it work, but isn't always successful.
So if you read this, could you please make some notification tests before doing anything else and post back your observations here? This way if the LED lights up for Facebook, LINE, WhatsApp, etc, we can try to figure out what app is blocking/enabling the LED for the benefit of all.
And then of course, there's the blablabla that I'm not responsible if your phone explodes after following this guide, but I don't see how you could possibly mess it up with such a simple tutorial.
2.2 Root the phone
Download iRoot from the downloads section and install it on your Windows PC
Turn on USB debugging in the settings->developer options, if you don't see developer options:
Go in Settings->About phone
Tap Build number 5 times until a message tells you that you are now a developer
Turn on unknown sources in settings->security
Plug your phone in your computer and make sure you allow access to your computer when the popup opens on your phone and tick the always box
Run iRoot and click on the ROOT button, wait for the app do finish everything (phone will reboot multiple times, and it might fail the first time, so you would have to repeat this process multiple times until a success message shows up)
2.3 Replace Kingroot by SuperSU (optional, but needed to flash Xposed)
In the the download section, get Supersume.apk and install on your phone
Launch Supersume, allow root access and tap the big blue button.
Wait for the application to finish everything, then clean up any bloatware application iRoot might have installed. You can also remove Supersume, won't be needed ever again.
Finally, you will probably have to open SuperSU and update the binaries with the "normal" mode (as we don't have a custom recovery yet anyways).
2.4 Install the Xposed Framework (SuperSU required for this, KingUser will not work)
I suspect that there are 2 different versions of this phone (hence the title of the thread), so it's possible that you might have to install the 32bits version of Xposed or the 64bits, depending on which version you have. Check section 3 below for more information.
Install the latest version of FlashFire
Install the Xposed installer on your phone
Save the latest Xposed framework on your sdcard:
This one if your phone is 32bits (The one I used for Vphone)
This one if your phone is 64bits
Open FlashFire and allow root access
Tap the red (+) button at the bottom
Tap Flash ZIP or OTA
Select the file you just downloaded
Make sure that Auto-mount is unchecked then tap the check-mark at the top right
Tap the EverRoot and make sure nothing is selected there, then click the check-mark again
Tap the lightning button at the bottom. You will get a black screen then it will start flashing, so don't panic
3. PHONE INFORMATION AND SIDENOTES
3.1 Introduction
This phone seems to have 2 variations
The NO.1 X2i that comes in black or yellow
The Vphone X3 that comes in black or Orange.
I ordered directly from NO.1 by emailing their representative, asked for the yellow one but they sent me the orange Vphone instead it seems. This is when I learned about the existence of the Vphone variation I'm not sure if they tried to rip me off because the Vphone is not as good as the NO.1, or whatever reason they sent me the wrong phone. Other than the color, I could see from Google Image search that they look exactly the same, except for the logo on the back that either says NO.1 or Vphone (see in the what I mean in the screenshots section, sorry can't put them here, link expires after a few minutes).
3.2 Thoughts/Opinions about the phone
I switched to that phone from the Doogee DG700 because I wanted an IP68 solid waterproof phone with Android 5.1 that eliminates most of the 5.0 bugs Google introduced. However I have to say I was a bit disappointed by both Lollipop 5.1 and the company that sold me the phone (whether it was their fault or just bad luck.. I don't know).
3.2.1 What I like about the phone:
So far, "seems" to be waterproof, but I'm a bit afraid to try to submerge it completely for a long period of time, after my incident with the Doogee DG700
I like the "rubbery" surface underneath and on the sides, so it's doesn't slip if you put it on the side or stays in place if you leave it on the dashboard of your car (to some extent).
So far, it seems quite responsive and fast
Some people might disagree, but I like how the back-cover is solidly fixed with screws, not with flimsy snaps like most phones
Because of the rubbery case, the camera lens, screen and the rest of the phone are not getting scratched or visually worn off like other phones because whatever position it's put on a surface, it will always be the rubbery surface that will be in contact., not the screen, camera lens, sides.
The rubber covers for the headphone and USB plugs makes you feel like even radiations won't get inside. It's nice to see this, compared to the crappy plastic protectors on the DG700 that would always fall off and felt sluggish when you opened it to plug your headphones.
3.2.2 What I don't like about the phone:
The headphone jack hole is narrow, so only the headphones provided fit in the hole. I thought I had to buy an adapter but luckily after carving the sides of my headphone plug with a knife, it could fit in the phone.
It is big, very big. I measured 5.5 inches before buying it but was still surprised by its size. Some people call it a phablet on internet (phone + tablet). I am tall and have large hands so it's not so bad, but a friend of mine bought the same one and her friends are always laughing at her because it's huge in her hands hahaha!
It seems like the phone doesn't support fast charge (to be confirmed). I know that slow charge is better for the battery, but it was nice to have my DG700 charge 50% in 30 minutes when I was in a hurry.
No backlight on the hardware buttons. I don't even understand how come Mediatek still makes chips that don't include this basic functionality. It is so extremely annoying in the dark and it really pisses me off. El Cheapo
The notification LED (breathing light) Seems to be malfunctioning 95% of the time (to be confirmed with other testers). See section 2.1 Before you begin for more info and please report your results if you have this phone.
It might be Android 5.1's fault, but the battery does drain quickly. 10%-15% overnight with the screen off. It's still new so I'm trying to figure out which wakelock is causing this to try and stop it, but so far no love. I tried Xposed module Smart Network but it keeps turning on the wifi automatically for no reason. DS Battery Saver is outdated and all other apps that restrict the radio when the screen is off don't turn on the radio periodically to check for new messages. On my previous phones, I would lose 0% or 1% overnight while the screen was off with smaller batteries. This is the phone with the largest battery I ever had and it drains the quickest. My friend reported the same, he battery doesn't last long (unrooted phone). Who's fault is it? Fake 4500mAh battery? Android 5.1's power management? A specific app? I'm still working on it.
The area for the screen on the phone and the actual AMOLED screen are misaligned.. sign of bad manufacturing. So this means that if you look perfectly perpendicularly at your phone, you see a black bar at the bottom, and a little bit of the top is missing, hidden under the plastic. So you must tilt it backwards a little bit. This is not so bad and is possibly only bad luck with my phone, but is worth noting and highly unprofessional.
3.3 X2i vs X3 Waterproofing differences
The NO.1 .1 X2i claims to be IP68 on its website while the Vphone X3 claims to be IP67 on its website. Yet the Vphone X3 still has the IP68 markings on the back cover... Sorry if I offend Chinese readers, but this is typical Chinese misinformation, crappy websites and attention to details that frustrate us. There is no way to verify this and the representative I talked to was not aware of that and could not answer my questions, which to ns I'm afraid of testing to submerge my phone in water.
3.4 X2i vs X3 Processor differences
The NO.1 .1 X2i claims to have a 64bits 1.3GHz processor on its website while the Vphone X3 claims to have a 32bits 1GHz processor on its website. Once again, I have no idea if that's a mistake or the 2 versions have different processors.
I have verified on the Vphone X3 specs with 3 different apps: AnTuTu Benchmark, CPU-Z and CPU X and they all give out 1GHz as the clock speed, however CPU-Z says the architecture is MT6735 while AnTuTu Benchmark/CPU X both specify MT6735P and finally the scatter file from Vphone's official website says: "platform: MT6735M" :silly: AnTuTu Benchmark also informs that the processor is 64bits, but that Android 32bits is installed... (more mindfuck) and to add to this, I had to install the arm32 Xposed framework on a supposedly arm64 processor.
So now, we might have 3 different architectures: MT6735, MT6735P, MT6735M of 32bits OR 64bits respectively on Android 32bits OR 64bits. Info about these processors is scarce, vague and non-uniform so I can't really tell the difference. I wrote to Mediatek, hopefully they will answer. According to one website, MT6735P is better because it has integrated graphics... true? not true?
Anyways, here's more potentially true/false info on the MT6735M and MT6735P that say 1GHz clock and don't specify 64bits (so usually means 32bits), plus the specifications of the MT6735 on the official MediaTek website.
By the way, this website even advertises the phone as being a 1.3GHz Octa Core!!!
So anyways, I included screenshots of my tests in the screenshots section of the project. It would be nice if anyone with the NO.1 X2i could test as well and send me the screenshots or let me know so we can see the difference.
3.5 Stock Firmware
The NO.1 website doesn't have the stock firmware to download as I'm writing this, but the Vphone has the stock firmware (although it is not the latest build that it came shipped with). The firmware from the Vphone website is called "NO1", so I'm inclined to think it would work with both phones. I have tried flashing this firmware on my phone, but nothing happened.. this could be due however to the fact that the MTK drivers don't work properly on Windows 10. Anyhow, you can find in the downloads section a care package that contains the original archive from Vphone that contains the firmware, SP Flash Tool 5.1352.01, the drivers + the latest build I found on 4PDA + a folder containing custom recoveries I have tried to start with to make my own (all failed).
4. REFERENCES
4.1 Original post where I found the Supersume.apk instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67792321&postcount=9
4.2 Original post where I found the Xposed instructions
http://www.andromods.com/apps-mod/easy-install-lollipop-xposed-framework-without-twrp-cwm-recovery.html
4.3 Xposed thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
4.4 Flashfire thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433
4.5 Original 4PDA thread where I found the latest original firmware
No idea where this guy took it, but it's the exact same build that my Vphone came with
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=742407&view=findpost&p=50532543
XDA:DevDB Information
No.1 X2i / vPhone X3 Workshop (SuperSU root + Xposed framework Lollipop 5.1), Device Specific App for all devices (see above for details)
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NaturalBornCamper said:
Well damn.... All the instructions I put here have disappeared GRRR!!
Will add these back when I'm not angry anymore, or if someone asks for them
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Can you repost the TUT please?!
I've been looking for an IP67/68 phone for some time now. The Blackview BV6000 was the contender, but alas, no Notification LED, just as the Doogee T5 dropped out of the lineup for the same hardware issue.
Doogee claims the T5 is an upgrade from the Titans2 DG700 that HAS a Notification LED,,,,,, stupid, really stupid miss on the hardware development (the DG700 I dropped due to your rant about the overall build quality and other claims regarding the same issues).
How can both manufacture's miss such a small, yet vital item as the Notification LED?, I'm not an under 25 that constantly walks about day and night with my phone in my hand, I'm a mature, home owner that has other interests than FB and Twit. I put my phone down to charge, or go on to my other hobbies or interests, I may look at it every 30 min or so to see if there has been a call/text/push. Both 5" phones have respectable hardware (CPU/GPU/RAM/ROM), but missed the LED on board? ... WTF!
So now I'm considering this phone, and would like to read the TUT if you repost it please.
Also, please tell me if this phone has the Notification LED, its visible on some of the stock pictures, and some not, its the final build I'm interested in.
AND ... have you located any parts for this item? On AliExpress a buyer had the item shipped to him with the SIM/SD back cover missing one of the 2 tabs to hold it in place. I really don't want to go through the BS of a full return for a small user replaceable item, or screen.
TY .... :highfive:
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Can you repost the TUT please?!
I've been looking for an IP67/68 phone for some time now. The Blackview BV6000 was the contender, but alas, no Notification LED, just as the Doogee T5 dropped out of the lineup for the same hardware issue.
Doogee claims the T5 is an upgrade from the Titans2 DG700 that HAS a Notification LED,,,,,, stupid, really stupid miss on the hardware development (the DG700 I dropped due to your rant about the overall build quality and other claims regarding the same issues).
How can both manufacture's miss such a small, yet vital item as the Notification LED?, I'm not an under 25 that constantly walks about day and night with my phone in my hand, I'm a mature, home owner that has other interests than FB and Twit. I put my phone down to charge, or go on to my other hobbies or interests, I may look at it every 30 min or so to see if there has been a call/text/push. Both 5" phones have respectable hardware (CPU/GPU/RAM/ROM), but missed the LED on board? ... WTF!
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I hear you friend! I like to have a LED for the exact same reasons! And if you are waiting for a message while talking to a friend, it is so impolite to check your phone every minute instead of just saying "excuse me" when the LED finally pops up and you can check your important message!
Anyways, I can't answer for sure about the notification LED (they call it "breathing light" on the Vphone), as I already messed up my phone by trying to flash custom recoveries that failed, installing tons of root applications and Xposed modules so now it's misbehaving . Anyways I completely re-wrote the entire project post with TONS of new info for you to make your decision, be sure to check the section about the notification LED to understand what I mean by "not being able to answer your question properly". I also wrote down other info/concerns/things I like or don't. I will update as I get more info, an answer from Mediatek (if I get any), and feedback from other people who have the same phone as so far, it seems like I'm the only one that has it.
UnableToResetOldProfile said:
So now I'm considering this phone, and would like to read the TUT if you repost it please.
AND ... have you located any parts for this item? On AliExpress a buyer had the item shipped to him with the SIM/SD back cover missing one of the 2 tabs to hold it in place. I really don't want to go through the BS of a full return for a small user replaceable item, or screen.
TY .... :highfive:
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That's pretty funny hahaha! I hadn't seen that post before buying this phone but I wouldn't be too concerned as this is probably not specifically that brand's fault as it is EVERY SINGLE DAMN Chinese product. They say something that isn't true because they have bad English, because they aren't competent enough or just plainly lie... and the quality is never the same (You just have to trust your luck that your product isn't a bad one, that was made by a trainee intern after his wife cheated on him and divorced). That's the risk of buying "made in China", lower cost at the risk of getting one of "these" bad ones.
A professional ukulele maker once told me that every time you buy a ukulele "made in China", you might have an excellent one that sounds better than most, or have a crappy one that sounds like Celine Dion on PCP. So basically you buy 5 times the same ukulele and keep the best
Anyways, nope I haven't located any parts as I didn't check, didn't need any replacement with my phone yet. However when I got pissed off at the company for sending me the Vphone X3 instead of the NO.1 X2i, they proposed me to send it back and get a refund (which I didn't I'm done with the trouble). So I'm pretty sure that this guy can just ask the rep, or the seller to get a new one. Chinese often have ****ty English and bad product representation, but they usually know that the damage you can potentially do by posting bad reviews about their product will cost them more than sending a replacement
NaturalBornCamper said:
"sounds like Celine Dion on PCP"
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Aaaaah Ha Ha Ha ..... Cat getting run over by a car, then backed over for good luck .....
Only a non 'Québécois' Canadian will really understand this ....
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> 3.4 X2i vs X3 Processor differences <
The actual proof my be in opening up the phone and looking at the processor for an identification.
They may have messed with the chips firmware and flashed incorrect information if they customized it, this may cause the different software to identify the chip differently, and the SOC to behave erratically due to poor programing.
This trickery happens with cheep mSD Cards all the time (I use h2testw for capacity verification) as they flash 32gb on a 8gb card.
I managed to grab the No1.X2i's ROM as a pre-purchase base as this phone is still a consideration.
The ROM is 'NO.1 X3 Firmware 3.21-1'....(V0.1 D160307_img)
What is the current version?....(V13 D160524_img)
Given enough time, I answer my own questions....:silly:
So, Devicespecifications lists the 2 phone as identical:
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/d39a75047
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So it appears that other people have the same wonky results as you, this person tested with CPUZ and AIDA64, it shows a MT6735/6735P respectively, but both results show that it is Revision r0p4, he posted a review on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/D2toE3o0C2M
Also, the it appears that only missed calls/sms and alarm/charging/low battery is supported. There should be no notification for Play Store app updates or app push notifications .... or eMails?!
What exactly is the Alarm Notification?, is this your wake up alarm clock alarm?
I'm not sure we can trust the devicespecifications.com website however, as I'm sure you already know
They seem to have differences which are probably due to missing information, like for the IP68 certifications differences and the missing Gorilla Glass from the X2i.. They also seem to say that the processor is 1.3GHz but not a single app marked the processor as 1.3GHz. By the way, MediaTek never answered as expected. And another sideline, I found another app that lists the chipset as MT6735M, so we now have apps that give all 3 versions of the chipset woot! No way to know which is real.
On a sidenote, it might be my fault with the constant messing up and flashing prior to successful rooting and Xpposed installation, but I have battery problems. At around 35-40%, the battery goes instantly to 15% then starts going down 1% per 15 seconds until it reaches 0% and shuts down. It happened 2 times now so I'm re-calibrating my battery (which makes sense with all the flashing and restoring previously saved system partitions) and will see if the problem persists, but it's possible I got a typical case of the Chinese-crappy manufacturing gamble. Shipped with a faulty battery, faulty battery connection, etc.
For the BreathLight, yes I had seen these settings.. however I DID get the flashing light for BOTH Facebook Messenger and LINE applications. So it is not only for SMS, emails, missed calls. I think it is for every notifications but I messed it up somehow with an root app or Xposed module as the LED really works randomly and hasn't worked yet for a missed call or SMS (but I had only 2 since I got the phone, nobody uses regular SMS or calls in Taiwan, everything is internet-based.
And I have no idea what is the "alarm" setting for the BeathLight.. It would make no sense if it was for the Alarm Clock since the screen turns on anyways.. So I'm wondering if it's for "Android Alarms", such as "wakelocks", which would mean toggling this on/off would activate the notifications for all other apps. This way, you could have the LED light up only for SMS and missed calls but not for other notifications (alarms). Does that make sense to you?
I'm thinking that the 'Alarm Notification' is just that, when you have an alarm set, be it a count down timer or alarm clock, the LED flash's?! Possibly a low battery alert as well?!
IDK.......(?)
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Did you notice that CPU-Z lists the Architecture as 3x Arm Cortex-A53, and AIDA64 lists the Architecture as 4x Arm Cortex-A53 ...(?)
I'm using AIDA64 from now on.....LOL!
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I'm thinking that the 'Alarm Notification' is just that, when you have an alarm set, be it a count down timer or alarm clock, the LED flash's?! Possibly a low battery alert as well?!
IDK.......(?)
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Did you notice that CPU-Z lists the Architecture as 3x Arm Cortex-A53, and AIDA64 lists the Architecture as 4x Arm Cortex-A53 ...(?)
I'm using AIDA64 from now on.....LOL!
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An LED for an alarm would be pretty useless hahaha! If they did that, I really don't see the point.
Yeah, I noticed for CPU-Z... I uninstalled all the apps to figure out what's in my phone hehhee
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An LED for an alarm would be pretty useless hahaha! If they did that, I really don't see the point.
Yeah, I noticed for CPU-Z... I uninstalled all the apps to figure out what's in my phone hehhee
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Actually I would like an alarm LED, it would indicate, with the screen off, that my alarm was set for the next morning. It would also be nice if they used a RGB LED, then you could allocate Blue, or any other color for different notifications.
Nobody else has chimed in regarding this phone, you must be the only person that's bought it?! You must feel special to be the only kid on the block with one........:laugh:
Whats the biggest mSD card that worked in the phone ... 64, 128 ... ?
NOT 4500mAH battery!
THIS DOES NOT HAVE A 4500mAh BATTERY
THIS HAS A 3200mAh BATTERY
Also, it does not have a compass!?
I found this thread at 4PDA: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=742407&st=40
Post #49 & 51
This makes the KENXINDA W8 a much better choice, it has the same size battery, but it has the compass, back-lit keys, quad-core, 128gb expandable mSDHD-XC, better gpu, better RAM but alas, a crappy camera, just adequate.
Same price range.
This phone is garbage.....Don't waist your money.
I can verify that the battery is only 3200 mAh. No1/vPhone has come out and lied about the capacity.
This phone uses a 19mm headphone jack, not the standard 14mm.
This phone uses a 10mm mUSB jack, not the standard 6mm.
This phone is not waterproof without the plugs seated. The connections are not injection molded into the frame , the water has direct access to the inside without them in place. This makes the phone useless with headphones attached in a wet environment.
I can not use any of my headphones or USB charging/data cables.
The 19mm mUSB's are not available locally for me and not available from the manufacturer, or the reseller. I can't find the 19mm mUSB cables on eBay/AliExpress/Banggood or China Express (others as well).
The phone was shipped with 2 invalid IMEI numbers.
SIM 1: 356666666666666
SIM 2: 356666666666668
These generic numbers are used on phones that have their legitimate IMEI's taken for phones that are stolen, or, used on cheep counterfeit phones that do not have legitimate IMEI's registered to the database, or, are used on phones that are stolen.
These particular 'generic' numbers are BLACK LISTED as a 'LOST OR STOLEN PHONE' here in Canada.
This 'New' phone will not connect to any service provider here in Canada.
The last phone I sent back to China for a refund, the seller abandoned the item, he refused it and it sat undelivered, there was never a refund issued as the item was not delivered(AliExpress reseller).
To have it returned to me would cost me another 50 bucks....190+50+50=300 bucks (+/-).
I will get screwed out of my $190.00 ether way, if I keep it or send it back.
Sending it back will cost me another $50.00 on top of the $190 as well........
DO NOT BUY THIS BRAND OF PHONE (No1 is parent company).
The Kenzinda W8 or W9 appear to be a better item, but there is little or no support from the manufacturer for this item as well.
Great research and thanks for sharing NaturalBornCamper!!!
After doing some research myself, I also have cool stuff to add.
Here is TWRP 3.0.2 attached, downloaded from https://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=742407&st=200
It wasn't easy to get through the 4pda.ru registration captcha, I had to learn some russian.
I installed it and flashed supersu.zip from it, so I was finally able to get rid of the noisy boot animation, adding debug.sf.nobootanimation=1 at the end of /system/build.prop
I just made a nandroid backup to a microsd card, and a "Phone tools" backup, so I can recover my imei if something bad happens in one of my flashing adventures.
Short howto: Install vcom drivers and download SP_Flash_Tool from https://spflashtool.com/
Uncompress TWRP-3.0.2-Vphone-X3.zip
Run flash tool.exe, and load the scatter file included in TWRP/MT6735M_Android_scatter.txt
This will load the partition schema, and autoselect the twrp recovery.img for download. Just click on Download icon on top, start your phone and when you see OK on the screen you are done.