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One Woot! user got theirs today, and it's 3389. I am going to assume that they are probably all 3389, then - most likely all imaged the same.
What a relief! I will update my mod posts, accordingly. Btw, 3389 isn't even the latest "official" firmware, you are one revision behind. 3389 came out in December, I believe.
Did they get an OTA, or was that out of the box, and no OTA after that?
Jim
The firmware upgrades are not OTA correct?
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3389 OOTB. This one user just ran the updater and it wants to update them to 3588 (which is expected).
3389 was a late December update, btw - that was the one they released just before Christmas.
itsernst said:
The firmware upgrades are not OTA correct?
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The stock updates are all OTA - they don't supply offline updates.
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3389 OOTB. This one user just ran the updater and it wants to update them to 3588 (which is expected).
3389 was a late December update, btw - that was the one they released just before Christmas.
The stock updates are all OTA - they don't supply offline updates.
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Yep this is the exact version my tablet came in ootb almost 2 weeks ago!!! Ota up to 3588
So what is the call to action, do the OTA update? Then proceed with rooting?
vegeetz said:
So what is the call to action, do the OTA update? Then proceed with rooting?
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Advice here.
vegeetz said:
So what is the call to action, do the OTA update? Then proceed with rooting?
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If it were me, I would do the following:
- Charge if fully first. It will take at least an hour to do that, but it's recommended. This thing gets very wonky when the battery is low.
- Do a data wipe. User data corruption is basically the first thing any modder will ask you to correct, if you have problems. And the early builds definitely required them. The problem here is that, if you have Flash and the Kindle apps installed, they will be deleted, so keep that in mind.
I'm assuming that you won't care, given that you are here and you want the Market, anyway.
- Update it to 3588, via OTA. I would recommend it, as it gives you the most stable baseline. 3588 has been out since January and it's a solid stock ROM. It also preps you for their "1.2" path, if Viewsonic releases it.
- Pick a modded ROM. The fun begins.
Optional but recommended: Install and learn adb and nvflash. There are a few guides floating around here on those. adb is essentially a remote shell (like a "telnet") and you can do some interesting things with it. It's not enabled on the device by default, but most modded ROMS will enable it on the device, for you. nvflash is a low level format mode and it's basically your backout plan in case you mod the device and mess it up, badly (a "soft brick").
Roebeet,
As you can see from my sig, I'm still on stock 3452. Never got an OTA notification.
If 3588 is a transitional version, that means if I'm stuck on 3452, then I won't be able to upgrade past 3588, ever?
So, seeing that I'm not getting any OTA notifications, do you think that I should download and flash to 3588 manually now?
If so, I have CWM .8 installed as recovery right now, so I should be able to use that CWM to flash the 3588 update.zip, right?
Final question: If I do that, will that wipe out all my apps, etc.?
Thanks,
Jim
P.s. Does the 3588 flash wipe out CWM?
3452 was one one of those leaked UAT's that was never released (If I recall correctly - remember, some of these leaked to users via OTA - we could never figure out their release process, exactly).
If you never got an OTA update to 3588, I would recommend forcing yourself to 3588 to get a solid baseline. Basically, you'd take the 3588 in the stock ROM post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842000), rename it to "update.zip" and create a recovery\command file as mentioned there (or take one from the 1.0.0 homebrew zip).
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3452 was one one of those leaked UAT's that was never released (If I recall correctly - remember, some of these leaked to users via OTA - we could never figure out their release process, exactly).
If you never got an OTA update to 3588, I would recommend forcing yourself to 3588 to get a solid baseline. Basically, you'd take the 3588 in the stock ROM post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842000), rename it to "update.zip" and create a recovery\command file as mentioned there (or take one from the 1.0.0 homebrew zip).
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I don't think the update.zip/recovery folder method would work for me, since as mentioned I have CWM .8 installed?
Also per earlier questions, does 3588 wipe out CWM?
Jim
jimcpl said:
I don't think the update.zip/recovery folder method would work for me, since as mentioned I have CWM .8 installed?
Also per earlier questions, does 3588 wipe out CWM?
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Yes, it should wipe out cwm. You can use clockworkmod between 3452 and 3588, as they are both "1.1" firmwares. Just be careful with anything newer than 3588 as we just don't know what it will look like yet.
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Yes, it should wipe out cwm. You can use clockworkmod between 3452 and 3588, as they are both "1.1" firmwares. Just be careful with anything newer than 3588 as we just don't know what it will look like yet.
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Thanks. That's what I thought. I have the 3588 update.zip from back in January, so I'll give that a shot, using CWM.
Jim
He guys i got a ques ...i have rooted my atrix 2...now if we get an ota update i cannot do it because i have rooted and maybe some files have been modified by sulercharger script or some other app....so it i clear my user data from the settings-privacy then will it remove my root and make my phone like stock new...i have never installed any custom rom
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He guys i got a ques ...i have rooted my atrix 2...now if we get an ota update i cannot do it because i have rooted and maybe some files have been modified by sulercharger script or some other app....so it i clear my user data from the settings-privacy then will it remove my root and make my phone like stock new...i have never installed any custom rom
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Wiping won't unroot I don't think, but root should not affect the update. You will lose it when you update, but there will probably be a way we can make some changes before the update to avoid that.
The supercharger script might be an issue but probably not. It should have an option to unsupercharge anyways, but you should be fine without it.
The update will check to make sure you have not deleted any of the bloat that is not removable without root. so if you have done that your best bet would be to fxz back to stock if it will not update.
Nopes....didnt remove any bloatware....ok so wont that brick my phone as uts rooted...i read somwhere in xda forum that an atrix 2 was soft bricked because the guy rooted
Normally if you are rooted and download and install an OTA update you will lose root. I always have. However, this handy free app has been tested and it says it will preserve your root if you OTA update. Check it out here: OTA Rootkeeper
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Normally if you are rooted and download and install an OTA update you will lose root. I always have. However, this handy free app has been tested and it says it will preserve your root if you OTA update. Check it out here: OTA Rootkeeper
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that won't work for the ICS update. at least with the leaked international ones. No it won't brick you, you will just loose your root. If you wan't the updated to stay rooted, don't do it right away and give us a few days to figure out how to keep it.
Even if you did softbrick you could almost certainly fxz back to stock.
Thanx alot sir..... i wont update until an official update or till we get a fully working ics custom....no hurries
I just applied the OTA update (VRLG7) and it seems to have broken root. When running the superuser.apk and attempting to update the binary, I get the following...
"Gaining root access... fail!"
Using the terminal app shows that /system/xbin/su has the "-rwxr-xr-x" permissions, but when I try to execute it, I get a "Permission Denied", but the usual popup that the superuser.apk app shows for granting superuser permissions. I checked the superuser.apk, and the terminal and superuser apps are allowed to have root.
Has anybody run across this? Do I have to re-root it? From what I can remember, rooting it just puts the superuser.apk and su binary in the proper locations....but if they already exist, how would re-rooting it fix it?
Thanks!
Yeah there's a few other threads on this and people were able to re-root and unlock.
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just run the rootdebugfs program and reroot...no biggie!
Thanks for the responses. I left my usb cable at home today, so I will have to wait. I did the update at work, and I'm just kind of stuck for the time being.
Hopefully the reroot will work out for me and life will be good again!!
Thanks!
I am running the ( VRLG7 ) modem since I downloaded it 3 days ago and have not lost root or unlock, Maybe you missed it but one of the #1 rules is to not except OTA updates from Verizon because they will break your root and your unlock and possible brick your phone
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I am running the ( VRLG7 ) modem since I downloaded it 3 days ago and have not lost root or unlock, Maybe you missed it but one of the #1 rules is to not except OTA updates from Verizon because they will break your root and your unlock and possible brick your phone
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you wont lose root by flashing a modem...he flashed the entire g7 rom update. this breaks root, no big deal, just need to reroot and unlock. this latest g7 ota update is safe.
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I am running the ( VRLG7 ) modem since I downloaded it 3 days ago and have not lost root or unlock, Maybe you missed it but one of the #1 rules is to not except OTA updates from Verizon because they will break your root and your unlock and possible brick your phone
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I stuck to the #1 rule, but everybody here and everwhere said it was safe and you can still root and unlock the bootloader. I figured that since everybody said it was safe, why not.
Like others said, I re-rooted it and it was fine. Last time, I used odin, but this time, used casual. It worked well, but after the root, I went into superuser and did an 'update'. The phone rebooted into the 'lock' screen for a minute, rebooted, and things came up fine. Strange, but it worked. Hopefully, it's not a sign.
You guys notice any better signal resulst from updating to the newest radio?
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You guys notice any better signal resulst from updating to the newest radio?
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After updating to the new modem, I do not really see any improvement to my signal strength.
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After updating to the new modem, I do not really see any improvement to my signal strength.
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What about speed? anything new there?
My phone restarted to clockwork and asked me if I wanted to install it. I took a chance and said yes and after holding my breath, clockwork asked me it looks like root might have been lost.. Fix? I said sure and sure enough after rebooting I had the latest update and I was still rooted. It did say update failed but I still have the latest firmware and there is no newest update.
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droidstyle said:
you wont lose root by flashing a modem...he flashed the entire g7 rom update. this breaks root, no big deal, just need to reroot and unlock. this latest g7 ota update is safe.
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I tried to root with this option without any luck after update, is there anything special that need to be done for it to work.... It runs and completes and says it should have root but no SU installed and device reports normal..
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My phone restarted to clockwork and asked me if I wanted to install it. I took a chance and said yes and after holding my breath, clockwork asked me it looks like root might have been lost.. Fix? I said sure and sure enough after rebooting I had the latest update and I was still rooted. It did say update failed but I still have the latest firmware and there is no newest update.
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What version of Clockwork do you use?
Thanks
Ok so heres my first question?........... Is there any possible way of gaining root access through linux for my android ? ....Like running certain commands to do so......I know u have to change permissions and make changes to the android file system......And was wondering since linux uses root in terminals and so on and so forth would it work to access root in linux and maybe use a file manager to open your android system files in linux to make these changes so u may root. .. Instead of waiting for a DEV to create a method or script that will work ... Isnt there a way we can gain this back without waiting for an actual script to release . I rely on my root for a vast majority of my apps and i am lost without it . I know it may be more complex and diffucult for some people but to gain root access back this way ... But it would be great.
I have a working linux set up on my comp already with working adb /sdk installed ..... If anybody can help me with rooting my phone it would be very much appreciated. Im not new to this at all im very familiar with linux and how to use it. i basically need help with the rooting process and what to do when it comes to that.
I do not have an unlocked bootloader if that makes any difference.
Took 9.30.1 OTA and lost root.
As far as i know there is no script/method to root for the new OTA 9.30.1 update.
Tryed rooting already with Linux but my file system wont allow anything to be written to it.. Its Read Only File System. I think it has to be Read/Write
I really hope there is a root script/method released soon if this way isnt possible
Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you
No. Unless an exploit is found, you are out of luck.
Sent from my Droid RAZR HD under an Eclipse.
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No. Unless an exploit is found, you are out of luck.
Sent from my Droid RAZR HD under an Eclipse.
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Do you have any idea what the progress lioks like for an exploit coming out soon for this update?
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Do you have any idea what the progress lioks like for an exploit coming out soon for this update?
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I doubt there will be another exploit. This phone is a year old now and most devs are focusing on custom ROMs.
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Do you have any idea what the progress lioks like for an exploit coming out soon for this update?
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Mostly likely none. Because at this point 95% of people know to protect root before taking an ota. Or just don't take it.
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My phone is the not-unlockable one and locked.
I happend to click yes when this update question came. After realizing what was happening, I set my phone to flight mode, and the update downloading is now paused. Is there anyway to cancel this downloading/update process?
I have installed safestrape and backup my stock ROM before this. The worst is that I restore the backup and the update question will be prompted again, right?
Or is there other way to stop the update downloading in progress?
Another question, if root is lost through the OTA update, can I restore the backup through Safestrape and get root again? Or is everything gone?
xknobi said:
My phone is the not-unlockable one and locked.
I happend to click yes when this update question came. After realizing what was happening, I set my phone to flight mode, and the update downloading is now paused. Is there anyway to cancel this downloading/update process?
I have installed safestrape and backup my stock ROM before this. The worst is that I restore the backup and the update question will be prompted again, right?
Or is there other way to stop the update downloading in progress?
Another question, if root is lost through the OTA update, can I restore the backup through Safestrape and get root again? Or is everything gone?
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Once root is lost after the ota has been fully applied, the backup will do you no good as there is a new kernel applied.
As for it being paused, I believe you should be okay. Just because you started the download doesn't mean it's been applied. Freeze the updater apk and reboot. I believe that will cancel the download and with the frozen updater, you won't get bothered again.
You could apply the update if you save root with voodoo root keep but if you ever have to reimage your phone, you will lose root permanently. I'd just hold off and wait and see if an exploit is ever found.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
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Once root is lost after the ota has been fully applied, the backup will do you no good as there is a new kernel applied.
As for it being paused, I believe you should be okay. Just because you started the download doesn't mean it's been applied. Freeze the updater apk and reboot. I believe that will cancel the download and with the frozen updater, you won't get bothered again.
You could apply the update if you save root with voodoo root keep but if you ever have to reimage your phone, you will lose root permanently. I'd just hold off and wait and see if an exploit is ever found.
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Thanks for the info. I have just restored the backup stock rom and all is good. Installed Root Keeper anyway.
Anyone working on a root exploit for 9.30.1
So is anyone working on an exploit to root this update?? I just don't want to have to keep SBF'ing my Razr Maxx HD back to older versions and reconfiguring all my stuff. For what ever reason, I could not get OTA's. I was rooted(motochopper) and used superuser and voodoo. Protected my root, temp unrooted, downloaded the update, but then it would fail on install. I even tried flashing back to the stock recovery and it failed. So just to see what the 9.30 did, I installed it through Droid Razr HD Utility 1.34...of course I lost root, can't put a custom recovery on it, but my phone seems to run pretty good for a stock rom. So, I'm just wondering.
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Mostly likely none. Because at this point 95% of people know to protect root before taking an ota. Or just don't take it.
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I had root with the 9.30.1 update. I backed up root with OTA RootKeeper but my phone was acting up so i factory reset it and all went to hell...!!! I protected everything and backed up hoping that would do the trick but unfortunately it didnt save the root like it should have now i sit I regret ever resetting it thats for sure. It was risky on my part playing with the reset option knowing there was no exploit out yet and i payed the price
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So is anyone working on an exploit to root this update?? I just don't want to have to keep SBF'ing my Razr Maxx HD back to older versions and reconfiguring all my stuff. For what ever reason, I could not get OTA's. I was rooted(motochopper) and used superuser and voodoo. Protected my root, temp unrooted, downloaded the update, but then it would fail on install. I even tried flashing back to the stock recovery and it failed. So just to see what the 9.30 did, I installed it through Droid Razr HD Utility 1.34...of course I lost root, can't put a custom recovery on it, but my phone seems to run pretty good for a stock rom. So, I'm just wondering.
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I have a few guys looking into it for me im hoping to hear back soon with some good news
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So is anyone working on an exploit to root this update?? I just don't want to have to keep SBF'ing my Razr Maxx HD back to older versions and reconfiguring all my stuff. For what ever reason, I could not get OTA's. I was rooted(motochopper) and used superuser and voodoo. Protected my root, temp unrooted, downloaded the update, but then it would fail on install. I even tried flashing back to the stock recovery and it failed. So just to see what the 9.30 did, I installed it through Droid Razr HD Utility 1.34...of course I lost root, can't put a custom recovery on it, but my phone seems to run pretty good for a stock rom. So, I'm just wondering.
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im assuming your bootloader is unlocked?
if so, search for a flash-able zip of SU. you can root any build, problem solved.
I know our RAZR HD's are old, but there's nothing better out there. At this point, I'm willing to pay cash money for anyone able to find a new root exploit for this dumb 9.30 update. I took all the precautionary steps and have an unlocked phone, yet for some reason as soon as the update applied I lost root. It happened during the last ota and I got lucky that the warranty covered me. Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty. So once again, please find a root exploit and I'll pay you. I dont want to get rid of my razr. Thanks yall
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I know our RAZR HD's are old, but there's nothing better out there. At this point, I'm willing to pay cash money for anyone able to find a new root exploit for this dumb 9.30 update. I took all the precautionary steps and have an unlocked phone, yet for some reason as soon as the update applied I lost root. It happened during the last ota and I got lucky that the warranty covered me. Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty. So once again, please find a root exploit and I'll pay you. I dont want to get rid of my razr. Thanks yall
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there is no need for a new exploit if you have an unlocked bootloader.
search for a flash-able SU zip or search razr forum for the rooting unlocked bootloader thread.
problem solved, cash payments preferred
bweN diorD said:
there is no need for a new exploit if you have an unlocked bootloader.
search for a flash-able SU zip or search razr forum for the rooting unlocked bootloader thread.
problem solved, cash payments preferred
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I've tried every su time there is in here and other sites. They fail every time. I've tried recovery through twrp and cwm and they both fail. As a matter of fact since I took the update neither one of those will work now either. I'll keep trying new stuff until I succeed or brick this phone. All other devices that are currently available can't hold a flame to the RAZR.
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I've tried every su time there is in here and other sites. They fail every time. I've tried recovery through twrp and cwm and they both fail. As a matter of fact since I took the update neither one of those will work now either. I'll keep trying new stuff until I succeed or brick this phone. All other devices that are currently available can't hold a flame to the RAZR.
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Then are you sure you have an unlocked boot loader? If not, then you are hosed. We're just going by the fact that you posted " Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty".
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Then are you sure you have an unlocked boot loader? If not, then you are hosed. We're just going by the fact that you posted " Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty".
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I get the "warning, boot loader unlocked" message every time I power up. Used *#*#4636#*#* and checked that device shows root. I took all the precautionary steps before installing the ota, and I was having problems that both 9.20 and 9.30 fixed. Was running eclipse as a ROM before all this went screwy lewy
tried using motochopper (no winning)
All boxers are checked, however when I get the true ending to check my SU, it gives me some bogus message about needing to update SU, however it says I have an HTC device, I'm very confused on this, and don't understand what it is even referring too.
Anyone know what I'm reading about here?
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I get the "warning, boot loader unlocked" message every time I power up. Used *#*#4636#*#* and checked that device shows root. I took all the precautionary steps before installing the ota, and I was having problems that both 9.20 and 9.30 fixed. Was running eclipse as a ROM before all this went screwy lewy
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http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php?/topic/20473-[How-To]UNIVERSAL-Recovery-and-Root-ANY-{Unlocked-Bootloader-XT926-&-XT907}-Easy! I have used this twice after I've taken an update from vzw... If if your phones not being recognized it could be your drivers or the cable
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AT&T recently released their update for the Moto X. I do not want to accept the update since there is no root for it available. Is there a way to stop this nag screen from constantly popping up?
I have rooted 4.4 phone.
Much thanks!
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redeuxx said:
AT&T recently released their update for the Moto X. I do not want to accept the update since there is no root for it available. Is there a way to stop this nag screen from constantly popping up?
I have rooted 4.4 phone.
Much thanks!
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I believe you can freeze Motorola OTA file in Titanium backup (if you have it) or rename the file? I did, but I'm still on 4.2.2
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I believe you can freeze Motorola OTA file in Titanium backup (if you have it) or rename the file? I did, but I'm still on 4.2.2
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That seems to have worked. Thanks!
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(in case others have this same question and find this thread...)
The file to rename manually is 3C_OTA.APK and is in either /system/app-priv or /system/app (You'll need to be rooted)
If the OTA Zip has downloaded your phone already, you might still get nagged. You'll have to erase the file from /Cache (you'll need to be rooted, or use fastboot erase cache command from PC.)