Updating while rooted... - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm wanting to root my Nexus 5... But if I root, can I update... Or do I need to be unrooted?... I've only rooted one device before... I'm fine with the root method for the Nexus 5, but a little unsure of the unroot method... Can I update my Nexus 5 while it's rooted?...
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kodiak211 said:
I'm wanting to root my Nexus 5... But if I root, can I update... Or do I need to be unrooted?... I've only rooted one device before... I'm fine with the root method for the Nexus 5, but a little unsure of the unroot method... Can I update my Nexus 5 while it's rooted?...
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By updating you mean OTA, right?
There is thread going on for this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217

Didn't really need to link to it. It's a sticky thread stuck at the top of this general forum along with all the other important threads
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I'd do some research on what the next update could do to root b4 you update. Google are not trying to make root impossible but they want android far more secure. Chainfire wrote on this, and it's implications, which are not minor
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kodiak211 said:
I'm wanting to root my Nexus 5... But if I root, can I update... Or do I need to be unrooted?... I've only rooted one device before... I'm fine with the root method for the Nexus 5, but a little unsure of the unroot method... Can I update my Nexus 5 while it's rooted?...
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If you just have root and you did not modify any files in /system then you will be able to update with root, but you will lose root if you do so.

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Updating galaxy nexus

I brought a galaxy nexus off internet from Hong Kong a few months back now. All is working good and pleased with phone. I haven't got software update yet and currently running 4.1.1
Does anybody know why ? And how can I get the android update please.
Thanks.
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Well, in this particular case, Google is your friend.
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...y-galaxy-nexus-received-the-latest-ota-update
Thanks. I've tried this but still no joy. Maybe I should just sit tight and wait it out.
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Ever think about rooting? Update whenever you want to
You can do like me when I first root my gnex download nexus root toolkit unlock boot loader and download factory image from Google "just google nexus factory image" download the one you want. Flash it using factory reset tool from tool kit and root if you want you can even relock bootloader
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Thanks for the tips. Will try rooting option.
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ppl always confuse updating the software with rooting. You DO NOT need to root your device to update it. Not at all! I also always advise not to except you really need to usr some specific app. To update your GN you just need unlocked bootloader and fastboot.exe.
I cannot post links yet but just google for android factory images and go the the google site and get the one for yakju or takju/for google wallet/.
bbbaz1 said:
Thanks for the tips. Will try rooting option.
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Indeed you don't have to root it just optional anyway wugfresh explain everything on the faq of nexus root toolkit
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What's a good tablet to buy?

I'm returning my nexus 7 2013 because it can't root and the last nexus 7 I almost couldn't root so what's a decent tablet that has a easy root method I do all the steps but like always there has to be an error so and suggestions?
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Class_of_punk26 said:
I'm returning my nexus 7 2013 because it can't root and the last nexus 7 I almost couldn't root so what's a decent tablet that has a easy root method I do all the steps but like always there has to be an error so and suggestions?
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Please ask this question in this thread or this. Thanks!

Will I still get the OTA updates if I'm rooted

I have a question, I already rooted my phone and put a bunch of mods, tweaks, and root only apps and I am still on the stock firmware (I haven't flashed any Roms yet). So I wanted to ask if I will still get the OTA updates from Google, or will I have to flash them myself
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My bad about the title, first time making a topic so I thought I am suppose to write it there and I now I don't know how to change
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I believe your phone will still download the update, but you will need to flash them from your recovery. That's how I understand it anyway.
Having root permissions itself will not stop you from successfully installing an OTA but any modification will. You can read more about the requirements to receive an OTA update here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523217
Thanks. That helped a lot
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Rooting phones like S4 or Note 3

Hey i just want to know that if anyone knows the method of rooting bigger phones like S4 or Note 3. I am not able to root such phones from any software. All software like kingo root or one click root fails to root such device. Really need suggestion of rooting such kind of phones.
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Computech_pc said:
Hey i just want to know that if anyone knows the method of rooting bigger phones like S4 or Note 3. I am not able to root such phones from any software. All software like kingo root or one click root fails to root such device. Really need suggestion of rooting such kind of phones.
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thats because the S4 and the note 3 have the new Knox protection, pretty much a new bootloader so new way to root. there will most likely be no one click root for them, you should search with whatever model number you have for root.
Thanks well this knox protection is very tight and not that easy to root. But still trying to find the way of root
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Towelroot

Anyone else see this? It's touted for the nexus 5 in addition to other devices. Anyone know why? Will it root with a locked bootloader ?
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We only need to unlock the bootloader to flash recovery. If an exploit has been found in kitkat, it is possible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
This could mean a full, end-to-end rooting process without the need to use a pc
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rootSU said:
We only need to unlock the bootloader to flash recovery. If an exploit has been found in kitkat, it is possible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
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Can you flash a recovery from Android, say through Flashify, if you have root, but the bootloader is locked?
Aerowinder said:
Can you flash a recovery from Android, say through Flashify, if you have root, but the bootloader is locked?
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Yeah.. My bootloader is locked and can flash recovery via flashify.
Although that's assuming bootunlocker truly locks the same as fastboot does because that's how I locked my bl.
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rootSU said:
We only need to unlock the bootloader to flash recovery. If an exploit has been found in kitkat, it is possible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
This could mean a full, end-to-end rooting process without the need to use a pc
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This thing is so damn easy to root I'm surprised he'd even mention the n5.
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Aerowinder said:
Can you flash a recovery from Android, say through Flashify, if you have root, but the bootloader is locked?
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yes. if you have root you can. worst case, there are apps to lock/unlock your bootloader if you do have root. can unlock, flash recovery via flashify, then relock.
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just tried it on my unrooted verizon s4.. it doesnt seem to work?
I just did this on my N5 4.4.3 and it worked! My N5 was 100% stock before this.
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justmart said:
I just did this on my N5 4.4.3 and it worked! My N5 was 100% stock before this.
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Was your bootloader locked or unlocked?
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justmart said:
I just did this on my N5 4.4.3 and it worked! My N5 was 100% stock before this.
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Good news. Or maybe it's not!
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rootSU said:
Good news. Or maybe it's not!
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Why not?
Bootloader is locked.
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justmart said:
Why not?
Bootloader is locked.
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Good news now!
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justmart said:
Why not?
Bootloader is lock.
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Because I think an app that can root without a pc (and fastboot) will promote a lack of the need to learn the basics, giving us members here a hard time supporting people who don't know the basics
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rootSU said:
Because I think an app that can root without a pc (and fastboot) will promote a lack of the need to learn the basics, giving us members here a hard time supporting people who don't know the basics
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Understood, but this tool is handy for me that decided to root my phone after had everything setup and I was lazy to backup everything > unlocked, root etc and restore.
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justmart said:
Understood, but this tool is handy for me that decided to root my phone after had everything setup and I was lazy to backup everything > unlocked, root etc and restore.
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Oh yeah absolutely it's very handy. Just will it cause the forum problems later on is the question
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rootSU said:
Because I think an app that can root without a pc (and fastboot) will promote a lack of the need to learn the basics, giving us members here a hard time supporting people who don't know the basics
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almost makes root toolkits seem more appealing. almost, not quite
simms22 said:
almost makes root toolkits seem more appealing. almost, not quite
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Haha. I wouldn't go that far
I just fear we'll get a new class of people. The "commute and root" crowd who accidentally wipe their ROM on the train to work ?
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rootSU said:
Haha. I wouldn't go that far
I just fear we'll get a new class of people. The "commute and root" crowd who accidentally wipe their ROM on the train to work ?
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They're already here, sadly
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jd1639 said:
They're already here, sadly
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Yeah but someone who wipes /system on a train has at least possibly previously used fastboot or has a backup stored off their phone.
I see a lot of twrp users wiping /system and /sdcard.. If these people do the whole process on the way to work,, there's 0 chance of any backup anywhere.
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rootSU said:
Yeah but someone who wipes /system on a train has at least possibly previously used fastboot or has a backup stored off their phone.
I see a lot of twrp users wiping /system and /sdcard.. If these people do the whole process on the way to work,, there's 0 chance of any backup anywhere.
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Totally agree. Then it's up to us to teach them fastboot and flash a factory image. Yea, it kind of sucks, I'll a agree. But what can we do?
@rootSU you don't know how much I agree with you, a s.... storm is happening in the s4 forum because of towelroot.
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jd1639 said:
Totally agree. Then it's up to us to teach them fastboot and flash a factory image. Yea, it kind of sucks, I'll a agree. But what can we do?
@rootSU you don't know how much I agree with you, a s.... storm is happening in the s4 forum because of towelroot.
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Here's my stance.
I will not mention it as an option. If anyone asks if they can root without a pc I will not answer.. If anyone else mentions this app to them or someone asks about it specifically, I will advise on a best practice. I will also give warnings
Thats all I can do.
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We could make a guide but I haven't time to do that right now. But if we could create our own guide with our warnings about not flashing anything until Nandroid and always being extra sure not to wipe stuff whilst away etc,, maybe there is a chance?
I don't know. It's a Concern
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