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Hey guys, I'm having a bit of trouble deciding what phone I should get.
I really like the HD2 as far as having the huge screen and it's definitely a big plus, however Windows Mobile and it's upcoming demise is a turn off. Now I know that there are people working on porting Android to the HD2, and that's something I'm really looking forward to.
The obvious alternative would be the EVO 4G, but as I'm from England, I'm never going to get one that works over here.
The other possible alternatives in my eyes are either take a hit on screen size and go for the Desire, or wait for the Droid X. My gripe with the Droid X is that Motorola is a huge turn off for me, I've had a LOT of bad experiences with Motorola products, and I just don't trust the company.
As I'm guessing some of you can tell by now, I pretty much want a HTC phone, as I'm not so keen on any other manufacturers apart from Nokia (who don't have the kind of phone I would like anyway)
So with all this said, would you either...
A) Get a HD2, use some of the amazing custom WM roms on here and wait until a fully working and full speed Android port is available?
B) Go for the Desire and take a hit on screen size, but gain all the advantages of Android?
OR
C) Wait for a while and see if something good appears around Christmas this year and make my purchase then?
Hope I haven't left anything out, budget doesn't come into it so much as I just want some ideas.
Thanks in advance.
If you are not in a rush and can wait till December wait!
If you hardly need it now go for leo definitely!
Yeah, it all depends on how long I can stand using this stupid Samsung Jet, without throwing it in the bin.
The thing with technology is that no matter how long you wait, a few months after that there'd probably be a better spec phone. So buy one when you need one. =)
Mokurex said:
The thing with technology is that no matter how long you wait, a few months after that there'd probably be a better spec phone. So buy one when you need one. =)
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Yeah, I realize that, I was more just intrigued as to whether there might be another big screen HTC phone on the horizon.
Read here
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Ooh, I'm VERY interested in that! Thanks for the link, any news on release date?
I stumbled upon my target store and decided why not; i want something better than my x10 Sony Ericsson. On their store computer I came through here also seeing all these amazing roms. However my question is, Will the EU One X-Roms be easily compatible with the AT&T version? Due to different hardware I wouldn't think it would take long to port between EU and AT&T's. But I have layed out my pre-order in store for it and I can pick it up sunday night *does a little dance*, But i'm a flash-a-holic so... If the roms won't be easily ported [if at all] I may go back and swap to the Atrix and get the little laptop-dock on it. I'd prefer the best I can get, And I really like the look of the One X. Not if It wont gain much activity fast on here right away though.
Maybe a att rom will be better than a eu rom...
Just wait and see to see what the devs cook up..
They're not cross compatible but I would imagine porting wouldn't be too hard.
Really, that impatient? lol
To answer your question, no, you can't use "EU" (International) ROMs on your LTE One X. As for how easy they will be to port, that depends on the dev doing the work!
But seriously, the LTE One X hasn't been officially released in the US yet, so not many people have it. On May 6th, the flood gates will open and we'll have plenty of ROMs. I'm sure you can make it without flashing until then
Well I would expect that there be little->no activity for the phone since it isn't out yet. But seeing as I got my main question answered; The next one probably has an easy-to-guess answer.. Is there going to be a lot of activity on it?
I'm assuming yes. I mean, my x10 still has dev's working hard at it. In the tech world, its falling behind. Yet they're still there. Plus all these replies in only a short amount of time tells me I'm not the only one who's interested in the phone . Only reason I suggested the Atrix 4G is simply, I need a cheapish laptop because my last one just gave out. Probably due to a liter of soda but that's besides the point... I saw the One X, The specs amazed me. I saw the Atrix, wasn't amazed. But the dock for it is what caught my attention. Thinking ahead however, It's probably a dumb idea to "downgrade" to another phone just because of an accessory for it. I'll probably stick with my pre-order for the One X, Simply due to the quick response from the community about this :b.
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Well I would expect that there be little->no activity for the phone since it isn't out yet. But seeing as I got my main question answered; The next one probably has an easy-to-guess answer.. Is there going to be a lot of activity on it?
I'm assuming yes. I mean, my x10 still has dev's working hard at it. In the tech world, its falling behind. Yet they're still there. Plus all these replies in only a short amount of time tells me I'm not the only one who's interested in the phone . Only reason I suggested the Atrix 4G is simply, I need a cheapish laptop because my last one just gave out. Probably due to a liter of soda but that's besides the point... I saw the One X, The specs amazed me. I saw the Atrix, wasn't amazed. But the dock for it is what caught my attention. Thinking ahead however, It's probably a dumb idea to "downgrade" to another phone just because of an accessory for it. I'll probably stick with my pre-order for the One X, Simply due to the quick response from the community about this :b.
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And there's your answer. Look how active this forum is, and the phone isn't even out in the US for another week lol
There will be a ton of buzz around this phone once it's actually out, you'll see.
This was a good idea (however fruitless it may turn out to be) that I stole from the Galaxy 7.7 forum.
Go to https://www.facebook.com/htcusa and simply post this:
Dear HTC,
Update the MyTouch 4G Slide to Android 4.0+!!!
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Honestly I don't think anyone would care whether it was ICS or Jelly Bean at this point, but the phone desperately needs an update to the stock ROM. Would be nice if we could get at least ICS with Sense 4!
Not gonna work
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way too late at this point
There might (just might) be an update coming from HTC at some point. One of the gov't agencies (can't remember if it was FTC or FCC) ruled against HTC last month in a major case. The result is that HTC will have to update a LOT of older phones in order to comply with the ruling. There were rumors that HTC had been working on an ICS update for our phone but ceased work due to budget issues. So, to comply with the gov't ruling, they might resume work on what they've done and release the update. Or, they could just release some lame-ass patch just to comply. But, regardless, there will probably be some sort of update coming from HTC/T-Mobile for this phone in the coming months.
EDIT: It was the FTC, here is the ruling: http://ftc.gov/opa/2013/02/htc.shtm
WangChung81 said:
This was a good idea (however fruitless it may turn out to be) that I stole from the Galaxy 7.7 forum.
Go to https://www.facebook.com/htcusa and simply post this:
Honestly I don't think anyone would care whether it was ICS or Jelly Bean at this point, but the phone desperately needs an update to the stock ROM. Would be nice if we could get at least ICS with Sense 4!
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Done; and answer.....from HTC USA
HTC USA Sorry, .... The MyTouch 4g Slide will not be upgraded to ICS.
maybe more post on their side will change something...((
P.S I'm very fu. angry because there is nothing good / new with slide keyb, and, despite the fact that this equipment has a good performance, they do not want to update it, but it does not give anything with slide. ahhhh!!!!!
HTC deserve all the spam for not updating this device. Its all their fault because they didn't market it as a high end device which it is. And also failed to release an international version. The DS is a great device and still deserves more from HTC
We ALL understand your frustrations. But I'm afraid this flagship has already sailed. This is really a Sensation with a slideout KB and look what they've done for it. But really the only thing that big companies like HTC pay any attention to is marketshare. You know....their own bottom line.
Do what you will but when the time comes, I'm taking my business elsewhere. When they finally figure out that people are sick of being taken in on a worthy $500 phone by sending it out with a big hole in the hull & they all know it's sinking they MAY rethink their business model. But until that happens I'd love to see them have to name the next "biggie" they put out the Titanic.
Maybe they will see then that THEY weren't sunk by an iceberg but by a little ole Ice Cream Sandwich. KWIM?
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We ALL understand your frustrations. But I'm afraid this flagship has already sailed. This is really a Sensation with a slideout KB and look what they've done for it. But really the only thing that big companies like HTC pay any attention to is marketshare. You know....their own bottom line.
Do what you will but when the time comes, I'm taking my business elsewhere. When they finally figure out that people are sick of being taken in on a worthy $500 phone by sending it out with a big hole in the hull & they all know it's sinking they MAY rethink their business model. But until that happens I'd love to see them have to name the next "biggie" they put out the Titanic.
Maybe they will see then that THEY weren't sunk by an iceberg but by a little ole Ice Cream Sandwich. KWIM?
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I'm definitely NOT buying HTC anymore. They suckered me in twice, on this phone and a Flyer tablet. Never again. And I think a lot of people feel the same way, HTC is sinking, their sales are in the toilet, nobody is buying their stuff.
!!11111
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I'm definitely NOT buying HTC anymore. They suckered me in twice, on this phone and a Flyer tablet. Never again. And I think a lot of people feel the same way, HTC is sinking, their sales are in the toilet, nobody is buying their stuff.
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I'm definitely in agreement here, and it seems that a lot of us share the same feelings ever since HTC and Tmo decided to pretend our phone never happened. I only found out about the phone because it was an insurance replacement for my g2, which apparently wasn't available at all for replacement (refurb or not). I hadn't heard anything about the MT4GS, and the phone had released about a week prior to my swap, which goes to show you how Tmo dropped the ball on marketing. I will say that it was a marked improvement over the g2 and that i've enjoyed my time with it for the most part. However, even bone stock I would get random soft reboots and other quirks that generally went away once I rooted and rom'd.
It wound up being my third HTC phone in a row, and probably my last for some time because of the way we got treated on this device. Not to mention their current lineup (minus DNA) is pretty meh. A friend has a One X that I've had some time on, which is a pretty cool phone mind you, but not that impressive. I guess I'm going to take business to Samsung for the next one, as they irk me the least out of the android OEMs these days. I'd jump on an N4, but the whole cloud thing doesn't go over too well when you don't have consistent 4g or wifi all the time. Unfortunately, New England's geography wreaks havoc on signal in a lot of places and reliance on cloud storage just isn't ideal. Locally stored files ftw.
At the time, the official excuse for our device not getting updated was something about user experience and not working out to expectations, but as we all know that is a load of bull, since the devs here have pulled out the stops in keeping the device up to date. Granted not everything works 100% on these roms, without any source we're doing pretty darn good in this corner and there are no complaints from me about their hard work. Members of this community (and beyond) have attempted to get HTC to budge to no avail... about a year ago. There's no hope at this point of any official anything. And that sucks.
As an aside, has anyone else noticed how visually similar our mysense and sense 4 are? I definitely remember seeing the sense 4 launcher when it first dropped on a few phones and thinking that it looked a lot like our stock one.
I tried not to wall of text but I can't help it. Sorry guys and gals.
I've been looking at the Sony phones. For many years, I never considered anything Sony (after their rootkit fiasco), but that was a long time ago and I do believe their corporate policies are not as draconian. For their Android phones, they're putting out some really nice hardware and they are UPDATING them regularly. Even some of their older stuff is getting updates to JB. And their build quality is markedly better than Samsung. The Nexus phones are probably my primary interest because I'm just tired of hoping for updates. But, I'll probably wait until the next Nexus as I'm just not blown over by the Nexus 4.
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I've been looking at the Sony phones. For many years, I never considered anything Sony (after their rootkit fiasco), but that was a long time ago and I do believe their corporate policies are not as draconian. For their Android phones, they're putting out some really nice hardware and they are UPDATING them regularly. Even some of their older stuff is getting updates to JB. And their build quality is markedly better than Samsung. The Nexus phones are probably my primary interest because I'm just tired of hoping for updates. But, I'll probably wait until the next Nexus as I'm just not blown over by the Nexus 4.
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With only chatter about what the next Nexus "might" be I'll stick with my Nexus 4. There is not.... Let me say that again while I still can...there is not a faster device out there. Yeah of course some have huge screens and huge 6k mah batteries but they still can't keep up.
I don't keep much on my phone so I rock the 8GB with zero issues.
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I've been looking at the Sony phones. For many years, I never considered anything Sony (after their rootkit fiasco), but that was a long time ago and I do believe their corporate policies are not as draconian. For their Android phones, they're putting out some really nice hardware and they are UPDATING them regularly. Even some of their older stuff is getting updates to JB. And their build quality is markedly better than Samsung. The Nexus phones are probably my primary interest because I'm just tired of hoping for updates. But, I'll probably wait until the next Nexus as I'm just not blown over by the Nexus 4.
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I'm looking at Sony phones too. Pretty sure I'm going to get my gf and I the Z/ZL (she's a klutz, so she needs the waterproofing :silly
If the leaks of the SG4 are real, it's just a huge honkin phone/mini Note 3. I don't WANT a giant screen held to my face, and when I want to watch a movie or do some power browsing I have a TABLET for that.
Opinions from different perspectives are most welcome but please mind your Ps and Qs.
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Where did you get this news? please share more details about this.
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Where did you get this news? please share more details about this.
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It is not news per se. And not meaning to be flip it is a simply a question brought on by the observation of facts as they present themselfs.
My 2 cents
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Opinions from different perspectives are most welcome but please mind your Ps and Qs.
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I don't think carriers are locking boot loaders to hinder development, in a strict sense. I believe they're doing it to force people to upgrade their devices more often, in order to gain any new innovations from OS upgrades. Take a look at the Samsung Infuse, a phone which was orphaned almost from the time of it's release. Thanks to a developer named Scott Hart, you can run kitkat 4.4 on it. If people hold on to their phones longer, profits go down.
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I don't think carriers are locking boot loaders to. hinder development, in a strict sense. I believe they're doing it to force people to upgrade their devices more often, in order to gain any new innovations from OS upgrades. Take a look at the Samsung Infuse, a phone which was orphaned almost from the time of it's release. Thanks to a developer named Scott Hart, you can run kitkat 4.4 on it. If people hold on to their phones longer, profits go down.
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I take your point and it's a good one. I do not know-for sure-the reasoning behind it just the result. Ironically, I do know that the majoritu of innovation-in my view-have come from xda members saving these carriers a lot of money in R&D. I remember loading CM on a tiny little phone a few years ago to get innvations that are now incorporated standard on most phones.
I would say it's interesting that I am continuously reminded what a small insignificant percentage xda members make up -- interestingly to argue diametrically opposed views.
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I take your point and it's a good one. I do not know-for sure-the reasoning behind it just the result. Ironically, I do know that the majoritu of innovation-in my view-have come from xda members saving these carriers a lot of money in R&D. I remember loading CM on a tiny little phone a few years ago to get innvations that are now incorporated standard on most phones.
I would say it's interesting that I am continuously reminded what a small insignificant percentage xda members make up -- interestingly to argue diametrically opposed views.
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@NumbrR7: I second your point. I think that really grates (angers) me that most of the "new" phones are mostly incremental updates (i.e. better camera, updated OS). On another note, Oppo (based in mainland China) is gaining a niche for themselves because, from what I understand and read, the OS is developer-friendly and comes factory unlocked out of the box. USA carriers won't let that happen -- oh the horror. <rolling eyes>
Again, I affirm your position on this, numbR7.
XDA rules!
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@NumbrR7: USA carriers won't let that happen -- oh the horror. <rolling eyes>
XDA rules!
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Corporate greed and capitalism. Having said that, I disagree, to some extent, with their line of thinking. I have the galaxy s, s2, s3, s4, s5 , and note3. I have had a custom Rom on every single device up until the s5 and the note. Rooting and updating to the latest OS only made me want the new hardware even more. But alas, I too think it might be fading. When it does, I think the opposite will happen, and I will hang on to my device longer. I am already thinking of going back to the s4 with Shostock on it, for my daily phone.
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Corporate greed and capitalism. Having said that, I disagree, to some extent, with their line of thinking. I have the galaxy s, s2, s3, s4, s5 , and note3. I have had a custom Rom on every single device up until the s5 and the note. Rooting and updating to the latest OS only made me want the new hardware even more. But alas, I too think it might be fading. When it does, I think the opposite will happen, and I will hang on to my device longer. I am already thinking of going back to the s4 with Shostock on it, for my daily phone.
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I don't exactly agree with your first sentence (but it's worth discussion on a different type forum). That said. Your point is otherwise very well taken. You may get a new feature (maybe a new fade) but lose everthing else (that the freedom of controlling your own device gives you) suddenly that extra megapixel or two doesn't seem worth $650. Yep I'm sure of it! I think you have a really good point. I know it's a tad different but I choose to stick with Hyperdrive 15 (4.3) to avoid the hassles with SS and 4.4. That is NOT to say that I am bad mouthing SS. To the contrary, it's saved my behind. Hows that for nice language? Lol
Scott's still going with the Infuse?! Good on him! I loved that little phone. If it weren't for the problems with the video camera, I'd still be using it.
Well, this might rub some the wrong way but if all carriers started locking their bootloaders and forced buyers to choose based on hardware alone, I'd buy an iPhone. I love the little innovations that have come with an open Android - like Paranoid Android - but the hardware is usually underwhelming. The S4 has the screen going for it, but that's it. Apparently Apple will finally use larger screens on their iPhones so not much win for Samsung.
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Scott's still going with the Infuse?! Good on him! I loved that little phone. If it weren't for the problems with the video camera, I'd still be using it.
Well, this might rub some the wrong way but if all carriers started locking their bootloaders and forced buyers to choose based on hardware alone, I'd buy an iPhone. I love the little innovations that have come with an open Android - like Paranoid Android - but the hardware is usually underwhelming. The S4 has the screen going for it, but that's it. Apparently Apple will finally use larger screens on their iPhones so not much win for Samsung.
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I think you're right especially if the screen is bumped up. With the bootloader situation you already have an "i-droid" anyway. "Open source" no longer has meaning.
Hopefully this will accelerate the people looking at buying much cheaper phones that aren't locked to any specific carrier and also aren't boot locked. The effectiveness of upgrades is dimishing which should help push this shift and hopefully will ultimately keep these big phone manufacturers honest.
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Hopefully this will accelerate the people looking at buying much cheaper phones that aren't locked to any specific carrier and also aren't boot locked. The effectiveness of upgrades is dimishing which should help push this shift and hopefully will ultimately keep these big phone manufacturers honest.
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I've already looked into those "cheaper" phones. Most of them, right now, anyway, don't have LTE chipsets yet. In addition, 4G just rolled out in China (we get the new stuff first -- obviously). However, the cheaper phones are made and shipped factory unlocked. Some phones have a dual sim slots (i.e. one sim for personal, one sim for business).
I'm partnered up with a wholesaler and have access to everything he carries. The best part is that he doesn't "compete" with whom he partners up with -- bad for business, he says.
My .02 =)
as others have said it's just the way of big business in the 21st century. up until a week ago i had a 2 year old S2 which was running a 4.4.2 ROM (ressurection remix). if i hadnt been able to root and flash a ROM i'd have probably got myself a new phone long ago so locking down phones may get customers to upgrade more often (i know it would with me) as it is i bought my new phone outright and have gone payg to save myself some money and also to be able to upgrade as and when i like. i did look at some of the chinese phones (goophone being one) but wasnt sure of the root capabilities so decided to give it a miss.
i think even locked bootloaders will eventually be hacked. nothing is impossible. it's just down to when and how long we wait.
I took a brief reprieve from this forum, since there wasn't any groundbreaking progress made (and by "groundbreaking", I mean exploited bootloader).
It looks as if that has remained unchanged? I've only had the S4 for a year now, but I am officially "over" Samsung devices. Very aesthetically pleasing, but hardly functional overall. Battery is crap on every Samsung device, and the only thing that ever helped me was either buying a 3rd party with larger capacity, and/or running a custom ROM/kernel combo that allows for both less consumption as well as rapid-charge.
I'm interested to see this new thing Google is going to unveil to replace the GPE phones. I have no issue paying full price for a device that I can do whatever I want with, and know that there will be a strong following for. Even if that following is only a certain, small niche of the overall market.
It's a shame that my fun with AOSP had to come to a screeching halt, I loved the simplicity and functionality of it.
I don't think carriers make much or any money from selling new hardware. They make their money from plans.
That said, I'm happy to be on 4.4.2 SlimRom. ☺
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I took a brief reprieve from this forum, since there wasn't any groundbreaking progress made (and by "groundbreaking", I mean exploited bootloader).
It looks as if that has remained unchanged? I've only had the S4 for a year now, but I am officially "over" Samsung devices. Very aesthetically pleasing, but hardly functional overall. Battery is crap on every Samsung device, and the only thing that ever helped me was either buying a 3rd party with larger capacity, and/or running a custom ROM/kernel combo that allows for both less consumption as well as rapid-charge.
I'm interested to see this new thing Google is going to unveil to replace the GPE phones. I have no issue paying full price for a device that I can do whatever I want with, and know that there will be a strong following for. Even if that following is only a certain, small niche of the overall market.
It's a shame that my fun with AOSP had to come to a screeching halt, I loved the simplicity and functionality of it.
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Well, even if I sold my i337, the battery life was honestly very good for me. There's the facts that maybe I don't use it heavily every day, but I turn GPS on only when I have to find a specific place I haven't been to before. GPS down - battery life up. 3G down, unless I need it - battery life up. Power saving mode - battery life up.
As for the Android Silver program, we all are curious to see how will this turn out.
Considering the pros and cons of immediately changing from Verizon M8 to a newer phone; e.g., M9, S6, S6 Edge, or LG G4, Loss of S-Off and Root is a serious concern with availability of the outstanding ROMS for the M8, and the ability to completely eliminate unwanted bloatware. Notwithstanding the Antutu performance specs for the S6 and S6 Edge, Samsung acknowledges significant Memory Leak issues in routine use of these devices, without constant initialized rebooting. Alternatively, the Verizon M8, running the CM 12.1 ROM with Android 5.1.1 yields typical non-initialized boot Antutu scores exceeding 48000, tweaked, which actually exceeds Antutu typical non initialized boot scores of the Samsung devices during continuous operation.
Until, S-OFF and Rooting become available for device optimization both in terms of ROM features and bloatware elimination; and until these newer devices catch up with Android 5.1.1 and solve the significant Memory Leak issues, remaining with the Verizon M8, for now, is very sensible.
I remember when android was new and every new phone had this instant gigantic dev community ahh those were the days...
In the beginning cutting edge new android phones weren't coming out once a month like now It was all but guaranteed your phone would get SOME kind of development and momentum. I'm staying with my m8 for some of the reasons you state too. Like the fact that its already had all this time for the roms and community around it to mature. Every release cycle it becomes more of a possibility you might pick the latest and greatest model, and the one or two highly skilled devs needed to get the phone to root/unlock/whatever never materialises and before long something else newer is out and...your stuck with the phone the way you bought it or get a new one!
Every time I go to look for a new phone it's becoming harder to decide and narrow it down to one when weighing all factors. Being a card carrying techie pretty much requires a device has a decent XDA community for it though.
I recently had my VZW M8 damaged quiet bad so i was looking into getting a new phone. And basically this comparing all the new stuff coming out/is out, nothing really seems all that safe of a bet when it comes to the respective XDA community of the device. Nothing picks up momentum like in the old day, rooting is even more of a hit or miss it seems. Really i'm almost feeling a side grade to a nexus 6 or something might be in order. As much as i love the m8 i'm really getting sick and tired of the metal body... I like plastic a whole lot more but i HATE the cheap plastic every samsung phone seems to have!
Long story short, upgrading is hard yo.
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I remember when android was new and every new phone had this instant gigantic dev community ahh those were the days...
In the beginning cutting edge new android phones weren't coming out once a month like now It was all but guaranteed your phone would get SOME kind of development and momentum. I'm staying with my m8 for some of the reasons you state too. Like the fact that its already had all this time for the roms and community around it to mature. Every release cycle it becomes more of a possibility you might pick the latest and greatest model, and the one or two highly skilled devs needed to get the phone to root/unlock/whatever never materialises and before long something else newer is out and...your stuck with the phone the way you bought it or get a new one!
Every time I go to look for a new phone it's becoming harder to decide and narrow it down to one when weighing all factors. Being a card carrying techie pretty much requires a device has a decent XDA community for it though.
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As you say, the collective community of the endless efforts to improve the M8 with extremely satisfying results, certainly outweighs the very short-lived glitz feeling of possessing one of these new devices.
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I recently had my VZW M8 damaged quiet bad so i was looking into getting a new phone. And basically this comparing all the new stuff coming out/is out, nothing really seems all that safe of a bet when it comes to the respective XDA community of the device. Nothing picks up momentum like in the old day, rooting is even more of a hit or miss it seems. Really i'm almost feeling a side grade to a nexus 6 or something might be in order. As much as i love the m8 i'm really getting sick and tired of the metal body... I like plastic a whole lot more but i HATE the cheap plastic every samsung phone seems to have!
Long story short, upgrading is hard yo.
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I agree 100%, upgrading is hard. I cannot bring myself to purchase one of these new Verizon devices now, completely devoid of the S-OFF, rooting, and developer community achievements.
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I agree 100%, upgrading is hard. I cannot bring myself to purchase one of these new Verizon devices now, completely devoid of the S-OFF, rooting, and developer community achievements.
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Lot of m9 users have gotten s-off already via Java card. It's not all bad. Sunshine will also get updated.
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Lot of m9 users have gotten s-off already via Java card. It's not all bad. Sunshine will also get updated.
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As you say, eventually all that we enjoy now with our M8 will be available with these new Verizon devices, and that is when many of us will not hesitate to change.
The m9 really doesn't look like much of an upgrade to me. I don't think it is worth the money, my m8 works great, I have s-off I didn't have to buy a java card to get, and plenty of ROMs to choose from. I'll be sticking with the m8. At least till I can get an m9 for cheap or the next flagship phone comes out from HTC.
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The m9 really doesn't look like much of an upgrade to me. I don't think it is worth the money, my m8 works great, I have s-off I didn't have to buy a java card to get, and plenty of ROMs to choose from. I'll be sticking with the m8. At least till I can get an m9 for cheap or the next flagship phone comes out from HTC.
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Absolutely, currently, taking all of the new devices into consideration, without the development of ROMs and easy ability to debloat, remaining with the M8 for now is a wise choice.
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Absolutely, currently, taking all of the new devices into consideration, without the development of ROMs and easy ability to debloat, remaining with the M8 for now is a wise choice.
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Just so we're straight the m9 already had a viper rom posted. We have @ΠΣΘ @andybones @Tigerstown @santod040 all with this device and working on dev. There's plenty happening in the last week or so...
5.1 is looking realllllly nice for the m9 also.
dottat said:
Just so we're straight the m9 already had a viper rom posted. We have @ΠΣΘ @andybones @Tigerstown @santod040 all with this device and working on dev. There's plenty happening in the last week or so...
5.1 is looking realllllly nice for the m9 also.
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Worth hundreds of dollars over m8?
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Worth hundreds of dollars over m8?
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Depends upon whether you want the latest hardware and the most firmware updates. True volte (I'm beginning to seriously doubt the m8 will get it knowing vzw). For the record, I don't buy subsidized phones ever. I'm happy with my m9 over my m8. Feels so much more premium. Heck it's got metal speaker grills instead of stickers finally.
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Depends upon whether you want the latest hardware and the most firmware updates. True volte (I'm beginning to seriously doubt the m8 will get it knowing vzw). For the record, I don't buy subsidized phones ever. I'm happy with my m9 over my m8. Feels so much more premium. Heck it's got metal speaker grills instead of stickers finally.
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That's kinda my point though I got hundreds invested in m8 is the m9 really worth it? For what a better camera and some better speaker grills?
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Just so we're straight the m9 already had a viper rom posted. We have @ΠΣΘ @andybones @Tigerstown @santod040 all with this device and working on dev. There's plenty happening in the last week or so...
5.1 is looking realllllly nice for the m9 also.
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And we currently have Cm 12.1 with 5.1.1 for the M8. I believe that until Samsung can solve its memory leak issues, changing immediately to a Verizon S6 or S6 Edge is more of a loss than a gain. More of a loss than a signifcant gain for changing immediately to the M9. The same for the LG G4 when available. And I say this, in large part, out of respect for the excellent work which you and your colleagues have perfected for the M8. Thank you for your tireless efforts in this regard.
One-Click Root Methods For Verizon S6 As An Incentive To Change From M8?
Even with the advent of the one-click root method for the Verizon S6 and perhaps S6 Edge, the unlockable bootloader prevails, making it currently impossible to install a TWRP recovery, which for me is not sufficient incentive to change, now, from my Verizon M8.