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I did some searching and couldn't find a thread that compared these two kernels, so I hope there isn't one out there...
I've been using Netarchy CFS 1.3.9 (and 1.3.8), which has worked extermely well for me. It works well with over/under clocking, undervolting, BLN, voodoo, etc.
BUT, I often see that mathkid's Matr1x kernel is also getting a lot of positive reviews and feedback. So I was wondering if anyone has tried both and has any useful comments about each of them compared (things like performace, battery life - you know, the usual )
Thanks.
+1 for netarchy
Lol I knew you would say that pat....
Honestly your gonna all different answers for everyone. I would suggest you flash one to start, give to 2-4 days on your phone and see how you like it. Check battery life, responsiveness, speed, etc etc. Then flash the next kernel and do the same thing. It takes 10 seconds to flash and you get first hand experience with both as opposed to taking someones own experience which may not be the same as yours
infernosoft said:
I did some searching and couldn't find a thread that compared these two kernels, so I hope there isn't one out there...
I've been using Netarchy CFS 1.3.9 (and 1.3.8), which has worked extermely well for me. It works well with over/under clocking, undervolting, BLN, voodoo, etc.
Thanks.
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You will get a lot of different replies because what works for one does not work for the other .. All kinds of roms are used, different model phones and even the same models will not behave the same .. But since you are so satisfied with Netarchy maybe you should remember this : If it is not broken , do not try to fix it !
really, youll have to try them out yourself. every phone is different, and reacts differently to each kernel. i only throw in that you should try trinity also, my phone likes it the best.
for me...trnity and matrix are the best...
netarchy I had got many reboot...with Oc or UV...
Matrix becasue he keeps FPS cap on
without cap 3d apps render slow
demo23019 said:
Matrix becasue he has FPS cap still
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Sorry, but what exactly does this mean?
I'm really very happy with my Nexus S 4G. It's unlocked and rooted, but otherwise pure stock and I really like it that way.
Coming from the Hero it's a pleasure to have a phone that doesn't require heavy modification to make it perform properly. Still, I miss the thrill of flashing ROM's and kernels.
I would like to try a kernel...mainly to simply o/c a bit, but I don't want it to suffer stable and reliable operation. I recall with the Hero, some of the kernels would adversely affect things like the GPS, making it something I couldn't rely on.
So my question: what kernel can I use that is uncapped, but will otherwise be as close to stock as possible?
Thanks for your thoughts!
Kernels are pretty different over here. I don't even know what's closest to stock. They pretty much all have mods in them. Matr1x kernel is pretty popular. You may have to up the voltage for it if you oc to 14xx. 1200 seemed pretty stable to me with default voltages. Currently franco kernel is pretty popular. You can't oc it, but it seems pretty snappy without oc. GLaDOS is also being used a bit but i've read some mixed reviews and for me at least it did seem a little lagging at times for the short period I ran it. I tried Trinity kernel when I first moved over from the hero and it seemed kind of flaky though it's possible that could have been due to the kang I was running. There are a few others out there. Cm7 kernel has a lot of the same mods cooked in though it's likely not the latest updates. You will see a lot of mention of BLN and Voodoo. There are apps on the market for those features and there's an app nstools that has some kernel config settings you can adjust depending on kernel. Mainly just try to read a lot. Most of the roms and kernels haven't given me any major issues beyond the random reboot, which coming from the hero, just means "normal" lol.
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Once you flash you can't stop O_O that my experience i'll direct you to Peteralfonso's kernel on his website here
Searching the forums would help you more than anything. You will get more info by searching, rather waiting people to reply here. These questions are asked on daily basis. And get the same replies everyday. I don't sound to be mean but seriously there is more info than you can get by starting another thread, only thing is you need to dig the info.
I have tried a few different roms and kernels and for once cm7 runs perfect for me w the supplied kernel. No reboots. Has been stable at 1440 performance for testing but I usually leave it at 1000 on demand.
Yeah they all have this blinking light crap in it now by default which I hate, and the lights turn off and I don't like that either. I want the light on when I'm using the phone and off when I'm not, not the other way around!
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I like the bln mod, but I do not like the one that turns off the backlights when using the phone. It's just easier to use the buttons imo and gives a quicker visual reference for everything. Otherwise I mostly am left wondering what is up with all the black space.
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suhas_sm said:
Searching the forums would help you more than anything. You will get more info by searching, rather waiting people to reply here. These questions are asked on daily basis. And get the same replies everyday. I don't sound to be mean but seriously there is more info than you can get by starting another thread, only thing is you need to dig the info.
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I hear you on that, and spent a lot of time reading comments and concerns and problems about the various kernels available. They all seem to pretty much be experimental, with various idiosyncratic problems and lots of bells and whistles such as aforementioned BLN, Voodoo, deep idle, etc.
I thought maybe I was missing something in my search for a kernel that would allow o/c, but not have the stability concerns of a the feature-rich, highly customizable kernels.
I think the Matr1x kernel will be your best option, u can OC it till 1400mhz, what I don't recommend to do, but at 1200/1300mhz its pretty stable.
It also got many options like BLN, BLX, Live OC, touch wake, etc.
But if you don't want them, why you just don't use 'em?
Like just flash the kernel and keep it like it is, and maybe do some overclocking.
wanna stable ? stock kernel
basically , there is no kernel more stable then stock ...
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wanna stable ? stock kernel
basically , there is no kernel more stable then stock ...
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True, but he prefers to OC it a bit.
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franciscofranco's kernel (link) works best for me. It's fast (no lags even without OC, I'm running at stock 1000 MHz), reliable (I've been using it for at least month and I haven't got any random reboots or application hangs) and battery efficient (thanks to deep idle and other tweaks).
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Once you flash you can't stop O_O that my experience i'll direct you to Peteralfonso's kernel on his website here
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+1
Never found a more stable kernel than Pete's. However, I've been on Glados for the last week or so and am seeing excellent battery life with Deep Idle.
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True, but he prefers to OC it a bit.
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personally i think overclock is totally unnecessary , why ? 1 GHz is sufficient to handle all job you require to the phone...
Best thing to do would be compile your own stock kernel with oc.
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personally i think overclock is totally unnecessary , why ? 1 GHz is sufficient to handle all job you require to the phone...
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True again. I love 1100mhz because it gives you a bit more speed with no lagg, and you batterylife is still awesome.
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deville~> said:
franciscofranco's kernel (link) works best for me. It's fast (no lags even without OC, I'm running at stock 1000 MHz), reliable (I've been using it for at least month and I haven't got any random reboots or application hangs) and battery efficient (thanks to deep idle and other tweaks).
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with deep idle OFF, the difference between the two is minimal, idle stats displayed deep idle has been 0
Downloaded and testing peter alfonso's kernel now. Its very minimalistic, no options like deep idle etc, and u can OC it up to 1400mhz. Running 400-1100mhz for a day now and the battery life is just awesome.
U can find it on:
http://www.peteralfonso.com
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Best thing to do would be compile your own stock kernel with oc.
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Or one with LiveOC which is kinda better cause it also OC the GPU =D
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the akward moment when someone said they +1'd you but actually didn't -_-
there're too many to choose.i don't like the ones that update so often indeed.
Hey guys,
Since I'm new here, I'm not allowed to post/comment in the Android Development forum, so I'm posting here.
My current ROM is AndroidME v1.1.0 by CdTDroiD
(By the way, I LOVE this ROM)
It's been really great but it seems like it doesn't really get along with new Speedy 4 kernel. I just flashed the kernel and it started acting funny since then.
I'm having lots of force closes and random reboots when overclocked to 1440MHz on my first attempt. After the factory reset/wipe and restore/reflash the kernel, it seems ok, but not quite sure it's stable.
Maybe it's because i overclocked it too much but i'm giving it a shot.
Now it's set to 1440MHz again and it's been working good for now.
this is just a reference.
Please advise me where to repost this when this section is not the right one to post this.
You can't really call it an 'issue' as Eugene himself has said Over clocking with his kernel isn't very stable. He doesn't overclock, and there's honestly really no need to..this phone is quite fast.
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Thanks, that's true.
I removed the word "issue" from the title.
and unexpectedly, it's working great now.
I don't know what went wrong on my first attempt
But this time it's working great.
alex.walmart said:
Thanks, that's true.
I removed the word "issue" from the title.
and unexpectedly, it's working great now.
I don't know what went wrong on my first attempt
But this time it's working great.
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Nice, glad it's working!
You're not undervolting or anything else?
I've yet to find the reason to overclock, but might give it a try just to see.
theexel said:
Nice, glad it's working!
You're not undervolting or anything else?
I've yet to find the reason to overclock, but might give it a try just to see.
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No, I just changed the Max frequency to 1440MHz
I've tried some combinations like 1000MHz + LiveOC 115%
but it all crashed.
So I set it back to 1440MHz, and no problems whatsoever.
I'm looking for a kernel or kernel tweak to fix an issue. My issue isn't with how fast games are running (I can drudge through the bits of lag, its not that bad) or the screen freezing. Its with touching the screen in two places at the same time. I've read about the touch screen CPU spikes, where every time you touch the screen the CPU jumps to 100%. Which would make sense to why when I'm playing games the button pad (on the right side of my screen) hits the corresponding button I'm holding down on the directional pad (on the left side of my screen) and visa versa. Thus making most games, especially games that require jumping in certain directions and hitting two buttons at the same time almost impossible to play.
Currently I'm running backside iho cm7.2 and I'd love to keep this rom so I'm looking for something compatible. I've already tried flashing 4 other kernels and got stuck at boot and had to restore each time which is why I'm not just trying kernel after kernel on my own and looking for recommendations. I'm not really worried about much else in the kernel besides fixing the touch screen bug, overclocking over and governors like performance, smartassv2 and conservative.
Or if there's a script I can run to fix this that would be wayyyyy rad also.
All newer kernel includes the touchscreen fix. The bug is now a thing in the past
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allenwalker1998 said:
All newer kernel includes the touchscreen fix. The bug is now a thing in the past
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All newer kernels for the P500 you mean? He's using an Optimus V, though.
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All newer kernels for the P500 you mean? He's using an Optimus V, though.
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yup, and I haven't changed roms or kernels since flashing backside about a year ago since it worked so well, and who knows how long it had been since the kernel was messed with when I flashed it.
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yup, and I haven't changed roms or kernels since flashing backside about a year ago since it worked so well, and who knows how long it had been since the kernel was messed with when I flashed it.
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I can compile, or at least try to compile, a kernel for you to test. However, I will only have time for that on Monday or Tuesday. Do you mind waiting until then?
sweetnsour said:
I can compile, or at least try to compile, a kernel for you to test. However, I will only have time for that on Monday or Tuesday. Do you mind waiting until then?
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that would be raaaaaad, are you just gunna take the bobzhome kernel and add the fixes to it?
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that would be raaaaaad, are you just gunna take the bobzhome kernel and add the fixes to it?
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If you want the fixes to that kernel, then sure
Can you give me a link to his kernel? And what fixes did you want to see?
Looks like you want a CPU spike fix, axis inversion fix, and the governors you mentioned?
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If you want the fixes to that kernel, then sure
Can you give me a link to his kernel? And what fixes did you want to see?
Looks like you want a CPU spike fix, axis inversion fix, and the governors you mentioned?
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I linked the rom and kernel in the first post, they came together yeah I pretty much just want the multitouch to be better so I can actually play games that require me to touch the screen at two places at once haha
Thanks alot man I've been on the compatible kernel search for a couple weeks, dunno how many times I had to restore cause it gets stuck at the LG splash (I've even let it sit for over an hour just in case)
If there's anything you can throw in there to improve performance that would be rad but it's not too big of a deal, only game that really lags bad is GTA3
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I linked the rom and kernel in the first post, they came together yeah I pretty much just want the multitouch to be better so I can actually play games that require me to touch the screen at two places at once haha
Thanks alot man I've been on the compatible kernel search for a couple weeks, dunno how many times I had to restore cause it gets stuck at the LG splash (I've even let it sit for over an hour just in case)
If there's anything you can throw in there to improve performance that would be rad but it's not too big of a deal, only game that really lags bad is GTA3
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Didn't have much time, so I just attempted to fix the lag and the multi touch problem. As promised, the kernel is here:
http://code.google.com/p/sweetnsour-kernel/downloads/list
Look for VM670-version1-CFS. If I get the time, I can improve it some more, but for now, it is just going to be a fix for the two problems. As for the governors, the governors that you've mentioned are already included, unless you were talking about an upgrade for the governors.
Hopefully I compiled the right kernel, as bobzhome made different branches of the kernel. Please tell me how it goes
So I tried it and I can't tell anything is different :/
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So I tried it and I can't tell anything is different :/
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Sorry, now that I think about it, the touchscreen driver I put in that kernel is better suited for ICS. I'll have another kernel up with a different touchscreen driver tomorrow.
Uploaded a kernel with the same touchscreen driver, the reason being I don't believe I compiled the previous kernel with the touchscreen driver. I believe I just gave you the same kernel that you had before. Please try it now and tell me if anything has changed.
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I believe I just gave you the same kernel that you had before.
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Good science. Any worthwhile experiment needs a placebo in there, somewhere.:laugh:
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Good science. Any worthwhile experiment needs a placebo in there, somewhere.:laugh:
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Unintentional though
Alrighty so I have been busy and haven't been able to tinker with my phone, but I decided to try it again today, cleared cache and dalvik and flashed it, booted up normal after usual amount of time after flashing. Once booted and as usual adw ex and everything else on link2sd wasn't there so I let it sit for like 20 min and rebooted, which usually gets adw ex and link2sd to be back up and goin smooth, but the phone never booted again. Got past all the usual boot stuff but just sat on a black screen (through the entire movie prometheus haha) so thank god I made a backup to restore cause I tried a battery pull a couple times. Sooooo I dunno what's up
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Hi,
been running CM since CM7 and loving it! I never had a problem until now.
Now running CM11 7/14 nightly on my i535, and the phone runs really slow when hot, like when I use the browser a lot or when using navigation. By slow I mean unusable slow. This has been happening for a couple of months now. For the latest nightly, I did system reset and cleared the cache but it's still happening.
Does anybody know what to do?
Try a different kernal. Are you overclocking your phone? There really isn't one thing that can cause that issue.
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Try a different kernal. Are you overclocking your phone? There really isn't one thing that can cause that issue.
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I'm running the default kernel with the default settings. What kernel do you suggest?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853816
This is my personal favorite kernel. Comes with an easy app Ktweaker to play with voltages and overclocking.
sjpritch25 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853816
This is my personal favorite kernel. Comes with an easy app Ktweaker to play with voltages and overclocking.
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I installed the kernel and my problem is solved! I just tested a navigation and it did not slow to a crawl. The phone HOT indeed (brightness on full).
I think the default cm11 thermal stuff on our device may be not right.
Thanks!